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MatthewOutland

未読、
2003/07/06 2:11:092003/07/06
To:
When I went to japan, most japanese were courteous to tourists and had
black hair.


In american university, most japanese I met were rude, racist
copycats.

I know I sound like I am trolling, but I am kinda serious. I see
effette dorks, punk or black wannabes, and nearly all were kinpatsu
or chapatsu, and dressed in a ridiculously exxagerated american
fashion(Cheap shirts and faded jeans).

Most japanese, even the majority of young ones in japan are not like
this. Why are they like this in american universities?

Eric Takabayashi

未読、
2003/07/06 2:25:442003/07/06
To:
MatthewOutland wrote:

> When I went to japan, most japanese were courteous to tourists and had
> black hair.

Same here.

> In american university, most japanese I met were rude, racist
> copycats.

Because there were so few who could meet the language requirements to
actually enter the university, maybe I knew one girl from Okinawa. She
looked and acted like a mixed race Japanese American, and spoke native
level English, but she was so ignorant of American ways that she said one
friend deliberately convinced her that it was alright to eat fruit at the
produce section in the store, so she did so.

> I know I sound like I am trolling, but I am kinda serious. I see
> effette dorks, punk or black wannabes, and nearly all were kinpatsu
> or chapatsu, and dressed in a ridiculously exxagerated american
> fashion(Cheap shirts and faded jeans).
>
> Most japanese, even the majority of young ones in japan are not like
> this. Why are they like this in american universities?

Could it be that Japanese who go through the bother of studying enough to
actually enter a foreign university may do so because *gasp* they might
have some interest in the culture, or have acquired some of the culture
along the way? I know some Japanese who've gone to school or spent years
abroad. They may not look it, but they are not your average Japanese. The
most extreme case was one boy who lived in the US from the age of 1 1/2
to eight. He *was* an American kid, for all I could see. I wonder what he
does in English class back in Japan.

Kaz

未読、
2003/07/06 4:52:322003/07/06
To:
matthewo...@yahoo.com (MatthewOutland) wrote in message news:<52210046.03070...@posting.google.com>...

> Most japanese, even the majority of young ones in japan are not like
> this. Why are they like this in american universities?

Simply, becuase they are American-wannabes. And they are so stupid and
they misthink that Americans are rude, racists, and kinpatsu.

Michael Cash

未読、
2003/07/06 6:40:252003/07/06
To:
On 5 Jul 2003 23:11:09 -0700, matthewo...@yahoo.com
(MatthewOutland) belched the alphabet and kept on going with:

>When I went to japan, most japanese were courteous to tourists

They do that so they don't confused with the French.

>and had black hair.

You came to Japan over a decade ago?


>
>
>In american university, most japanese I met were rude, racist
>copycats.
>
>
>
>I know I sound like I am trolling, but I am kinda serious. I see
>effette dorks, punk or black wannabes, and nearly all were kinpatsu
>or chapatsu, and dressed in a ridiculously exxagerated american
>fashion(Cheap shirts and faded jeans).

I did my fair share of trying to explain to my fellow rural
Tennesseans at university that just because a Japanese guy wore faggy
looking clothes and used an Anpanman pencil case didn't necessarily
mean he was homosexual.


--

Michael Cash

"There was a time, Mr. Cash, when I believed you must be the most useless
thing in the world. But that was before I read a Microsoft help file."

Prof. Ernest T. Bass
Mount Pilot College


http://www.sunfield.ne.jp/~mike/

John Yamamoto-Wilson

未読、
2003/07/06 10:00:382003/07/06
To:
Matthew Outland wrote:

> > When I went to japan, most japanese were courteous to tourists and had
> > black hair.
>
> > In american university, most japanese I met were rude, racist
> > copycats.

> [snip]


> > Most japanese, even the majority of young ones in japan are not like
> > this. Why are they like this in american universities?

Kaz wrote:

> Simply, becuase they are American-wannabes. And they are so stupid and
> they misthink that Americans are rude, racists, and kinpatsu.

Eric Takabayashi wrote:

> Could it be that Japanese who go through the bother of studying enough to
> actually enter a foreign university may do so because *gasp* they might
> have some interest in the culture, or have acquired some of the culture
> along the way?

So, you see, Kaz, even though they may be "American-wannabes", they are not
stupid. They have not got it wrong - they have merely "acquired some of the
culture" - Americans are indeed rude, racists and kinpatsu! (Eric evidently
is no cutlural ambassador.)

Working in language schools in the UK one aspect of the job was a
recognition of the fact that young people from restrictive environments
being let off the leash was likely to result in a certain number of them
going over the top. (Incidentally, that can apply to Westerners in Asia in
certain circumstances.) Once free of the "straitjacket", it is only to be
expected that they will go to the other extreme. I watched a Japanese girl
put her feet up on the opposite seat of a British Rail train with such
studied and self-conscious delight ("I can *do* this! I can *get away* with
it!!") that I'm pretty sure this is at least part of the reason.

--
John
http://rarebooksinjapan.com

Michael Cash

未読、
2003/07/06 11:11:532003/07/06
To:
On Sun, 6 Jul 2003 23:00:38 +0900, "John Yamamoto-Wilson"
<jo...@rarebooksinjapan.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going
with:

>Americans are indeed rude, racists and kinpatsu!

There ain't no way that I'm ever gonna love you. But don't be sad.

mr.sumo snr.

未読、
2003/07/06 11:42:212003/07/06
To:
"Michael Cash" <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> wrote in message
news:70vfgvgbi9skn8vj7...@4ax.com...

> I did my fair share of trying to explain to my fellow rural
> Tennesseans at university that just because a Japanese guy wore faggy
> looking clothes and used an Anpanman pencil case didn't necessarily
> mean he was homosexual.

...just part of the silent majority.

jonathan


Ryan Ginstrom

未読、
2003/07/06 12:54:202003/07/06
To:

"John Yamamoto-Wilson" <jo...@rarebooksinjapan.com> wrote in message
news:be9aee$2bhh2$1@ID-

> Americans are indeed rude, racists and kinpatsu!

I'm not kinpatsu.

--
Regards,
Ryan Ginstrom

Michael Cash

未読、
2003/07/06 15:27:132003/07/06
To:
On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 00:42:21 +0900, "mr.sumo snr."
<mr_...@hotmail.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going with:

The Effete Elite, to be sure. What's strange is that a lot of these
guys would have passed for relatively macho in Japan.

John R. Yamamoto- Wilson

未読、
2003/07/06 19:28:312003/07/06
To:
I said:

> >Americans are indeed rude, racists and kinpatsu!

Michael Cash responded:

> There ain't no way that I'm ever gonna love you. But don't be sad.

Hey, I was only putting Eric's two and Kaz's two together to make an
incontrovertible four!

Anyway, I would be most alarmed if a fat slob like you loved me. The closest
you'll ever get is loving to hate me, and you've got to admit, that's a
whole lot more fun! ;-)

--
John
http://rarebooksinjapan.com

Display Name

未読、
2003/07/06 19:48:152003/07/06
To:
They're spoiled brats? Japanese kids going to school in the US come from
families in that tax bracket above most of the others, including those
japanese kids who go to college in japan...
Rich kids, not having a lot of character, also usually have to try harder
for a sense of identity (overblown style)
Just a guess.

