Shameful Slaughter of Dolphins in Japan
thegoons
Note following links:
1. http://smh.com.au/ftimages/2003/11/05/1067708222113.html
2. http://smh.com.au/ftimages/2003/11/05/1067708222111.html
3. http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/10/30/1067233315898.html
Bryan Parker
Fuck a dolphin! Save the chicken Mike Cash has
been choking for the last 20+ years. Save an
ugly-ass cow, a smelly old pig. Who decides which
animals are okay to kill and which are not? Our
Save the Cute Animals and Fuck the Ugly Ones
Policy is retarded.
--
Bryan
the severe subnormal foreigner
http://www.trainerbryan.com/old_fjlij.html
Declan Murphy
I guess the reason why you posted this 7 hours after the good ship
Obakesan (see thread in fjlij called "no point") wasn't because "He made
no particular reference to tha pic"?
--
"Thank God I'm an atheist" - Luis Bunuel
XxXxXx
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thegoons
"Declan Murphy" <declan...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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You always have been, and always will be, totally and utterly irrelevant.
Michael Cash
<declan...@hotmail.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going
with:
Seven hours we can try to be charitable and chalk it up to server lag.
It is when it gets into a matter of *days* that we have to roll up a
newspaper in order to further our efforts to housebreak the goonybird.
More interesting to me is the gratuitous (insulting?) comment he
attached.
Michael Cash
<puntspe...@yahoo.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going
with:
>"thegoons" <theg...@bigpond.com> said:
>
>>Shameful behaviour yet again by Japanese.
>>
>>Note following links:
>>
>>1. http://smh.com.au/ftimages/2003/11/05/1067708222113.html
>>2. http://smh.com.au/ftimages/2003/11/05/1067708222111.html
>>3. http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/10/30/1067233315898.html
>
>Fuck a dolphin!
I have video of a guy engaging in an intimate act with a dolphin. What
was that you were saying about me and my bug-eyed chicken?
m.yoshida
news:HU4qb.179713$bo1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Japanese shameful behaviour? Then see following sites:
http://tinyurl.com/tpy9
http://tinyurl.com/tpye
http://tinyurl.com/tpyg
http://tinyurl.com/tpyo
http://tinyurl.com/tpys
http://tinyurl.com/tpyw
Masayuki
USA
"m.yoshida" <ma...@yahoo.co.jp> wrote in message
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Is that Chinese food?
http://www.heretical.com/cannibal/china.html
http://www.geocities.com/orthopapism/anthropophagy3.html
http://www.jesus21.com/poppydixon/sex/chinese_eating_fetuses.html
Eric Takabayashi
> "thegoons" <theg...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> news:HU4qb.179713$bo1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > Shameful behaviour yet again by Japanese.
> >
> > Note following links:
> >
> > 1. http://smh.com.au/ftimages/2003/11/05/1067708222113.html
> > 2. http://smh.com.au/ftimages/2003/11/05/1067708222111.html
> > 3. http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/10/30/1067233315898.html
>
> Japanese shameful behaviour?
Yes. fjlij is the life in Japan group.
> Then see following sites:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/tpy9
> http://tinyurl.com/tpye
> http://tinyurl.com/tpyg
> http://tinyurl.com/tpyo
> http://tinyurl.com/tpys
> http://tinyurl.com/tpyw
Yes, Japanese also do abortions.
m.yoshida
"Eric Takabayashi" <eta...@yahoo.co.jp> wrote in message
news:3FA8FAF9...@yahoo.co.jp...
> "m.yoshida" wrote:
>
> > "thegoons" <theg...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> > news:HU4qb.179713$bo1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > > Shameful behaviour yet again by Japanese.
> > >
> > > Note following links:
> > >
> > > 1. http://smh.com.au/ftimages/2003/11/05/1067708222113.html
> > > 2. http://smh.com.au/ftimages/2003/11/05/1067708222111.html
> > > 3. http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/10/30/1067233315898.html
> >
> > Japanese shameful behaviour?
>
> Yes. fjlij is the life in Japan group.
Eating meat refers to selective manslaughter.
> > Then see following sites:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/tpy9
> > http://tinyurl.com/tpye
> > http://tinyurl.com/tpyg
> > http://tinyurl.com/tpyo
> > http://tinyurl.com/tpys
> > http://tinyurl.com/tpyw
>
> Yes, Japanese also do abortions.
I don't. ;-)
m.yoshida
>
> > "thegoons" <theg...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> > news:HU4qb.179713$bo1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > > Shameful behaviour yet again by Japanese.
> > >
> > > Note following links:
> > >
> > > 1. http://smh.com.au/ftimages/2003/11/05/1067708222113.html
> > > 2. http://smh.com.au/ftimages/2003/11/05/1067708222111.html
> > > 3. http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/10/30/1067233315898.html
> >
> > Japanese shameful behaviour?
>
> Yes. fjlij is the life in Japan group.
Eating meat refers to selective slaughter.
>
> > Then see following sites:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/tpy9
> > http://tinyurl.com/tpye
> > http://tinyurl.com/tpyg
> > http://tinyurl.com/tpyo
> > http://tinyurl.com/tpys
> > http://tinyurl.com/tpyw
>
> Yes, Japanese also do abortions.
I don't. ;-)
Bryan Parker
>On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 20:38:15 +0900, Bryan Parker
><puntspe...@yahoo.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going
>with:
>
>>"thegoons" <theg...@bigpond.com> said:
>>
>>>Shameful behaviour yet again by Japanese.
