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Japanese only IBM thinkpad - running EnglishOS

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obakesan

未読、
2003/09/22 21:34:552003/09/22
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HiYa

I'm thinking of getting a IBM s30, but not sure on how it'll cope with booting
from a PCMCIA CD-ROM. Anyone out there have one of these and know if the bios
will cope with it?


See Ya
(when bandwidth gets better ;-)

Chris Eastwood

we tend to blame others for our problems
I think this is something we inherit from our parents

please remove undies for reply

mr.sumo snr.

未読、
2003/09/23 4:06:062003/09/23
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"obakesan" <cjundie...@powerup.com.au> wrote in message
news:bko80p$cbf$1...@kraken.itc.gu.edu.au...

> HiYa
>
> I'm thinking of getting a IBM s30, but not sure on how it'll cope with
booting
> from a PCMCIA CD-ROM. Anyone out there have one of these and know if the
bios
> will cope with it?
>

Couldn't actually find an IBM s30 at either the Japanese or US website - so
I presume you meant the x30 or something like that. Anyway, I guess you'll
talking about a slim notebook that doesn't come with a cd-rom drive
included.

I have one of the Sony C1 picturebooks, which of course don't have cd-rom
drive. In the handbook it stated that the device would only 'PCMCIA' boot
from a dedicated Sony external cd-rom, which I duly bought, and yes it does!
So you can use the supply recovery discs ONLY if you also buy a Sony-budged
PCMCIA cd-rom drive - great marketing strategy! I don't know if it will
'boot' from any other branded external drives - I have a very old Pioneer
external drive but it wouldn't read that upon boot-up, only when within
Windows.

So I guess you could probably effect a similar solution by buying an IBM
branded external drive. But if that's the case then you might as well buy
the docking station instead. I'm assuming that perhaps you want to totally
wipe the Japanese partition and install English Windows only.

--
jonathan
--
"Never select "show hidden folders" with someone looking over your shoulder"


cc

未読、
2003/09/23 10:33:162003/09/23
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"mr.sumo snr." <mr_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

Hi Sensei,

No relation with that thread, but my USB plugs are still sleeping : I had
"service pack 1" since the beggining, and downloaded a "service pack 2"
without result. There is really something weird.

CC

mr.sumo snr.

未読、
2003/09/23 13:09:542003/09/23
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"cc" <cpasune...@spam.com> wrote in message
news:bkpljf$r0p$1...@bgsv5647.tk.mesh.ad.jp...

>
> "mr.sumo snr." <mr_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> Hi Sensei,
>
> No relation with that thread, but my USB plugs are still sleeping : I had
> "service pack 1" since the beginning, and downloaded a "service pack 2"

> without result. There is really something weird.
>

I presume that you read my post that included the url for your motherboard's
homepage. Did you try any of the downloads available there?

Otherwise I'm pretty much stumped. Your motherboard is one of the rarer
devices I've seen. Something a bit more mainstream - Gigabyte (personal
favorite), Asus, MSI - would have its own newsgroup where such problems
could be solved. It's another 3500 yen but you could just opt for a PCI USB
2.0 card solution.

--
jonathan

obakesan

未読、
2003/09/23 19:43:422003/09/23
To:
HiYa

In article <bkoutj$3vj7p$1...@ID-141600.news.uni-berlin.de>, "mr.sumo snr."

<mr_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>"obakesan" <cjundie...@powerup.com.au> wrote in message
>news:bko80p$cbf$1...@kraken.itc.gu.edu.au...
>> HiYa
>>
>> I'm thinking of getting a IBM s30, but not sure on how it'll cope with
>booting
>> from a PCMCIA CD-ROM. Anyone out there have one of these and know if the
>bios
>> will cope with it?
>>
>
>Couldn't actually find an IBM s30 at either the Japanese or US website - so
>I presume you meant the x30 or something like that. Anyway, I guess you'll
>talking about a slim notebook that doesn't come with a cd-rom drive

I mean the s30, they came out about mid 2001 IIRC, if you go to product
information under support, you can select it from the downloads

here is a link

http://www-3.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-4X2GYN

they really are a sweet looking laptop, and when they came out, were quite
a neat portable with the speedstep cpu had outstanding battery life too


>included.
>
>I have one of the Sony C1 picturebooks, which of course don't have cd-rom
>drive. In the handbook it stated that the device would only 'PCMCIA' boot
>from a dedicated Sony external cd-rom, which I duly bought, and yes it does!
>So you can use the supply recovery discs ONLY if you also buy a Sony-budged
>PCMCIA cd-rom drive - great marketing strategy! I don't know if it will
>'boot' from any other branded external drives - I have a very old Pioneer
>external drive but it wouldn't read that upon boot-up, only when within
>Windows.
>
>So I guess you could probably effect a similar solution by buying an IBM
>branded external drive. But if that's the case then you might as well buy
>the docking station instead. I'm assuming that perhaps you want to totally
>wipe the Japanese partition and install English Windows only.


ok, but I think the IBM drive, is USB not sure if that'll boot from a usb
device ... and yep, I wanna wipe the partition totally and start again with
my disks :-)

who knows, may even wish to ferret about with Linux on it ...

cc

未読、
2003/09/24 5:35:082003/09/24
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"mr.sumo snr." <mr_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> I presume that you read my post that included the url for your
motherboard's
> homepage.