"MatthewOutland" <matthewo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:52210046.03070...@posting.google.com...

Declan Murphy

未読、
2003/07/06 22:53:082003/07/06
To:
John R. Yamamoto- Wilson wrote:
> I said:
>
>>>Americans are indeed rude, racists and kinpatsu!
>
> Michael Cash responded:
>
>>There ain't no way that I'm ever gonna love you. But don't be sad.
>
> Hey, I was only putting Eric's two and Kaz's two together to make an
> incontrovertible four!

It is a source of great comfort to see that while references to the
works of Charles Dickens fly right by Kevin, references to Meatloaf fly
right past you. :-)


--
"Forget Spanish. There's nothing in that language worth reading except
Don Quixote, and a quick listen to the CD of Man of La Mancha will take
care of that. Who speaks it that you are really desperate to talk to?
The help? Your leaf blower? Study French or German, where there are at
least a few books worth reading, or if you're American, try English."

Dame Edna Everage

"If you have to explain satire to someone, you might as well give up,"

Barry Humphries

John R. Yamamoto- Wilson

未読、
2003/07/06 23:34:102003/07/06
To:
Declan Murphy wrote:

> It is a source of great comfort to see that while references to the
> works of Charles Dickens fly right by Kevin, references to Meatloaf fly
> right past you. :-)

It *did* fly right past me, but there must have been some resonance on the
outer fringes of consciousness, as I just told Eric:

> at least I scored one out of three.

obakesan

未読、
2003/07/07 0:23:292003/07/07
To:
HiYa

In article <u0fggvsj7jvi28934...@4ax.com>, Michael Cash

<mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> wrote:
>On Sun, 6 Jul 2003 23:00:38 +0900, "John Yamamoto-Wilson"
><jo...@rarebooksinjapan.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going
>with:
>
>>Americans are indeed rude, racists and kinpatsu!
>
>There ain't no way that I'm ever gonna love you. But don't be sad.

meat loaf!

2 out of 3 ain't bad


See Ya
(when bandwidth gets better ;-)

Chris Eastwood

we tend to blame others for our problems
I think this is something we inherit from our parents

please remove undies for reply

Kaz

未読、
2003/07/07 1:18:092003/07/07
To:
Michael Cash <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> wrote in message news:<u0fggvsj7jvi28934...@4ax.com>...

> On Sun, 6 Jul 2003 23:00:38 +0900, "John Yamamoto-Wilson"
> <jo...@rarebooksinjapan.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going
> with:
>
> >Americans are indeed rude, racists and kinpatsu!
>
> There ain't no way that I'm ever gonna love you. But don't be sad.

The Chiquitita Swedes traveling or staying in America for a while are
even more rude, racists and crasy than those Japanese students in
American colleges. I think being expats makes people more rude and
crasy than staying in their homeland because nobody is watching them,
they don't know the American society, so they feel very free and
released from any kind of obligation. Most of them don't know what the
hell they are doing. Many of them are stupidly believing that they can
do anything in America because it's the land of freedom or something.
Many of those young Chiquitita people in America are alcoholics
drinking beers and whiskey from the daytime, never change their
clothes, don't take shower much so they just look like bums. And they
are quite racists just like those Japanese students. I saw several
young Chiquititas abusively talking to African Americans walking on
streets in NYC, and making trouble with them. They don't respect any
colored Americans. Well, they can abuse me because I'was a foregner in
America but they should not abuse a person like Eric who is American
citizen, but they do. They only respect White Americans. They believe
that White Americans are the only Americans. I know Steave is American
but his name reminded me those improvised Chiquitita racists from the
frozen land. Also, I've seen several German girls working in such peep
show things in Times Square, an "illegal alien" British woman standing
on a corner of the 8th avenue, accosted me like "Hey 50 dollars".
Conclusion: No matter what her ethnic is, expats tend to become more
rude and antisocial than the cases they are in their own country.

Brett Robson

未読、
2003/07/07 1:07:042003/07/07
To:
On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 04:23:29 GMT, cjundie...@powerup.com.au ...

>
>HiYa
>
>In article <u0fggvsj7jvi28934...@4ax.com>, Michael Cash
><mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> wrote:
>>On Sun, 6 Jul 2003 23:00:38 +0900, "John Yamamoto-Wilson"
>><jo...@rarebooksinjapan.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going
>>with:
>>
>>>Americans are indeed rude, racists and kinpatsu!
>>
>>There ain't no way that I'm ever gonna love you. But don't be sad.
>
>meat loaf!
>
>2 out of 3 ain't bad
>
>

but 1 of of 2^1024 is a real bitch.

---
"he [John Ashcroft] deliberately left Jesus out of office prayers to avoid
offending non-Christians." - Ben Shapiro 27/2/2003

Kaz

未読、
2003/07/07 1:36:082003/07/07
To:
"Kaz" <k...@ivebeenframed.com> wrote in message news:365fcc52.03070...@posting.google.com...

> Many of those young Chiquitita people in America are alcoholics
> drinking beers and whiskey from the daytime, never change their
> clothes, don't take shower much so they just look like bums.

Sepponians tend to overestimate and respect those Chiquitita folks,
but to me, their country is like the land of alcoholics, more than the
"Yopparai Heaven" Japan.

Ryan Ginstrom

未読、
2003/07/07 2:08:482003/07/07
To:

"Kaz" <k...@ivebeenframed.com> wrote in message
> Conclusion: No matter what her ethnic is, expats tend to become more
> rude and antisocial than the cases they are in their own country.

Oh yeah? Well fuck off then, you booska looking fuck.

--
Regards,
Ryan Ginstrom

Kaz

未読、
2003/07/07 6:26:062003/07/07
To:
"Ryan Ginstrom" <gins...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<beb2pq$32msr$1...@ID-101276.news.dfncis.de>...

Why are you mad at me?

Kaz

未読、
2003/07/07 8:56:082003/07/07
To:
"Dave Fossett" <re...@via.newsgroup> wrote in message news:VzdOa.264$FN4...@news1.dion.ne.jp...

> "Kaz" <k...@ivebeenframed.com> wrote:
>
> > "Ryan Ginstrom" <gins...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:<beb2pq$32msr$1...@ID-101276.news.dfncis.de>...
> > > "Kaz" <k...@ivebeenframed.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Conclusion: No matter what her ethnic is, expats tend to become more
> > > > rude and antisocial than the cases they are in their own country.
> > >
> > > Oh yeah? Well fuck off then, you booska looking fuck.
> >
> > Why are you mad at me?
>
> Go back and read what you wrote, Kaz.

What's wrong with it? I have no clue what's wrong.

Michael Cash

未読、
2003/07/07 9:09:032003/07/07
To:
On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 12:34:10 +0900, "John R. Yamamoto- Wilson"

<jo...@rarebooksinjapan.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going
with:

>Declan Murphy wrote:

I had you down for two. And, as you must have realized by now, two out
of three ain't bad.

