Why Koreans hate Japanese
Piccolo
japanese, I(an american) am a neutral source free of bias.
Japan denies, Korea accuses. Korea, however, is correct in being angry
at japan in my opinion. Let me list simple facts to support my thesis
that japan should apologize for agression towards korea.
Did you know that:
In the last THOUSAND years, japan has invaded korea TWICE! That's a
lot, even more than most koreans can count.
Japan had no wars with korea in the preceding four centuries, because
the EVIL AGGRESSIVE JAPANESE were plotting how they would invade korea
centuries ahead of time.
That NO MAJOR atrocities were committed in korea in world war two, but
a few thousand comfort women were recruited. Those koreans sure had it
tough!
And worst
That japanese did the worst to korea by ESTABLISHING TRADE with them
for *gasp* SEVERAL CENTURIES.
Clearly the japanese should be punished.
ypark
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> I think that in order to properly demonstrate korea's enmity to the
> japanese, I(an american) am a neutral source free of bias.
The worst response to this moron's babble is to argue with him.
Just ignore. Of course I am only talking to Koreans. I don't care what
others think or do.
Y. Park
Enoch in You
> I think that in order to properly demonstrate korea's enmity to the
> japanese, I(an american) am a neutral source free of bias.
It seems you are not neutral.
> Japan denies, Korea accuses.
No, they just have two different perspectives on history.
It is Korean history that is totally distorted.
>Korea, however, is correct in being angry
> at japan in my opinion.
No. Korea has absolutely no right to get angry at Japan.
Koreans should get angry at themselves.
>Let me list simple facts to support my thesis
> that japan should apologize for agression towards korea.
Korea should apologize to Japan for unreasonable hatred
toward Japan for thousands of years first.
> Did you know that:
>
> In the last THOUSAND years, japan has invaded korea TWICE! That's a
> lot, even more than most koreans can count.
Just one time. The second time was not invasion. It was annexation.
Incidentally, China invaded Korea numerous times, but Koreans do not
complain about this. It tells me that those Koreans who wrote Korean
history are extremely biased toward China.
> Japan had no wars with korea in the preceding four centuries, because
> the EVIL AGGRESSIVE JAPANESE were plotting how they would invade korea
> centuries ahead of time.
It was always the Koreans who were biased. Stop perverting the truth.
> That NO MAJOR atrocities were committed in korea in world war two, but
> a few thousand comfort women were recruited. Those koreans sure had it
> tough!
> And worst
>
> That japanese did the worst to korea by ESTABLISHING TRADE with them
> for *gasp* SEVERAL CENTURIES.
Stupid one. The reason Japan invaded Korea during 16th century is because
Korea stopped all the trade with Japan with absolutely no reason whatsoever,
and out of selfish reason to look good on China.
> Clearly the japanese should be punished.
You will soon realize that it will be the pro-China Koreans like you who
will get punished.
Enoch in You
Supertech
"Enoch in You" <enoch...@somewhere.com> wrote in message
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> Korea stopped all the trade with Japan with absolutely no reason
whatsoever,
> and out of selfish reason to look good on China.
>
Who would like to trade with Midgets plundering the southern shore of Korean
peninsula for centuries? Have you ever read the story how general Yi Sung
Gael eliminated those "Awe" pests at the southern shore?
What would you gain from those barbarians?
Didn't your parent ever tell you not to play with those "Sang Nom's kid"
Koreans could have learned having sex in front of public from Japanese. But
this didn't happen.
Do you know why Korean government still prohibit certain Japanese movies and
Cartoons from import?
Because "Wae"s explicit and dirty sexual content and violence deeply
disgusts and undermines Korean's superb morality and dignity.
In ancient times, it would have been much more severe.
They have concluded long time ago, its useless to deal with those filthy
barbarians.
Supertech
They just feel sorry for them.
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Enoch in You
I don't see any difference between you and the chinamen.
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Enoch in You
> news:3yeya.5453$95....@www.newsranger.com...
> > "Piccolo" <piccolog...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:...
> > Stupid one. The reason Japan invaded Korea during 16th century is
because
> > Korea stopped all the trade with Japan with absolutely no reason
> whatsoever,
> > and out of selfish reason to look good on China.
>
> Who would like to trade with Midgets plundering the southern shore of
Korean
> peninsula for centuries? Have you ever read the story how general Yi Sung
> Gael eliminated those "Awe" pests at the southern shore?
No, I've never heard of it, and Korean people like you are really a deep
shit.
> What would you gain from those barbarians?
> Didn't your parent ever tell you not to play with those "Sang Nom's kid"
Superkech, Ssang-nom, came from "Xiang-Nu" which chinese called Huns.
> Koreans could have learned having sex in front of public from Japanese.
But
> this didn't happen.
> Do you know why Korean government still prohibit certain Japanese movies
and
> Cartoons from import?
That's because idiots like you cannot handle it. They are really doing it
for
people like you.
> Because "Wae"s explicit and dirty sexual content and violence deeply
> disgusts and undermines Korean's superb morality and dignity.
Stupid supterkech, it is precisely because of this kind of utterance and
pretentiousness, that the real Koreans came down to Korean penninsula.
To avoid insolent people like you. But obviously such things were not
broadcasted to likes of you.
> In ancient times, it would have been much more severe.
> They have concluded long time ago, its useless to deal with those filthy
> barbarians.
It is usually barbarians who boast their newly civlized custom.
This is why I can clearly tell that your ancestors were probably a new-comer
from barbaric world to the civlized world.
Those people who has long history of civilization do not boast like this.
This is also how I know Chinese are also relatively new-converts to
civilization that Korean ancestors had brought to them.
But not only to the chinese people, they tried to bring people like you
to civilization as well. They just didn't know how you would so much
brag about it, after you taste the civilization.
Kaz
> Clearly the japanese should be punished.
Clearly terrorist who trys to punish the innocent post-war born
Japanese on war charges that are not convinced and proved well should
be punished. The only person who could punish people by that kind of
uncertain charge emerged by ugly Korean's hatred, and maybe by their
plots would have been the dictator Saddam or Kim.
Kyoskyu
> I think that in order to properly demonstrate korea's enmity to the
> japanese, I(an american) am a neutral source free of bias.
>
>
I hope you're saying this with tongue in cheek. If you try applying any
of the Japanese actions to the United States, there would be rataliation.
> In the last THOUSAND years, japan has invaded korea TWICE! That's a lot,
> even more than most koreans can count.
And what do you think would happen if a nation violated the United State's
borders? <sarcasm> I'm sure the United States would realize that once is
an oversight and twice is forgivable. </sarcasm>
> Japan had no wars with korea in the preceding four centuries, because
> the EVIL AGGRESSIVE JAPANESE were plotting how they would invade korea
> centuries ahead of time.
I think you could apply this to the US and Pearl Harbor. Japan did not
have any major aggressions against the USA until Pearl Harbor but one
measly surpise attack caused the US to attack the Japanese, which finally
concluded by the United States dropping two nuclear weapons on Japan.
<sarcasm> How unreasonable. </sarcasm>
> That NO MAJOR atrocities were committed in korea in world war two, but a
> few thousand comfort women were recruited. Those koreans sure had it
> tough!
Once again, let's forcibly "recruit" a few thousand American comfort women
and see how well the United States would react/respond. Let's not also
forget the fact that each of these comfort women were someone's mothers,
sisters, aunts, and nieces.
Rosh
> japanese, I(an american) am a neutral source free of bias.
Ah... Hum. Ok, lets take your word as it is. ;)
>
>
> In the last THOUSAND years, japan has invaded korea TWICE! That's a
> lot, even more than most koreans can count.
If you go over one thousand years, I would not suprise if Japanese or
what it would be
called as Japanese invaded the land what it is called as Korea now
more than twice.
The land of Korea is just a little bit too far away to swim from the
islands of Japan but
its not that awfully far away. Same thing can be said to Korean,
too. There were
quite a lot of Koreans came to Japan and settled down here. At lease,
it is wanrmer
here in winter.
> And worst
>
> That japanese did the worst to korea by ESTABLISHING TRADE with them
> for *gasp* SEVERAL CENTURIES.
>
Hum? Whats wrong with it?
grun...@msn.com
> > I think that in order to properly demonstrate korea's enmity to the
> > japanese, I(an american) am a neutral source free of bias.
>
> It seems you are not neutral.
>
> > Japan denies, Korea accuses.
Show evidence of "why Koreans hate Japanese." That is, why do you
write Koreans hate Japanese? Where is the hatred?
"Enoch in You" <enoch...@somewhere.com> wrote in message news:<3yeya.5453$95....@www.newsranger.com>...
> No, they just have two different perspectives on history.
> It is Korean history that is totally distorted.
Like what, what part of Korean history is distorted?
USA
"Kyoskyu" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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To even attempt to make a comparison between a world power like the United
States and
a small colony like Korea is totally idiotic.
Only a moron would even suggest it.
Austin P. So (Hae Jin)
Maybe it would help someone as challenged as you if they were to state
outright that their post is meant to be sarcastic...
Then again...maybe not...