>>>
>>>Note following links:
>>>
>>>1. http://smh.com.au/ftimages/2003/11/05/1067708222113.html
>>>2. http://smh.com.au/ftimages/2003/11/05/1067708222111.html
>>>3. http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/10/30/1067233315898.html
>>
>>Fuck a dolphin!
>
>I have video of a guy engaging in an intimate act with a dolphin.
A *few* dolphins.
>What
>was that you were saying about me and my bug-eyed chicken?
Quit chokin' 'em, and start pokin' 'em.
This is what the dolphin bouncers do when you when
you get a little too intimate with the more
popular dolphinettes - (Hyooge Windows video file)
http://www.trainerbryan.com/files/Bryan002.WMV
Eric Takabayashi
> "Eric Takabayashi" <eta...@yahoo.co.jp> wrote in message
> news:3FA8FAF9...@yahoo.co.jp...
> > "m.yoshida" wrote:
> >
> > > "thegoons" <theg...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> > > news:HU4qb.179713$bo1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > > > Shameful behaviour yet again by Japanese.
> > > >
> > > > Note following links:
> > > >
> > > > 1. http://smh.com.au/ftimages/2003/11/05/1067708222113.html
> > > > 2. http://smh.com.au/ftimages/2003/11/05/1067708222111.html
> > > > 3. http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/10/30/1067233315898.html
> > >
> > > Japanese shameful behaviour?
> >
> > Yes. fjlij is the life in Japan group.
>
> Eating meat refers to selective manslaughter.
Yes. We kill animals to eat meat. I've killed animals.
If the animal is not endangered, and the meat is safe, I don't really
care. Note that even the Japanese government will acknowledge in very
small news items, that their research has revealed unacceptable levels
of dioxins and heavy metals in whales and dolphins, as well as certain
species of fish. But the Japanese continue to kill, and the Japanese
continue to eat anyway, while in an uproar over "foreign" food problems
such as GM foods, pesticides, bread enzymes, meat buns, cattle feed,
bottled water, mad cow and carp herpes.
A common Japanese reaction is to ban imports of foodstuffs they do not
approve of, resulting in such oddities as Subway Sandwich shops without
sandwiches, or Mr Donut Yumcha without meat buns. But note how the
Japanese whaling, fisheries, cattle, and agricultural industries
continue on despite any and all reported problems. In the case of
whaling, they are even expanding their hauls to greater numbers and more
species, and wish to resume full commercial operation.
Louise Bremner
> I guess the reason why you posted this 7 hours after the good ship
> Obakesan (see thread in fjlij called "no point") wasn't because "He made
> no particular reference to tha pic"?
Or maybe because obakesan didn't cross-post it?
________________________________________________________________________
Louise Bremner (log at gol dot com)
If you want a reply by e-mail, don't write to my Yahoo address!
Brett Robson
So you do read this newsgroup. Apparently replies to you though.
.
----
"No country hides itself behind the paper screen of cultural elitism like Japan,
which, considering they've bought their entire civilisation from other people's
hand-me-downs, is a bit of a liberty."
Brett Robson
>
> Our
>Save the Cute Animals and Fuck the Ugly Ones
>Policy is retarded.
>
u got it back to front, you fuck the cute animals.
Brett Robson
I fucked a girl called Yoshida once, was that your sister? I hope she didn't get
pregnant, I'm pretty ugly.
Brett Robson
very good, men shouldn't have abortions.
GOD BLESS AMERICA
Soon there will be no more fish, dolphin, whales, crabs, tuna etc left
in the ocean and thanks to Japan for all this.
"thegoons" <theg...@bigpond.com> wrote in message news:<HU4qb.179713$bo1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
GOD BLESS AMERICA
wrote:
>Japanese shameful behaviour? Then see following sites:
>
>http://tinyurl.com/tpy9
>http://tinyurl.com/tpye
>http://tinyurl.com/tpyg
>http://tinyurl.com/tpyo
>http://tinyurl.com/tpys
>http://tinyurl.com/tpyw
>
>Masayuki
Wow...nice Japanese website. I agree with Japanese being very good at
using Adobe Photoshop software to create wonderful pictures such as
the above ones you provided.
GOD BLESS AMERICA
wrote:
>"USA" <U...@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:UR6qb.2805$m55...@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
>> Shameful behavior yet again by Australians
>>
>> Note following links
>>
>> http://www.majormitchell.com.au/htah/htahmassacreaborig.html
>>
>> http://www.abc.net.au/frontier/stories/ep3.htm
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_aborigine
>>
>
>Totally, and utterly irrelevant
U...@aol.com is a SNEAKY Japanese who always like to change the subject
to divert people's attention away from the main topic.
mr.sumo snr.
"thegoons" <theg...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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Thanks for the cross-posting - nice to get lots of new morons all at the
same time.
--
jonathan
--
"Never give a gun to ducks"
Haluk
yazdi:kmvhqv0q5uslu4hgd...@4ax.com...
> Michael Cash <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> said:
>
> ...
> A *few* dolphins.
>
> >What
> >was that you were saying about me and my bug-eyed chicken?
>
> Quit chokin' 'em, and start pokin' 'em.