Michael Cash

未読、
2003/07/07 9:09:592003/07/07
To:
On 6 Jul 2003 22:36:08 -0700, k...@ivebeenframed.com (Kaz) belched the

alphabet and kept on going with:

>"Kaz" <k...@ivebeenframed.com> wrote in message news:365fcc52.03070...@posting.google.com...

Actually, like most of the rest of the world, we tend to forget they
even exist.

John R. Yamamoto- Wilson

未読、
2003/07/07 9:23:082003/07/07
To:
> > > > > Conclusion: No matter what her ethnic is, expats tend to become
more
> > > > > rude and antisocial than the cases they are in their own country.
> > > >
> > > > Oh yeah? Well fuck off then, you booska looking fuck.
> > >
> > > Why are you mad at me?
> >
> > Go back and read what you wrote, Kaz.
>
> What's wrong with it? I have no clue what's wrong.

Nothing's wrong, Kaz; he's just an expat doing what you say expats tend to
do - being rude and antisocial!

--
John
http://rarebooksinjapan.com

Cindy

未読、
2003/07/07 10:54:572003/07/07
To:
Kaz wrote:

It will probably take your whole life time to prove your theory is
valid. Good luck.

Chulsoo Kim

未読、
2003/07/08 5:20:482003/07/08
To:
k...@ivebeenframed.com (Kaz) wrote in message news:<365fcc52.03070...@posting.google.com>...
> I have no clue.

.

John W.

未読、
2003/07/08 13:07:272003/07/08
To:
Michael Cash <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> wrote in message news:<fttggvgmufvffg1i9...@4ax.com>...

> On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 00:42:21 +0900, "mr.sumo snr."
> <mr_...@hotmail.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going with:
>
> >"Michael Cash" <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> wrote in message
> >news:70vfgvgbi9skn8vj7...@4ax.com...
> >
> >> I did my fair share of trying to explain to my fellow rural
> >> Tennesseans at university that just because a Japanese guy wore faggy
> >> looking clothes and used an Anpanman pencil case didn't necessarily
> >> mean he was homosexual.
> >
> >...just part of the silent majority.
>
> The Effete Elite, to be sure. What's strange is that a lot of these
> guys would have passed for relatively macho in Japan.
>
You mean like how a guy in Japan is cool and macho if he goes to get
manicures and has his eyebrows plucked?

John W.

Kaz

未読、
2003/07/09 1:28:022003/07/09
To:
"John R. Yamamoto- Wilson" <jo...@rarebooksinjapan.com> wrote in message news:<bebrv5$qt$1...@kanna.cc.sophia.ac.jp>...

I see, sorry Ryan, I didn't mean to be offensive to you. And I think
being an expat is not any bad thing. I think also expats often tend to
create great ideas developed from two cultures.

John Yamamoto-Wilson

未読、
2003/07/09 11:36:412003/07/09
To:
Kaz wrote:

> I see, sorry Ryan, I didn't mean to be offensive to you. And I think
> being an expat is not any bad thing. I think also expats often tend to
> create great ideas developed from two cultures.

Kaz, you're - what can I say? - really sweet sometimes. Heck, you don't need
to apologise to the guy. He was just pulling your leg!

--
John
http://rarebooksinjapan.com

Cindy

未読、
2003/07/09 15:10:522003/07/09
To:
Kaz wrote:

> I see, sorry Ryan, I didn't mean to be offensive to you. And I think
> being an expat is not any bad thing. I think also expats often tend to
> create great ideas developed from two cultures.

You must have seen a negative side of expats for sure. And as you see,
every coin has two sides. Have you ever thought of any reason why they
had to present themselves like that (rude and antisocial)?


Declan Murphy

未読、
2003/07/09 22:56:372003/07/09
To:

You mean it doesn't all stem from how Kaz woke up one morning while he
was an expat and realised that he was rude and antisocial?


--
"You call Donald Rumsfeld and tell him our sorry asses are ready to go
home." - Private First Class Matthew O'Dell

tee hee

http://www.coxar.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

Cindy

未読、
2003/07/09 23:12:522003/07/09
To:
Declan Murphy wrote:

> Cindy wrote:
>
>> Kaz wrote:
>>
>>> I see, sorry Ryan, I didn't mean to be offensive to you. And I think
>>> being an expat is not any bad thing. I think also expats often tend to
>>> create great ideas developed from two cultures.
>>
>>
>> You must have seen a negative side of expats for sure. And as you
>> see, every coin has two sides. Have you ever thought of any reason
>> why they had to present themselves like that (rude and antisocial)?
>
>
> You mean it doesn't all stem from how Kaz woke up one morning while he
> was an expat and realised that he was rude and antisocial?

This will explain a bit.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?J39215735

A long time ago, when I was not familiar with "expat". I thought it was
an abbreviation of ex-patriot. Now whichever they are, they are not
very happy people for sure. You got to sympathize with them.

Kaz

未読、
2003/07/09 23:17:172003/07/09
To:
Cindy <cind...@attb.com> wrote in message news:<0NZOa.16399$sY2....@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net>...

As a matter of fact, honestly, I rather envy to being an expat. Living
in one's own home city, or even in his own country for his whole
lifetime is often too stressful. Same faces, homogeneous culture, same
kind of people that he has to belong to all his life. It's too boring.
It often urges me to take off to someplace new to me.

Declan Murphy

未読、
2003/07/09 23:46:102003/07/09
To:
Cindy wrote:
> Declan Murphy wrote:

>> You mean it doesn't all stem from how Kaz woke up one morning while he
>> was an expat and realised that he was rude and antisocial?
>
> This will explain a bit.
>
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?J39215735
>
> A long time ago, when I was not familiar with "expat". I thought it was
> an abbreviation of ex-patriot.

Does that mean that the sepponian pronunciation of expatriate sounds
more like expaytriate?

Now whichever they are, they are not
> very happy people for sure. You got to sympathize with them.

Oh? Apart from losing a lot of money this year, I'm pretty happy with my
lot in life. I guess this disqualifies me from being an expat.

Cindy

未読、
2003/07/10 7:55:272003/07/10
To:
Kaz wrote:


> As a matter of fact, honestly, I rather envy to being an expat. Living
> in one's own home city, or even in his own country for his whole
> lifetime is often too stressful. Same faces, homogeneous culture, same
> kind of people that he has to belong to all his life. It's too boring.
> It often urges me to take off to someplace new to me.

I must say, get out and do it! You have lived in a foreign country,
haven't you?

Cindy

未読、
2003/07/10 7:59:242003/07/10
To:
Declan Murphy wrote:


> Does that mean that the sepponian pronunciation of expatriate sounds
> more like expaytriate?

No, it is called "misunderstanding".

> Now whichever they are, they are not
>
>> very happy people for sure. You got to sympathize with them.
>
>
> Oh? Apart from losing a lot of money this year, I'm pretty happy with my
> lot in life. I guess this disqualifies me from being an expat.

No, you are a happy expat.