Austin
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Supertech
> "Supertech" <ejo...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message news:
> > "Enoch in You" <enoch...@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> > news:3yeya.5453$95....@www.newsranger.com...
> > > "Piccolo" <piccolog...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:...
> > > Stupid one. The reason Japan invaded Korea during 16th century is
> because
> > > Korea stopped all the trade with Japan with absolutely no reason
> > whatsoever,
> > > and out of selfish reason to look good on China.
> >
> > Who would like to trade with Midgets plundering the southern shore of
> Korean
> > peninsula for centuries? Have you ever read the story how general Yi
Sung
>
> No, I've never heard of it, and Korean people like you are really a deep
> shit.
You don't know a thing about Korean history. Ignorant sslgae ppazin nom.
How can I talk about Korean history like a stupid idiot like you.
Just take any one of the Korean history book that is mentioning about Wae's
plundering records. It happened pretty serious at the end of Koryo dynasty
and also in the middle (1592) and at the end of Chosun dynasty but it
precedes far more frequent at the time of even Shilla.
You don't know a shit about Korean history, ignorant Ssangnom, Eunuch.
Ssangnoms do not read any history books and boast as if he knows a lot. Not
only that, brag about being filthy fucking animals fucking in the middle of
the street. You are one ignorant low life shit.
Humans have dignity and decency that far ahead of any animals and that's
what makes a human being different from animals.
There are enough reasons for Koreans to think Wae's are animals and despise
them.
Who cares if you fuck your wife in your bedroom, but don't do it in the
middle of the street. Ok Idiot Doo Whan?
Why the hell would the police arrest you if you do that in America or in any
of the civilized countries?
But then, who would care if you do that in the middle of Gorillas in a
Safari zoo?
Tze Tze.. Pathetic Idiot..
John Yamamoto-Wilson
> In the last THOUSAND years, japan has invaded korea TWICE! That's a
> lot, even more than most koreans can count...
> Stupid one. The reason Japan invaded Korea during 16th century is because
> Korea stopped all the trade with Japan with absolutely no reason
whatsoever,
> and out of selfish reason to look good on China.
> Who would like to trade with Midgets...
> > Have you ever read the story how general Yi Sung
> > Gael eliminated those "Awe" pests at the southern shore?
>
> No, I've never heard of it, and Korean people like you are really a deep
> shit.
> You are very stupid Doohwan...
> Koreans do not hate Midgets.
>
> They just feel sorry for them...
> Superkech [sic], you are on [sic] incredibly stupid person...
> Clearly terrorist who trys to punish the innocent post-war born
> Japanese on war charges that are not convinced and proved well should
> be punished. The only person who could punish people by that kind of
> uncertain charge emerged by ugly Korean's hatred, and maybe by their
> plots would have been the dictator Saddam or Kim...
> To even attempt to make a comparison between a world power like the United
> States and
> a small colony like Korea is totally idiotic.
> Only a moron would even suggest it...
> The land of Korea is just a little bit too far away to swim from the
> islands of Japan but
> its not that awfully far away.
Ah, at last! The kind of thoughtful, informed analysis of sociopolitical
relations in eastern Asia that I've been looking for for years, with just
that touch of pithy realism that brings it all to life and makes it all so
meaningful.
Sock culture, sock history, get a life in Japan - more strength to your
elbow! (Speaking of which, time to crack out another beer, I think...)
John Yamamoto-Wilson
[rant snipped]
> You are one ignorant low life shit.
[more rant snipped]
> Humans have dignity and decency that far ahead of any animals and that's
> what makes a human being different from animals.
Apparently, no irony was intended.
--
John
http://rarebooksinjapan.com
Enoch in You
It's because Japanese people are trying to live good life,
but like those ugly chinese dorks, you keep calling them
bad names.
You should probably have noticed that it is those of
Paekje descents who are sexually very perverted.
And compare it with Jun-ra-nam-do Koreans, who are
south-western Koreans.
Obviously, you are such a f**ked up bastard.
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> "Enoch in You" <enoch...@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> > "Supertech" <ejo...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message news:
> > > "Enoch in You" <enoch...@somewhere.com> wrote in message
Kaz
> Koreans do not hate Midgets.
>
> They just feel sorry for them.
This is the proof that the kimchee gooks hate the Japanese.
Enoch in You
When people listen to a stupid statement, they automatically
think, "oh... he/she must be sarcastic."
But These Koreans are not being sarcastic at all,
they are being serious.
And they still don't know how stupid they sound.
"Austin P. So (Hae Jin)" <hae...@netinfo.ubc.ca> wrote in message news:...
Enoch in You
> "Enoch in You" <enoch...@somewhere.com> wrote in message
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> > No, they just have two different perspectives on history.
> > It is Korean history that is totally distorted.
>
> Like what, what part of Korean history is distorted?
Japanese Invasion, for one.
Korea, China, and Japan was peacefully doing trade via land
and sea. And ever since Chosun Dynasty, because of Ming Dynasty's
China-centralism policy, the Koreans started treating Japan harsely
to advocate that evil China empire.
If you look at the map, you could easily find that Korea blocking
Japan's trade route, was a suicide and political isolation for Japan.
Korean history, OTOH, records it like Koreans were innocent
angelic figures, who just happened to be attacked by "evil Japanese."
Enoch in You
John Yamamoto-Wilson
> This is the proof that the kimchee gooks hate the Japanese.
No, it just proves how *one person* feels. And what does your reply prove,
except that you feel the same way? Or is "kimchee gook" a term of respect in
your vocabulary?
Haven't you got anything better to do than exchange insults at 4.00 in the
morning (Japan time)? And haven't I got anything better to do than listen to
you? (God, I wish I could get to sleep!)
Kaz
> "Enoch in You" <enoch...@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> news:3yeya.5453$95....@www.newsranger.com...
> > "Piccolo" <piccolog...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:...
> > Stupid one. The reason Japan invaded Korea during 16th century is because
> > Korea stopped all the trade with Japan with absolutely no reason
> whatsoever,
> > and out of selfish reason to look good on China.
> >
>
>
> Who would like to trade with Midgets plundering the southern shore of Korean
> peninsula for centuries? Have you ever read the story how general Yi Sung
> Gael eliminated those "Awe" pests at the southern shore?
They are much better than Huns spreading all kinds of diseases all
over the world.
> What would you gain from those barbarians?
What would you gain from those squint-eyed Huns like you?
> Didn't your parent ever tell you not to play with those "Sang Nom's kid"
>
> Koreans could have learned having sex in front of public from Japanese. But
> this didn't happen.
>
> Do you know why Korean government still prohibit certain Japanese movies and
> Cartoons from import?
>
> Because "Wae"s explicit and dirty sexual content and violence deeply
> disgusts and undermines Korean's superb morality and dignity.
>
> In ancient times, it would have been much more severe.
>
> They have concluded long time ago, its useless to deal with those filthy
> barbarians.
Another proof that dog-eating barbarians hate the Japanese. You don't
have to worry about the Japanese anymore. Soon, the Japanese and the
US will launch troops to your disgusting Kim's land.
Kaz
just retarded kimchee brain, but also Kim Jong Il's penis.
"Supertech" <ejo...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message news:<cyfya.30264$ql5.1...@twister.austin.rr.com>...
> Who would like to trade with Midgets plundering the southern shore of Korean
John Yamamoto-Wilson
> > They have concluded long time ago, its useless to deal with those filthy
> > barbarians.
Kaz responded:
> Another proof that dog-eating barbarians hate the Japanese.
No, what Supertech says only proves what kind of person *he* is. It doesn't
prove anything at all about what Koreans are like as a whole. And what Kaz
says only proves what kind of person *he* is. It doesn't prove anything at
all about what the Japanese are like as a whole - thank God (in both cases)!
ypark
> You are very stupid Doohwan...
>
> Maybe it would help someone as challenged as you if they were to state
> outright that their post is meant to be sarcastic...
>
> Then again...maybe not...
He posted right after I did(urging not to respond to "piccolo" moron) and
it was really hilarious. (It appears that "piccolo" is a fake too.
"Piccolo" appears to have a different profile in other posts.)
It is comforting to know that Eunuch is not Korean. At least by my
standard. I don't count half breeds and quarter breeds as Koreans. You
always tell my that is racist? Well it is good to be racist in this case.
Y. Park
ypark
ypark
"Kaz" <k...@ivebeenframed.com> wrote in message
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"gooks" referred to japanese during the WW2 and to vietnamese after that.
There is no slang word exclusively for Koreans. Sorry jappy.
Y. Park
,fj.life.in-japan deleted.
USA
That's incorrect. Although there are indications that the term gook existed
from the time the US took over
the Phillipines, the term was never used for Japanese. Only the terms Jap
and Nip were.
Gook was used widely in the Korean War to refer to Koreans specifically,
then later in the Vietnam
war to mean vietnamese and asians in general.
USA
USA
the Japanese Empire...so all you "gooks" were "japs".
They were in IJA unforms shooting at Americans.
USA
ypark
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>> That's incorrect. Although there are indications that the term gook
existed
Moron, read "war without mercy"
Y. Park
Kaz
> Kaz wrote:
>
> > This is the proof that the kimchee gooks hate the Japanese.
