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Warming up the NG: new rules of IJF competitions

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Jigotai

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2002/12/06 7:16:592002/12/06
To:
As you will know, I am spanish, nidan and referee (so good referee :-) ). I
would like to now your impressions about the changes of the rules of
comeptitions. Since JEJU games, some things have change in refereeing and I
would like to know if this rules have been introduced in your countries.

The most important changes, for me, that both chui and keikoku disappear as
sanction. Only shido (soft sanction) and hansokumake (hard sanction) remains
as sanction. Soft sanctions are when there are any infraction of the combat
tactics (false attack, lack of combativity, pocket catching, gun catching,
do-jime, defensive attitude, etc...). Hard sanctions are when there are some
danger for personal integrity of any of contestants and/or is against the
Spirit of Judo (doing Kawazu-gake, doing kansetsu-waza anywhere but elbow,
do not hearing referee instructions, etc...). Now, shido is the only
sanctino that we could hear during a combat. A shido will be a koka for the
opponent; two shidos, a yuko; three shidos, a waza-ari. The next shido will
be be automatically a hansokumake for infractor (four shidos = ippon).
Anyway, a hansokumake can be called in any moment of the combat.


As far as ritsurei is concerned, IJF has proposed that both contestant only
have to do "rei" when they are on their combat position and under the
control of the referee. If a contestant doesn't do "ritsurei" Referee should
"invite" (calling "rei!") to do it. Ritsurei when contestant go in on combat
zone are not required.

Other change is about "medical calling". When some contestant needs medical
assistance, chair referees will stay on their chairs controlling all
situation. Only central referee will stay near injured contestant and
doctor. If needed, central referee can call both chair referees.

Comments will be wllecome.


Personally, I haven't done no competition with this new rules. I think I
will have some problems with news concepts. I will begin the refereeing
season on january, because here in Spain, senior competitio are on novembre
and december (even on january as Spanish Championships). I do not referee
this competitions yet. U23 is the highest cathegory I have been as referee.
I hope I can be on a senior competition on december next year.

Best regards

Angel (Spain)
Nidan

J.Dijksman

未読、
2002/12/06 9:11:032002/12/06
To:

"Jigotai" <ji...@ono.es> schreef in bericht
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> As you will know, I am spanish, nidan and referee (so good referee :-) ).
I
> would like to now your impressions about the changes of the rules of
> comeptitions. Since JEJU games, some things have change in refereeing and
I
> would like to know if this rules have been introduced in your countries.

Angel as far as these rules concern, they are not officially yet but the are
on trail as I'm informed by the dutch Judo association.
So they are not yet used in judging at the moment here. IJF has done that
more lately, and used European championchips and other international A-class
tournaments for this tests.


>
> The most important changes, for me, that both chui and keikoku disappear
as
> sanction. Only shido (soft sanction) and hansokumake (hard sanction)
remains
> as sanction. Soft sanctions are when there are any infraction of the
combat
> tactics (false attack, lack of combativity, pocket catching, gun catching,
> do-jime, defensive attitude, etc...). Hard sanctions are when there are
some
> danger for personal integrity of any of contestants and/or is against the
> Spirit of Judo (doing Kawazu-gake, doing kansetsu-waza anywhere but elbow,
> do not hearing referee instructions, etc...). Now, shido is the only
> sanctino that we could hear during a combat. A shido will be a koka for
the
> opponent; two shidos, a yuko; three shidos, a waza-ari. The next shido
will
> be be automatically a hansokumake for infractor (four shidos = ippon).
> Anyway, a hansokumake can be called in any moment of the combat.
>

I think this is a good change in order to make the sanctions and the
counting of changes for the spectators more transparant. For the referee I
think the decision which sanction to give is more natural, and by that wil
be easier as with the shido, chui, keikoku situation now.


