no point
obakesan
http://smh.com.au/ftimages/2003/11/05/1067708222113.html
See Ya
(when bandwidth gets better ;-)
Chris Eastwood
we tend to blame others for our problems
I think this is something we inherit from our parents
please remove undies for reply
Brett Robson
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>http://smh.com.au/ftimages/2003/11/05/1067708222113.html
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Why are they swimming in rasberry cordial? Does that attract the dolphines.
Ps do you know the kanji for iruka (dolphines), ocean pig.
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Declan Murphy
> http://smh.com.au/ftimages/2003/11/05/1067708222113.html
I have video of a small pod of pilot whales also in a cove in Taiji,
looked pretty similar to that cove, though they all look the same
(without the blood at least). I shot the footage late 1999 or
thereabouts. 7 pilot whales, 2 of them dead in a small netted enclosure,
with the 2 washing up against the sand. I'm not sure if the 2 dead ones
ended up on restuarant tables as well, or whether only the 5 genki
whales were sold.
I haven't put the footage on yamasa's site for fear viewers would eat up
my bandwidth.
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Travers Naran
> Why are they swimming in rasberry cordial? Does that attract the dolphines.
Yes. You use lime cordial to attract pilot whales.
> Ps do you know the kanji for iruka (dolphines), ocean pig.
I learned that from an anime of all places.
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That would be a lot more believable if it hadnt been so heavily
photoshopped.
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Brett Robson
>
>Brett Robson wrote:
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>> Why are they swimming in rasberry cordial? Does that attract the dolphines.
>
>Yes. You use lime cordial to attract pilot whales.
>
Imagine swimming in it. You'd be all sticky and dogs would follow you around.
>> Ps do you know the kanji for iruka (dolphines), ocean pig.
>
>I learned that from an anime of all places.
>
I won't tell you what I learnt.
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> That would be a lot more believable if it hadnt been so heavily
> photoshopped.
I don't know... I saw footage of a similar dolphin round-up on Japanese TV a
few years back, and the water was a similar colour.
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Saitama, Japan
cc
"Fabian" <laj...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> That would be a lot more believable if it hadnt been so heavily
> photoshopped.
They want it to be believable ?
CC
Brett Robson
>
>obakesan hu kiteb:
>
>> [snip link]
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>
>That would be a lot more believable if it hadnt been so heavily
>photoshopped.
>
It hasn't been photoshopped.
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Eric Takabayashi
> On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:04:10 +0900, Fabian ...
> >
> >obakesan hu kiteb:
> >
> >> [snip link]
> >>
> >That would be a lot more believable if it hadnt been so heavily
> >photoshopped.
>
> It hasn't been photoshopped.
He should see the old time videos of large species whale hunting.
Brett Robson
I've seen them being chopped up, yuck.
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Travers Naran
> On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 05:28:59 GMT, Travers Naran ...
> >
> >Brett Robson wrote:
> >
> >> Why are they swimming in rasberry cordial? Does that attract the dolphines.
> >
> >Yes. You use lime cordial to attract pilot whales.
> >
>
> Imagine swimming in it. You'd be all sticky and dogs would follow you around.
Dogs like lime cordial? I thought that just attracted wasps, and not
the snobby Vermont/Conneticut kind.
> >> Ps do you know the kanji for iruka (dolphines), ocean pig.
> >
> >I learned that from an anime of all places.
> >
>
> I won't tell you what I learnt.
That's for the best, I think.
Eric Takabayashi
> >He should see the old time videos of large species whale hunting.
>
> I've seen them being chopped up, yuck.
They are known to contain heavy metals and other pollutants such as dioxin, in
amounts unsafe even by Japanese standards, as found even by Japanese researchers
and admitted by the govt ministries themselves, yet their innards are roasted and
eaten as a snack by fishermen, and the meat given to children, yuck.
And I didn't know the government had known for decades. I thought they just
admitted it in recent years.
