Faegs.
Brian
Good ones (those who practice martial arts) can't fight. Strict laws
consider their fight to be more deadly (and for a good reason) thus charges
applicable on them are more severe.
Brian
I have watched a pretty large Kansai guy, a pro-boxer waited and accepted a
few punches from a little irish, who were too drunk. He than called the
police. That guy could have f*ck Danny Boy's shit up but he didn't.
So the answer to your question is yes.
Brian
I don't like cops very much myself either. But I believe what he did was
fairly civilized. By the way, how old are you?
>> But what kind of man is he if he laughs it off and calls the pigs?
>> Why didn't he just laugh it off and leave it alone.
>> To pass on the fight and call the pigs seems a bit.....swishy,right?
>> I see if he didn't want to be bothered with beating up a much smaller guy
>> but to call John Law?
>> Fairly cuntish behavior,huh?
>>
>
> I don't like cops very much myself either. But I believe what he did was
> fairly civilized. By the way, how old are you?
Haluk just got punk'd.
38.You?
Brian
>"Dick Muhfukkin Bagswing" <la...@my.nuts.wouldja?>, haber iletisinde ?unlar?
>yazd?:bkhgmu$9sa$1...@nn-tk106.ocn.ad.jp...
>> Are they really all such weak fighters??
>> I've seen better punchups in nursing home parking lots back home.
>>
>> Faegs.
>
>Good ones (those who practice martial arts) can't fight. Strict laws
>consider their fight to be more deadly (and for a good reason) thus charges
>applicable on them are more severe.
Could you cite the relevant statute please?
It USED to be that in some states in the Hew Ess Ay a black belt was considered
a "deadly weapon" for legal purposes. No longer, to my knowledge.
Mike
>> Good ones (those who practice martial arts) can't fight. Strict laws
>> consider their fight to be more deadly (and for a good reason) thus
> charges
>> applicable on them are more severe.
>>
> Please. If you were a serious martial artist and someone hauled off and
> busted you would you not hit them back hard enough to make them want to
> stop?
Nope. Only such fights I've been in, as soon as you do ANYthing, your opponent
(like the two you describe) pretty much disintegrate.
Street fights are often (as you noted) overrated.
BTW, if you think Dan Severn is tough, you shoulda seen Mark Schultz. Severn's
actually a nice guy; Mark isn't.
Mike
Met Severn about 4 years ago. He was a sweetheart. Never heard of Schultz
before. Have to look him up.
Brian
Brian
>> BTW, if you think Dan Severn is tough, you shoulda seen Mark Schultz.
> Severn's
>> actually a nice guy; Mark isn't.
> Met Severn about 4 years ago. He was a sweetheart. Never heard of Schultz
> before. Have to look him up.
Never heard of the Schultzes???? His brother Dave was the one who got killed
by Dupont.
Olympic champs, World Game champs, and mean as two snakes.
From Mark's resume at http://markschultz.com/resume.htm
" Mark Schultz was the only 1984 Olympic Champion to win the 1985 World
Championships and Dave Schultz was the only 1984 Olympic Champion to
win the 1983 World Championships. An extra official had to be assigned
to watch Mark and Dave through the 1984 Olympics when in back to back
matches Mark broke the Turk's arm who was ranked #1 in the world and was
disqualified from the match for excessive brutality, and Dave injured
the Yugoslav's knee so bad he pinned himself."
As a former (UCLA) teammate of the Schultzes, I can say one extra ref was
inadequate.
Mike
I do.
> Saw him fight in the ufc but don't remember that fight.
He was forced to quit UFC to keep his job as BYU's wrestling coach.
Mike
Brian
>Michael Cash <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> wrote:
>> Could you cite the relevant statute please?
>
>It USED to be that in some states in the Hew Ess Ay a black belt was considered
>a "deadly weapon" for legal purposes. No longer, to my knowledge.
Sounds like an urban legend to me.
-Chris
30
Same here. Like what you'd hear your buddies say after going to see a Billy
Jack dusk til dawn extravaganza at the drive in.
Brian
Define punk please
>"Dick Muhfukkin Bagswing" <la...@my.nuts.wouldja?>, haber iletisinde ?unlar?
>yazd?:bkilm3$l52$1...@nn-tk103.ocn.ad.jp...
>>
>> By the way, how old are you?
>>
>>
>> 38.You?
>>
>> Brian
>>
>
>30
>
So who wins?