Kaz

未読、
2003/07/10 18:23:242003/07/10
To:
Cindy <cind...@attb.com> wrote in message news:<PucPa.25684$Ph3.2185@sccrnsc04>...

> Kaz wrote:
>
>
> > As a matter of fact, honestly, I rather envy to being an expat. Living
> > in one's own home city, or even in his own country for his whole
> > lifetime is often too stressful. Same faces, homogeneous culture, same
> > kind of people that he has to belong to all his life. It's too boring.
> > It often urges me to take off to someplace new to me.
>
> I must say, get out and do it!

It's unrealistic and impracticable, though. There is no country I can
get a job or even get into there except doing farm work in Brazil or
something.

> You have lived in a foreign country,
> haven't you?

Only a few period. That would help nothing.

Dave Fossett

未読、
2003/07/10 19:06:062003/07/10
To:
"Kaz" <k...@ivebeenframed.com> wrote:

> It's unrealistic and impracticable, though. There is no country I can
> get a job or even get into there except doing farm work in Brazil or
> something.

Why is it unrealistic? What do you do in Japan?
You could always be Kinai cultural ambassador, or even open a Kinai
restaurant somewhere. ;-)

--
Dave Fossett
Saitama, Japan

Cindy

未読、
2003/07/10 21:11:432003/07/10
To:
Kaz wrote:


> It's unrealistic and impracticable, though. There is no country I can
> get a job or even get into there except doing farm work in Brazil or
> something.

Why don't you start from farm work? You can look for other employment
opportunity while working in a farm. Maybe you can go to school while
working. I don't think farm work is not that bad like you think. In
other word, you may like it. John Adams and Thomas Jefferson liked it.


John W.

未読、
2003/07/10 22:37:582003/07/10
To:

> As a matter of fact, honestly, I rather envy to being an expat. Living


> in one's own home city, or even in his own country for his whole
> lifetime is often too stressful. Same faces, homogeneous culture, same
> kind of people that he has to belong to all his life. It's too boring.
> It often urges me to take off to someplace new to me.

I'm a firm believer that everyone should spend at least a year of
their life away from home, ideally in another country. They should
live so far away that it's nearly impossible to come home within a
day, regardless of whether or not they have the means to do so.

John W.

Cindy

未読、
2003/07/11 0:06:402003/07/11
To:
Cindy wrote:

> I don't think farm work is not that bad like you think.

Correction of grammatical error:

I bet farm work is pretty good.

Daihard

未読、
2003/07/11 1:01:462003/07/11
To:
Kaz wrote:

> Cindy <cind...@attb.com> wrote...


>> Kaz wrote:
>>
>> > As a matter of fact, honestly, I rather envy to being an expat. Living
>> > in one's own home city, or even in his own country for his whole
>> > lifetime is often too stressful. Same faces, homogeneous culture, same
>> > kind of people that he has to belong to all his life. It's too boring.
>> > It often urges me to take off to someplace new to me.
>>
>> I must say, get out and do it!
>
> It's unrealistic and impracticable, though. There is no country I can
> get a job or even get into there except doing farm work in Brazil or
> something.

It's either you're terribly underestimating your own ability or you're
helplessly incapable. There are tens of thousands of Japanese people
working in, say, the U.S. I am sure just as many Japanese are working
under the "working holiday" program in countries like Canada, Australia and
New Zealand. It never hurts to try.

Dai

--
Daigoro F. Toyama
RLU #281828
KDE 3.0.5 / RedHat 7.3 (kernel 2.4.20-13)
Mozilla Firebird 0.6 (2003-07-02)

Kaz

未読、
2003/07/11 1:44:572003/07/11
To:
Cindy <cind...@attb.com> wrote in message news:<j9oPa.30436$Ph3.2394@sccrnsc04>...

> Kaz wrote:
>
>
> > It's unrealistic and impracticable, though. There is no country I can
> > get a job or even get into there except doing farm work in Brazil or
> > something.
>
> Why don't you start from farm work? You can look for other employment

Even many Japanese born in Brazil don't have any job there and they
are coming to Japan. I don't think there is even a farm work available
for me. And there is not any other opportunity of employment in Brazil
anyway. That country is in the deep shit.

> opportunity while working in a farm. Maybe you can go to school while
> working. I don't think farm work is not that bad like you think. In

I'm too old to attend in school.

> other word, you may like it. John Adams and Thomas Jefferson liked it.

If I leave Japan, I'd rather want to stay in Shanghai. Have you been
there? I want to stay there for a few years if I could.

Kaz

未読、
2003/07/11 1:52:202003/07/11
To:
"Dave Fossett" <re...@via.newsgroup> wrote in message news:<ammPa.400$FN4...@news1.dion.ne.jp>...

I'm not an expert of cooking. But I want to open Izakaya "Kaz's"
serving Ebisu beer in overseas, but I don't have that money.

Cindy

未読、
2003/07/11 7:34:582003/07/11
To:
Kaz wrote:

> I'm too old to attend in school.

"Student" is a good reason for the country to give you a permit or a
visa. Just FYI.


> If I leave Japan, I'd rather want to stay in Shanghai. Have you been
> there? I want to stay there for a few years if I could.


That would be nice. Although I have never been there, I have a
confidence to live there as well. I would like to try Pyongyang myself
if possible. It's very scary, though. Probably I would get chickened
out. It give me goose bumps just thinking about it.

John W.

未読、
2003/07/11 8:42:232003/07/11
To:
k...@ivebeenframed.com (Kaz) wrote in message news:<365fcc52.03071...@posting.google.com>...

Where overseas? The best Izakaya feature that I've ever seen was in
Korea, where the table had a tap with a meter on it. You literally
paid for what you drank (or at least what you got from the tap).

John W.

Declan Murphy

未読、
2003/07/11 11:20:112003/07/11
To:

Somewhere exotic would be a good idea, preferably a place where the
inhabitants love a drink. How about Casey or Heard?

http://www.antdiv.gov.au/

Kaz

未読、
2003/07/11 17:38:532003/07/11
To:
Declan Murphy <declan...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3F0ED5AB...@hotmail.com>...

> John W. wrote:
> > k...@ivebeenframed.com (Kaz) wrote in message news:<365fcc52.03071...@posting.google.com>...
> >
> >>"Dave Fossett" <re...@via.newsgroup> wrote in message news:<ammPa.400$FN4...@news1.dion.ne.jp>...
> >>
> >>>"Kaz" <k...@ivebeenframed.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>It's unrealistic and impracticable, though. There is no country I can
> >>>>get a job or even get into there except doing farm work in Brazil or
> >>>>something.
> >>>
> >>>Why is it unrealistic? What do you do in Japan?
> >>>You could always be Kinai cultural ambassador, or even open a Kinai
> >>>restaurant somewhere. ;-)
> >>
> >>I'm not an expert of cooking. But I want to open Izakaya "Kaz's"
> >>serving Ebisu beer in overseas, but I don't have that money.
> >
> > Where overseas? The best Izakaya feature that I've ever seen was in
> > Korea, where the table had a tap with a meter on it. You literally
> > paid for what you drank (or at least what you got from the tap).
>
> Somewhere exotic would be a good idea, preferably a place where the
> inhabitants love a drink. How about Casey or Heard?
>
> http://www.antdiv.gov.au/

Probably they are tired of seeing ice, so they won't prefer chilled
Ebisu. Warmed Shochu would be nice for them.