>
> except that you feel the same way? Or is "kimchee gook" a term of respect in
> your vocabulary?
Just an eye for an eye, a teeth for a teeth. Never mind it. I'm saying
kimchee gooks like him hate the Japanese, not saying that it's the
proof that Koreans hate the Japanese. The term "kimchee gook" refers
to a kind of creature like Supertech, and it doesn't refer to ordinary
Koreans.
> Haven't you got anything better to do than exchange insults at 4.00 in the
> morning (Japan time)? And haven't I got anything better to do than listen to
> you? (God, I wish I could get to sleep!)
Relax and get some sleep.
Coming across Supertech's post and reading it also awoke me.
USA
Did you have family in WWII?
I did., trust me.
Fucking green-assed moron.
USA
ypark
>
> Did you have family in WWII?
> I did., trust me.
> Fucking green-assed moron.
>
> USA
>
I noticed this imbecile replying to a few of my earlier posts as well. He
certainly tries very hard, but his verbal skills are so lacking that I
initially thought he was some kind of korean born half breeds who have deep
grudge against Korean males. But his grammatical error pattern seems to
indicate that he is a native English speaker(only with very poor grammar and
writing skills)
Whatever...... he isn't entertaining even in Eunuch-sense. He is just
plain old drab-stupid.
Y. Park
Superlifer
> These people are being sarcastic.
>
> When people listen to a stupid statement, they automatically
> think, "oh... he/she must be sarcastic."
>
> But These Koreans are not being sarcastic at all,
> they are being serious.
>
> And they still don't know how stupid they sound.
doohwan... if you have any grasp of the real world, and have any kind of
person to person contact, you would know the original post was a sarcastic
post about koreans, but since you're a hermit who lives in a world of his
own, you obviously don't understand it. seriously. are you seeking any kind
of help?
Superlifer
nah~ he's some former g.i. with a yang-gal-boh wife. he's very angry at the
world because he doesn't feel accepted by the KA community (and never will
with his crappy attitude), and vents his frustration on KA's. he's rather a
simple fellow.
USA
USA
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Thanks gaegoi
Daniel Paik
>Thanks gaegoi
hi Sowa. so...how've ya been?
Dan.
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i was bored one day and ended up making http://www.hanguk.com/~danpaik
check out www.ultimateamerican.com for some cool t-shirts and bumper stickers
Miap37
facts before pointing self-righteous fingers on others...
Did you know that America (US) has invaded 73 TIMES Latin America
between 1824 and 1994? Do you want to know the death toll of those
invasions? Do you want to know how many civilians have been MURDERED
by American troops in, let's say, Nicaragua, durin Bush Sr mad
administration?
If we were bound to follow your logic, then we Latin Americans should
shot any American only on sight...
And let's better not go in more recent war crimes commited by USA
(like Afghanistan and Iraq Invasions, violating in BOTH cases the
corpus of International law)
I mean, it's true that Japan commited war crimes, but, boy, some
people tend to forget that also Westerners (specially Americans, but
also French in Algeria and their old Asian colonies, or Belgians in
Africa) also did it, and these things are kept in the dark. If we have
to talk about Japanese crimes, we should also talk about the other
criminals and their bloody actions...
"Supertech" <ejo...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message news:<PUfya.30269$ql5.1...@twister.austin.rr.com>...
> Koreans do not hate Midgets.
>
> They just feel sorry for them.
>
>
>
>
> "Piccolo" <piccolog...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:384b9be.03051...@posting.google.com...
> > I think that in order to properly demonstrate korea's enmity to the
> > japanese, I(an american) am a neutral source free of bias.
> >
> >
> > Japan denies, Korea accuses. Korea, however, is correct in being angry
> > at japan in my opinion. Let me list simple facts to support my thesis
> > that japan should apologize for agression towards korea.
> >
> >
> >
> > Did you know that:
> >
> >
> > In the last THOUSAND years, japan has invaded korea TWICE! That's a
> > lot, even more than most koreans can count.
> >
> >
> > Japan had no wars with korea in the preceding four centuries, because
> > the EVIL AGGRESSIVE JAPANESE were plotting how they would invade korea
> > centuries ahead of time.
> >
> >
> > That NO MAJOR atrocities were committed in korea in world war two, but
> > a few thousand comfort women were recruited. Those koreans sure had it
> > tough!
> >
> >
> > And worst
> >
> > That japanese did the worst to korea by ESTABLISHING TRADE with them
> > for *gasp* SEVERAL CENTURIES.
Enoch in You
I simply got carried away.
But one thing did not change. You are still a moron.
Austin P. So (Hae Jin)
"Daniel Paik" <uc...@soda.csua.berkeley.edu> wrote in message
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> In article <hnyya.37449$zt....@nwrdny01.gnilink.net>, USA <U...@aol.com>
wrote:
> >Thanks gaegoi
>
> hi Sowa. so...how've ya been?
This guy denied he was Sowa in the past...but the similarities in style are
quite remarkable, no?
Austin
Austin P. So (Hae Jin)
> Did you have family in WWII?
> I did., trust me.
> Fucking green-assed moron.
What kinda of dumbfuck question is that? Who the fuck didn't have familiy in
WW2?
Did you have familiy in the Korean War?
Dumbass.
Austin
Austin P. So (Hae Jin)
> <grun...@msn.com> wrote in message news:...
> > "Enoch in You" <enoch...@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> news:<3yeya.5453$95....@www.newsranger.com>...
> > > No, they just have two different perspectives on history.
> > > It is Korean history that is totally distorted.
> >
> > Like what, what part of Korean history is distorted?
>
> Japanese Invasion, for one.
Yeah...right Doowhan.
Name me one book you read about the Hideyoshi invasions...
> Korea, China, and Japan was peacefully doing trade via land
> and sea.
Yes they were.
But there were these organized groups that were called "pirates" which
tended to be from coastal prefectures along Japan that the Japanese had a
problem dealing with and did not deal with which had been raiding coastal
areas of Korea and China since the Unified Shilla period.
At first they were pretty benign, but they grew to be a real problem into
the early Chosun period. That is why King Sejong led an expedition to
Tsushima which was the homebase for this pirating activity. Japan had no
central authority to deal with this problem and was probably a lot more
concerned about their "civil" wars.
Eventually trade was restricted not closed. The trading ports of Pusan,
Ginhae and .. the other one ... were closed to all Japanese and now all
trade and diplomacy was allowed through Tsushima.
> And ever since Chosun Dynasty, because of Ming Dynasty's
> China-centralism policy, the Koreans started treating Japan harsely
> to advocate that evil China empire.
> If you look at the map, you could easily find that Korea blocking
> Japan's trade route, was a suicide and political isolation for Japan.
Look Doohwan, at that point Japanese didn't care about trade. They were busy
centralizing power through interclan conflicts. Hideoyoshi, a peasant,
managed to unify the islands where everyone had failed for ~1000 years.
And because of this success, he believed he was destined to conquer China.
He believed it was his birthright. to do this. He sent a letter to the
Korean court and stated that he was on this mission, and if Korea acquiesed,
he would treat them nicely as befits a loyal prefecture.
Chosun refused and he invaded.
And after this was all said and done, Ieyasu (who took over from Hideoyoshi)
apologized to Korea, sent back those people that were kidnapped, except for
those who wanted to stay because life was more bearable there (artisans were
taken care of very well in Japan, even if they were equivalent in ability to
the lowest rung of artisans in Korea at the time), and promised never to
invade again. And Korea reopened Pusan as a trading port and it stayed that
way until Taewongun closed it down in the early mid 1800's.
So all of your arguments are false Doohwan. Sure you can say that Koreans
regarded Japanese as "barbarians", and treated them diplomatically as such.
But Korea never did anything untoward to the Japanese people or chinese
peoples for that matter in its entire history.
Of course, you can try to come up with an example for me...
> Korean history, OTOH, records it like Koreans were innocent
> angelic figures, who just happened to be attacked by "evil Japanese."
Sure Doohwan...taking a balanced viewpoint is not something you are familiar
with, whether it is a discussion of Japanese=Korean historical relations, or
supporting your new messiah dubya.
Austin
Supertech
> <grun...@msn.com> wrote in message news:...
> >
> > Like what, what part of Korean history is distorted?
>
> Japanese Invasion, for one.
> If you look at the map, you could easily find that Korea blocking
> Japan's trade route, was a suicide and political isolation for Japan.
>
> Korean history, OTOH, records it like Koreans were innocent
> angelic figures, who just happened to be attacked by "evil Japanese."
If you wanted a trade route, you should have behaved humbly and properly.
Plundering southern shores of Korean peninsula frequently would not have
improved the situation in favor of your wishes.
Wae was treated properly according to their behavior by Koreans.
Supertech
What kind of decent life is that?
You are a fucked up Jap, Wae Nom.
Do you know why there is no Japanese living in Korea while keeping their
idiotic last name?
What is the last name meaning "in the middle of the field" ?
It's Da NaKa in Japanese.
