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Getting the Fuck out of Japan

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ifignow

未読、
2004/01/11 21:46:332004/01/11
To:
Boy am I glad to be back in the USA. Ah, space. Ah, people who say excuse
me. A car to drive, big rooms, wearing shoes indoors. No more J-pop blaring
from speakers everywhere, no fishy-smelling hair tonic. I feel like a real
person again. How do people live in that hovel called Japan??


Jim Magell

未読、
2004/01/11 21:52:012004/01/11
To:
Because it's soooo much better now that you're gone.

ifignow

未読、
2004/01/11 22:02:182004/01/11
To:
Yeah, you bet it's better. Today I was suckered into a community activity
which turned out to really be a devout zen cult, with all the white
japanophiles. I so wanted to strangle them and say Japan is nothing like
what they imagine -- it is a place obsessed with fashion, money, and
alcohol. The only people into zen in Japan are white tourists.


"Jim Magell" <jmage...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:btt24j$a3sch$1...@ID-40185.news.uni-berlin.de...

Louise Bremner

未読、
2004/01/11 22:30:272004/01/11
To:
ifignow <ifi...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Boy am I glad to be back in the USA.

Since you're no longer in Japan, how about leaving this newsgroup too?

________________________________________________________________________
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Fabian

未読、
2004/01/11 23:06:152004/01/11
To:
ifignow hu kiteb:

Dunno. You got family here so you say. Why not ask them?


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Raj Feridun

未読、
2004/01/12 1:45:052004/01/12
To:
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 02:46:33 GMT, "ifignow" <ifi...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Wow, what an apt title for your post!

FuckER or FuckHEAD would have been even better yet.

Rafael Caetano

未読、
2004/01/12 2:11:512004/01/12
To:
"ifignow" <ifi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah, you bet it's better. Today I was suckered into a community activity
> which turned out to really be a devout zen cult, with all the white
> japanophiles. I so wanted to strangle them and say Japan is nothing like
> what they imagine --

Why did you want to strangle them instead of, say, just leaving the place?

BTW, we fjlij regulars are moral people. Please don't use the f-word in the subject.

Rafael Caetano

Makoto Taniguchi

未読、
2004/01/12 2:29:132004/01/12
To:
"ifignow" <ifi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<dUnMb.5146$VS4.1...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...

Although I don't agree with everything you said, you're right J-pop
really does suck.

Haluk Skywalker

未読、
2004/01/12 2:54:542004/01/12
To:
"ifignow" <ifi...@hotmail.com>, iletide şunu yazdı
news:dUnMb.5146$VS4.1...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

Too bad. You left Japan just about we found a dance partner for you.


Drew Hamilton

未読、
2004/01/12 8:52:292004/01/12
To:
ifignow <ifi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Boy am I glad to be back in the USA.

...but I thought that you weren't leaving until the 12th! We
never even got the chance to say goodbye!

--
- awh
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ifignow

未読、
2004/01/12 9:55:112004/01/12
To:
I was waitlisted for an earlier flight on the 8th, and got it. I figured
you guys completely hated me, so goodbyes were unnecessary.


"Drew Hamilton" <a...@awh.org> wrote in message
news:tdlad1-...@urd.awh.org...

Eric Takabayashi

未読、
2004/01/12 10:36:482004/01/12
To:
ifignow wrote:

> I was waitlisted for an earlier flight on the 8th, and got it. I figured
> you guys completely hated me, so goodbyes were unnecessary.

Aren't you glad you didn't hook up with a woman in Japan?

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Gerry

未読、
2004/01/12 11:18:572004/01/12
To:
In article <dUnMb.5146$VS4.1...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
ifignow <ifi...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> No more J-pop blaring from speakers everywhere,

Ah sweet relaxation--endless hip-hop blaring from speakers everywhere.

> no fishy-smelling hair tonic.

Hey! Nobody *made* you whear that fish-sauce. And you wondered why all
the women rejected you.

> I feel like a real person again.

See how delusional being the USA can make you?

> How do people live in that hovel called Japan??

Since you're back in the USA I guess you can turn your myopic eye back
to the simple pleasures: hating a local ethnic group or religion now...
But you can always remember the trying days of having a confusing new
culture to hate.

