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Virtual Post Office!!!

未読、
2004/04/05 8:13:542004/04/05
To:
Offices in Zaragoza, Spain; Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic; and Miami,
FL. The U.S. regional office is located in Charlotte, NC. Agencies will also
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APRIL NEWSLETTER
**************************
Good morning, Good afternoon, Good evening!

Welcome to new members receiving our Newsletter for the first time. You may
want to take a few minutes to review, the Latest News link, from your
replicated site. Great way to get up-to-date with our program. Thank you for
joining our program and we hope your stay with us is both fun and rewarding.


SEPTEMBER CONVENTION!

Reserve the last week in September to allow a week of Fun in the Sun mixed
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with the sights, the food, the beautiful people and the fun times on the
beaches we can expect an exciting week.

Over the next 4 months, through the raffle system, all members have an
opportunity to win an all inclusive trip. Each member has one FREE ticket
each month,
For those who wish to play additional numbers can take advantage of the BOGO
(buy one get one free) offer, you might like to know ANY proceeds will be
used for the convention.
When you leave Santo Domingo, we know you will agree, our convention will by
far, be the best convention you have ever been part of. Even if you can only
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have the package is in your Shopping Center) Those earning Commissions can
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PROGRAM UPDATE!
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Louise Bremner

未読、
2004/04/05 18:49:272004/04/05
To:
Some spammer wrote:

> BEST forced matrix system EVER!

Wonder why I visualize a pyramid?

________________________________________________________________________
Louise Bremner (log at gol dot com)
If you want a reply by e-mail, don't write to my Yahoo address!

Mad Dan

未読、
2004/04/05 22:22:482004/04/05
To:
"Virtual Post Office!!!" <joh...@bigpond.com> wrote in message news:<64ccc.619$x7....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...

I think I've had an exclamation mark overload! I have you know! I need
a lie down!!! This is all too much!

Oh! My!! Lordy!!!

Brett Robson

未読、
2004/04/06 8:16:572004/04/06
To:
On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 22:49:27 GMT, Louise Bremner ...

>
>Some spammer wrote:
>
>> BEST forced matrix system EVER!
>
>Wonder why I visualize a pyramid?

It's NOT a pryamid, it is a matrix that has been forced.

.

----
Triangle Man hates Person Man
They have a fight,
Triangle wins.

Brett Robson

未読、
2004/04/06 8:39:162004/04/06
To:
On 6 Apr 2004 05:16:57 -0700, Brett Robson ...

>
>On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 22:49:27 GMT, Louise Bremner ...
>>
>>Some spammer wrote:
>>
>>> BEST forced matrix system EVER!
>>
>>Wonder why I visualize a pyramid?
>
>It's NOT a pryamid, it is a matrix that has been forced.

I've wondered how common these scams are in Japan.


1. The Forced Matrix - This is a matrix where there are a set number of places
on each level, and when they are filled, any new recruits are spilled down to
the next level. For example, if you have a standard 3 x 4 forced matrix, there
are only 3 places on the first level, 9 on the second level, 27 on the third
level and 81 on the fourth level.

When you first see a force matrix, it can be very enticing. You're probably
hoping the person above you is a heavy hitter and will spill lots of members
down to you. What you probably will get is someone just like you, who's also
hoping for some spill from above.

The site will talk about spill and gets you all excited. But what happens?

Most people in any Program are able to sign up, on average, 2.5 people. So, you
can forget about getting any spill from your upline. They're lucky if they can
fill their own first level, let alone any extra spilling down to you.

And who's to say where you are on their first level. If you were the first to
sign up with them, then you would be the first to receive any spill. But if you
were second, in order for you to get ANY Spill at all, they are going to have to
recruit 4 extra people for you to get 1 from them. And if you were the third
person to sign up with them, you won't get ANY Spill until they and the others
in first and second place have recruited 7 people... And then you only get 1.

And so it goes.

A forced matrix can also make you lazier then you might have been with an
unlimited width matrix. A forced matrix puts you in the mind set of someone who
expects spillover and doesn't feel the need to recruit yourself. If you start
thinking this way, then you are going to lose.

On the plus side, a forced matrix in any program can be a good sales tool
because people will think it's going to be easier to build a downline with. And
there is something to be said about that tactic. Will it work in the long run? I
have my doubts, if you don't work with and help those who join under you. If you
sign up people who are expecting you to do all or most of the work, then you'll
be lucky to fill a second level.

Another bad thing about a force matrix is what happens if you sign someone up
who is a real go-getter, someone who takes the bull by the horns and runs with
the opportunity and sells lots of products. If they are on your second or third
level, you are going to miss out on most of what they can do for you and your
income. Just as they get going, filling their levels, it gets deep enough that
you no longer benefit from their work.

So, all in all, a forced matrix can be good, but it's not the best deal going.