How desperate do you have to be to make your last name "In the middle of the
field"?
There is no such stupid last name in Korea.
You can not keep such a last name while living in Korea.
Some of the Wae left behind in Korea after the war "Im Jin Wae Ran" and
decided to live in Korea but there is no record of their last name survived.
They changed their last name to Korean style last name.
Why? Because you are ashamed of being a Japanese and you can not tell people
you are one while living in Korea.
Like thieves children can not reveal their identity.
The sentiment against Wae was so strong that you can not even keep your own
last name when you decide to live in Korea.
Do you understand what it means low class moron?
I'm talking about the general sentiment ancient Koreans have toward Wae.
I know this by reading the ancient history books of Korea. But you obviously
have not learned any of those.
"Enoch in You" <enoch...@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:xEuya.5572$95....@www.newsranger.com...
> Superkech, you can go to hell.
>
> It's because Japanese people are trying to live good life,
> but like those ugly chinese dorks, you keep calling them
> bad names.
>
> You should probably have noticed that it is those of
> Paekje descents who are sexually very perverted.
>
> And compare it with Jun-ra-nam-do Koreans, who are
> south-western Koreans.
>
> Obviously, you are such a f**ked up bastard.
>
>
> "Supertech" <ejo...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message news:
> > "Enoch in You" <enoch...@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> > > "Supertech" <ejo...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message news:
> > > > "Enoch in You" <enoch...@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> > > > > "Piccolo" <piccolog...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:...
> > > > > Stupid one. The reason Japan invaded Korea during 16th century is
> because
> > > > > Korea stopped all the trade with Japan with absolutely no reason
> > > > > whatsoever, and out of selfish reason to look good on China.
> > > > Who would like to trade with Midgets plundering the southern shore
of
> > > > Korean peninsula for centuries? Have you ever read the story how
> general Yi Sung
> > > > Gael eliminated those "Wae" pests at the southern shore?
> > > No, I've never heard of it, and Korean people like you are really a
deep
> > > shit.
> >
> > You don't know a thing about Korean history. Ignorant sslgae ppazin nom.
> >
> > How can I talk about Korean history like a stupid idiot like you.
> >
> > Just take any one of the Korean history book that is mentioning about
> Wae's
> > plundering records. It happened pretty serious at the end of Koryo
dynasty
> > and also in the middle (1592) and at the end of Chosun dynasty but it
> > precedes far more frequent at the time of even Shilla.
> >
> > You don't know a shit about Korean history, ignorant Ssangnom, Eunuch.
> > Ssangnoms do not read any history books and boast as if he knows a lot.
> Not
> > only that, brag about being filthy fucking animals fucking in the middle
> of
> > the street. You are one ignorant low life shit.
> >
> > Humans have dignity and decency that far ahead of any animals and that's
> > what makes a human being different from animals.
> >
> > There are enough reasons for Koreans to think Wae's are animals and
> despise
> > them.
> >
> > Who cares if you fuck your wife in your bedroom, but don't do it in the
> > middle of the street. Ok Idiot Doo Whan?
> >
> > Why the hell would the police arrest you if you do that in America or in
> any
> > of the civilized countries?
> >
> > But then, who would care if you do that in the middle of Gorillas in a
> > Safari zoo?
> >
> > Tze Tze.. Pathetic Idiot..
>
>
>
Kevin Gowen
>> Koreans do not hate Midgets.
>>
>> They just feel sorry for them.
>
Do the gooks hate the TOKYO JAPS or just the true Japanese of the Kinai
civilization?
--
Kevin Gowen
Austin P. So (Hae Jin)
> Some of the Wae left behind in Korea after the war "Im Jin Wae Ran" and
> decided to live in Korea but there is no record of their last name
survived.
> They changed their last name to Korean style last name.
You are getting irritating...
Some of the Japanese that stayed in Korea after the Imjin war were granted
"Korean citizenship" because they helped to protect Koreans against the
invading army...they were so offended by the behaviour of Hideoyoshi's army
that they deserted and they were recognized for their act.
I think there is a Lee clan (don't know which pon)...Y. Park should know
better in this matter
Austin
John R. Yamamoto- Wilson
> Do the gooks hate the TOKYO JAPS or just the true Japanese of the Kinai
> civilization?
Nice one, Kevin! Keep that up and I could almost grow to appreciate you!
--
John
http://rarebooksinjapan.com
USA
Superlifer.
grun...@msn.com
> <grun...@msn.com> wrote in message news:...
> > > No, they just have two different perspectives on history.
> > > It is Korean history that is totally distorted.
> >
>
> Japanese Invasion, for one.
>
> China-centralism policy, the Koreans started treating Japan harsely
> to advocate that evil China empire.
>
> Japan's trade route, was a suicide and political isolation for Japan.
>
> Korean history, OTOH, records it like Koreans were innocent
> angelic figures, who just happened to be attacked by "evil Japanese."
>
On a similar note, would you say Poland was on the way of Nazi German
troops march toward USSR? Damn Polish? Maybe, those damned East
Timorese blocking Indonesian troops marching toward ocean? Or is it
damned Tibetans blocking Chinese march toward India Ocean?
Supertech
But the fact still remains that they did not keep their last name either
because they can be molested by those who do not know of their good act only
by looking at their last name or because they wanted to be a complete
Korean.
Otherwise they would have been killed anyway.
Even if you wanted to be a Korean as a Japanese not related to any war, it
would be difficult without changing your last name. This point should be
looked strange by outsiders, although it is an (unadvertised) natural fact
in Korea.
But it tells a lot about the general sentiment of Koreans toward Wae to this
day, which Eunuch has hard time to understand.
Once you change your last name in Korean style and speak Korean like one,
you become a Korean and no questions will be asked.
Either voluntary or forced, there is no Japanese living in Korea while
keeping their original last name and the true ancestral identity. So, you
never know who are they.
Am I telling the fact?
In the eyes of Europeans, this fact should be taken odd considering the time
Wae occupied Korea and the way they are in Europe.
As soon as Wae left Korea, all the Wae style language was banned and removed
from using in the general public. It's considered degrading to use Japanese
words. And their words are actually too primitive and raw to be considered
civilized. Car is still called GuRuMa by Japanese to this day and Korean
school kids will laugh like choking if they hear that.
That's the way Koreans are toward Wae and will be for a long time.
Over powering does not automatically draw respect from Koreans. The US
should learn this aspects of Korean spirit very well.
"Austin P. So (Hae Jin)" <hae...@netinfo.ubc.ca> wrote in message
news:baepqk$lit$1...@nntp.itservices.ubc.ca...
Kaz
> Kaz wrote:
>
>
Kaz
The gooks are extremely ignorant and their government hides and
distorts every fact about Japan so almost all gooks are not aware of
the difference between Tokyo and Kinai. They, the Hun-Koreans even
hate the Koreans inhabiting in Japan just because they are from the
region Juranamdo, the southern shore area of Korea that was the nation
of Shiragi新羅 in the medieval ages. The Kinai
civilization is the more related to the nation of Shiragi so
Hun-Koreans extremely hate us too.
Kaz
> news:<PUfya.30269$ql5.1...@twister.austin.rr.com>...
> > > Koreans do not hate Midgets.
> > >
> > > They just feel sorry for them.
> >
> > This is the proof that the kimchee gooks hate the Japanese.
>
> There is no slang word exclusively for Koreans. Sorry jappy.
This is a proof that shows Hun-Koreans are extremely ignorant.
Supertech
child.
Hun -Koreans educated you Midget barbarians for thousands of years.
Know your teacher and pay due respect.
"Kaz" <k...@ivebeenframed.com> wrote in message
news:365fcc52.0305...@posting.google.com...
Austin P. So (Hae Jin)
> That's the way Koreans are toward Wae and will be for a long time.
For country folk and the uneducated/ignorant, yes that is unfortunately
true...
Austin
Supertech
> distorts every fact about Japan so almost all gooks are not aware of
> the difference between Tokyo and Kinai. They, the Hun-Koreans even
> hate the Koreans inhabiting in Japan just because they are from the
> region Juranamdo, the southern shore area of Korea that was the nation
> of Shiragi新羅 in the medieval ages. The Kinai
> civilization is the more related to the nation of Shiragi so
> Hun-Koreans extremely hate us too.
Hey Kaz, if you feel close to Koreans more than toward the Tokyo japs, why
not request for the official annexation of your islands to Korea, Koreans
will welcome such a move, if the Tokyo japs do not intervene.
For Koreans, all you japs are the same target since it has been pretty
gruesome in ancient times dealing with those pirate Midgets. They don't care
about any distinctions among japs, if they hear about anything Wae, they
just feel nausia with disgusts.
I'm sure that those JunraDo people could go to Ztusima island just by
following the sea current easily in ancient times.
If you have those myth story about Dangun which is the same as in Korea, as
Eunuch said, you are not a Japanese in any historical sense. You are a
Korean. So you don't have to act like a Jap.
You are not the target of mine or any other Koreans despising Japanese.
By the way, I don't know what this gook business is about, I have nothing to
do with it whatever it is. And I never heard of it.