--
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care about the swing districts. Then they complain about voter apathy.
-- Gail Collins

tna...@no-more-virii-please.direct.ca

未読、
2004/01/12 12:31:532004/01/12
To:
Gerry wrote:

> In article <dUnMb.5146$VS4.1...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> ifignow <ifi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>No more J-pop blaring from speakers everywhere,
>
> Ah sweet relaxation--endless hip-hop blaring from speakers everywhere.

Worse: Britney Spears, Christina Agguelera and all the other American
Pop singers. Or Adult Contemporary when you're put on hold.

>>no fishy-smelling hair tonic.
>
> Hey! Nobody *made* you whear that fish-sauce. And you wondered why all
> the women rejected you.

It was his "short comings".

>>I feel like a real person again.
>
> See how delusional being the USA can make you?

As a Canadian, no comment. :-)

>>How do people live in that hovel called Japan??
>
> Since you're back in the USA I guess you can turn your myopic eye back
> to the simple pleasures: hating a local ethnic group or religion now...
> But you can always remember the trying days of having a confusing new
> culture to hate.

"You know, before Americans are allowed to travel overseas, they should
first visit Canada. If they do OK here, then maybe let them travel to,
say, England."
-- Stand-up comic at the Just for Laughs Festival

Cindy

未読、
2004/01/12 14:37:332004/01/12
To:
Louise Bremner wrote:

> ifignow <ifi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Boy am I glad to be back in the USA.
>
>
> Since you're no longer in Japan, how about leaving this newsgroup too?


Yeah, ifignow, I just talked about you in sci.lang.japan too!... in
Japanese, though.

Cindy

未読、
2004/01/12 14:38:422004/01/12
To:
ifignow wrote:

> I was waitlisted for an earlier flight on the 8th, and got it. I figured
> you guys completely hated me, so goodbyes were unnecessary.

We miss you! So long!

Haluk Skywalker

未読、
2004/01/12 15:25:242004/01/12
To:
"Cindy" <cind...@attb.com>, iletide sunu yazdi
news:5JCMb.35807$xy6.88918@attbi_s02...

You surely have a weird taste for sarcasm.


Michael Cash

未読、
2004/01/12 15:32:322004/01/12
To:
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:37:33 GMT, Cindy <cind...@attb.com> brought
down from the Mount tablets inscribed:

I thought *you* left this group forever, Cindy. What happened?


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Dick Muhfukkin Bagswing

未読、
2004/01/12 18:09:282004/01/12
To:

> "You know, before Americans are allowed to travel overseas, they should
> first visit Canada. If they do OK here, then maybe let them travel to,
> say, England."
> -- Stand-up comic at the Just for Laughs Festival
>

Y'know,I could give a fuck about the original poster but shit like the above
has been getting on my goddamned nerves lately. If anyone truly believes
that we americans have the market cornered on being bad tourists,travelers
or just plain being uncouth in foreign countries then please haul off and
kiss my fucking ass.I have seen so many brits,canadians and aussies act like
total fuckheads since I have been here that it boggles my mind.

Brian


S Comstock

未読、
2004/01/12 18:40:542004/01/12
To:
Dick Muhfukkin Bagswing writes ...

[snip]

>Y'know,I could give a fuck about the original poster but shit like the above
>has been getting on my goddamned nerves lately. If anyone truly believes
>that we americans have the market cornered on being bad tourists,travelers
>or just plain being uncouth in foreign countries then please haul off and
>kiss my fucking ass.I have seen so many brits,canadians and aussies act like
>total fuckheads since I have been here that it boggles my mind.

You're absolutely right. In-civilty, mindless crude language, hostility, and
rage seem to be everywhere you look.

Kind regards,


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Gerry

未読、
2004/01/12 19:30:502004/01/12
To:
In article <btv96k$for$1...@nn-tk103.ocn.ad.jp>, Dick Muhfukkin Bagswing
<la...@my.nuts.wouldja?> wrote:

> > "You know, before Americans are allowed to travel overseas, they
> > should first visit Canada. If they do OK here, then maybe let them
> > travel to, say, England." -- Stand-up comic at the Just for Laughs
> > Festival
> >
> Y'know,I could give a fuck about the original poster but shit like
> the above has been getting on my goddamned nerves lately.

Fuckin' shit like that? Goddam!

Cultural/national stereo-types irk you? I hope you get all hot and
bothered when you see them directed at other nations, then.

> If anyone truly believes that we americans have the market cornered

> on being bad tourists, travelers or just plain being uncouth in


> foreign countries then please haul off and kiss my fucking ass.