>
> This is what the dolphin bouncers do when you when
> you get a little too intimate with the more
> popular dolphinettes - (Hyooge Windows video file)
> http://www.trainerbryan.com/files/Bryan002.WMV
>
>
He looks as if his dick is stuck in to a dolphin
Haluk
yazdı:OX6qb.2807$m55...@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
God damn it man. This is some disgusting shit you posted here. At least put
a warning you know. You made me puke my guts out.
Dining while reading usenet postings is a common practice of mine, but I
guess I won't be doin' it no more.
Haluk
sunlari yazdi:d48745bb.03110...@posting.google.com...
> Japanese are responsible for the extinction of many Sea creatures.
> Soon there will be no more fish, dolphin, whales, crabs, tuna etc left
> in the ocean and thanks to Japan for all this.
>
Well, I personally think it is perfectly OK to kill animals for eating or
obtaining raw materials. We've been doing this all around the world for
lamb, chicken, cows, pigs, almost all fishes... List goes on.
What's the difference with dolphins or whales? If they (Japs) eat it or use
it for some other purpose, It is perfectly fine. Japanese can consume a
whale fully, without no leftovers. They can use meat, fat, bone,
intestinals, everything. So, economically it aint wasting.
Other people are killing animals just for fun. Opposing sport hunting I can
understand, but this is different.
What's next? Are we going to ban picking vegetables or herbs? They are alive
too?!?
Bryce
"thegoons" <theg...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> Shameful behaviour yet again by Japanese.
>
> Note following links:
>
> 1. http://smh.com.au/ftimages/2003/11/05/1067708222113.html
> 2. http://smh.com.au/ftimages/2003/11/05/1067708222111.html
> 3. http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/10/30/1067233315898.html
>
>
>
What's the difference between killing a dolphin and a cow?
Bryce
"Haluk" <yokoo...@spam.net> wrote in message
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Save the tomatoes! Remember: Attack of the Killer Tomatoes?
Haluk
yazdı:7Ucqb.1096$S06....@news.uswest.net...
I don't know that one. Is it a movie? Any good?
Eric Takabayashi
> God damn it man. This is some disgusting shit you posted here. At least put
> a warning you know. You made me puke my guts out.
The photos are indeed real, and such were generally available when reported by
news when it happened. I can no longer find reference to it, but it was a
piece of performance art called something like "eating humans" with even more
explicit coverage, including the performer's own impressions, which I guess I
will not tell you about. It disgusted me. Such photos and news reports were
often deliberately distorted and misused to attack Chinese people as
cannibals.
> Dining while reading usenet postings is a common practice of mine, but I
> guess I won't be doin' it no more.
You get used to it after a while.
Haluk
yazdı:HU4qb.179713$bo1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Shameful behaviour yet again by Japanese.
>
> Note following links:
>
> 1. http://smh.com.au/ftimages/2003/11/05/1067708222113.html
> 2. http://smh.com.au/ftimages/2003/11/05/1067708222111.html
> 3. http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/10/30/1067233315898.html
>
This is ridiculous. There are millions of things in the world that can be
defended and made subject to a reasonable civil action or a campaign. But
this isn't one of them.
If you want color in your social lives, you must do something about the war,
or feed some africans, or help unicef educating thirld world children, or...
Bryce
One of the worst movies ever made. Back in 1978 or so. Very low budget
horror flick that has a cult following. Furthermore, it's sequel, Return of
the Killer Tomatoes, had George Clooney in it. He must wanna forget about
those days.
Haluk
A *must see* than. Preferably on a Sunday morning with lots of time to
rewind and laugh over and over.
Eric Takabayashi
> "GOD BLESS AMERICA" <spreading_...@yahoo.com>, haber iletisinde
> sunlari yazdi:d48745bb.03110...@posting.google.com...
> > Japanese are responsible for the extinction of many Sea creatures.
> > Soon there will be no more fish, dolphin, whales, crabs, tuna etc left
> > in the ocean and thanks to Japan for all this.
>
> Well, I personally think it is perfectly OK to kill animals for eating or
> obtaining raw materials. We've been doing this all around the world for
> lamb, chicken, cows, pigs, almost all fishes... List goes on.
>
> What's the difference with dolphins or whales?
Even the Japanese government is recently publicly forced to acknowledge the
unsafe levels of heavy metals and pollutants such as dioxins contained in their
meat, while not restricting its sale and consumption the way they do INDIVIDUAL
Japanese beef carcasses with BSE (they did not cull millions of head or entire
generations of cattle the way some countries did in an effort to prevent spread
of the disease), or completely banning beef and feed imports from countries
that had instances of BSE even after measures as extreme as culls. Eating such
contaminated Japanese seafood is a much higher risk, probably a statistical
certainty based on test results, than encountering any foreign beef with BSE.
See a difference yet? When there is a Japanese problem, action may be limited
to an individual or company basis, as with Snow Brand, or simply disposing of
the sick cow. Not as nearly so when it is a "foreign" problem, and the entire
industry or country may be discriminated against.
> If they (Japs) eat it or use
> it for some other purpose, It is perfectly fine. Japanese can consume a
> whale fully, without no leftovers. They can use meat, fat, bone,
> intestinals, everything. So, economically it aint wasting.
Yes, Japanese whaling is not whaling for oil or baleen, which is why I do not
criticize them for simply doing it.
> Other people are killing animals just for fun. Opposing sport hunting I can
> understand, but this is different.
>
> What's next? Are we going to ban picking vegetables or herbs? They are alive
> too?!?