Talking about Kimchi, what about it? I have seen Kimchi served in many
restaurants in Tokyo at a price like a gold. Have you ever tasted the real
Kimchi that makes your suliva drippling just by looking at it? Once you
taste it, you will not want to miss it whenever you have meals. So what's
the deal of this Kimchi gook thing.
I don't think Hun Koreans hate Junrado people. Junrado people was also a
part of ancient Hun by the way. Their name was Byun Hun. The last president
was from Junrado. You are paranoid about Koreans hating you Kinai people.
But that is far from the truth.
Kaz
> Supertech wrote:
>
> > > They have concluded long time ago, its useless to deal with those filthy
> > > barbarians.
>
> Kaz responded:
>
> > Another proof that dog-eating barbarians hate the Japanese.
>
> No, what Supertech says only proves what kind of person *he* is. It doesn't
> prove anything at all about what Koreans are like as a whole. And what Kaz
> says only proves what kind of person *he* is. It doesn't prove anything at
> all about what the Japanese are like as a whole - thank God (in both cases)!
Logically you are right, but are you a sympathizer of Kim Jong Il or
something? Or you have been brainwashed by those Hun-Korean
descendants in the commie city Takarazuka? Things you are stating are
somewhat irrelevant. Definitely those Hun-Korenas like Supertech hate
us and are trying to attack us, and definitely most Japanese don't
like those offensive Hun-Koreans like Kim Jong Il or Supertech who
extremely abuse the Japanese and the people in Juranamdo(Shiragi)
Kaz
> <grun...@msn.com> wrote in message news:...
> > "Enoch in You" <enoch...@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> news:<3yeya.5453$95....@www.newsranger.com>...
> > > No, they just have two different perspectives on history.
> > > It is Korean history that is totally distorted.
> >
> > Like what, what part of Korean history is distorted?
>
> Japanese Invasion, for one.
>
> Korea, China, and Japan was peacefully doing trade via land
> and sea. And ever since Chosun Dynasty, because of Ming Dynasty's
> China-centralism policy, the Koreans started treating Japan harsely
> to advocate that evil China empire.
>
> If you look at the map, you could easily find that Korea blocking
> Japan's trade route, was a suicide and political isolation for Japan.
>
> Korean history, OTOH, records it like Koreans were innocent
> angelic figures, who just happened to be attacked by "evil Japanese."
>
> Enoch in You
It's really surprising how could Koreans deny and erase the historical
fact of the invasion against Japan in the medieval era by Hun-Koreans,
while the invasion is well-known as Kamikaze story in Japan.
Hun-Koreans invaded first but they failed to conquer Japan. Since
then, Hun-Koreans had been enemy to the Japanese and Hideyoshi
revenged it.
The only difference is that Hun-Koreans failed to invade and enslave
the Japanese while Hideyoshi succeeded to hit back Korea. Morally
Koreans have no right to blame Hideyoshi's invasion because Koreans
started first.
Kaz
> Kevin Gowen wrote:
>
> > Do the gooks hate the TOKYO JAPS or just the true Japanese of the Kinai
> > civilization?
>
> Nice one, Kevin! Keep that up and I could almost grow to appreciate you!
It's only nice one for you, I think.
Kaz
>
> "Kaz" <k...@ivebeenframed.com> wrote in message
> news:365fcc52.03052...@posting.google.com...
> >>
> > distorts every fact about Japan so almost all gooks are not aware of
> > the difference between Tokyo and Kinai. They, the Hun-Koreans even
> > hate the Koreans inhabiting in Japan just because they are from the
> > region Juranamdo, the southern shore area of Korea that was the nation
> > of Shiragi新羅 in the medieval ages. The Kinai
> > civilization is the more related to the nation of Shiragi so
> > Hun-Koreans extremely hate us too.
>
No way, I never feel those gook barbarians close to me anymore.
Tokyojaps are much more similar to you offensive dirty stinky Hun-gook
barbarians .
> not request for the official annexation of your islands to Korea, Koreans
> will welcome such a move, if the Tokyo japs do not intervene.
Now I found out how you Hun-gooks are ugly retarded barbarians. You
Hun-gooks are merely our former slaves who have a lot of ugly hatred
and inferiority complex against us. I figure out that we should not
treat you deformed Hun-gooks right since you never treat us right.
> For Koreans, all you japs are the same target since it has been pretty
> gruesome in ancient times dealing with those pirate Midgets. They don't care
> about any distinctions among japs, if they hear about anything Wae, they
> just feel nausia with disgusts.
That's fine, Next to Iraq, now we got an official righteousness to
attack your disgusting Hun-gook's land with Mr. Bush.
> I'm sure that those JunraDo people could go to Ztusima island just by
> following the sea current easily in ancient times.
>
> If you have those myth story about Dangun which is the same as in Korea, as
> Eunuch said, you are not a Japanese in any historical sense. You are a
> Korean. So you don't have to act like a Jap.
Fuck off, you less evolved stinking Hun-gook. I don't have any part
of such gook barbarians like you. You should be aware that analyzing
someone as a Hun is a huge slur because that means "you are a
primitive beast with a full of hatred and inferiority complex against
the Japanese like Supertech has".
> You are not the target of mine or any other Koreans despising Japanese.
No matter how you try to attack us, you can't beat the US and Japanese
hi-tech armed forces.
> By the way, I don't know what this gook business is about, I have nothing to
> do with it whatever it is. And I never heard of it.
>
> Talking about Kimchi, what about it? I have seen Kimchi served in many
> restaurants in Tokyo at a price like a gold. Have you ever tasted the real
> Kimchi that makes your suliva drippling just by looking at it? Once you
> taste it, you will not want to miss it whenever you have meals. So what's
> the deal of this Kimchi gook thing.
>
> I don't think Hun Koreans hate Junrado people. Junrado people was also a
> part of ancient Hun by the way. Their name was Byun Hun. The last president
> was from Junrado. You are paranoid about Koreans hating you Kinai people.
> But that is far from the truth.
No, definitely you Hun-Koreans hate and despise your own people in
Juranamdo just like Sadam Hussein abused Kurds. So you Hun-gook land
should be punished.
Raymond Luxury-Yacht
> I think that in order to properly demonstrate korea's enmity to the
> japanese, I(an american) am a neutral source free of bias.
>
>
> Japan denies, Korea accuses. Korea, however, is correct in being angry
> at japan in my opinion. Let me list simple facts to support my thesis
> that japan should apologize for agression towards korea.
>
> Did you know that:
>
> In the last THOUSAND years, japan has invaded korea TWICE! That's a
> lot, even more than most koreans can count.
>
> Japan had no wars with korea in the preceding four centuries, because
> the EVIL AGGRESSIVE JAPANESE were plotting how they would invade korea
> centuries ahead of time.
>
> That NO MAJOR atrocities were committed in korea in world war two, but
> a few thousand comfort women were recruited. Those koreans sure had it
> tough!
>
> And worst
>
> That japanese did the worst to korea by ESTABLISHING TRADE with them
> for *gasp* SEVERAL CENTURIES.
>
> Clearly the japanese should be punished.
For what? The Japanese, along with the Taiwanese are about the only
people in Asia who are not commie lovers. The Thais also don't like
commies.
Most Asians want to be communist lackeys. Even the South Koreans want
to be commie stooges and live under Kim Jong Il.
I am also amazed at the rampant racism among Asians. They all hate
each other and they also don't like blacks & mexicans.
Asians are a lot like tribal Africans. They are always ready to kill
each other. Look at the genocide in Africa where one tribe slaughters
the other. It is just like Asia.
Enoch in You
> news:Ravya.5579$95....@www.newsranger.com...
> > <grun...@msn.com> wrote in message news:...
> > > "Enoch in You" <enoch...@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> > news:<3yeya.5453$95....@www.newsranger.com>...
> > > > No, they just have two different perspectives on history.
> > > > It is Korean history that is totally distorted.
> > >
> > > Like what, what part of Korean history is distorted?
> >
> > Japanese Invasion, for one.
>
> Yeah...right Doowhan.
>
> Name me one book you read about the Hideyoshi invasions...
>
> > Korea, China, and Japan was peacefully doing trade via land
> > and sea.
>
> Yes they were.
>
> But there were these organized groups that were called "pirates" which
> tended to be from coastal prefectures along Japan that the Japanese had a
> problem dealing with and did not deal with which had been raiding coastal
> areas of Korea and China since the Unified Shilla period.
This has nothing to do with Injin Invasion.
> At first they were pretty benign, but they grew to be a real problem into
> the early Chosun period. That is why King Sejong led an expedition to
> Tsushima which was the homebase for this pirating activity.
I don't remember reading about King Sejong doing this.
I thought it was a Koryo king.
> Japan had no
> central authority to deal with this problem and was probably a lot more
> concerned about their "civil" wars.
> Eventually trade was restricted not closed. The trading ports of Pusan,
> Ginhae and .. the other one ... were closed to all Japanese and now all
> trade and diplomacy was allowed through Tsushima.
I don't think those ports were closed just because of such pirates
activities. It has a lot~ more to do with Chosun's pro-Ming-Dynasty
policy.