Kaz

未読、
2003/07/11 18:24:342003/07/11
To:
Daihard <daiha...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message news:<_wrPa.31903$Ph3.2767@sccrnsc04>...

> Kaz wrote:
>
> > Cindy <cind...@attb.com> wrote...
> >> Kaz wrote:
> >>
> >> > As a matter of fact, honestly, I rather envy to being an expat. Living
> >> > in one's own home city, or even in his own country for his whole
> >> > lifetime is often too stressful. Same faces, homogeneous culture, same
> >> > kind of people that he has to belong to all his life. It's too boring.
> >> > It often urges me to take off to someplace new to me.
> >>
> >> I must say, get out and do it!
> >
> > It's unrealistic and impracticable, though. There is no country I can
> > get a job or even get into there except doing farm work in Brazil or
> > something.
>
> It's either you're terribly underestimating your own ability or you're
> helplessly incapable. There are tens of thousands of Japanese people
> working in, say, the U.S. I am sure just as many Japanese are working
> under the "working holiday" program in countries like Canada, Australia and
> New Zealand. It never hurts to try.

All you want to say is that someone who is not allowed to live or work
in the US, Canada, Australia, or New Zealand is "helplessly
incapable", and that's it. What a biased, a narrow-minded ugly point
of view from a sick honorary white racist. There are not only those
four countries in the world. There are plenty of other countries, and
being an un-Westernized Kansaijin then being not allowed to enter
those countries doesn't mean he is "helplessly incapable", moron.

Kaz

未読、
2003/07/11 19:20:122003/07/11
To:
Cindy <cind...@attb.com> wrote in message news:<ChxPa.34812$H17.10768@sccrnsc02>...

> Kaz wrote:
>
> > I'm too old to attend in school.
>
> "Student" is a good reason for the country to give you a permit or a
> visa. Just FYI.
>
>
> > If I leave Japan, I'd rather want to stay in Shanghai. Have you been
> > there? I want to stay there for a few years if I could.
>
>
> That would be nice. Although I have never been there, I have a
> confidence to live there as well.

Shanghai is the most energetic city in the whole world today, I think.
And of course, it's quite different from Pyongyang.

> I would like to try Pyongyang myself
> if possible. It's very scary, though. Probably I would get chickened
> out. It give me goose bumps just thinking about it.

Don't despise and hate them so much. The only wrong one is the ugly
fat midget dictator and his military, not people there. People there
are also the victims of the stupid dictator, and nothing wrong with
them.

And it seems that the treatment against foreigners is not so bad as
you may be imagining. AFAIK, many Japanese are traveling to N.Korea.
Koryo airlines has been serving some nonscheduled flight from Nagoya,
Niigata with old planes made in USSR...like Ilyushins.

Kaz

未読、
2003/07/12 4:42:362003/07/12
To:
"Cindy" <cind...@attb.com> wrote in message
news:kJqPa.31659$Ph3.2513@sccrnsc04...
No worry, I know what you meant.
"farm work isn't that bad"......would betelling enough.
I'm not thinkking farm work is any bad thing.
Actually I like gardening, and my grandfathers, both mother's side and
father's side were actually farmers.
But farm work is very tough, though.
Wake up at 4 am everyday...stuff like
that. You can't be a farm worker easily as you may be imagining.
It's not always a fun, it's often a suffering.

Daihard

未読、
2003/07/12 5:47:312003/07/12
To:
Kaz wrote:

> Daihard <daiha...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote...


>> Kaz wrote:
>>
>> > It's unrealistic and impracticable, though. There is no country I can
>> > get a job or even get into there except doing farm work in Brazil or
>> > something.
>>
>> It's either you're terribly underestimating your own ability or you're
>> helplessly incapable. There are tens of thousands of Japanese people
>> working in, say, the U.S. I am sure just as many Japanese are working
>> under the "working holiday" program in countries like Canada, Australia
>> and New Zealand. It never hurts to try.
>
> All you want to say is that someone who is not allowed to live or work
> in the US, Canada, Australia, or New Zealand is "helplessly
> incapable", and that's it. What a biased, a narrow-minded ugly point
> of view from a sick honorary white racist. There are not only those
> four countries in the world. There are plenty of other countries, and
> being an un-Westernized Kansaijin then being not allowed to enter
> those countries doesn't mean he is "helplessly incapable", moron.

You don't even have the basic understanding of logic, do you? You said:
"There is no country I can get a job or even get into there except doing

farm work in Brazil or something." All one has to do to refute that claim
is to show that there are countries where you can find work other than
"farm work." I picked those countries simply because I am somewhat familiar
with the temporary work visa systems there.

Oh, another thing... I'd suggest you look up the meaning of "either...
or...," too.

Kaz

未読、
2003/07/12 10:38:362003/07/12
To:
"Daihard" <daiha...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message news:TOQPa.42008$ye4.33450@sccrnsc01...

> Kaz wrote:
>
> > Daihard <daiha...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote...
> >> Kaz wrote:
> >>
> >> > It's unrealistic and impracticable, though. There is no country I can
> >> > get a job or even get into there except doing farm work in Brazil or
> >> > something.
> >>
> >> It's either you're terribly underestimating your own ability or you're
> >> helplessly incapable. There are tens of thousands of Japanese people
> >> working in, say, the U.S. I am sure just as many Japanese are working
> >> under the "working holiday" program in countries like Canada, Australia
> >> and New Zealand. It never hurts to try.
> >
> > All you want to say is that someone who is not allowed to live or work
> > in the US, Canada, Australia, or New Zealand is "helplessly
> > incapable", and that's it. What a biased, a narrow-minded ugly point
> > of view from a sick honorary white racist. There are not only those
> > four countries in the world. There are plenty of other countries, and
> > being an un-Westernized Kansaijin then being not allowed to enter
> > those countries doesn't mean he is "helplessly incapable", moron.
>
> You don't even have the basic understanding of logic, do you? You said:
> "There is no country I can get a job or even get into there except doing
> farm work in Brazil or something." All one has to do to refute that claim
> is to show that there are countries where you can find work other than
> "farm work." I picked those countries simply because I am somewhat familiar
> with the temporary work visa systems there.

Are you stupid or crazy? All of those countries you listed are
extremely offensive countries against Kansai-jin. Don't you know
people in those countries extremely hate and despise Kansaijin? You
are a happy honorary White Kobe person who is not aware of that.

I found someone posted this to 2ch net.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted by Randy Johnson on September 15, 2002 at 18:06:49:

If you're looking for good food, Hokkaido is the place to go!! And
never, I mean NEVER even go near the Kansai region.
Although the residents there claim "the city of best food" or
something like that, trust me it's a BIG FAT LIE!!