Now vegetables we do not know how to avoid.
Eric Takabayashi
> What's the difference between killing a dolphin and a cow?
When the animals swim into town? Nothing.
It's a hell of a lot of bother to go get a whale compared to a
farmed cow, however. But Japanese are willing to go halfway around
the world to the South Atlantic just to get some contaminated tuna,
however, so I guess they don't consider it different.
Bryce
...and keep the barf bucket nearby..
Bryce
which it shouldn't be. (different that is) killing is killing. How can one
say one is more important to keep around than another. One simply can't.
USA
"GOD BLESS AMERICA" <spreading_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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One day Flat faced Garlic smelling dog eating gooks like
Gook Bless America will learn how to use such software
USA
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Declan Murphy
> "Declan Murphy" <declan...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3FA8E643...@hotmail.com...
>
>><newsgroups trimmed>
>>
>>thegoons wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Note following links:
>>>
>>>1. http://smh.com.au/ftimages/2003/11/05/1067708222113.html
>>>2. http://smh.com.au/ftimages/2003/11/05/1067708222111.html
>>>3. http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/10/30/1067233315898.html
>>
>>Obakesan (see thread in fjlij called "no point") wasn't because "He made
>>no particular reference to tha pic"?
>
> You always have been, and always will be, totally and utterly irrelevant.
Oh I'm fully aware of that, and not just in fjlij. However I can think
of no good reason for you to keep me company.
All I'm asking (so unreasonably) is that you *read* recent postings to
fjlij first, reply through existing threads, and only start a new thread
if you have a post on what to fjlij-ers would be a new topic. That way
conversations aren't fragmented into different threads. Its a simple
etiquette thingee that has been around since usenet (and our fj.
parallel universe) began.
--
"Thank God I'm an atheist" - Luis Bunuel
Haluk
>
> ...
> > > One of the worst movies ever made. Back in 1978 or so. Very low budget
> > > horror flick that has a cult following. Furthermore, it's sequel,
Return
> > of
> > > the Killer Tomatoes, had George Clooney in it. He must wanna forget
> about
> > > those days.
> >
> > A *must see* than. Preferably on a Sunday morning with lots of time to
> > rewind and laugh over and over.
> >
> >
>
> ...and keep the barf bucket nearby..
Why? How disgusting a tomato can get anyway?
Declan Murphy
> "Haluk" <yokoo...@spam.net> wrote in message
> news:bobn6t$1cjhod$1...@ID-201738.news.uni-berlin.de...
>>A *must see* than. Preferably on a Sunday morning with lots of time to
>>rewind and laugh over and over.
>>
> ...and keep the barf bucket nearby..
I can't BELIEVE! this. How can you dis such a cinematic masterpiece?
Attack of the Killer Tomatoes was brilliant, and Return of the Killer
Tomatoes even better. Never mind Clooney of course, for me the highlight
was Karen Mistal. IMNSHO she was nearly as good in the sequel as she was
in Cannibal Women in the Avocado Jungle of Death.
cc
"Eric Takabayashi" <eta...@yahoo.co.jp> wrote in message
> > What's the difference with dolphins or whales?
>
> Even the Japanese government is recently publicly forced to acknowledge
the
> unsafe levels of heavy metals and pollutants such as dioxins contained in
their
> meat,
And other fish...and the effects of general over-fishing, of using
inadequate nets...the problem of selling dolphin as tuna and other false
labelling...pollution...non-respect of fishing zones...
etc. There are tons of real issues.
But you see the little "save cute dolphin" agitators doing anything about
that ? Ever ? It's easier for them to put sticks in the paws of the
traditional fishers, those that care the more about not causing irreversible
changes to environment.
> See a difference yet? When there is a Japanese problem, action may be
limited
> to an individual or company basis, as with Snow Brand, or simply disposing
of
> the sick cow. Not as nearly so when it is a "foreign" problem, and the
entire
> industry or country may be discriminated against.
They do like the US (or others). Each time there is a plausible pretext to
ban or restrict imports (in order to favor the local lobby and get a few
votes at the next election), they try it...When the problem is domestic (How
are your hormone beefs ? Fine ?), they hope it disappear by miracle or take
years to start reacting.
> > What's next? Are we going to ban picking vegetables or herbs? They are
alive
> > too?!?
>
> Now vegetables we do not know how to avoid.
A question of adaptation. The other day on TV, they showed a woman that
would have been eating earth for the last 5 years. 5 kg per day. She seemed
healthy and said she had even taken weight...Then a Japanese doctor
explained she had the intestinal flora like that of a mimizu and now she can
get nutriments directly from earth...I've rarely laught so much thanks to
Japanese TV.
CC
m.yoshida
> > > "m.yoshida" wrote:
> > >
> > > > "thegoons" <theg...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:HU4qb.179713$bo1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > > > >
> > > > > Note following links:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. http://smh.com.au/ftimages/2003/11/05/1067708222113.html
> > > > > 2. http://smh.com.au/ftimages/2003/11/05/1067708222111.html
> > > > > 3. http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/10/30/1067233315898.html
> > > >
> > >
> > > Yes. fjlij is the life in Japan group.
> >
>
> Yes. We kill animals to eat meat. I've killed animals.