Well, certainly when the image of your ass appears, it changes the
character of the debate rapidly. Not to mention, the fuck, the shit,
the goddam and the ever-looming banner of scrotum obsession you march
under.

But I don't think that's what the gag above said at all: that only
Unitedstatesians are swine overseas. Hardly. I live in a high volume
tourist area in the US and can say you for sure that tourists as
jack-asses come from all nations. Now as I think about it though, I
guess it's much easier to encounter more local assholes than I do even
arrogant and demanding tourists from everywhere else doubled.

But why not have pride in the arroganct fuck-and-shit type
Unitedstatesian "spirit" rather than get defensive about it. By
fuckin' shit--Unitedstatesians are the biggest nuisances from the halls
of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli! And we're mighty proud of it!
And if you don't like it, etc. etc, testicles.

Relative to Canadian assholes, don't be silly; quite clearly there
aren't any. English and Aussies have another of the same difficulties
Unitedstatesians have; an inability to learn simple phrases in a
foreign language. That always makes the approach of an English speaker
a looming burden. Again.

But how's this: in Alan Booth's Road to Sato, no matter *WHAT* in the
hell he does, no matter how often he says he's from England, speaking
good Japanese in the process, they nod and continue to ask him
questions about life in the US. An English speaker seems to only come
from the USA. So maybe all those Brits and Aussies further our bad
standing. But again, if you'll be proud of it, it can only help.

Ryan Ginstrom

未読、
2004/01/12 19:57:102004/01/12
To:

"ifignow" <ifi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jzyMb.6881$VS4.2...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

> I was waitlisted for an earlier flight on the 8th, and got it. I figured
> you guys completely hated me, so goodbyes were unnecessary.

Yet you felt compelled to come back here and post after you beat feet. A
kind but totally unnecessary gesture on your part -- and believe me, I am
being sincere here.

Still looking forward to enjoying your writeup, though.

--
Regards,
Ryan Ginstrom

The 2-Belo

未読、
2004/01/12 20:43:202004/01/12
To:
ifignow and fj.life.in-japan is a baaaaaaaaaaad combination:

>no fishy-smelling hair tonic

Where in the name of Natsume Soseki *were* you living, anyway? A god damned
escort club?


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Dick Muhfukkin Bagswing

未読、
2004/01/12 21:08:122004/01/12
To:

> Cultural/national stereo-types irk you? I hope you get all hot and
> bothered when you see them directed at other nations, then.

Guess what. I do.


> Well, certainly when the image of your ass appears, it changes the
> character of the debate rapidly. Not to mention, the fuck, the shit,
> the goddam and the ever-looming banner of scrotum obsession you march
> under.


My potty mouth does not necessarily mean any type of obsession at all.No
matter what you might think. Unless you are one of those armchair psych
experts who sees cocks everywhere.
I don't.

>
> But why not have pride in the arroganct fuck-and-shit type
> Unitedstatesian "spirit" rather than get defensive about it. By
> fuckin' shit--Unitedstatesians are the biggest nuisances from the halls
> of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli! And we're mighty proud of it!
> And if you don't like it, etc. etc, testicles.

Because I get tired of hearing it. And it isn't true.
There you go with the balls again.

>
> But how's this: in Alan Booth's Road to Sato, no matter *WHAT* in the
> hell he does, no matter how often he says he's from England, speaking
> good Japanese in the process, they nod and continue to ask him
> questions about life in the US. An English speaker seems to only come
> from the USA.


And whose fault is this particular fuckup?

Americans?
Or the ignorant doof who believes it?

Brian

John W.

未読、
2004/01/12 22:01:342004/01/12
To:
I thought the initial problem was that you *couldn't* get the fuck out
of Japan....

John W.

John W.

未読、
2004/01/12 22:04:562004/01/12
To:
The 2-Belo wrote:
> ifignow and fj.life.in-japan is a baaaaaaaaaaad combination:
>
>
>>no fishy-smelling hair tonic
>
>
> Where in the name of Natsume Soseki *were* you living, anyway? A god damned
> escort club?
>
Maybe it was just the girls he dated, or tried to. Maybe he didn't
realize it wasn't tonic.

John W.


Raj Feridun

未読、
2004/01/12 22:32:322004/01/12
To:
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 21:01:34 -0600, "John W." <worth...@yahoo.komm>
wrote:

>I thought the initial problem was that you *couldn't* get the fuck out
>of Japan....
>
>John W.