Haluk
yazd?:boabbn$1bic9g$2...@ID-174912.news.uni-berlin.de...
> obakesan hu kiteb:
>
> > [snip link]
> >
>
> That would be a lot more believable if it hadnt been so heavily
> photoshopped.
>
>
Actually Fabian, it may not be photoshopped. You'd be suprised how much a
mammal can bleed. Besides, AFAIK, they slaughter dolphins in water and wait
until most of the blood drained.
Haluk
yazd?:3FA95358...@yahoo.co.jp...
> Brett Robson wrote:
>
> > >He should see the old time videos of large species whale hunting.
> >
> > I've seen them being chopped up, yuck.
>
> They are known to contain heavy metals and other pollutants such as
dioxin, in
Depending on the fishing site, all fish may, and often do contain certain
heavy metals. Especially mercury. Human body can't dispose them so they pile
up inside our bodies.
If you have too much fish for dinner, there is no way of explaining the
security at the airport that the beep is due to large amounts of mercury
deposited in your body. You might end up telling the story about pair of
hands in latex gloves to your shrink...
cc
"Haluk" <yokoo...@spam.net> wrote in message
> "Fabian" <laj...@hotmail.com>, haber iletisinde ?unlar?
> yazd?:boabbn$1bic9g$2...@ID-174912.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > obakesan hu kiteb:
> >
> > > [snip link]
> > >
> >
> > That would be a lot more believable if it hadnt been so heavily
> > photoshopped.
> Actually Fabian, it may not be photoshopped.
It is done with pencils, a pair of scissor and glue..
>You'd be suprised how much a
> mammal can bleed.
That's not the question. Professionnally made videos of whale, dolphin,
seal, etc traditional hunting regularly pass on serious TV channels. They
are even filmed from the boats themselves. But those 2 photos show tons of
details that tell they are montages, not completely, but partially.
A group of pseudo-ecologists needed something more than spectacular for
their
Halloween Dolphin Day event. Dolphins are more intelligent than them, no
doubt.
CC
Eric Takabayashi
> A group of pseudo-ecologists needed something more than spectacular for
> their
> Halloween Dolphin Day event. Dolphins are more intelligent than them, no
> doubt.
Dolphins should be smart enough to avoid fishermen with their boats,
noisemakers and nets, and being herded into shore or small coves where people
on foot in the shallows can kill them. They should be able to avoid purse
nets by jumping, too.
I remember a time when whale researchers complained that whales avoided them,
because they claimed the sight and sound of the research vessels reminded the
whales of whaling ships. Those whales were smarter than the dolphins.
cc
"Eric Takabayashi" <eta...@yahoo.co.jp> wrote in message
> Dolphins should be smart enough to avoid fishermen with their boats,
> noisemakers and nets,
That's why it's hard to believe the 5 (or 6 ?) guys with 1 old water-ski
boat got all those dolphins you see in the photo in one catch. In all the
videos I have seen, they were much more equipped for fewer catches...and I
see the fishers of the area using better boats to get 1 or 2 hamachi.
Or that really means idiot dolphins are as numerous as jelly fish around
Japanese coasts...Well, I've eaten both, and contaminated or not, I
definitely prefer dolphin.
>They should be able to avoid purse
> nets by jumping, too.
That is harder with certain types of nets for deep sea fishing. They cover
completely a huge space of water. They'd trap a submarine.
I've heard scientists say the most intelligent animals are pigs, and well,
they are not hard to catch (I'd call mine and they'd rush on me to sniff my
hands and pockets to check I was not hiding cookies or sweets).
CC
Eric Takabayashi
> "Eric Takabayashi" <eta...@yahoo.co.jp> wrote in message
>
> > Dolphins should be smart enough to avoid fishermen with their boats,
> > noisemakers and nets,
>
> That's why it's hard to believe the 5 (or 6 ?) guys with 1 old water-ski
> boat got all those dolphins you see in the photo in one catch.