>
> As far as ritsurei is concerned, IJF has proposed that both contestant
only
> have to do "rei" when they are on their combat position and under the
> control of the referee. If a contestant doesn't do "ritsurei" Referee
should
> "invite" (calling "rei!") to do it. Ritsurei when contestant go in on
combat
> zone are not required.

I think this is a pity, for it is one of the charmes of Judo to show your
respect and honest intentions by to do rei at entering and leaving the dojo
and the tatami. I know I'm some what traditional here, but lately we have
seen some movement in IJF to to using rei.


>
> Other change is about "medical calling". When some contestant needs
medical
> assistance, chair referees will stay on their chairs controlling all
> situation. Only central referee will stay near injured contestant and
> doctor. If needed, central referee can call both chair referees.

I think this a good ruling. at present it becomes a bit crowded when all
referees come on the tatami around the injured player. In this situation the
central referee can give his full attention to the situation around the
injury and the chair referees can give thier attention to the other
contestor and situations around the tatami to keep good order and quick
action for resolving the problem.


>
> Comments will be wllecome.
>
>
> Personally, I haven't done no competition with this new rules. I think I
> will have some problems with news concepts. I will begin the refereeing
> season on january, because here in Spain, senior competitio are on
novembre
> and december (even on january as Spanish Championships). I do not referee
> this competitions yet. U23 is the highest cathegory I have been as
referee.
> I hope I can be on a senior competition on december next year.
>
> Best regards
>
> Angel (Spain)
> Nidan
>

Angel I neither did any ruling based on this new rules. So every thing I
wrote above is just my feeling about the impact on the sport. I myself are a
sho dan and C-class referee. This meens that I act on regional tournaments
for youth til about 20 years. By that I'm way back from senior ruling, but
stil these youth contests are prity heavy too and give me a good feeling in
contributing to the Judo sport fore those that mostly wil never reach
national or higher noveau in competition, but just have fun in doing there
Judo.

Best regards

Julius (Holland)
Shodan

Jigotai

未読、
2002/12/06 9:48:042002/12/06
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> Angel as far as these rules concern, they are not officially yet but the
are
> on trail as I'm informed by the dutch Judo association.
> So they are not yet used in judging at the moment here. IJF has done that
> more lately, and used European championchips and other international
A-class
> tournaments for this tests.

Really. In Spain, we referees had to do a little meeting in order to be
informed about the changes. From october, the rules are been used on the U23
championships and are going to be used at nex regional senior competitions
(in my region, championships are going to be hold on next weekend). I ask
for the reason that Spain has adopted these changes instead of they are not
accepted by IJF members yet (as Dutch federation).

Best regards

Angel


J.Dijksman

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2002/12/06 9:50:552002/12/06
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"Jigotai" <ji...@ono.es> schreef in bericht
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Angel
Our seson is almost done if not yet so. I know we have a meting in January
maybe IJF has already made rules official in their last meeting. ahn do we
hear that in January. But I think it is good to ask the quwstion.

best regards


Julius

Jigotai

未読、
2002/12/10 3:11:132002/12/10
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"J.Dijksman" <j.dij...@ngi.nl> escribió en el mensaje
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> >
> Angel
> Our seson is almost done if not yet so. I know we have a meting in
January
> maybe IJF has already made rules official in their last meeting. ahn do we
> hear that in January. But I think it is good to ask the quwstion.

I asked about it. European championships are in february and it is going to
use new rules. So, in my humble opinion, Spanish federation did well to
change rules on october. In this way, competitors will go the European
knowing about the changes. That could be important for combat tactics, I
think. Both senior Spanish Championships on january and regional
championships on december are with these new rules.

Best regards

Angel


J.Dijksman

未読、
2002/12/10 18:10:552002/12/10
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"Jigotai" <ji...@ono.es> schreef in bericht
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Angel,

I do agree with you that this is good strategics for top judoka's. I think
that dutch top judoka wil face the same rules in the dutch championchips at
A-class level. But we at regional level wil always follow behind.

best regards

Julius

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