> > And ever since Chosun Dynasty, because of Ming Dynasty's
> > China-centralism policy, the Koreans started treating Japan harsely
> > to advocate that evil China empire.
>
> > If you look at the map, you could easily find that Korea blocking
> > Japan's trade route, was a suicide and political isolation for Japan.
>
> Look Doohwan, at that point Japanese didn't care about trade. They were
busy
> centralizing power through interclan conflicts. Hideoyoshi, a peasant,
> managed to unify the islands where everyone had failed for ~1000 years.
Again this is cause and effect problem. What prompted the Japanese to
unite after all? I think it has to do with the fact that Chosun became
a big advocate of Ming's sino-centralism. To the remnant of Kochosun
in Japan, this was probably very unbearable.
> And because of this success, he believed he was destined to conquer China.
> He believed it was his birthright. to do this. He sent a letter to the
> Korean court and stated that he was on this mission, and if Korea
acquiesed,
> he would treat them nicely as befits a loyal prefecture.
Yes, this is because Hideyoshi thought of Chosun as a brotherly nation,
whom they thought would stand up together against Ming-China.
> Chosun refused and he invaded.
A very similar thing happened about 70 years afterwards.
It is Byung-Ja-Ho-Ran, by then the new chinese dynasty by Ching, by
Manchus.
These Manchus wanted to have friendly status with Chosun, because
Manchus knew that Koreans were their brothers, but Chosun's
unrequated love toward Ming did not stop even after its collapse.
This is why the Ching felt very betrayed and invaded Chosun.
As you can see the two wars, Im-jin-wae-ran and Byung-Ja-Ho-ran
are same kinds of war. Chosun's betrayal to its brothers, Manchus and
Japanese have brought them these ordeals.
> And after this was all said and done, Ieyasu (who took over from
Hideoyoshi)
> apologized to Korea, sent back those people that were kidnapped, except
for
> those who wanted to stay because life was more bearable there (artisans
were
> taken care of very well in Japan, even if they were equivalent in ability
to
> the lowest rung of artisans in Korea at the time), and promised never to
> invade again. And Korea reopened Pusan as a trading port and it stayed
that
> way until Taewongun closed it down in the early mid 1800's.
>
> So all of your arguments are false Doohwan. Sure you can say that Koreans
> regarded Japanese as "barbarians", and treated them diplomatically as
such.
> But Korea never did anything untoward to the Japanese people or chinese
> peoples for that matter in its entire history.
This is a distorting of the purpose. Korea never did anything does not
convince anything.
> Of course, you can try to come up with an example for me...
>
> > Korean history, OTOH, records it like Koreans were innocent
> > angelic figures, who just happened to be attacked by "evil Japanese."
>
> Sure Doohwan...taking a balanced viewpoint is not something you are
familiar
> with, whether it is a discussion of Japanese=Korean historical relations,
or
> supporting your new messiah dubya.
It was always like this. I am sure in Japan it is the same way. Koreans
were
taught with very negative nuances. But so much more in Korea, just because
Koreans always thought they had China behind them.
But no longer they could resort to this kind of logic.
Enoch in You
> Austin
Vlad
wrote on 5/20/03 3:29 PM:
>
> "ypark" <ypar...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3eca8ebc$1...@marge.ic.sunysb.edu...
>>
>> "Kaz" <k...@ivebeenframed.com> wrote in message
>> news:365fcc52.03052...@posting.google.com...
>>> "Supertech" <ejo...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:<PUfya.30269$ql5.1...@twister.austin.rr.com>...
>>>> Koreans do not hate Midgets.
>>>>
>>>> They just feel sorry for them.
>>>
>>> This is the proof that the kimchee gooks hate the Japanese.
>>
>> "gooks" referred to japanese during the WW2 and to vietnamese after
> that.
>> There is no slang word exclusively for Koreans. Sorry jappy.
>>
>>
>> Y. Park
>>
>> ,fj.life.in-japan deleted.
>>
>
> That's incorrect. Although there are indications that the term gook existed
> from the time the US took over
> the Phillipines, the term was never used for Japanese. Only the terms Jap
> and Nip were.
> Gook was used widely in the Korean War to refer to Koreans specifically,
> then later in the Vietnam
> war to mean vietnamese and asians in general.
>
> USA
>
>
USA is correct. The term "gook" originated from the Korean war. Derived
from the full word "Mi-Gook" which is the Korean word for America (literally
translated as "beatiful land").
When American soldiers landed on Korean soil, the natives referred to them
as Mi-gook, which was a term of endearment. Unfortunately this word has
been bastardized into a derogatory insult to describe the very people who
tried to use it in a kind way.
A very good example of American ignorance.
sparkup
Raymond Luxury-Yacht wrote:
>
> I am also amazed at the rampant racism among Asians.
I didnt know you were asian.
The Count
http://www.geocities.com/WallStreet/Floor/9597/linx.html
http://www.korea-np.co.jp/pk/others/category22.htm
http://www.sjwar.org/
http://www.sjwar.org/japan-vs-germany.htm
some reasons why i love Japanese:
http://www.bukkake-bath.com/main.html
http://www.scatbabes.com/japscat/slaves/page1.html
a reason why dog eating is better than the japanese alternative:
http://www.animallove.nu/
John Yamamoto-Wilson
> > > Do the gooks hate the TOKYO JAPS or just the true Japanese of the
Kinai
> > > civilization?
I commented:
> > Nice one, Kevin! Keep that up and I could almost grow to appreciate you!
And Kaz said:
> It's only nice one for you, I think.
I think it's nice for everyone who gets tired of e-mails that just rant on
endlessly about
> ugly retarded barbarians
> former slaves who have a lot of ugly hatred
> deformed Hun-gooks
> stinking Hun-gook
> gook barbarians
> primitive beast with a full of hatred and inferiority complex
> you Hun-gook land should be punished.
That's all just from *one* of your postings! And this is all from just one
of Supertech's:
> Ignorant sslgae ppazin nom.
> stupid idiot
> You don't know a shit
> ignorant Ssangnom, Eunuch.
> filthy fucking animals fucking in the middle of the street.
> You are one ignorant low life shit.
> Wae's are animals
> Ok Idiot Doo Whan
After that kind of subhuman drivel *anything* looks nice - even a Kevin
Gowen posting.
But perhaps you boys really ought to stop now, before you start giving too
many people the idea that the best thing for the rest of humanity would be
to let you get together and wipe each other out. ;-)
Enoch in You
That's all you guys did.
Please, don't take credit for what you have not done.
Enoch in You
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Enoch in You
We should find a way to shut this superkech's ignorant mouth.
Enoch in You
Supertech
unified only very recently. You have to know that such a war happened in
Korea 1500 years ago. There were many unsung heroes in the process.
The story may sound kind of heroic and gives you the feeling of a deep human
drama, but that doesn't change the fact that Wae has been pretty pesky to
Koreans for a long time.
If the central government could not control it, it only proves that Wae were
bunch of mobs with no central governing power like in the Amazon jungle
until very recently.
I would not waste my sympathy for such an irresponsible and barbarous group
of people.
Furthermore, reading those absurd fictional stories doesn't make you any
more knowledgeable than any other Koreans who decided not to read it.
"Austin P. So (Hae Jin)" <hae...@netinfo.ubc.ca> wrote in message
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Enoch in You
> To those who read those funny stories about the time when Japan was
getting
> unified only very recently. You have to know that such a war happened in
> Korea 1500 years ago. There were many unsung heroes in the process.
>
> The story may sound kind of heroic and gives you the feeling of a deep
human
> drama, but that doesn't change the fact that Wae has been pretty pesky to
> Koreans for a long time.
If they were pesky, it was because of morons like you.
So they decided to lump all the Koreans together as ignorant as you are.
> If the central government could not control it, it only proves that Wae
were
> bunch of mobs with no central governing power like in the Amazon jungle
> until very recently.
They certainly did have central government back in 1500s and even before
that
too.
> I would not waste my sympathy for such an irresponsible and barbarous
group
> of people.
>
> Furthermore, reading those absurd fictional stories doesn't make you any
> more knowledgeable than any other Koreans who decided not to read it.
Stupid superkech, perhaps you still haven't realized that it was Korean
historians who has been distorting the history between Japan and Korea,
and brainwashed you.
Enoch in You
Enoch in You
> Good point. Although I'm not hear to please your taste.
removed
> from using in the general public. It's considered degrading to use
Japanese
> words. And their words are actually too primitive and raw to be considered
Stupid superkech do not know that the Japanese language is very much like
Koguryo language.
> civilized. Car is still called GuRuMa by Japanese to this day and Korean
> school kids will laugh like choking if they hear that.
Only idiots like you do such thing.
> That's the way Koreans are toward Wae and will be for a long time.
No, it won't be.
> Over powering does not automatically draw respect from Koreans. The US
> should learn this aspects of Korean spirit very well.
What Korean spirit? You don't have one.
Enoch in You
Supertech
northern chimpanzees?