>On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 04:39:30 +0000 (UTC), mtfe...@MAPSON.netscape.net
Me too. That's why I asked for a cite. And since we're talking about
Japan (how unusual!), a reference to a Japanese statute would be nice.
Brian
In Hawaii, a bodybuilder was prosecuted for killing a man outside a club in Waikiki
frequented by gays, with a punch to the throat or head. His strength was called a
deadly weapon.
In a separate Honolulu incident, a man with a fifth degree black belt in Hapkido
kicked a man in the chest, killing him. His martial arts mastery was also called a
deadly weapon.
It is not "a" law, but as Professor Michael Steenson, J.D., fourth dan in Tae Kwon
Do, writes,
"In some jurisdictions, it is possible that a person's hands and feet may be
considered a deadly weapon. If so, criminal conduct will be aggravated. In other
words, it becomes a more serious offense. It is a more serious criminal offense to
attack someone with a weapon rather than with bare hands. If a weapon is involved
the criminal assault may be deemed to be an aggravated criminal assault. Because the
crime is more serious, the criminal penalty is also more serious."
"If you assault against another person, without justification, you may be subject to
a civil action or criminal prosecution. Involvement in either is highly unpleasant.
If you are forced to defend yourself, you may still be subject to civil or criminal
actions."
I's just curious.
My father in law from Karate Fed. of Japan has told me this. The man has 8
dans, and he cracked 3 ribs while stretching before his morning exercise. So
I took his word for it. But if he says so, it must be true.
>"Michael Cash" <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp>, haber iletisinde sunlari
>yazdi:m5rpmvo1pfqcaj97b...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 16:44:06 +0300, "Haluk" <yokoo...@spam.net>
>> belched the alphabet and kept on going with:
>>
>> >"Dick Muhfukkin Bagswing" <la...@my.nuts.wouldja?>, haber iletisinde
>?unlar?
>> >yazd?:bkhgmu$9sa$1...@nn-tk106.ocn.ad.jp...
>> >> Are they really all such weak fighters??
>> >> I've seen better punchups in nursing home parking lots back home.
>> >>
>> >> Faegs.
>> >
>> >Good ones (those who practice martial arts) can't fight. Strict laws
>> >consider their fight to be more deadly (and for a good reason) thus
>charges
>> >applicable on them are more severe.
>>
>> Could you cite the relevant statute please?
>
>My father in law from Karate Fed. of Japan has told me this. The man has 8
>dans, and he cracked 3 ribs while stretching before his morning exercise. So
>I took his word for it. But if he says so, it must be true.
While in university, I met a young woman who swore up and down that
the Japanese make salad dressing out of snake piss. She picked up this
nugget from her father. She assured me that since her father said it,
it must be true.
Brian
Aside from being my in law, the man is in Karate Federation for god's sake.
So the fact he's being my in law nulls his expert opinion?
No, my snake piss anecdote was really sort of a tangent.
I pointed out to her, though, that just because her father wouldn't
lie to her didn't mean that other people wouldn't lie to her father.
This is the very nature of how Urban Legends get started, isn't it?
Both her father and your father-in-law may believe they are telling
the absolute gospel truth. While common sense tells us her father was
full of shit, yet trying to prove it is a futile task. In the other
case, however, all it takes is a citation of which of these strict
laws is applicable. Your father-in-law may be spreading gospel, or he
may be spreading an Urban Legend. But since his assertion is based on
the Japanese penal code, it should be very easy to confirm.
.
> This is one of several street fights that I have seen in three years.
> Are they really all such weak fighters??
I've work with tall *strong* gaigins that spent weeks at hospital after
getting involved in fights with *weak* local *faegs*.
Maybe some of them were just beaten by their Japanese wives or their kids
and told the street fight thing to keep the face.
CC
>. Your father-in-law may be spreading gospel, or he
> may be spreading an Urban Legend. But since his assertion is based on
> the Japanese penal code, it should be very easy to confirm.
No, even if it's not explicitly written in the penal code, that does not
mean the judges don't take the capacity in fighting sports -or others- into
account.
The same way that in case there is a strange accident/incident cause by a
car, they wouldn't judge Mike Cash (professional driver) and me (100% paper
driver, I haven't driven 100 metres since I had my license) the same way. I
can try to say I didn't know where was the break, they'll wonder if that's
possible. Say the same thing, they'll consider you are making fun of
justice. ?
