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ADSL and Windows 98

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mr.sumo snr.

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2003/08/21 9:08:162003/08/21
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Helping a local JET get hooked up to her new ADSL account tomorrow evening.
Unfortunately she's using a fairly old Toshiba notebook operating English
Windows 98 (don't know if it's first or second edition). Her line is
changed, she has the modem, I have the network card, and the OCN account is
set-up.

Anyone have the low down on configuring Windoze 98 to use? I'm sure it's
very simply...lol...but is there anything to look out for - and/or where's
best to download the pppoe software.

Apologies - I haven't Googled these questions since I'm after a quick fix
answer from someone who's already done this.

Thanks.


--
jonathan
--
"Never give a gun to ducks"


Ken Yasumoto-Nicolson

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2003/08/21 11:05:082003/08/21
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:08:16 +0900, "mr.sumo snr."
<mr_...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Helping a local JET get hooked up to her new ADSL account tomorrow evening.
>Unfortunately she's using a fairly old Toshiba notebook operating English
>Windows 98 (don't know if it's first or second edition). Her line is
>changed, she has the modem, I have the network card, and the OCN account is
>set-up.

If she's running FLETS it might be a bit tricky, as I'm not sure how
good the NTT-supplied PPPoE software is with Win98, especially if it's
English Win98. If it's a proper account, Win98 should autodetect
everything, and just set DCHP for the network adapter. After a number
of reboots, it should all be up and running, in theory.

>jonathan

Ken

Michael Cash

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2003/08/21 11:55:182003/08/21
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:08:16 +0900, "mr.sumo snr."
<mr_...@hotmail.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going with:

When I switched to ADSL I was still running Win98SE(J). The nice lady
at NTT asked me what system I was using. They sent me a disc to use
and installation was easier than falling off a log. Easier in fact,
than it was for me to figure out how to set up a new connection on XP.
Even easier than when I did XP again on the new computer a couple days
ago and spent half an hour cussing the entire planet because I
couldn't recall how to go about it.

Figuring out the configuration will be the easy part.

The hard part will be getting used to resetting the fucking modem
every five fucking minutes because fucking Windows 98 just don't
fucking like high speed access.

--

Michael Cash

"There was a time, Mr. Cash, when I believed you must be the most useless
thing in the world. But that was before I read a Microsoft help file."

Prof. Ernest T. Bass
Mount Pilot College


http://www.sunfield.ne.jp/~mike/

Reg Blank

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2003/08/21 11:41:552003/08/21
To: mr.sumo snr.

mr.sumo snr. wrote:
> Helping a local JET get hooked up to her new ADSL account tomorrow evening.
> Unfortunately she's using a fairly old Toshiba notebook operating English
> Windows 98 (don't know if it's first or second edition). Her line is
> changed, she has the modem, I have the network card, and the OCN account is
> set-up.
>
> Anyone have the low down on configuring Windoze 98 to use? I'm sure it's
> very simply...lol...but is there anything to look out for - and/or where's
> best to download the pppoe software.

I would suggest having the Windoze 98/SE (or whatever) CD handy. After
the installation of the network card, Windoze would most likely look for
various things from the CD. Seeing it's a notebook, it's probably on
the hard disk though.

As for the PPPoe software, doesn't the modem/router handle that part,
no?


Reg.

Hibijibi

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2003/08/21 12:19:122003/08/21
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"mr.sumo snr."...

Haven't done it exactly, but...

Windows 98 doesn't natively support PPPOE, but the adsl folks will provide
you with pppoe software. Unfortunately, this will be in Japanese and be
illegible in english win98. However, you can download free pppoe client
software - although it won't be supported (naturally) by your JET's adsl
folks. Among free offerings, the most common seems to be www.raspppoe.com.
If she's using a router which supports pppoe, then she might not need it.
Another link to check out is www.bricks.co.jp for more info.


best,
hibijibi


mr.sumo snr.

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2003/08/21 12:48:562003/08/21
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"mr.sumo snr." <mr_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Thanks people - I think she has a supplied disc - now I'll have to try and
dig out Windows 98 - I think I have it somewhere 'coz she's sure she doesn't
have her own install disc. Now where is that second edition version....?

--
jonathan


Pete

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2003/08/21 17:10:152003/08/21
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"mr.sumo snr." <mr_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bi2t5r$4du9k$1...@ID-141600.news.uni-berlin.de...

> "mr.sumo snr." <mr_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:bi2g83$4jter$1...@ID-141600.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
> Thanks people - I think she has a supplied disc - now I'll have to try and
> dig out Windows 98 - I think I have it somewhere 'coz she's sure she
doesn't
> have her own install disc. Now where is that second edition version....?
>
> --
> jonathan
>

If it's an English OS , the disc supplied by NTT , which contains a Japanese
version of Enternet PPPoE won't work , honest

use www.raspppoe.com

Jon up in Tohoku

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2003/08/21 17:32:042003/08/21
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> Windows 98 doesn't natively support PPPOE, but the adsl folks will provide
> you with pppoe software. Unfortunately, this will be in Japanese and be
> illegible in english win98. However, you can download free pppoe client
> software - although it won't be supported (naturally) by your JET's adsl
> folks. Among free offerings, the most common seems to be www.raspppoe.com.
> If she's using a router which supports pppoe, then she might not need it.
> Another link to check out is www.bricks.co.jp for more info.

I swear to god, if you just browse the damn CD supplied from NTT there will
be an English version of that DUN hook-up software.

the easiest way to deal with ADSL FLETS is just to put a router between the
computer, and adapter, then it is a no brainer, and it adds an extra layer
of protection.

Jon


Michael Cash

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2003/08/21 17:45:202003/08/21
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 01:48:56 +0900, "mr.sumo snr."

<mr_...@hotmail.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going with:

>"mr.sumo snr." <mr_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

I have the disc for the Japanese version, if she is feeling
adventurous.

Brett Robson

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2003/08/21 22:10:522003/08/21
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:08:16 +0900, mr.sumo snr. ...

>
>Helping a local JET get hooked up to her new ADSL account tomorrow evening.
>Unfortunately she's using a fairly old Toshiba notebook operating English
>Windows 98 (don't know if it's first or second edition). Her line is
>changed, she has the modem, I have the network card, and the OCN account is
>set-up.
>

Gowan is having problems with his "chat machine" so he emailed me his answer
which I paraphrase.

He made a disparging remark about JETs in general, Win 98 and his advice was if
the JET could speak Japanese she could contact NTT support herself.


-

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saying we do it this way so should you"
- Gov George W Bush

mr.sumo snr.

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2003/08/21 23:30:572003/08/21
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"Michael Cash" <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> wrote in message
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>>
> I have the disc for the Japanese version, if she is feeling
> adventurous.
>
>

Thanks - found it - Win98 SE that is - or to be precise, found it courtesy
of Supernova.

Anyway, read up on what I need to do. Looks fairly straightforward - but if
all else fails I'm also taking one of my spare WinXP notebooks and she can
use that until I get back from Blighty.

mr.sumo snr.

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2003/08/22 14:45:382003/08/22
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"mr.sumo snr." <mr_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Thanks again for all the useful advice. Succeeded in getting the Win98
notebook up, running and connected - albeit for just a few minutes...once
she'd tried out my XP notebook - well, needless to say you can figure the
rest out yourselves, which is why I'm still up at 3.43 am finishing off
Service Pack 1!

Michael Cash

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2003/08/23 6:50:362003/08/23
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On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 03:45:38 +0900, "mr.sumo snr."

<mr_...@hotmail.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going with:

>"mr.sumo snr." <mr_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

Now there's a euphemism for it I had never heard before.

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