Chosun scholars have been visiting Japan with a bunch of books to teach the
Midgets and there are pictures of it in the Korean history books, where
scholars are riding on a horse.
Furthermore, where do you think you Midgets learned anything about Buddhism
Moron?
Did Buddha fly in an airplane to give you the taste of it?
I think there is a very interesting story about the time of the transfer of
Buddhism to Japan. A famous story of a Shilla monk. I hope someone can
educate this moron Eunuch with the details of the story.
"Enoch in You" <enoch...@somewhere.com> wrote in message
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Supertech
good picture to look at.
If you hate Tokyo japs, fine, but I don't think you should hate Koreans.
Baikje people are kind of different in characters. At least that's how
average Koreans feel. They have been mistreated when Shilla unified the
peninsula. But Shilla should not have unified Korea. Kokuryo should have.
I'm not a huge advocate of Shilla having become the final winner in the
unification of Korean peninsula which is not the unification at all.
Being a native member of a northern province, I tend to think Shilla did
many disservice to Korean people in general. They lost Kokuryo and
introduced China to kill their own people.
Do not assume that every Koreans think the same way.
But that still doesn't give any excuse to many plundering that Wae did on
the southern shores of Korean peninsula.
Kaz
For a sick self-esteemed offensive racist like you, every coloreds is
"subhuman", isn't it? And everything the subhuman says would be drivel
for you isn't it? Kevin Gowen's post is much better than your sick
self-esteemed offensive racist's post though.
> But perhaps you boys really ought to stop now, before you start giving too
Racists always call coloreds "boys". It's quite offensive don't you
know that?
Stop making people sick, you real boy. If you don't like, you don't
have to read it. No one is slandering you, or slandering your ethnic
so you can just pass them.
> many people the idea that the best thing for the rest of humanity would be
> to let you get together and wipe each other out. ;-)
Your humanity is the worst. Glimpsing the ugly attitudes of a sick
self-esteemed racist even make me sick more than Supertech's stupid
posts do.
Supertech
"Raymond Luxury-Yacht" <arthur...@yahoo.co.in> wrote in message
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> each other. Look at the genocide in Africa where one tribe slaughters
> the other. It is just like Asia.
It was not very long ago, you Americans and other Allies killed bunch of
Germans and each other including Jews and Polishes and Russians.
Funny, this idiot has short term memory loss or something.
Supertech
make them to do what you want. That's how the Emperor could manipulate them
to go into the chimney of an armada ship.
But Koreans can always be on top of your head for you to like them.
They are intimidating.
But they can like you, just like watching an animal in a zoo.
"The Count" <vl...@impaler.com> wrote in message
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Scott Erb
>
> "Raymond Luxury-Yacht" <arthur...@yahoo.co.in> wrote in message
> news:5c859948.03052...@posting.google.com...
> > piccolog...@yahoo.com (Piccolo) wrote in message
> news:<384b9be.03051...@posting.google.com>...
> >>
> > Asians are a lot like tribal Africans. They are always ready to kill
> > each other. Look at the genocide in Africa where one tribe slaughters
> > the other. It is just like Asia.
>
> It was not very long ago, you Americans and other Allies killed bunch of
> Germans and each other including Jews and Polishes and Russians.
Humans often kill humans.
> Funny, this idiot has short term memory loss or something.
The guy you're responding to is a troll who simply posts outrageous off the
wall lies and absurdities.
I suspect he has a self-esteem problem. Don't let his type bother you.
Charley Brown & Snoopy
used these to kick people with in WW2, I figured I need a set of these
boots and found some repo's for $175 bucks
I admire the IJA during WW2 they didn't fool around. I yell Bonzai when I
am ready to get some with my JP gf here.
I suggest that we all just get along, to promote this wonderful "love" I
will promote diversity with both Jp and Korean babes.
"Supertech" <ejo...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
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Charley Brown & Snoopy
This is why I promote peace and diversity, Asian babes or all backgrounds
excite me.
Someone has to do it...
"Supertech" <ejo...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
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Kaz
> Kaz, come down man. You are making a huge bubble in your mouth. Not a very
> good picture to look at.
>
> If you hate Tokyo japs, fine, but I don't think you should hate Koreans.
> Baikje people are kind of different in characters. At least that's how
> average Koreans feel. They have been mistreated when Shilla unified the
> peninsula. But Shilla should not have unified Korea. Kokuryo should have.
>
> I'm not a huge advocate of Shilla having become the final winner in the
> unification of Korean peninsula which is not the unification at all.
>
> Being a native member of a northern province, I tend to think Shilla did
> many disservice to Korean people in general. They lost Kokuryo and
> introduced China to kill their own people.
>
> Do not assume that every Koreans think the same way.
>
> But that still doesn't give any excuse to many plundering that Wae did on
> the southern shores of Korean peninsula.
I don't like tokyojaps because they are quite ugly and cruel
ethnocentric racists.
So if Koreans discriminate people in Juranamdo and Cheju island so
badly, they just look the same as those ugly tokyojap racists who have
silly self-conscious over-confidence.
Nevertheless, I think many northern Koreans, which I state as
Hun-Koreans hate those Shilla folks in Juranamdo.
You should be aware that many people from Cheju island and Juranamdo
had immigrated to Kansai to flee from the abuse and discrimination by
northern Koreans.
Many of them even immigrated to the US to flee from your northern
Korean severe discrimination against them, such as treating them as
"pekchon" class, the slave class people.
You had stated that all japs are the same. So you will treat us badly
as worse as you treat those ugly cruel tokyojaps
John R. Yamamoto- Wilson
> "subhuman", isn't it?
Not at all. For a start, my wife is Japanese and my child is as much
Japanese as British, and anyone who calls either of them subhuman had better
prepare for the consequences. Anyway, what do you know of my racial and
cultural background?
There is subhuman behaviour among whites, too, Kaz (try the Ku Klux Klan,
for example), just as there is highly evolved and admirable behaviour among
Koreans and Japanese and all other people. It's just that you and Supertech
are not exhibiting such behaviour (though Supertech, I've noticed, has tried
to make some conciliatory gestures towards you and get a proper dialogue
going, which you have refused to respond to).
> And everything the subhuman says would be drivel
> for you isn't it?
Not at all. We are not talking about the words of such sages as Lao Tse,
Shinran Shonin, Fu-Kian and Hakushu, people who raised and ennobled the very
meaning of what it is to be human. We are talking about *this* (mixed
together this time, so you can see how it's all exactly the same drivel):
> > Ignorant sslgae ppazin nom.
> > ugly retarded barbarians
> > You are one ignorant low life shit.
> > former slaves who have a lot of ugly hatred
> > stupid idiot
> > deformed Hun-gooks
> > You don't know a shit
> > stinking Hun-gook
> > Wae's are animals
> > gook barbarians
> > ignorant Ssangnom, Eunuch.
> > primitive beast with a full of hatred and inferiority complex
> > filthy fucking animals fucking in the middle of the street.
> > you Hun-gook land should be punished
> > Ok Idiot Doo Whan
Do you really think that anyone who *respects* Asian culture could respect
*that*? Do you really think that anyone who refuses to accept that kind of
language is a racist? Do you really think these words stand alongside those
of the great sages, or that if they were alive today they would praise your
words?
And, just for the record, I never called you subhuman and do not consider
you to be subhuman. It is your *behaviour right now* that I consider
subhuman. You have the *power* to act like decent human beings any time you
choose, but instead the two of you are like dogs going for each other's
throats. The colour of your skin has nothing to do with it.
> Kevin Gowen's post is much better than your sick
> self-esteemed offensive racist's post though.
Well, I said it was a "Nice one!" and you disagreed. Have you changed your
mind?
.
But why waste words on you? Only someone truly blind would fail to see the
irony of ranting on about "stinking Hun-gooks" and "retarded barbarians" and
then calling someone *else* a racist!
No, Kaz. Try again. Everything you've said so far would be drivel whether
the people saying it were white or yellow or sky-blue pink. That has nothing
to do with where you were born, what culture you come from, or what language
you speak. That is just where you have sunk to. Just as there is nothing
more similar to a Serb than a Croat, nothing more similar to an Ulster
Protestant than an Ulster Catholic, nothing more similar to a Futu than a
Tutsi, so there is nothing more similar to you than Supertech. To anyone but
yourselves, you are the perfect mirror image of each other.
Jürgen Hubert
Enoch in You wrote:
> Superkech, you are on incredibly stupid person.
>
> I don't see any difference between you and the chinamen.
>
> "Supertech" <ejo...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:PUfya.30269$ql5.1...@twister.austin.rr.com...
>
>>Koreans do not hate Midgets.
Oh, get a life, all of you.
Preferably, get it somewhere other than soc.culture.german.
--
- Jürgen Hubert
Scientist. Soldier. Barkeeper.
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> Japanese are generally stupid and domicile ....
"domicile" ????
USA
"Supertech" <ejo...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
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easily
> make them to do what you want. That's how the Emperor could manipulate
them
> to go into the chimney of an armada ship.
>
> But Koreans can always be on top of your head for you to like them.
>
> They are intimidating.
>
> But they can like you, just like watching an animal in a zoo.