If I kill a guy by kicking him in a fight, and if a kick-boxing expert
kills a guy the same way. I can try to say I didn't know the kick would be
so strong, etc. What can the champion say ?
Can you show anything that proves the expert fighters are not more easily or
heavily condemened than others in case of fights that cause death ?
In addition, if you kill someone with your car, on a week-end when you are
drunk, can't that also affect your job ? I mean, it's not possible they
cancel your truck license for an accident caused with your car ? (to say
nothing about what your employer would do if you kept your license but had
your photo on the first page of the newspaper...)?
Well, for members of fighting sport federations, their license can be
cancelled for a street fight, even a minor one. And if they do competition
or teaching for a living, they'll have to find another job. If they expect
getting a job as a cop in the future, that can also have consequences.
I don't see what is an urban legend here.
CC
> I don't see what is an urban legend here.
Being an urban legend refers to its nature, not its truthfulness or
untruthfulness. See
for any number of true urban legends, mislabeled urban "myths" by people of
some countries.
Be sure that though there may not be "a" law regarding the legality of use of
martial artists' skills, there are professionals and bodies devoted to martial
arts in law, and other pages which concern themselves with liability in an
altercation. If people cared, they might consult such as
http://www.karatelaw.com/index.html
http://www.ittendojo.org/articles/general-4.htm
http://www.mntaekwondocenter.com/resources/tkd-and-the-law.html
The first and third men are professors, and the second is a prosecuting
attorney, all masters or instructors in Asian martial arts..
http://www.tafkac.org/faq2k/legal_2007.html
from another urban legends site, has cites to conclude "Documented: A criminal
defendant's experience in boxing or the martial arts may be relevant to
deciding whether the elements of a criminal offense have been proven."
>
>"Michael Cash" <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> wrote in message
>
>
>>. Your father-in-law may be spreading gospel, or he
>> may be spreading an Urban Legend. But since his assertion is based on
>> the Japanese penal code, it should be very easy to confirm.
>
>No, even if it's not explicitly written in the penal code, that does not
>mean the judges don't take the capacity in fighting sports -or others- into
>account.
I don't dispute that at all. But my request for a citation of (a)
specific statute(s) was based on an assertion that there are "strict
laws" regarding this. That's an entirely different matter.
>The same way that in case there is a strange accident/incident cause by a
>car, they wouldn't judge Mike Cash (professional driver) and me (100% paper
>driver, I haven't driven 100 metres since I had my license) the same way.
Are you aware that under Japanese law even non-professional drivers
are normally charged with "professional negligence" in traffic
accidents? Just having that license automatically raises you to a
higher standard. Of course, how individual judges view cases and the
relative standard to which actual professional drivers and
non-professional drivers are held probably varies.
>I
>can try to say I didn't know where was the break, they'll wonder if that's
>possible. Say the same thing, they'll consider you are making fun of
>justice. ?
> If I kill a guy by kicking him in a fight, and if a kick-boxing expert
>kills a guy the same way. I can try to say I didn't know the kick would be
>so strong, etc. What can the champion say ?
>
>Can you show anything that proves the expert fighters are not more easily or
>heavily condemened than others in case of fights that cause death ?
No, I can't. But I was not the one making that assertion, so I don't
see that there is any burden on me to show anything either way. I just
asked for the specific section of the penal code which was alluded to
by someone else. I make no assertion as to whether such a statute
exists or doesn't exist.
>
>In addition, if you kill someone with your car, on a week-end when you are
>drunk, can't that also affect your job ?
Yes, the Chiba Traffic Prison is too far from my home in Gunma to
allow for commuting to work.
>I mean, it's not possible they
>cancel your truck license for an accident caused with your car ? (to say
>nothing about what your employer would do if you kept your license but had
>your photo on the first page of the newspaper...)?
>Well, for members of fighting sport federations, their license can be
>cancelled for a street fight, even a minor one. And if they do competition
>or teaching for a living, they'll have to find another job. If they expect
>getting a job as a cop in the future, that can also have consequences.
>I don't see what is an urban legend here.
Do you know what an Urban Legend is?
Really,how many weeks?
Hey,I was talking about the few fights that I have seen since I have been
here. And they have all been very weak and not so well fought. I know there
are badasses here but what my original post was asking was where are they?
Every fight I have seen in three years has been a poor excuse for gay porn.