>
> If the animal is not endangered, and the meat is safe, I don't really
> care. Note that even the Japanese government will acknowledge in very
> small news items, that their research has revealed unacceptable levels
> of dioxins and heavy metals in whales and dolphins, as well as certain
> species of fish. But the Japanese continue to kill, and the Japanese
> continue to eat anyway, while in an uproar over "foreign" food problems
> such as GM foods, pesticides, bread enzymes, meat buns, cattle feed,
> bottled water, mad cow and carp herpes.
>
> A common Japanese reaction is to ban imports of foodstuffs they do not
> approve of, resulting in such oddities as Subway Sandwich shops without
> sandwiches, or Mr Donut Yumcha without meat buns. But note how the
> Japanese whaling, fisheries, cattle, and agricultural industries
> continue on despite any and all reported problems. In the case of
> whaling, they are even expanding their hauls to greater numbers and more
> species, and wish to resume full commercial operation.
It appears that you enjoy good health...
USA
"GOOK BLESS AMERICA" <spreading_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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GOOK BLESS AMERICA <spreading_...@yahoo.com>
is a sneaky dog eating korean pretending to be American and Japanese.
Neither of which he can never be.
Eric Takabayashi
> It appears that you enjoy good health...
So far.
No, I'll probably die of lifestyle related cancer or circulatory disease of
some sort like the average human, most likely related to eating meat or
physical inactivity; or some genetically related condition like other people
in my family.
Bryan Parker
There were actually 3 dolphinettes in that short
clip. The one you never see was tossing my salad.
--
Bryan
the severe subnormal foreigner
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Eric Takabayashi
> "Eric Takabayashi" <eta...@yahoo.co.jp> wrote in message
>
> > > What's the difference with dolphins or whales?
> >
> > Even the Japanese government is recently publicly forced to acknowledge
> the
> > unsafe levels of heavy metals and pollutants such as dioxins contained in
> their
> > meat,
>
> And other fish...
That's right. The government has admitted that a small handful of fish are
unsafe. But we are talking about dolphin meat, which are the worst, or worst
after whale meat.
> and the effects of general over-fishing, of using
> inadequate nets...the problem of selling dolphin as tuna and other false
> labelling...pollution...non-respect of fishing zones...
> etc. There are tons of real issues.
> But you see the little "save cute dolphin" agitators doing anything about
> that ?
I've seen dolphin issues related to fishing issues. So what if cetacean
conservationists are not involved in every single cause?
> Ever ? It's easier for them to put sticks in the paws of the
> traditional fishers, those that care the more about not causing irreversible
> changes to environment.
>
> > See a difference yet? When there is a Japanese problem, action may be
> limited
> > to an individual or company basis, as with Snow Brand, or simply disposing
> of
> > the sick cow. Not as nearly so when it is a "foreign" problem, and the
> entire
> > industry or country may be discriminated against.
>
> They do like the US (or others).
Yes, but we are talking about Japan. People who bitch about the US or WTO are
probably posting elsewhere.
> Each time there is a plausible pretext to
> ban or restrict imports (in order to favor the local lobby and get a few
> votes at the next election), they try it...When the problem is domestic (How
> are your hormone beefs ? Fine ?),
No, I do not support many American farming practices or government policies.
Perhaps you've noticed.
> they hope it disappear by miracle or take years to start reacting.
>
> > > What's next? Are we going to ban picking vegetables or herbs? They are
> alive
> > > too?!?
> >
> > Now vegetables we do not know how to avoid.
>
> A question of adaptation. The other day on TV, they showed a woman that
> would have been eating earth for the last 5 years. 5 kg per day. She seemed
> healthy and said she had even taken weight...Then a Japanese doctor
> explained she had the intestinal flora like that of a mimizu and now she can
> get nutriments directly from earth...I've rarely laught so much thanks to
> Japanese TV.
But do you believe it? I've seen Chinese doctors on Japanese TV use medical
test results and witness statements to prove that a Chinese university student
had not eaten anything in about ten years, as per her claims. So why don't such
people subject themselves to scientific peer review, or even the Amazing Randi,
to claim his generous reward? Living without food would bring a revolution to
humanity, as well as riches for its creators, teachers or promoters.
I've also seen Japanese cameras go to a public exhibition in China where a
female human head has lived without a body (or breathing or food) for some
years.
cc
"Eric Takabayashi" <eta...@yahoo.co.jp> wrote in message
>Yes, but we are talking about Japan. People who bitch about the US or WTO
are
>probably posting elsewhere.
Well either you consider it's Japan's problem, in that case, you have to
admit that's absolutely not the business of Canadian (?) dolphinophiles
(Should they not worry about the ESB and slaughter of lobsters ?)
....OR that's a problem that should be discussed globally.
Unfortunately, I see it's still decided -or not decided-country by country
while the issues are global (not only fish move but that becomes hard to
trace the origine of your food and nothing proves that Japanese contaminated
dolphin is not actually eaten in Mexico or London, etc).
> > A question of adaptation. The other day on TV, they showed a woman that
> > would have been eating earth for the last 5 years. 5 kg per day. She
seemed
> > healthy and said she had even taken weight...Then a Japanese doctor
> > explained she had the intestinal flora like that of a mimizu and now she
can
> > get nutriments directly from earth...I've rarely laught so much thanks
to
> > Japanese TV.
>
> But do you believe it?
Certainly not !
I know certain clays and rock salt are used to cook, but that's completely
different.