Louise Bremner

未読、
2004/04/06 18:14:542004/04/06
To:
Brett Robson <jet...@deja.com> wrote:

<megasnip>

> So, all in all, a forced matrix can be good, but it's not the best deal
> going.

So I take it you got taken in by something like this, at least once?

Brett Robson

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2004/04/06 23:19:402004/04/06
To:
On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 22:14:54 GMT, Louise Bremner ...

>
>Brett Robson <jet...@deja.com> wrote:
>
><megasnip>
>
>> So, all in all, a forced matrix can be good, but it's not the best deal
>> going.
>
>So I take it you got taken in by something like this, at least once?
>

No, suspicisious by nature I have never become involved with any of these "multi
level marketing" scams although I have been approached many times. The first one
was aware of was my cousin trying to get me to into one at a pub. You paid $1000
to get a seat on a (imaginary) plane with 8 seats (pilot plus 7 passengers).
When the plane was full each person got to be a pilot, each pilot got 1/2 the
air ticket.

Yes you can make money, but only because someone else loses money.

Louise Bremner

未読、
2004/04/07 3:32:392004/04/07
To:
Brett Robson <jet...@deja.com> wrote:

> Yes you can make money, but only because someone else loses money.

You don't make money if it's only someone who loses--it has to be more
than one... preferably far more than one.

Murgi

未読、
2004/04/07 3:51:022004/04/07
To:
> > Yes you can make money, but only because someone else loses money.
>
> You don't make money if it's only someone who loses--it has to be more
> than one... preferably far more than one.


Why not?
If you lose at playing cards and I win, I made money while you lost it.
And if the number of millionaires double in one year, many others will get
poorer.
It's the same as in any equation.
That's how the royals in Europe became so rich. First they stole everything
from their subjects, then a few became very rich while many got poorer by
the same degree.


Sigi


Brett Robson

未読、
2004/04/07 4:29:592004/04/07
To:
On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 07:51:02 GMT, Murgi ...

>
>> > Yes you can make money, but only because someone else loses money.
>>
>> You don't make money if it's only someone who loses--it has to be more
>> than one... preferably far more than one.
>
>
>Why not?
>If you lose at playing cards and I win, I made money while you lost it.
>And if the number of millionaires double in one year, many others will get
>poorer.

In my example you only made money if your plane was full and you could become a
pilot, and although I am not sure, you probably didn't make anything unless your
plane was full.

Drew Hamilton

未読、
2004/04/07 8:59:062004/04/07
To:
In article <c50e6...@drn.newsguy.com>, Brett Robson wrote:
>In my example you only made money if your plane was full and you could become
>a pilot, and although I am not sure, you probably didn't make anything unless
>your plane was full.

Well, if the pilot got half the air ticket ($500) then where did the other
half go to?

If you made no money as a passenger, than you would start to make money
as a pilot once the third passenger got on your plane.

On another note, if I knew it only cost $1000 to be a pilot, I wouldn't have
spent so many months and thousands of dollars to do it...

- awh

Brett Robson

未読、
2004/04/07 10:48:232004/04/07
To:
On Wed, 7 Apr 2004 08:59:06 -0400, Drew Hamilton ...

>
>In article <c50e6...@drn.newsguy.com>, Brett Robson wrote:
>>In my example you only made money if your plane was full and you could become
>>a pilot, and although I am not sure, you probably didn't make anything unless
>>your plane was full.
>
>Well, if the pilot got half the air ticket ($500) then where did the other
>half go to?

the organisers,


>
>If you made no money as a passenger, than you would start to make money
>as a pilot once the third passenger got on your plane.

You got nothing until your plane was full.

Hibijibi

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2004/04/07 12:32:412004/04/07
To:
"Murgi" wrote...

> If you lose at playing cards and I win, I made money while you lost it.
> And if the number of millionaires double in one year, many others will get
> poorer.

Despite the popular perception, economic relations aren't a zero-sum game.
If you spend the day making two chairs and I spend it making two tables,
then at the end of the day we both have somewhere to eat our dinner. If we
spend the day making two tables and a whole bunch of chairs, then besides
ourselves, both our families have someplace to eat dinner. However, even if
only one of us sits on our butt all day, both of us lose since I'm not going
to give you a table for free and I don't have a chair to sit on.

best!
hibijibi


Ryan Ginstrom

未読、
2004/04/08 8:22:562004/04/08
To:

"Murgi" <srin...@da2.so-net.ne.jp> wrote in message
news:959893941a4f26ef...@news.secureusenet.com...

> Why not?
> If you lose at playing cards and I win, I made money while you lost it.
> And if the number of millionaires double in one year, many others will get
> poorer.
> It's the same as in any equation.

That's assuming there is only a set amount of wealth in the world. You don't
believe it is possible to "create" wealth?

--
Regards,
Ryan Ginstrom

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