And before you get any ideas and want to say something like,"Well why don't
you go fight, Mr. Tough Guy?!?" I am not declaring myself a tough guy just
making an obxervation. And again my observation is this,every goddamn fight
I have seen since I have been here has been a laughable mess.
Brian
>> I've work with tall *strong* gaigins that spent weeks at hospital after
>> getting involved in fights with *weak* local *faegs*.
>> Maybe some of them were just beaten by their Japanese wives or their kids
>> and told the street fight thing to keep the face.
> Hey,I was talking about the few fights that I have seen since I have been
> here. And they have all been very weak and not so well fought. I know there
> are badasses here but what my original post was asking was where are they?
> Every fight I have seen in three years has been a poor excuse for gay porn.
Hmmm, when I was an undergrad at Texas Tech, there was a single gay bar
in Lubbock. We used to head over to the parking lot at about 1:30 and
watch the local sh*tkickers pick fights with "them faggots".
It's educational how fast and hard some of these cowboys hit the ground...
> And before you get any ideas and want to say something like,"Well why don't
> you go fight, Mr. Tough Guy?!?" I am not declaring myself a tough guy just
> making an obxervation. And again my observation is this,every goddamn fight
> I have seen since I have been here has been a laughable mess.
Yep. Other thing I noticed is that the loser will go away, but not quietly;
saw a guy streaming blood from his nose retreating rapidly and mouthing off.
Odd.
Mike
NOW you tell me! (Retch, retch, retch.)
--
_______________________________________________________________
Scott Reynolds s...@gol.com
It's a pretty difficult process, though. The hardest part is finding their
little willies to get the piss from. And then of course there is the
practice of shoving little hoses down their throats to pump in water, which
has pushed some of the international animal protection groups to call for a
ban.
Now, however, the market is being flooded by cheap imported Chinese snake
piss, and a lot of the traditional Japanese snake-piss producers are in
danger of going under. As an emergency measure, the Japanese government has
implemented an "inspection fee" on imported snake piss valued at 500% the
customs value, and the Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries is
conducting a "Heartful IT Campaign for Japanese Snake Piss" aimed at raising
awareness of Japanese snake piss and gaining the understanding of the
Japanese people, etc.
--
Regards,
Ryan Ginstrom
> It's a pretty difficult process, though. The hardest part is finding
their
> little willies to get the piss from. And then of course there is the
> practice of shoving little hoses down their throats to pump in water,
which
> has pushed some of the international animal protection groups to call
for a
> ban.
>
> Now, however, the market is being flooded by cheap imported Chinese
snake
> piss, and a lot of the traditional Japanese snake-piss producers are
in
> danger of going under. As an emergency measure, the Japanese
government has
> implemented an "inspection fee" on imported snake piss valued at 500%
the
> customs value, and the Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries
is
> conducting a "Heartful IT Campaign for Japanese Snake Piss" aimed at
raising
> awareness of Japanese snake piss and gaining the understanding of the
> Japanese people, etc.
You're taking the piss aren't you?
--
--
Fabian
Humans have to stop treating each other like they treat us ants. Think
about it. If we build, say, a pair of very tall structures, like two
anthills side-by-side, some stupid human swoops in out of nowhere and
knocks them down. Or humans will drop food on the ground near us. we
think it's for us, but those same humans will also try to kill us! I
have no sense of irony, I'm just an ant. But if I did, I'm sure I'd
notice that.
I think I just about pissed myself laughing.
--
The 2-Belo
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> I know there
> are badasses here but what my original post was asking was where are they?
Teenagers have some decent fights. There have been professional boxers who got
their start as street punks.
> Every fight I have seen in three years has been a poor excuse for gay porn.
The average people don't get to see the good street fights, and less likely to
see the gang activities or battles. I would pay money to have seen how a
former student of mine of Korean descent with black belts in Shorinji Kenpo
and judo (who competed on the national level in judo the unlimited class, and
also sumo, despite being no larger than I am, about 170 cm and 60kg, and the
school having NO sumo club) singlehandedly got rid of six punks who attacked
him on the way home, who had previously harassed him since elementary school.
He did not get into any trouble with the police, BTW, nor was there reason for
the school to discipline him, nor was the gang who had harassed him for years,
and attacked him on the way from home one last time, punished in any way
beyond perhaps a talking to.
> And before you get any ideas and want to say something like,"Well why don't
> you go fight, Mr. Tough Guy?!?"