Something about his personality tells me he's not getting the fuck
anywhere.

Kevin Wayne Williams

未読、
2004/01/13 0:52:332004/01/13
To:
Michael Cash wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:37:33 GMT, Cindy <cind...@attb.com> brought
> down from the Mount tablets inscribed:
>
>
>>Louise Bremner wrote:
>>
>>
>>>ifignow <ifi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Boy am I glad to be back in the USA.
>>>
>>>
>>>Since you're no longer in Japan, how about leaving this newsgroup too?
>>
>>
>>Yeah, ifignow, I just talked about you in sci.lang.japan too!... in
>>Japanese, though.
>
>
> I thought *you* left this group forever, Cindy. What happened?

I thought the two of you had agreed not to reply to each other's posts.
What happened?

KWW

Michael Cash

未読、
2004/01/13 6:13:482004/01/13
To:
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 05:52:33 GMT, Kevin Wayne Williams
<nih...@paxonet.kom> brought down from the Mount tablets inscribed:

She stepped back on my turf and muddied the tranquil waters.

I'm still in her kill file, so it ain't like she's noticing or
anything.

Gerry

未読、
2004/01/13 11:14:512004/01/13
To:
In article <btvjlp$h82$1...@nn-tk106.ocn.ad.jp>, Dick Muhfukkin Bagswing
<la...@my.nuts.wouldja?> wrote:

> > Cultural/national stereo-types irk you? I hope you get all hot and
> > bothered when you see them directed at other nations, then.
>
> Guess what. I do.

Good to know.

> > Well, certainly when the image of your ass appears, it changes the
> > character of the debate rapidly. Not to mention, the fuck, the
> > shit, the goddam and the ever-looming banner of scrotum obsession
> > you march under.
>
> My potty mouth does not necessarily mean any type of obsession at
> all.No matter what you might think. Unless you are one of those
> armchair psych experts who sees cocks everywhere. I don't.

I'm not, and don't.

> > But why not have pride in the arroganct fuck-and-shit type
> > Unitedstatesian "spirit" rather than get defensive about it. By
> > fuckin' shit--Unitedstatesians are the biggest nuisances from the
> > halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli! And we're mighty proud
> > of it! And if you don't like it, etc. etc, testicles.
>
> Because I get tired of hearing it. And it isn't true.

What isn't true, that Unitedstatesian tourists with idle money and time
aren't pricks and a burden on service personnel where ever they go? I
disagree. I just don't think the represent Unitedstatesians in any
way. They generally represent Unitedstatesians with idle time and
money, and that most *certainly* isn't the average Unitedstatesian.

But I think that our national sense of self, independent, frontiersmen,
entrepreneurial, self-confident. This can also easily come across as
arrogant, self-centered, self-absorbed. We've also got this odd
national characteristic of being (comaratively) blunt, rude, and
unapologetic. We see that as being strong, direct, honest. Others see
it as lacking manners, finesse. I can appreciate that.

It written conversations with Indians, Latins/Brazilians and some
Mid-easterners I find that in order to disagree I have to spend two
paragraphs announcing my lack ow worthiness, then the disagreement or
the didactic finger-in-the-eye at something incorrect they've said,
then another two paragrahs of "softening". It's just a complete drain,
but otherwise they get huffy realy quick. I can't say, "That's bogus;
these are the facts..." If I do they get really injured. That might be
part of the Americans-as-assholes thinking.

> There you go with the balls again.

Jesus, Brian, you're the one with the monnicker "Dick Muhfukkin
Bagswing" from "la...@my.nuts.wouldja?"! It's not like it's *my*
personal hobby or anyting. I just think it's surprising, but having
ribbed you about it I'll try to move on...

> > But how's this: in Alan Booth's Road to Sato, no matter *WHAT* in
> > the hell he does, no matter how often he says he's from England,
> > speaking good Japanese in the process, they nod and continue to ask
> > him questions about life in the US. An English speaker seems to
> > only come from the USA.
>
> And whose fault is this particular fuckup?

I was giving you bullets.

> Americans? Or the ignorant doof who believes it?

The ignorant doof who believes it of course, but the point of the story
is that we have a rep. Maybe it was doofus military boys, maybe the
idle arrogant tourist, maybe it's the image we have portrayed via our
TV/Movie hegemony, in conjunction with the attitudinal "values" we
demonstrate (see above). I don't know.