My grand-father told me about guys he met at the end of the war, Russians
(?) soldiers-prisoners-refugees-desertors (who knows ?) that had taken the
habit to eat grass and earth, to complete their alimentation, and they were
all in very very bad health condition(even for 1945 standards)had all the
illnesses caused by lack of vitamins and proteins.
The other thing is the woman on TV was eating earth she'd pick up anywhere
without boiling it. Hard to believe you survive long that way. You may have
heard of that illness that was common in Hawaii and Celtic countries as they
cooked their food in earth, and also tetanos you can get if you touch earth
while you have a wound on your hand.
>I've seen Chinese doctors on Japanese TV use medical
> test results and witness statements to prove that a Chinese university
student
> had not eaten anything in about ten years, as per her claims.
That's like Santa Teresa or I don't remember the others saints that lived 20
years without eating. That the Vatican or Japanese TV believes it makes me
nothing.
>So why don't such
> people subject themselves to scientific peer review, or even the Amazing
Randi,
> to claim his generous reward?
That's like Saibaba, and other cheats. The real ones accept scientific
investigation.
>Living without food would bring a revolution to
> humanity,
Sure.
>As well as riches for its creators, teachers or promoters.
Not sure. They all make more money with food, overeating and hunger.
There is already enough food to make all the human beings on earth
obese...and you see well, 3/4 of the world eat less than they should.
Probably the technologies to transform earth into complete "food" for
humans, inside a laboratory already exist.
CC
That Guy
I agree except when a particular species is threatened with extinction.
It's common sense, really. For example, whales are a great resource--for
food, raw materials, etc-- and they are self-replenishing, unless they are
all killed. Since whales are self-replenishing, they are a theoretically
infinite resource. To throw away such a resource is incredibly foolish.
Same with any species. Even is a species of plant or animal is not
currently being used, the potential is there. Plants and animals are
chemical factories more efficient than anything we can build. Allowing a
plant or animal to go extinct without first studying every possible use it
could have for mankind now or in the future is like throwing away large
sections of the earth because they are in your way, without checking to see
if they have any valuable raw materials first.
Admittedly, this is a humanocentric way of thinking, but it ultimately
justifies conservation of species in terms even the most hardcore "humanity
first" people would have a hard time disagreeing with.
Eric Takabayashi
> "Eric Takabayashi" <eta...@yahoo.co.jp> wrote in message
>
> >Yes, but we are talking about Japan. People who bitch about the US or WTO
> are
> >probably posting elsewhere.
>
> Well either you consider it's Japan's problem, in that case, you have to
> admit that's absolutely not the business of Canadian (?) dolphinophiles
> (Should they not worry about the ESB and slaughter of lobsters ?)
Even if it were only Japan's problem, why shouldn't other people get involved?
> ....OR that's a problem that should be discussed globally.
It is discussed internationally. There are also international agreements, which
is the problem when Japan and whaling are concerned.
> Unfortunately, I see it's still decided -or not decided-country by country
> while the issues are global (not only fish move but that becomes hard to
> trace the origine of your food and nothing proves that Japanese contaminated
> dolphin is not actually eaten in Mexico or London, etc).
Do they eat dolphin?
> > > A question of adaptation. The other day on TV, they showed a woman that
> > > would have been eating earth for the last 5 years. 5 kg per day. She
> seemed
> > > healthy and said she had even taken weight...Then a Japanese doctor
> > > explained she had the intestinal flora like that of a mimizu and now she
> can
> > > get nutriments directly from earth...I've rarely laught so much thanks
> to
> > > Japanese TV.
> >
> > But do you believe it?
>
> Certainly not !
Then we're back to the issue of needing to kill plants for food, no matter how
we feel about them.
Bryce
out of storyline, or what storyline there was anyways.
cc
"Eric Takabayashi" <eta...@yahoo.co.jp> wrote in message
> > Unfortunately, I see it's still decided -or not decided-country by
country
> > while the issues are global (not only fish move but that becomes hard to
> > trace the origine of your food and nothing proves that Japanese
contaminated
> > dolphin is not actually eaten in Mexico or London, etc).
>
> Do they eat dolphin?
Yes. Not intentionnally.
That was proven several times that tuna cans sold all over the world
contained dolphin. Do they sell it as "iruka" or "maguro" in your local
shotengai ? In Osaka, whale is sold as kujira (I see some nearly year
round), but dolphin is sold it as maguro.
And well, so many dishes ready-to-eat contain dozens of ingredients, so if
you buy jar of seafood pasta sauce, hard to know where the ingredients come
from. Most times, it's written seafood extracts and meat, no detail, no
origine of ingredients.
I worked for a wholesaler of meat, he'd buy from and sell to over 60
different countries, certain meats were animals born in country A, raised in
country B, slaughtered in country C, cut in country D, then sold in country
E to a local wholesale butchery, and so on...
People that are allergic or need to identify their food for
ideologic/religious reasons can't buy half of the products of an average
supermarket, as it's impossible to be 'sure' of the content.(supposing the
labels don't lie...which is not even guaranted)
I know many persons, that for themselves or their job in food industry,
tried to contact food makers to obtain detailed lists of ingredients and
country of origine for each, they rarely received a complete answer. Danone
could not tell the country of origine of the milk in their yogourts sold in
France (composition : 99% milk, 1% milk bacteries) to a cook I know, they
told him they had no idea themselves as they or their providers mix
different milks they buy all over. But they say "Don't worry it's safe, we
take only first quality ingredients !". How could they know ?
