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SR

未読、
2003/10/28 21:48:292003/10/28
To:
Has nothing to do with Japan, but there are many from the US who might be
surprised by the answer...


> What do the following US states have in common?
>
> Kentucky
> Vermont
> Massachusetts
> Illinois
> New York
> Minnesota
> Michigan
> Wisconsin
> California
> Iowa
> Indiana
>Maine
>Ohio
>West Virginia

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Brett Robson

未読、
2003/10/28 21:59:042003/10/28
To:
On 29 Oct 2003 02:48:29 GMT, SR ...

>
>Has nothing to do with Japan, but there are many from the US who might be
>surprised by the answer...
>
>
>> What do the following US states have in common?
>>
>> Kentucky
>> Vermont
>> Massachusetts
>> Illinois
>> New York
>> Minnesota
>> Michigan
>> Wisconsin
>> California
>> Iowa
>> Indiana
>>Maine
>>Ohio
>>West Virginia
>

they have all had battleships named after them.

----
"No country hides itself behind the paper screen of cultural elitism like Japan,
which, considering they've bought their entire civilisation from other people's
hand-me-downs, is a bit of a liberty."

SR

未読、
2003/10/28 23:10:072003/10/28
To:
> they have all had battleships named after them.
>

No, that's not the "correct" answer although I can't verify whether you are
100% right with yours.
It's about something that has to do with present financial issues in these
states.

Fabian

未読、
2003/10/29 2:52:142003/10/29
To:
SR hu kiteb:

> Has nothing to do with Japan, but there are many from the US who
> might be
> surprised by the answer...
>
>
>> What do the following US states have in common?
>>
>> Kentucky
>> Vermont
>> Massachusetts
>> Illinois
>> New York
>> Minnesota
>> Michigan
>> Wisconsin
>> California
>> Iowa
>> Indiana
>> Maine
>> Ohio
>> West Virginia


Watch me not care.

fwiw, my guess is that they are all in America. What's my prize?

--
--
Fabian
Visit my website often and for long periods!
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Declan Murphy

未読、
2003/10/29 3:40:122003/10/29
To:
SR wrote:

> No, that's not the "correct" answer although I can't verify whether you are
> 100% right with yours.
> It's about something that has to do with present financial issues in these
> states.

They all have shitloads of great big fat god fearing sepponians waddling
around spending shitloads of money?

--
A hand on the bush is worth two birds on the arm.

mr.sumo snr.

未読、
2003/10/29 4:04:142003/10/29
To:
"SR" <srin...@da2.so-net.ne.jp> wrote in message
news:3f9f2...@cosmos.uncensored-news.com...

> Has nothing to do with Japan, but there are many from the US who might be
> surprised by the answer...
>
>
> > What do the following US states have in common?
> >
> > Kentucky
> > Vermont
> > Massachusetts
> > Illinois
> > New York
> > Minnesota
> > Michigan
> > Wisconsin
> > California
> > Iowa
> > Indiana
> >Maine
> >Ohio
> >West Virginia
>

They all want to join the Euro?


--
jonathan
--
"Never give yen to ducks"


Marc

未読、
2003/10/29 8:44:122003/10/29
To:

"SR" <srin...@da2.so-net.ne.jp> wrote in message
news:3f9f2...@cosmos.uncensored-news.com...
> Has nothing to do with Japan, but there are many from the US who might be
> surprised by the answer...
>
>
> > What do the following US states have in common?
> >
> > Kentucky
> > Vermont
> > Massachusetts
> > Illinois
> > New York
> > Minnesota
> > Michigan
> > Wisconsin
> > California
> > Iowa
> > Indiana
> >Maine
> >Ohio
> >West Virginia

They are all US states.

Michael Cash

未読、
2003/10/29 10:58:402003/10/29
To:
On 29 Oct 2003 02:48:29 GMT, "SR" <srin...@da2.so-net.ne.jp> belched
the alphabet and kept on going with:

>Has nothing to do with Japan, but there are many from the US who might be
>surprised by the answer...
>
>
>> What do the following US states have in common?
>>
>> Kentucky
>> Vermont
>> Massachusetts
>> Illinois
>> New York
>> Minnesota
>> Michigan
>> Wisconsin
>> California
>> Iowa
>> Indiana
>>Maine
>>Ohio
>>West Virginia

This was the puzzler on NPR's "Car Talk" recently. On the episode
which aired over AFN Tokyo last Saturday, actually. The answer is due
next Saturday, but can probably be found on the show's web site.