You can tell by the blood in the water that it didn't happen all at once, and
it hardly looks like a lot of dolphins. Fishermen in Taiji were reported
saying they only caught 60 or so, so far this year, but Japan allows 22,000
per year, in ten locations. Before the quota, they've caught more than 40,000
in a year. So Japanese fishermen get a lot somehow, no matter how difficult it
may be.
Dolphin survivors should know enough to avoid Japanese shores and tuna boats,
the way some whales allegedly avoid ships which remind them of whaling
vessels.
And when fishermen get lucky, they are damned lucky. I know a man who caught
96 sea bream alive in a single day, by himself, with a fishing pole off his
boat at his secret fishing spot. I've also seen how a lone elderly fisherman
on the Seto Inland Sea sets out his line of hooks, and hauled it in later to
find one or two hundred sea bream, nearly every hook with a catch. How people
can target their catch so precisely is beyond me.
> In all the
> videos I have seen, they were much more equipped for fewer catches...and I
> see the fishers of the area using better boats to get 1 or 2 hamachi.
> Or that really means idiot dolphins are as numerous as jelly fish around
> Japanese coasts...Well, I've eaten both, and contaminated or not, I
> definitely prefer dolphin.
>
> >They should be able to avoid purse nets by jumping, too.
>
> That is harder with certain types of nets for deep sea fishing. They cover
> completely a huge space of water. They'd trap a submarine.
Submarines don't jump. I've seen some footage of trapped dolphins. They should
have jumped before the nets were closed or hauled.
cc
"Eric Takabayashi" <eta...@yahoo.co.jp> wrote in message
> > That's why it's hard to believe the 5 (or 6 ?) guys with 1 old water-ski
> > boat got all those dolphins you see in the photo in one catch.
>
> You can tell by the blood in the water that it didn't happen all at once,
and
> it hardly looks like a lot of dolphins.
That's a lot for 5 guys to carry them with their arms without how do you
call that ? the thing you roll to carry big fish.
And if that had taken hours, the blood would have gone away. You can get the
sea full red
during a few minutes, not hours. It's not even still water and salt cleans
the blood.
Well that's not important.
> They should have jumped before the nets were closed or hauled.
I've seen photos/videos of marriages that desserve the same conclusion.
CC
obakesan
In article <bo9to...@drn.newsguy.com>, Brett Robson <jet...@deja.com>
wrote:
>On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 04:04:40 GMT, obakesan ...
>>
>>
>>http://smh.com.au/ftimages/2003/11/05/1067708222113.html
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>
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>Why are they swimming in rasberry cordial? Does that attract the dolphines.
>
>Ps do you know the kanji for iruka (dolphines), ocean pig.
>
actually, I didn't know that ... thanks :-) !!
umibuta .... omoshiroi
Brett Robson
>
>cc wrote:
>
>> A group of pseudo-ecologists needed something more than spectacular for
>> their
>> Halloween Dolphin Day event. Dolphins are more intelligent than them, no
>> doubt.
>
>Dolphins should be smart enough to avoid fishermen with their boats,
>noisemakers and nets, and being herded into shore or small coves where people
>on foot in the shallows can kill them. They should be able to avoid purse
>nets by jumping, too.
>
They just chuck a ball into the water and the dolphines play with it.
.
Brett Robson
>
>You can tell by the blood in the water that it didn't happen all at once, and
>it hardly looks like a lot of dolphins. Fishermen in Taiji were reported
>saying they only caught 60 or so, so far this year, but Japan allows 22,000
>per year, in ten locations. Before the quota, they've caught more than 40,000
>in a year. So Japanese fishermen get a lot somehow, no matter how difficult it
>may be.
Fish go to hot spots, this is why fisherman don't notice declines in fish stocks
until they are exhausted. Imagine killing everyone in Shibuya, next day there
are as many as the day before. No matter how many you killThis continues until
the entire population of Japan is exhausted and one day there are no fish, er
Japanese left.