> Then we're back to the issue of needing to kill plants for food, no matter
how
> we feel about them.
Never seen that as an issue for myself. Idem for eating meat. I don't
believe in ideological
vegetarism/veganism, those people walk on ants like anybody else. But , they
disturb me in nothing, as long as don't tell me to do like them.
CC
Bryce
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>
> "Eric Takabayashi" <eta...@yahoo.co.jp> wrote in message
>
> > > Unfortunately, I see it's still decided -or not decided-country by
> country
> > > while the issues are global (not only fish move but that becomes hard
to
> >
You know what kicks butt?
Panda meat! oiishiiiiiii!
vernon...@oyama.ca
cpasune...@spam.com says...
> Well either you consider it's Japan's problem, in that case, you have to
> admit that's absolutely not the business of Canadian (?) dolphinophiles
> (Should they not worry about the ESB and slaughter of lobsters ?)
>
cattle (at least 8) than Canadian (only 1).
As for lobsters vs. dophins, it's a tough choice. I like lobster better.
;-)
Seriously, though, the slaughtering of "animals" (including fish and
crustaceans) seems harder to justify the more "intelligent" the animals
are. Do crustaceans and fish feel emotions? Are they terrified at the
prospect of being killed? Do their "families" miss them? What about
cows? Sheep? Dolphins? Apes? I don't think anyone knows the answers
yet.
At this point, I'd have to say that as long as the animals are not
endangered, are slaughtered humanely, and the meat is safe for human
consumption, I can't bitch whether it's dogs, dolphins or cows.
Verno
Bryce
<vernon...@oyama.ca> wrote in message
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It comes down to your definition of endagered though. The definition is
usually bullshit and costs the economy. Who gives a shit about the brown
freckled owl with two spots on his butt. They can all die. In fact, if no
one had ever told anyone they existed, no one would have known and it
wouldn't have mattered. Millions of species have bit the dust in billions of
years and the world is still turning.
obakesan
In article <bobkpe$1bt1a7$1...@ID-201738.news.uni-berlin.de>, "Haluk"
<yokoo...@spam.net> wrote:
>"GOD BLESS AMERICA" <spreading_...@yahoo.com>, haber iletisinde
>sunlari yazdi:d48745bb.03110...@posting.google.com...
>> Japanese are responsible for the extinction of many Sea creatures.
>> Soon there will be no more fish, dolphin, whales, crabs, tuna etc left
>> in the ocean and thanks to Japan for all this.
>>
>
>Well, I personally think it is perfectly OK to kill animals for eating or
>obtaining raw materials. We've been doing this all around the world for
>lamb, chicken, cows, pigs, almost all fishes... List goes on.
>
>What's the difference with dolphins or whales? If they (Japs) eat it or use
I guess that the main difference is we farm lamb, chicken, cows, pigs
but we simply hunter gather the others. I don't see stocks of chicken being
depleted
but actually I didn't want to make a point, I just thought it was an
interesting sight, and posted it. From it, I've learnt (from Eric I think)
that the mercury levels in the meat are high enough, that if it was imported
beef, itd be banned.
omoshiroi ...
See Ya
(when bandwidth gets better ;-)
Chris Eastwood
we tend to blame others for our problems
I think this is something we inherit from our parents
please remove undies for reply
vernon...@oyama.ca
fuk...@takethisout.hotmail.com says...
Yes, but so is Mars. ;-)
It's true that species extinction has been happening since life began.
However, I wouldn't say that justifies hunting, fishing, or crowding
species out of existence. Humans have never been so numerous as we are
today, and our activities create a risk of global climate change with
unknown and potentially devastating effects. Faced with that, it's
better to be prudent than to take chances. For that reason, I'd say
where human activity appears to be the cause of species extinctions, we
ought to back off.
Verno
Haluk Skywalker
yazdı:MPG.1a144b17...@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...
> In article <bodp54$l8u$1...@bgsv5648.tk.mesh.ad.jp>,
> cpasune...@spam.com says...
> > Well either you consider it's Japan's problem, in that case, you have to
> > admit that's absolutely not the business of Canadian (?) dolphinophiles
> > (Should they not worry about the ESB and slaughter of lobsters ?)
> >
> If you mean BSE, there are more recorded cases of BSE among Japanese
> cattle (at least 8) than Canadian (only 1).
>
> As for lobsters vs. dophins, it's a tough choice. I like lobster better.
> ;-)
>
> Seriously, though, the slaughtering of "animals" (including fish and
> crustaceans) seems harder to justify the more "intelligent" the animals
> are.
You don't have to talk to animal and convince them to accept slaughter. So I
presume intelligence has nothing to do with it. It's about nutrition and
taste.
Haluk Skywalker
yazdı:boen2b$918$2...@kraken.itc.gu.edu.au...
> HiYa
>
> In article <bobkpe$1bt1a7$1...@ID-201738.news.uni-berlin.de>, "Haluk"
> <yokoo...@spam.net> wrote:
> >"GOD BLESS AMERICA" <spreading_...@yahoo.com>, haber iletisinde
> >sunlari yazdi:d48745bb.03110...@posting.google.com...
> >> Japanese are responsible for the extinction of many Sea creatures.
> >> Soon there will be no more fish, dolphin, whales, crabs, tuna etc left
> >> in the ocean and thanks to Japan for all this.