But a good solid ass-kissing won't change that one wit.

Gerry

未読、
2004/01/13 11:16:102004/01/13
To:
In article <BILMb.1925$4l3...@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>, Kevin Wayne
Williams <nih...@paxonet.kom> wrote:

They're engaged!

GHill18299

未読、
2004/01/16 9:42:092004/01/16
To:
How do people live in that hovel called Japan??

It's called being open-minded, preparing to live here, and not carrying your
home country's moral baggage with you. Adapt.

Gerry

未読、
2004/01/16 10:11:142004/01/16
To:
In article <20040116094209...@mb-m05.aol.com>, GHill18299
<ghill...@aol.com> wrote:

He did, in the only way some can; bellyaching and then leaving.

ifignow

未読、
2004/01/19 1:30:082004/01/19
To:

"GHill18299" <ghill...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040116094209...@mb-m05.aol.com...

> It's called being open-minded, preparing to live here, and not carrying
your
> home country's moral baggage with you. Adapt.

Let me know when you're moving to the garbage dumps of Cambodia, to live
amongst the garbage pickers.

Declan Murphy

未読、
2004/01/19 2:30:082004/01/19
To:

Its early days of course, but IMO you've got the "pissant of the year"
award already in your pocket. Do you work on your social skills or does
it all come naturally?


--
I am not who I think I am
I am not who you think I am
I am who I think you think I am

...or some such shite.

ifignow

未読、
2004/01/19 11:51:572004/01/19
To:

"Declan Murphy" <declan...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:400B8780...@hotmail.com...

> ifignow wrote:
> >>It's called being open-minded, preparing to live here, and not carrying
> > your home country's moral baggage with you. Adapt.
> > Let me know when you're moving to the garbage dumps of Cambodia, to live
> > amongst the garbage pickers.
> Its early days of course, but IMO you've got the "pissant of the year"
> award already in your pocket. Do you work on your social skills or does
> it all come naturally?

Oh now, did I spoil your pretentious little tea party, in your make-believe
world where you are more open minded than anyone else?


Mad Dan

未読、
2004/01/19 20:05:502004/01/19
To:
"ifignow" <ifi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<NWTOb.33808$VS4.1...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...


Ahhhh! Looks like our lickle baby troll likes it here! He's so cuuuuuuute!!

ifignow

未読、
2004/01/19 21:32:052004/01/19
To:

"Mad Dan" <mad...@keepitloud.com> wrote in message
news:badf481.0401...@posting.google.com...

> "ifignow" <ifi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<NWTOb.33808$VS4.1...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
> Ahhhh! Looks like our lickle baby troll likes it here! He's so
cuuuuuuute!!

Keep going with the ad hominem attacks, it makes you look worse.


Declan Murphy

未読、
2004/01/19 22:29:172004/01/19
To:

Oooooooooooooooooooh Latin! Not content to prove yourself a social leper
in Tokyo, now those of us happily living in "this hovel" get to witness
a true profundus maximus. Is it something you picked up with juggling?

Mad Dan

未読、
2004/01/20 4:35:172004/01/20
To:
"ifignow" <ifi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<Fq0Pb.71270$6y6.1...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...


Such poor Latin skills too. That wun't no ad hominem attack - that
were an "ad dickum" attack

Gerry

未読、
2004/01/20 10:56:422004/01/20
To:
In article <400CA08D...@hotmail.com>, Declan Murphy
<declan...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > Keep going with the ad hominem attacks, it makes you look worse.
>
> Oooooooooooooooooooh Latin! Not content to prove yourself a social leper
> in Tokyo, now those of us happily living in "this hovel" get to witness
> a true profundus maximus. Is it something you picked up with juggli

Jesus H Christ, the Fig is the most needy attention-sink I've ever
encountered. He is absolutely desparate for our attention. What a
gaping trench of unrequited NEED!

Dick Muhfukkin Bagswing

未読、
2004/01/21 7:17:432004/01/21
To:

>
> Jesus H Christ, the Fig is the most needy attention-sink I've ever
> encountered. He is absolutely desparate for our attention. What a
> gaping trench of unrequited NEED!
>


MORE than me??


Brian


Gerry

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2004/01/21 10:27:192004/01/21
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In article <bulqej$q0o$1...@nn-tk103.ocn.ad.jp>, Dick Muhfukkin Bagswing
<la...@my.nuts.wouldja?> wrote:

By comparison you're downright independent...

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