It does not seem to take much to put down drunken Japanese men. Even junior
high school aged children do it, to steal their money, or beat up and
sometimes kill homeless people for fun.
It's amazing the stuff that brings you out of lurking these days.
> Being an urban legend refers to its nature, not its truthfulness or
> untruthfulness. See
>
> http://www.snopes.com
>
> for any number of true urban legends, mislabeled urban "myths" by people
of
> some countries.
Oh, I see.
For Americans, Urban Legend =anything anybody says without giving imediatly
an URL to prove it.
That snopes link is a collection of anything and everything. They include
puns (and they managed to mispell the one about Napoleon tout the point I
wouldn't have got it without the English explanation), verified facts that
were published in media, etc.
Well I made a mistake, I assumed "urban legend" had the same meaning as
"mythe urbain" in French. That's completely different. A "mythe urbain" is a
false (invented) but possible story, whose author is unknown, and that you
hear from different unrelated persons.
CC
> Do you know what an Urban Legend is?
Well no...I've confused with something else.
CC
>
>"Michael Cash" <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> wrote in message
>
>> Do you know what an Urban Legend is?
>
>Well no...I've confused with something else.
Rats. I was hoping you knew (so you could tell me).
> "Jason Cormier" <fj...@hotmail.com>, haber iletisinde sunlari
> yazdi:BB923985.60C7D%fj...@hotmail.com...
>> On 9/20/03 10:26, in article bkho2k$1udi9$1...@ID-201738.news.uni-berlin.de,
>> "Haluk" <yokoo...@spam.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> But what kind of man is he if he laughs it off and calls the pigs?
>>>> Why didn't he just laugh it off and leave it alone.
>>>> To pass on the fight and call the pigs seems a bit.....swishy,right?
>>>> I see if he didn't want to be bothered with beating up a much smaller
> guy
>>>> but to call John Law?
>>>> Fairly cuntish behavior,huh?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't like cops very much myself either. But I believe what he did was
>>> fairly civilized. By the way, how old are you?
>>
>> Haluk just got punk'd.
>>
>
> Define punk please
The correct term is "punk'd" and has little to do with the word you want
defined. You got taken in by a rather obvious ruse.
>> Could you cite the relevant statute please?
>
> My father in law from Karate Fed. of Japan has told me this.
Kind of like Dave and his father-in-law trucker? Michael, perhaps you could
provide the google link?
My observation on the drunken slappy fights both in Japan and the US
is they are done by 2 very drunk people who think they`re invincible.
Most of the time after the first slap is thrown they realize - hey
that stung and the fight turns into a girly hair pulling contest.
The reason you don`t see more "badasses" fighting is after one punch
bloodies up the drunk realizes "hey I screwed up big time - this hurts
and is going to hurt a lot worse" and fold like a card house.
Yep. Pretty much. And after this I am done with this faggy fuckin thread.
Now everybody please fuck off.
Brian
Apparently it wasn't so obvious for me :)
A faggy fuckin thread can only be a faggy as its initiator.
> Now everybody please fuck off.
Much oblidged.
--
"Kick it to the shithouse" - Bob Dwyer, Saturday 2nd November, 1991.
"Dick Muhfukkin Bagswing" <la...@my.nuts.wouldja?> wrote in message
news:bkhgmu$9sa$1...@nn-tk106.ocn.ad.jp...
> I'm on my way home from the station and see the door of this rinky-dink
> little izakaya come flying open and two plastered oyajis come rolling
> out(one of them,literally) and a huge sissy-boy slap party ensued. As wet
as
> I was I had to stand and watch this silliness as did a young guy driving a
> van in the road next to me.
> These two old queers had no balls whatsoever. Smacking and slapping and
> "kono yaroing" all over the place.
> After I couldn't deal with the lameness any longer I looked at the dude in
> the van,shrugged and said"omoshirokunai" he said,"un" and we both bolted.
> This is one of several street fights that I have seen in three years.
> Are they really all such weak fighters??
> I've seen better punchups in nursing home parking lots back home.
>
> Faegs.
>
>
> Brian
>
>
You are very correct. May I suck your cock now, Daddy?
> > Now everybody please fuck off.
>
> Much oblidged.
>
Thanks,Pops!*sluuuuurrrrrrpppp*
Brian
>On 9/21/03 7:44, in article bkk2us$2iicq$1...@ID-201738.news.uni-berlin.de,
I could, but I'd rather not.