> >>
> >
> >Well, I personally think it is perfectly OK to kill animals for eating or
> >obtaining raw materials. We've been doing this all around the world for
> >lamb, chicken, cows, pigs, almost all fishes... List goes on.
> >
> >What's the difference with dolphins or whales? If they (Japs) eat it or
use
>
> I guess that the main difference is we farm lamb, chicken, cows, pigs
>
> but we simply hunter gather the others. I don't see stocks of chicken
being
> depleted
>
> but actually I didn't want to make a point, I just thought it was an
> interesting sight, and posted it.
That is one good point though.
vernon...@oyama.ca
yokoo...@spam.net says...
Interesting point. You don't have to talk to people to convince them to
accept slaughter either.
> So I
> presume intelligence has nothing to do with it. It's about nutrition and
> taste.
>
Are you a cannibal by any chance?
Verno
Michael Cash
<fuk...@takethisout.hotmail.com> belched the alphabet and kept on
going with:
>
>"thegoons" <theg...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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>> Shameful behaviour yet again by Japanese.
>>
>> Note following links:
>>
>> 1. http://smh.com.au/ftimages/2003/11/05/1067708222113.html
>> 2. http://smh.com.au/ftimages/2003/11/05/1067708222111.html
>> 3. http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/10/30/1067233315898.html
>>
>>
>>
>
>What's the difference between killing a dolphin and a cow?
Well, depending on how you go about it, there is no danger of losing
your footing and falling down while killing a dolphin. On the other
hand, there is a much lesser danger of drowning while killing a cow.
thegoons
"Bryce" <fuk...@takethisout.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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One could only hope that your type was extinct Bryce. You buffoon.
Eric Takabayashi
> "Eric Takabayashi" <eta...@yahoo.co.jp> wrote in message
>
> > > Unfortunately, I see it's still decided -or not decided-country by
> country
> > > while the issues are global (not only fish move but that becomes hard to
> > > trace the origine of your food and nothing proves that Japanese
> contaminated
> > > dolphin is not actually eaten in Mexico or London, etc).
> >
> > Do they eat dolphin?
>
> Yes. Not intentionnally.
> That was proven several times that tuna cans sold all over the world
> contained dolphin. Do they sell it as "iruka" or "maguro" in your local
> shotengai ? In Osaka, whale is sold as kujira (I see some nearly year
> round), but dolphin is sold it as maguro.
Does dolphin look and taste like tuna in raw, cooked and canned form?
Eric Takabayashi
> HiYa
>
> >What's the difference with dolphins or whales? If they (Japs) eat it or use
>
> I guess that the main difference is we farm lamb, chicken, cows, pigs
Speaking of seafood, many in the world contribute to depletion of stocks. Even
the common tuna is on the decline.
> but we simply hunter gather the others. I don't see stocks of chicken being
> depleted
>
> but actually I didn't want to make a point, I just thought it was an
> interesting sight, and posted it. From it, I've learnt (from Eric I think)
No, you can read it readily enough for yourself. It's no secret, in English at
least.
> that the mercury levels in the meat are high enough, that if it was imported
> beef, itd be banned.
No, beef and cattle feed from countries with confirmed BSE are banned in Japan,
while Japanese beef continues to be promoted as perfectly safe. FINDING
infected cattle is offered as proof of how safe and effective the Japanese
system is. Japan does NOT cull millions of head of cattle as in Europe. We
don't even know so far that more than the nine cows in Japan with BSE have not
been contaminated in the course of slaughter or processing, because the same
tools and blades were of course used on other cows as well. So the infected cow
in Fukuyama was destroyed. That's nice. How about all the other cows processed
at that time, and on that day before cleaning?
> omoshiroi ...
Sad but true.
Bryce
baffoon? thegoon?
It says it all.
cc
"Eric Takabayashi" <eta...@yahoo.co.jp> wrote in message
> > > Do they eat dolphin?
> >
> > Yes. Not intentionnally.
> > That was proven several times that tuna cans sold all over the world
> > contained dolphin. Do they sell it as "iruka" or "maguro" in your local
> > shotengai ? In Osaka, whale is sold as kujira (I see some nearly year
> > round), but dolphin is sold it as maguro.
>
> Does dolphin look and taste like tuna in raw, cooked and canned form?
Yes.
Dolphin meat is between kujira and maguro, that probably also depends on the
species.
Here is a photo of dolphin meat, you see the 2 colors it can get, there are
large pieces of dolphin meat completely of the shade of the light part near
the skin (you see much darker maguro in markets) :
Maguro sells better and more expensive than kujira now, and they don't seem
to have a market for iruka, so...
There are lots of differences of tastes between the different tunas (I'd
have said your Hawaian ahi was of a completely different family of fish), so
I could have told that was dolphin meat was not salmon or sardine, but tuna
?
Once it's cooked, it's even less recognizable. You know well that the canned
stuff tastes of everything and nothing. What do "sea chicken" and "tuna
mayonnaise" taste and look like ? French tuna fishers I've seen on TV and in
real life recognized that " in the past" when they caught dolphins among
tunas, they didn't always get rid of them and mixed their meat with the
tuna's for on-board tuna-can preparation.
You say they take 20 000 dolphin for the quota ? Add those they catch "by
accident" while netfishing tuna. That makes several millions of kg of
dolphin meat on Japanese market. How often did you see "iruka" on a can or
on a label for fresh fish ?
Kuri