Yes, thank you.

> Did you try any of the downloads available there?

Yes...Well, I've installed directly. I don't understand what you mean about
the device manager, mine is just a list of the parts of the computer and I
can't install from there, I've opened all the boxes and I can't change a
iota.
The weird thing is according to the help file and everything I read, there
should be a line about USB in that device -even if the content is empty-
and there is nothing. Several times I tried to install drivers and that
failed saying it couldn't find that line. Maybe I've done a mistake when I
installed and erased that line.

I should format and reinstall everything again. As that worked before, I 'll
try to change the BIOS and make it use the USB CD as primary master, so
maybe it would keep the USB active,
But I'm discouraged. Maybe tomorrow...

> Otherwise I'm pretty much stumped. Your motherboard is one of the rarer
> devices I've seen. Something a bit more mainstream - Gigabyte (personal
> favorite), Asus, MSI - would have its own newsgroup where such problems
> could be solved.

I tried to buy the more mainstream model in the world : I took the only
brand of barebone sold in normal shops, because I hesitated to buy it from
places that would run out of business before I have time to install the
machine.
In fact, the shop where they had explained me how to do has disappeared
(replaced by a second-hand manga shop) before I could buy anything there.

>It's another 3500 yen
> but you could just opt for a PCI USB
> 2.0 card solution.

My old PCI card is not compatible with XP (never used it because USB2.0
didn't work with win 98 or vice-versa) and the update page no longer exists.
Idem for the scanner and the TA and I didn't check yet the digicam.
So let's get a new PCI USB 2.0 card...I can start a collection.

I start thinking that with another 350 000 yen I'd rebuy everything new and
ready to use !

CC

mr.sumo snr.

未読、
2003/09/24 14:24:012003/09/24
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"cc" <cpasune...@spam.com> wrote in message
news:bkrohg$5rg$1...@bgsv5648.tk.mesh.ad.jp...

>
> >It's another 3500 yen
> > but you could just opt for a PCI USB
> > 2.0 card solution.
>
> My old PCI card is not compatible with XP (never used it because USB2.0
> didn't work with win 98 or vice-versa) and the update page no longer
exists.
> Idem for the scanner and the TA and I didn't check yet the digicam.
> So let's get a new PCI USB 2.0 card...I can start a collection.
>
> I start thinking that with another 350 000 yen I'd rebuy everything new
and
> ready to use !

OK. Buy Buffalo or Corega or IODATA stuff. None of those manufacturers
will be going out of business anytime soon - plus they're download sites are
comprehensive to say the least.

--
jonathan
--
"Never give a gun to ducks"


mr.sumo snr.

未読、
2003/09/24 14:44:222003/09/24
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"obakesan" <cjundie...@powerup.com.au> wrote in message
news:bkqlsb$fk8$1...@kraken.itc.gu.edu.au...

>
>
> ok, but I think the IBM drive, is USB not sure if that'll boot from a usb
> device ... and yep, I wanna wipe the partition totally and start again
with
> my disks :-)
>
> who knows, may even wish to ferret about with Linux on it ...
> >

Something here http://tinyurl.com/oj9d about this IBM USB cd-drive being
bootable - perhaps someone else would kindly provide an accurate
translation.

BTW - nice looking notebook.

--
jonathan


Graham Bell

未読、
2003/09/25 8:43:112003/09/25
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obakesan wrote:

I've had an S30 for some time..

As far as booting from a PCMCIA CDROM, I don't think it will do it. I
know it won't boot from my PCMCIA DVD-ROM. However, maybe a genuine IBM
one will do something special.
It does boot from a USB port device like a floppy drive, though. I've
used this on mine several times.

In the BIOS there is a CDROM entry in the boot device order list, but I
suspect it may only apply to a USB CDROM. It definitely doesn't boot
with my Pioneer PCMCIA DVD-ROM..

In any case, as long as you have a USB floppy drive, you can boot up ok.
Even for an OS reinstall, you just need to create boot floppies first.

Graham

obakesan

未読、
2003/09/25 20:51:432003/09/25
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In article <upBcb.63$88....@newsall.dti.ne.jp>, Graham Bell <grab...@netscape.net.dumb.spam> wrote:

>I've had an S30 for some time..


kool ... I'll pop you an email at the netscape addy

thanks for that!

>
>As far as booting from a PCMCIA CDROM, I don't think it will do it. I
>know it won't boot from my PCMCIA DVD-ROM. However, maybe a genuine IBM
>one will do something special.
>It does boot from a USB port device like a floppy drive, though. I've
>used this on mine several times.
>
>In the BIOS there is a CDROM entry in the boot device order list, but I
>suspect it may only apply to a USB CDROM. It definitely doesn't boot
>with my Pioneer PCMCIA DVD-ROM..
>
>In any case, as long as you have a USB floppy drive, you can boot up ok.
> Even for an OS reinstall, you just need to create boot floppies first.
>
>Graham
>

See Ya

cc

未読、
2003/09/26 10:16:172003/09/26
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"mr.sumo snr." <mr_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> OK. Buy Buffalo or Corega or IODATA stuff. None of those manufacturers


> will be going out of business anytime soon - plus they're download sites
are
> comprehensive to say the least.

OK, thanks.

CC

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