>
>
>
The word is "docile" you fucking racist retard.
Go learn some English before you post your racist crap.
BTW, there a a few million Chinese who would probably disagree
with your idiotic "docile" statement.
So just shut your stinking anal orifice and stop disgracing Korean people!
USA
> Where do you think Japs got any taste of the continental culture? From
your
> northern chimpanzees?
>
They certainly didn't get the taste for dog meat.
Enoch in You
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He is a devil, always saying slanderous things.
Enoch in You
John Yamamoto-Wilson
> Supertech, I've noticed, has tried
> to make some conciliatory gestures towards you and get a proper dialogue
> going, which you have refused to respond to.
At that time my server had not picked up your latest posting in reply to
Supertech, which is much more like what I would consider a "proper dialogue"
than all the insults which came before.
Raymond Luxury-Yacht
> Japanese are generally stupid and domicile as an individual. You can easily
> make them to do what you want. That's how the Emperor could manipulate them
> to go into the chimney of an armada ship.
Stupid NK commie racist.
> But Koreans can always be on top of your head for you to like them.
Like a monkey?
> They are intimidating.
Just the smell from their ox, infreqent bathing and kimchee.
> But they can like you, just like watching an animal in a zoo.
>
A little commie monkey like this.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/780000/images/_783966_kimjngil150.jpg
A family of commie monkeys.
http://image.pathfinder.com/time/asia/magazine/2002/0218/kim_family.jpg
Docky Wocky
I thought Kim Jong Il might have neglected to procreate his immediate
successor.
Remember, he's only 15,000,000 degrees away from being no pest at all.
Docky Wocky
" Japanese are generally stupid and domicile as an individual. You can
easily
> make them to do what you want. That's how the Emperor could manipulate
them
> to go into the chimney of an armada ship..."
_____________________________
"domicile"...?
John Yamamoto-Wilson
> know that?
No, Kaz. Some white colonialist saying "Hey, you, boy!" to a "colored" adult
is quite different from someone calling an adult "boy" because he is
behaving childishly. I would say the same to any adult, white, yellow, black
or sky-blue pink.
> Stop making people sick, you real boy. If you don't like, you don't
> have to read it. No one is slandering you, or slandering your ethnic
> so you can just pass them.
But you are broadcasting your remarks in a public forum. If you don't want
others to read what you have written, don't post it here. But if you do post
it here just accept that others have every right to comment.
> Your humanity is the worst. Glimpsing the ugly attitudes of a sick
> self-esteemed racist even make me sick more than Supertech's stupid
> posts do.
All right then, Kaz. Let us suppose you are right. Let us suppose I am
racist.
But I do not *want* to be racist. I want to learn. Will you allow me to try
to learn from you?
According to you I am racist if I say the following is subhuman drivel:
> > ugly retarded barbarians
> > former slaves who have a lot of ugly hatred
> > deformed Hun-gooks
> > stinking Hun-gook
> > gook barbarians
> > primitive beast with a full of hatred and inferiority complex
> > you Hun-gook land should be punished.
>
> > Ignorant sslgae ppazin nom.
> > stupid idiot
> > You don't know a shit
> > ignorant Ssangnom, Eunuch.
> > filthy fucking animals fucking in the middle of the street.
> > You are one ignorant low life shit.
> > Wae's are animals
> > Ok Idiot Doo Whan
Therefore, in order not to be racist, I will not say it is subhuman drivel.
I will say instead that it is all perfectly true. Furthermore, I will say
that anyone who denies that the Koreans are ugly barbarians, etc., or that
Waes are animals, etc., is a racist.
Is that better, Kaz? Are you happy now?
Supertech
be from Junrado. But he did not like the people from his own province. But I
think the whole thing started from Shilla being the winner in the struggle
at the time of three Kingdoms. And this trend may have been transferred to
Koryo dynasty.
And the high level scholars who lost the power struggle from inside the
government were sent to Jechudo as a *reward* as a price of saving their
lives, so Jechudo has become a kind of prison camp at the time of Chosun
dynasty.
Those people sent there were brightest intellectuals and visionaries at the
time. The conservative party could not stand those people with new and
better ideas. They sent them to Junranamdo or Jechudo and that's how Chosun
got behind Japan.
It's nice to hear the voice of the people who left Korea and decided to live
in Kansai. I can see the spirit of Koreans there actually. The hardship must
have been unbearable when they were sent to Jechudo. But who would have
known the background story behind it until you speak up.
Because they tried to forget about those people they sent to Jechudo or the
people living in those areas in general from the whole history.
If Enoch has come up with such a story from the beginning, I would have
understood his position better.
Yes, Chosun dynasty had a lot of hypocrisies within, that normally follows
such kind of high morality. Pretty much like that of Jews. I never said the
application of Confucian philosophy by Chosun dynasty was a perfect one.
Their system discriminated a lot of lower class people.
Your ancestors have nothing to do with Wae pirates that frequently plundered
southern shores of Korean peninsula.
So, you ARE a Korean just happened to live in Kansai.
I'm wondering if they speak Korean in those area of Kansai? Seems a little
bit different in pronunciation though.
"Kaz" <k...@ivebeenframed.com> wrote in message
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Supertech
Kaz
Why do you so care about such things happened in the medieval era?
Have your humanity been stopped evolving ever since the medieval era?
Instead of those pirates in the medieval, why don't you just care
about nice girls?
> So, you ARE a Korean just happened to live in Kansai.
No, I'm 100% Japanese. I'm just trying to get along well with those
Korean residents in my hometown and that's all. There are the more
friendly Koreans from Juranamdo and Cheju island than those North
Koreans so I automatically speak for them.
> I'm wondering if they speak Korean in those area of Kansai? Seems a little
> bit different in pronunciation though.
Only the first generation speak Korean. And most of 2nds and 3rds
don't.
Supertech
Yes it concerns me somehow.
There is a lot of people who don't know what happened exactly.
It means there was pretty close relations between Japan and Korea than
people normally think.
My guess was right, people went there because there was political and class
conflicts.
Otherwise risking life to go there does not make sense.
Nice girls? Girls are not everything in man's life.
> > So, you ARE a Korean just happened to live in Kansai.
>
> No, I'm 100% Japanese. I'm just trying to get along well with those
> Korean residents in my hometown and that's all. There are the more
> friendly Koreans from Juranamdo and Cheju island than those North
> Koreans so I automatically speak for them.
Do you and your friends talk about those things all the time?
I mean you guys have been bad mouthing Koreans behind their back all those
years?
> > I'm wondering if they speak Korean in those area of Kansai? Seems a
little
> > bit different in pronunciation though.
>
> Only the first generation speak Korean. And most of 2nds and 3rds
> don't.
I guess some of the vocabularies may be mixed and those words like
Junranamdo is not usually easy to pronounce by native Japanese tongue.
Kyoskyu
> To even attempt to make a comparison between a world power like the United
> States and
> a small colony like Korea is totally idiotic.
> Only a moron would even suggest it.
Does it matter that one is a "world power" and the other is not? It's
about the justice of such actions.
The only reason I apply the Japanese actions against Korea to the United
States is to illustrate that if it's not acceptable to one nation, it
shouldn't be acceptable to another . . . especially since this person
portrays themselves as a neutral American.
And come to think of it, one sign of idiocy is to make statements that are
totally irrelevant to the conversation (or the direction of the
conversation) at hand.
USA
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Pretty funny looking at PBs blood pressure going up.You are right "docile" but you got my point right? It's called reading between the lines.
GO LEARN SOME ENGLISH YOU IDIOT!!It's not called "reading between the lines" moron, it's called knowing what youare talking about.
I was trying to point out the simple fact that Japs do not have the ability to judge wrong and right by their own. Someone in the above has to tell it for them. That's why they can be manipulated easily. You may call it hive mentality.
It is also called ORGANIZATION, and goes quite a way in explaining how a backward feudal country in 1860 couldalready have built at modern navy and defeated a Caucasian Country in a war in 1904.This is the kind of organization, will, motivation and performasnce that KOREA has nevert shown.Is it possible? Sure it is, with a unified democratic Korea. But IDIOTS like you stand in the wayof that happening.
I can personally like them true.
Who cares? You are dog shit. I'll bet most japanese like South Koreans. But they would allhate a fucking racist moron liked you.
But Koreans are different. They are very individual. So, you shouldn't be trying to make nonsense in front of any one of them. When they fight, there are clear reasons behind it.That was my original point.
Yea yea...Koreans are the special chosen people....you sound just like every dictator with a racial superiority theory.FAct is, if Koreans are so great, why are they not now??
I know KAZ and Enoch are not native Japs because of the way they respond to my post.That's the Korean spirit.
How many times do I have to tell you to stop saying jap??Racism has no loyality, it can turn on anyone. And that includesFlat faced-Garlic smelling-Dog eating- GOOKS like you asshole.
USA
"Kyoskyu" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Nothing wrong in using an analogy, but if you think for a moment that "all
countries are equal"
in the real world and therefore totally interchangable for the sake of
argument, you are
completely wrong. Your analogy was absurd because you don't realize this.