Nothing I ate there was good; a wierd Japanese pizza which didn't
taste nothing like a pizza but looked just like PUKE and even tasted
like one!!
And it had a variation which was round and small, and believe me, it
had OCTOPUS in it! Eww.. Yuck. Disgusting... What the fuck is wrong
with those people?

Other than those anything I tried there just didn't have any taste.
Tasteless, literally. I have no idea what the hell those things were
supposed to be..

Anyway with this said, I highly recommend you go to Hokkaido where you
can enjoy the best seafood, veggies, Mongolian BBQ, and real ramen.
(I mean real, not the one you find at the American supermarket!!) And
hey, chicks in the north region are much better than those butt-ugly
women in the Kansai region, too!! (J/K
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I think this is representing the general attitudes of Westerners
against Kansaijin.
Anyway, Don't you know someone called Declan and biku things that have
been extremely despising Kansaijin here in fjlij? They represent the
average hatreds and attitudes against Kansaijin that those people in
the land down under have. Especially New Zealand is an awful country
for a Kansaijin. I used to work together with two New Zealanders, but
they extremely hate every Kansaijin..... They automatically treat us
as if we are yakuza or criminals...even war criminals who had
massacred millions of people.....ridiculously!.
Also don't you know MatthewOutland? One that calls Osakans "nips"?
Canada, see my other comments. Now, did you see why I have been
explaining I'm a typical un-Westernized Kansaijin? I know you are a
happy honorary White, but you should understand our realistic issue we
are facing right now!

>
> Oh, another thing... I'd suggest you look up the meaning of "either...
> or...," too.

Man, I don't need to look it up because I know the meaning. The
problem is not that. The problem is your ignorance about the real
world. Hey stop daydreaming and playing with a Western doll, and grow
up yourself.

Kaz

未読、
2003/07/12 10:51:312003/07/12
To:
Declan Murphy <declan...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3F0ED5AB...@hotmail.com>...

> inhabitants love a drink. How about Casey or Heard?
>
> http://www.antdiv.gov.au/

Are these where you ship your subhumans? It's funny that even those
exiles who had been shipped to the land down under still ship their
subhumans to such place.

Kaz

未読、
2003/07/12 11:03:412003/07/12
To:
worth...@yahoo.com (John W.) wrote in message news:<73fde4f0.03071...@posting.google.com>...
What about joining the service?

Kaz

未読、
2003/07/12 13:24:022003/07/12
To:
Daihard <daiha...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message news:<TOQPa.42008$ye4.33450@sccrnsc01>...

> "farm work." I picked those countries simply because I am somewhat familiar
> with the temporary work visa systems there.

You should be careful about mentioning that kind of things on Usenet
because we have been observed by CIA or everything. They're watching
every person entering into the US. And if you are doing that kind of
"helping illegal aliens(japs) get into America" kind of business, you
should be really careful.

About a year ago, I got a email from a person who claims she is a
recruiter. She said like she is seeking for some English-speaking
Japanese to work in the US. She was offering many good jobs to me,
then asking me to send my resume so importunately. However, I felt
something strange. Well, she has got my email address from Usenet but
how would anyone recruit a person from Usenet? Don't you think it's
strange? Would a real recruiter recruit someone who is completely
unknown to her? I don't think so. I wasn't even writing anything about
my profession or career thing on Usenet, I was only writing some
stupid things, so how could she ever know whether I'm capable or not?
It was surely weird to me. She was asking me many questions like how
much annual income do you want...which city do you want to
work....stuff like that to make it look more plausible. Would a real
recruiter ask that kind of concrete things to a person who is
completely unknown to her? I don't think so.

I thought she may be some kind of spy trying to get my personal
information, so I sent a resume with a false name and a wrong
information about me, including wrong address and a correct free-email
address, because I was very scared about her. My guess was right.
After I sent the resume with all plausible false information, she
never replyed. She was so stupid and she believed that I was really
fooled then sent a resume with my real information. She thought her
job to trick me and get my personal information was successfully done
so she never replied me again even though I emailed many times asking
"what happened to the job you were offering?". I think she was an
agent of CIA, KKK, FBI or something.

Anyway, isn't this story scary? I'm still scared when I recall this,
worrying about why they wanted my personal information......?
are they trying to assassinate me...?
why are they trying to kill me......?
I couldn't even sleep well for a week around that time.

I'm not trying to work or even enter into any of those countries
anyway, so please don't talk about such thing that may sound as if I'm
wishing to work in those countries. I don't want to get that kind of
weird, scary email anymore.

Daihard

未読、
2003/07/12 20:14:412003/07/12
To:
Kaz wrote:

> Daihard <daiha...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:<TOQPa.42008$ye4.33450@sccrnsc01>...
>
>> "farm work." I picked those countries simply because I am somewhat
>> familiar with the temporary work visa systems there.
>
> You should be careful about mentioning that kind of things on Usenet
> because we have been observed by CIA or everything. They're watching
> every person entering into the US. And if you are doing that kind of
> "helping illegal aliens(japs) get into America" kind of business, you
> should be really careful.

Where in my mail did I mention anything "illegal"? Everything about work
that I've been talking about is legal work. I have never worked, and will
never work, illegally. I don't condone doing so either.

Kaz

未読、
2003/07/12 21:02:342003/07/12
To:
"Daihard" <daiha...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message news:Rv1Qa.44252$GL4.11456@rwcrnsc53...

> Kaz wrote:
>
> > Daihard <daiha...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:<TOQPa.42008$ye4.33450@sccrnsc01>...
> >
> >> "farm work." I picked those countries simply because I am somewhat
> >> familiar with the temporary work visa systems there.
> >
> > You should be careful about mentioning that kind of things on Usenet
> > because we have been observed by CIA or everything. They're watching
> > every person entering into the US. And if you are doing that kind of
> > "helping illegal aliens(japs) get into America" kind of business, you
> > should be really careful.
>
> Where in my mail did I mention anything "illegal"? Everything about work

Your posting, not mail right? I was referring to your postings, not
mail. You have never sent me any mail, though.

> that I've been talking about is legal work. I have never worked, and will
> never work, illegally. I don't condone doing so either.

Although you claim it's legal and actually it's legal, the majority of
people in those countries don't like any Asian to come to their lands
that are allegedly considered as the land of "Whites only". And
although if your act is legal, it just look illegal to those people.
So I guess CIA, KKK, FBI, or whatever, they are more like racist's or
separatist's organizations and then they are watching us no matter
whether it's legal as you claim. I'm living in Japan peacefully, and
I never want to be involved with such people. You are the happy
honorary White talking about those countries by your own interest but
I'm a colored who is not even interested in visiting those countries.

Daihard

未読、
2003/07/13 3:59:562003/07/13
To:
Kaz wrote:

> "Daihard" <daiha...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote...
>>

>> You don't even have the basic understanding of logic, do you? You said:
>> "There is no country I can get a job or even get into there except doing
>> farm work in Brazil or something." All one has to do to refute that
>> claim is to show that there are countries where you can find work other
>> than "farm work." I picked those countries simply because I am somewhat
>> familiar with the temporary work visa systems there.
>
> Are you stupid or crazy? All of those countries you listed are
> extremely offensive countries against Kansai-jin. Don't you know
> people in those countries extremely hate and despise Kansaijin? You
> are a happy honorary White Kobe person who is not aware of that.
>
> I found someone posted this to 2ch net.