SR

未読、
2003/10/29 19:31:382003/10/29
To:
> This was the puzzler on NPR's "Car Talk" recently. On the episode
> which aired over AFN Tokyo last Saturday, actually. The answer is due
> next Saturday, but can probably be found on the show's web site.
>

I got it from another NG. Anyway, I love "Car Talk"! These guys are better
than any repair shop in town that would disassemble the entire vehicle
before determining that the spark plug was the culprit...
They must be very seasoned engineers who have worked on any car model on
earth.


Sigi

Chris Kern

未読、
2003/10/31 20:48:212003/10/31
To:
On 29 Oct 2003 02:48:29 GMT, "SR" <srin...@da2.so-net.ne.jp> posted
the following:

>Has nothing to do with Japan, but there are many from the US who might be
>surprised by the answer...
>
>
>> What do the following US states have in common?
>>
>> Kentucky
>> Vermont
>> Massachusetts
>> Illinois
>> New York
>> Minnesota
>> Michigan
>> Wisconsin
>> California
>> Iowa
>> Indiana
>>Maine
>>Ohio
>>West Virginia

Are they all Commonwealths? Or other non-state things (which are
still considered states)?

-Chris

SR

未読、
2003/10/31 22:40:302003/10/31
To:

"SR" <srin...@da2.so-net.ne.jp> wrote in message
news:3f9f2...@cosmos.uncensored-news.com...
> Has nothing to do with Japan, but there are many from the US who might be
> surprised by the answer...
>
>
> > What do the following US states have in common?
> >
> > Kentucky
> > Vermont
> > Massachusetts....

Sorry... since nobody has come up with the right answer, I'll have to bag
the great prize myself!

***********************************************************
Here is the answer:
The commonality is that each of these states favors legislation which
would allow its citizenry to buy prescription drugs from Canada rather
than pay exorbitant US prices.
***********************************************************


If the Canadians are able to sell drugs made by the same manufacturers
cheaper than US outlets, it's about time to do something drastic about it
(boycott, suing them, etc.). After all, these are important and essential
products which are needed (compared to rocking horses)...

Fabian

未読、
2003/10/31 22:59:162003/10/31
To:
SR was really embarrassed about writing:

> "SR" <srin...@da2.so-net.ne.jp> wrote in message
> news:3f9f2...@cosmos.uncensored-news.com...
>> Has nothing to do with Japan, but there are many from the US who
>> might be surprised by the answer...
>>
>>
>>> What do the following US states have in common?
>>>
>>> Kentucky
>>> Vermont
>>> Massachusetts....
>
> Sorry... since nobody has come up with the right answer, I'll have to
> bag
> the great prize myself!

Dammit. I was so close when I said they were all in North America too.
Who'd've thought California was actually on a differentv planet, let
alone in North America?

Kevin Wayne Williams

未読、
2003/10/31 23:12:292003/10/31
To:
SR wrote:


> The commonality is that each of these states favors legislation which
> would allow its citizenry to buy prescription drugs from Canada rather
> than pay exorbitant US prices.

Just to point out that there are at least two other interpretations,
both at least as slanted as yours:

"The commonality is that each of these states favors legislation which

would allow their citizens to deprive drug companies of their rightful
profits by participating in international smuggling rings."

"The commonality is that each of these states refuses to do its part in
subsidizing drug companies and allowing them to distribute life-saving
drugs at lower cost in third-world countries that can't afford them,
such as Canada."

Take your pick.

KWW

Jason Cormier

未読、
2003/10/31 23:28:142003/10/31
To:
On 10/31/03 23:12, in article NoGob.43075$AU.3...@nwrddc01.gnilink.net,

"Kevin Wayne Williams" <nih...@paxonet.kom> wrote:

> SR wrote:
>
>
>> The commonality is that each of these states favors legislation which
>> would allow its citizenry to buy prescription drugs from Canada rather
>> than pay exorbitant US prices.
>
> Just to point out that there are at least two other interpretations,
> both at least as slanted as yours:
>
> "The commonality is that each of these states favors legislation which
> would allow their citizens to deprive drug companies of their rightful
> profits by participating in international smuggling rings."