> [snip]

Unless you're kidding, I really haven't much else to say other than this.
Just 'cause one person doesn't think food in Kansai is great, doesn't mean
everyone in those four countries hates Kansai-jin. That's a bit of a leap,
to say the very least.

>> Oh, another thing... I'd suggest you look up the meaning of "either...
>> or...," too.
>
> Man, I don't need to look it up because I know the meaning. The
> problem is not that. The problem is your ignorance about the real
> world. Hey stop daydreaming and playing with a Western doll, and grow
> up yourself.

What ignorance are you talking about? The "fact" that the four countries
are hostile towards Kansai-jin? ROTFLMAO!

Daihard

未読、
2003/07/13 4:01:382003/07/13
To:
Kaz wrote:

> "Daihard" <daiha...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message

> news:Rv1Qa.44252$GL4.11456@rwcrnsc53...


>> Kaz wrote:
>>
>> > You should be careful about mentioning that kind of things on Usenet
>> > because we have been observed by CIA or everything. They're watching
>> > every person entering into the US. And if you are doing that kind of
>> > "helping illegal aliens(japs) get into America" kind of business, you
>> > should be really careful.
>>
>> Where in my mail did I mention anything "illegal"? Everything about work
>
> Your posting, not mail right? I was referring to your postings, not
> mail. You have never sent me any mail, though.

Where in my posts did I mention anything "illegal"?

> Although you claim it's legal and actually it's legal, the majority of
> people in those countries don't like any Asian to come to their lands
> that are allegedly considered as the land of "Whites only".

What's legal is legal. Plain and simple.

Kaz

未読、
2003/07/13 10:49:352003/07/13
To:
"Daihard" <daiha...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message news:Cl8Qa.50007$Ph3.4606@sccrnsc04...

> Kaz wrote:
>
> > "Daihard" <daiha...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:Rv1Qa.44252$GL4.11456@rwcrnsc53...

> >> Kaz wrote:
> >>
> >> > You should be careful about mentioning that kind of things on Usenet
> >> > because we have been observed by CIA or everything. They're watching
> >> > every person entering into the US. And if you are doing that kind of
> >> > "helping illegal aliens(japs) get into America" kind of business, you
> >> > should be really careful.
> >>
> >> Where in my mail did I mention anything "illegal"? Everything about work
> >
> > Your posting, not mail right? I was referring to your postings, not
> > mail. You have never sent me any mail, though.
>
> Where in my posts did I mention anything "illegal"?

So the temporary work visa thing is legal?

> > Although you claim it's legal and actually it's legal, the majority of
> > people in those countries don't like any Asian to come to their lands
> > that are allegedly considered as the land of "Whites only".
>
> What's legal is legal. Plain and simple.

Although murder is illegal, there are a lot of coloreds are being shot
and killed every day in the US.
"Legal" doesn't always mean "honored" by people there.

Kaz

未読、
2003/07/13 10:57:462003/07/13
To:
"Daihard" <daiha...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message news:0k8Qa.50357$H17.15000@sccrnsc02...
> Kaz wrote:

> > Man, I don't need to look it up because I know the meaning. The
> > problem is not that. The problem is your ignorance about the real
> > world. Hey stop daydreaming and playing with a Western doll, and grow
> > up yourself.
>

> What ignorance are you talking about? The "fact" that the four countries
> are hostile towards Kansai-jin? ROTFLMAO!

At least in Kansai, maybe except Kobe, generally it's known very well.
Especially NewZealand is known as the most offensive country to
Kansaijin. Not only to Kansaijin, It is also hoistle toward every
Japanese. They hate "japs" more than the Koreans or anybody else in
this globe.

I heard an ugly story. a Japanese tourist traveling to the Gold Coast
of the land down under, she was almost drowning while she was swimming
in a beach. Nobody besides a local person was aware of her struggling
on water. But the local person had never called any rescue for her, he
rushed back to his house near the beach and got his video camera and
returned to the place, then took pictures of all the actions of "how
a jap girl drowns".

You should be aware that people in those countries are not friendly
and humane as the Japanese think. The Japanese are often merely a kind
of apes for them.

Daihard

未読、
2003/07/13 16:34:412003/07/13
To:
Kaz wrote:

> "Daihard" <daiha...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote...
>>

>> What ignorance are you talking about? The "fact" that the four countries
>> are hostile towards Kansai-jin? ROTFLMAO!
>
> At least in Kansai, maybe except Kobe, generally it's known very well.
> Especially NewZealand is known as the most offensive country to
> Kansaijin. Not only to Kansaijin, It is also hoistle toward every
> Japanese. They hate "japs" more than the Koreans or anybody else in
> this globe.
>
> I heard an ugly story. a Japanese tourist traveling to the Gold Coast
> of the land down under, she was almost drowning while she was swimming
> in a beach. Nobody besides a local person was aware of her struggling
> on water. But the local person had never called any rescue for her, he
> rushed back to his house near the beach and got his video camera and
> returned to the place, then took pictures of all the actions of "how
> a jap girl drowns".

So one Australian person's cruel action (or inaction) towards a Japanese
person constitutes the general hostility of the four countries towards
Japanese... You should consider becoming a fiction writer.

Daihard

未読、
2003/07/13 16:38:302003/07/13
To:
Kaz wrote:

> "Daihard" <daiha...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote...
>> Kaz wrote:
>>

>> > Your posting, not mail right? I was referring to your postings, not
>> > mail. You have never sent me any mail, though.
>>
>> Where in my posts did I mention anything "illegal"?
>
> So the temporary work visa thing is legal?

Of course. All visas except for permanent residence (i.e. "green card" in
the U.S.) are temporary.

> Although murder is illegal, there are a lot of coloreds are being shot
> and killed every day in the US.

A lot of people, regardless of their colours, are shot and killed every day.

> "Legal" doesn't always mean "honored" by people there.

Of course not. What's your point?

John W.

未読、
2003/07/13 18:17:442003/07/13
To:
k...@ivebeenframed.com (Kaz) wrote in message news:<365fcc52.03071...@posting.google.com>...

That works. Actually, I think the Bush administration proposed a
program of mandatory civil service for people (young adults), either
military, Peace Corps, or something along those lines. Great idea,
IMHO.

John W.

Louise Bremner

未読、
2003/07/13 18:34:562003/07/13
To:
Kaz <k...@ivebeenframed.com> wrote:

> Especially NewZealand is known as the most offensive country to
> Kansaijin. Not only to Kansaijin, It is also hoistle toward every
> Japanese. They hate "japs" more than the Koreans or anybody else in
> this globe.
>
> I heard an ugly story. a Japanese tourist traveling to the Gold Coast

> of the land down under....

Nice one....

________________________________________________________________________
Louise Bremner (log at gol dot com)
If you want a reply by e-mail, don't write to my Yahoo address!