*snicker*

What nations like Canada prove is that the drug companies' profits are
exorbitant and can be lowered to more reasonable levels through single
marker purchasers. (i.e. The respective provinces' health insurance plans.)
I guess some people are willing to parrot the propaganda of the drug
companies. I hope these people received a large donation from the big
pharmaceutical companies for their efforts like the politicians currently
slamming the cheaper price of drugs north of the border.

The threats of these companies, and politicians such as Bloomberg in New
York City, are laughable. Watch how quick their patents are pulled (and the
ridiculous patent extensions that amount to nothing more than a name change
and a claim to help a slightly different ailment) to allow the generic
manufacturers earlier access to the Canadian market if the companies try to
stop sales to Canada to force them to do their dirty work.

Eric Takabayashi

未読、
2003/10/31 23:27:442003/10/31
To:
SR wrote:

> "SR" <srin...@da2.so-net.ne.jp> wrote in message
> news:3f9f2...@cosmos.uncensored-news.com...
> > Has nothing to do with Japan, but there are many from the US who might be
> > surprised by the answer...

Why? In the Southwest, many buy drugs from Mexico, or actually go across the border themselves,
for the same reason. People even try to make and sell their own remedies for conditions as
serious as cancer or full blown AIDS.

> > > What do the following US states have in common?
> > >
> > > Kentucky
> > > Vermont
> > > Massachusetts....
>
> Sorry... since nobody has come up with the right answer, I'll have to bag
> the great prize myself!
>
> ***********************************************************
> Here is the answer:
> The commonality is that each of these states favors legislation which
> would allow its citizenry to buy prescription drugs from Canada rather
> than pay exorbitant US prices.
> ***********************************************************
>
> If the Canadians are able to sell drugs made by the same manufacturers
> cheaper than US outlets, it's about time to do something drastic about it
> (boycott, suing them, etc.). After all, these are important and essential
> products which are needed (compared to rocking horses)...

Do the majority of Canadians not find gasoline to be more important or essential?

The same can be said of any commodity with "home" and "abroad" pricing schemes, companies which
practice price gouging or dumping, or countries which manipulate the strength of their currency
or have subsidies, tariffs or taxes.

Kevin Wayne Williams

未読、
2003/10/31 23:33:552003/10/31
To:
Jason Cormier wrote:

> On 10/31/03 23:12, in article NoGob.43075$AU.3...@nwrddc01.gnilink.net,
> "Kevin Wayne Williams" <nih...@paxonet.kom> wrote:
>
>
>>SR wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>The commonality is that each of these states favors legislation which
>>>would allow its citizenry to buy prescription drugs from Canada rather
>>>than pay exorbitant US prices.
>>
>>Just to point out that there are at least two other interpretations,
>>both at least as slanted as yours:
>>
>>"The commonality is that each of these states favors legislation which
>>would allow their citizens to deprive drug companies of their rightful
>>profits by participating in international smuggling rings."
>
>
> *snicker*
>

What part of "at least as slanted as yours" causes comprehension
difficulty, Jason?
KWW

Michael Cash

未読、
2003/11/01 7:07:162003/11/01
To:
On 30 Oct 2003 00:31:38 GMT, "SR" <srin...@da2.so-net.ne.jp> belched

the alphabet and kept on going with:

>> This was the puzzler on NPR's "Car Talk" recently. On the episode


>> which aired over AFN Tokyo last Saturday, actually. The answer is due
>> next Saturday, but can probably be found on the show's web site.
>>
>
>I got it from another NG. Anyway, I love "Car Talk"! These guys are better
>than any repair shop in town that would disassemble the entire vehicle
>before determining that the spark plug was the culprit...
>They must be very seasoned engineers who have worked on any car model on
>earth.

It turns out I was wrong. The last puzzler was a list, but not the
list you mentioned.

The great thing about the guys on Car Talk is that they make the show
interesting even for people who know nothing about cars and who don't
even care anything about cars.


Jason Cormier

未読、
2003/11/01 12:12:492003/11/01
To:
On 10/31/03 23:33, in article TIGob.43300$AU.3...@nwrddc01.gnilink.net,

I don't know; what made you think this was directed specifically at you?

Marc

未読、
2003/11/02 23:25:362003/11/02
To:

"SR" <srin...@da2.so-net.ne.jp> wrote in message
news:3fa05bea$1...@cosmos.uncensored-news.com...

> > This was the puzzler on NPR's "Car Talk" recently. On the episode
> > which aired over AFN Tokyo last Saturday, actually. The answer is due
> > next Saturday, but can probably be found on the show's web site.
> >
>
> I got it from another NG. Anyway, I love "Car Talk"! These guys are better
> than any repair shop in town that would disassemble the entire vehicle
> before determining that the spark plug was the culprit...
> They must be very seasoned engineers who have worked on any car model on
> earth.

I remember the car talk guys from before they had a radio show. They had a
do-it-yourself garage in Cambridge, Mass (our fair city) where you could go
and work on your own car. Had to close it down I think because of insurance
problems. Shortly after that they appeared on local public radio. Eventually
they cut their own deal and became a mini-corporation. They are kind of
typical of the kind of hybrid that you saw a lot of in Cambridge in the 70s;
guys who had a higher education (they studied at MIT) but who chose to work
in some local small business. You can find all sorts of people around
Cambridge doing pottery, woodworking, bakery, paint store etc. but who have
degrees from Harvard or MIT.

They are pretty funny too.

Marc

未読、
2003/11/02 23:39:072003/11/02
To:

"SR" <srin...@da2.so-net.ne.jp> wrote in message
news:3fa32b2e$1...@cosmos.uncensored-news.com...

>
> "SR" <srin...@da2.so-net.ne.jp> wrote in message
> news:3f9f2...@cosmos.uncensored-news.com...
> > Has nothing to do with Japan, but there are many from the US who might
be
> > surprised by the answer...
> >
> >
> > > What do the following US states have in common?
> > >
> > > Kentucky
> > > Vermont
> > > Massachusetts....
>
> Sorry... since nobody has come up with the right answer, I'll have to bag
> the great prize myself!
>
> ***********************************************************
> Here is the answer:
> The commonality is that each of these states favors legislation which
> would allow its citizenry to buy prescription drugs from Canada rather
> than pay exorbitant US prices.
> ***********************************************************
>
>
> If the Canadians are able to sell drugs made by the same manufacturers
> cheaper than US outlets, it's about time to do something drastic about it
> (boycott, suing them, etc.). After all, these are important and essential
> products which are needed (compared to rocking horses)...

I don't know the reason the prices are higher in the US. But as someone who
works for a pharmaceutical company, let me say that there is a lot of
misunderstanding about drug costs. The fact that something is important and
essential does not mean that it should therefore be made cheap to people who
need it. Drugs are extremely expensive to develop, due to two things; 1)
most drugs fail before they ever get to market. It is not uncommon to spend
millions of dollars on a drug that doesn't make it. I think the success rate
from the time a drug enters clinical trials to the time it is approved is
about 10%. This means that the one that makes it has to pay the development
costs of the 9 that do not. 2) all drugs need to spend 2-3 years in
preclinical testing, especially toxicology, followed by 3 - 5 years in
clinical trials. This is to ensure that the drug does not make people sick.
But even then sometimes it still will, in which case the drug company can be
on the hook for millions in lawsuits.

It is cheap for a company to knock off a drug, that is to just reverse
engineer the formula and make it. This happens all the time in India and
China. It can be sold cheap because someone else has paid for the
development costs.

This came up a lot in the debate about AIDS drugs. In the 1980s, drug
companies were criticized for "not caring" enough about AIDS to develop a
drug. Well, eventually drug companies suceeded, after spending hundreds of
millions of dollars. Then the public turned around and said "the drugs are
too expensive, you should make them cheap". In essence this is saying "OK
spend millions to develop a drug, and then on yeah .... now you pay for it."

I think that if drug companies are supposed to develop drugs they should be
paid for it. Financing the cost of this development is not the
responsibility of the pople who make the discoveries. It is the
responsibility of the society that says it needs these drugs because they
are "important and essential" products.

Having said that, I really have no idea why the drugs are cheaper in one
country than another.

-Marc


Rafael Caetano

未読、
2003/11/04 8:43:582003/11/04
To:
"SR" <srin...@da2.so-net.ne.jp> wrote in message news:<3fa32b2e$1...@cosmos.uncensored-news.com>...
(...)

> ***********************************************************
> Here is the answer:
> The commonality is that each of these states favors
> legislation which
> would allow its citizenry to buy prescription drugs
> from Canada rather
> than pay exorbitant US prices.
> ***********************************************************

Strange. Recently I read that a _federal_ law has passed allowing
Americans to buy reimported drugs. Is it that states can pass laws
forbidding it? Even if they can, why do the listed states need such
legislation _allowing_ it?

Rafael Caetano

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