Kevin Wayne Williams

未読、
2003/07/13 21:34:112003/07/13
To:
Kaz wrote:

>
> Are you stupid or crazy? All of those countries you listed are
> extremely offensive countries against Kansai-jin.

I'll make you a bet, Kaz. If I walked down the street here in San Jose,
and started asking people how they felt about Kansaijin, only one out of
fifty would know what one was. Out of that group, 20% would be
Kansaijin, and most of the rest would be from other places in Japan.

Americans don't hate Kansaijin. They don't even know what they are.

KWW

Dave Fossett

未読、
2003/07/13 21:48:492003/07/13
To:
Kevin Wayne Williams wrote:

> I'll make you a bet, Kaz. If I walked down the street here in San Jose,
> and started asking people how they felt about Kansaijin, only one out of
> fifty would know what one was. Out of that group, 20% would be
> Kansaijin, and most of the rest would be from other places in Japan.
>
> Americans don't hate Kansaijin. They don't even know what they are.

LOL... Osaka? Isn't that some place in South Africa? ;-)

--
Dave Fossett
Saitama, Japan

Dave Fossett

未読、
2003/07/13 21:58:512003/07/13
To:
Louise Bremner wrote:

> Kaz <k...@ivebeenframed.com> wrote:
>
> > I heard an ugly story. a Japanese tourist traveling to the Gold Coast
> > of the land down under....
>
> Nice one....

I don't know why, but these song lyrics just came into my head...

I met a strange lady
She made me nervous
She took me in and gave me breakfast

Kaz

未読、
2003/07/14 2:07:032003/07/14
To:
Kevin Wayne Williams <nih...@paxonet.kom> wrote in message news:<nMnQa.11114$D%1.6...@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>...

> Kaz wrote:
>
> >
> > Are you stupid or crazy? All of those countries you listed are
> > extremely offensive countries against Kansai-jin.
>
> I'll make you a bet, Kaz. If I walked down the street here in San Jose,
> and started asking people how they felt about Kansaijin, only one out of
> fifty would know what one was. Out of that group, 20% would be
> Kansaijin, and most of the rest would be from other places in Japan.

Is San Jose the place where the concentration camps for "japs" were
once located? ....No, they were supposed to be located in some desert
area, so is that close to those camps in the desert? I guess so. And
that's why they still hung around that area. They still can't
completely get out from the camps. If you dislike them, you can put
them into the camps again.

> Americans don't hate Kansaijin. They don't even know what they are.

Of course they never pay any attention to us, so they don't know. They
don't particularly hate Kansaijin but they just hate all the coloreds
including Kansaijin, The Chinese, other Asians and Africans. And they
exceptionally admit a certain type of the Japanese which I guess
"Tokyo type" as honorary Whites aren't they?

Anyway, that would be the same thing as they hate Kansaijin.

Kaz

未読、
2003/07/14 2:50:502003/07/14
To:
"Display Name" <mmi...@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message news:<3z2Oa.9956$Aw....@twister.nyc.rr.com>...
> They're spoiled brats? Japanese kids going to school in the US come from
> families in that tax bracket above most of the others, including those
> japanese kids who go to college in japan...
> Rich kids, not having a lot of character, also usually have to try harder
> for a sense of identity (overblown style)
> Just a guess.

You are the only one I agree with among others in this thread. Yes,
you are right. Those Japanese are a sort of special Japanese that I
state as "honorary Whites", who have been exceptionally allowed to
stay in the US. They are usually well off and very different from the
ordinary Japanese. They can't have a lot of character because they
always trying to imitate Western things. They can't have their own
character, identity and point of view of the Japanese because they
look down on the Japanese culture and the Asian culture then they
adore every Western things.

Declan Murphy

未読、
2003/07/14 9:11:422003/07/14
To:

I don't think so. For many scientists its often considered an
interesting (and sought after) gig, and there is even a small and
growing eco-tourism industry starting to subsidise some of the costs of
maintaining the stations.

Kevin Wayne Williams

未読、
2003/07/14 12:38:362003/07/14
To:
Kaz wrote:

> Kevin Wayne Williams <nih...@paxonet.kom> wrote in message news:<nMnQa.11114$D%1.6...@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>...
>
>>Kaz wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Are you stupid or crazy? All of those countries you listed are
>>>extremely offensive countries against Kansai-jin.
>>
>>I'll make you a bet, Kaz. If I walked down the street here in San Jose,
>>and started asking people how they felt about Kansaijin, only one out of
>>fifty would know what one was. Out of that group, 20% would be
>>Kansaijin, and most of the rest would be from other places in Japan.
>
>
> Is San Jose the place where the concentration camps for "japs" were
> once located? ....No, they were supposed to be located in some desert
> area, so is that close to those camps in the desert? I guess so. And
> that's why they still hung around that area. They still can't
> completely get out from the camps. If you dislike them, you can put
> them into the camps again.

The internment camps were southwest of here. Yes, that was a shameful
period of American history. I won't defend it.

My main point is valid: American's don't discriminate against Kansaijin.
Most Americans can't distinguish Chinese, Vietnamese, Koreans, and
Japanese. The number that can tell the difference between an "honorary
white Tokyo type" Japanese person and someone from Kansai is trivially
small.

KWW

Kaz

未読、
2003/07/14 13:16:182003/07/14
To:
gold...@volcanomail.com (Chulsoo Kim) wrote in message news:<2396849a.03070...@posting.google.com>...> > "Dave Fossett" <re...@via.newsgroup> wrote in message news:VzdOa.264$FN4...@news1.dion.ne.jp...
> > > "Kaz" <k...@ivebeenframed.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Ryan Ginstrom" <gins...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:<beb2pq$32msr$1...@ID-101276.news.dfncis.de>...
> > > > > "Kaz" <k...@ivebeenframed.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Conclusion: No matter what her ethnic is, expats tend to become more
> > > > > > rude and antisocial than the cases they are in their own country.
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh yeah? Well fuck off then, you booska looking fuck.
> > > >
> > > > Why are you mad at me?
> > >
> > > Go back and read what you wrote, Kaz.
> >
> > I have no clue.
>

Go to hell, Kim.

Kaz

未読、
2003/07/14 15:17:302003/07/14
To:
"Dave Fossett" <re...@via.newsgroup> wrote in message news:<fZnQa.491$FN4...@news1.dion.ne.jp>...

No, It's supposed to be Nigeria for those people.

Don Kirkman

未読、
2003/07/14 14:59:162003/07/14
To:
It seems to me I heard somewhere that Kaz wrote in article
<365fcc52.03071...@posting.google.com>:

>Kevin Wayne Williams <nih...@paxonet.kom> wrote in message news:<nMnQa.11114$D%1.6...@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>...
>> Kaz wrote:

>> > Are you stupid or crazy? All of those countries you listed are
>> > extremely offensive countries against Kansai-jin.
>> I'll make you a bet, Kaz. If I walked down the street here in San Jose,
>> and started asking people how they felt about Kansaijin, only one out of
>> fifty would know what one was. Out of that group, 20% would be
>> Kansaijin, and most of the rest would be from other places in Japan.

>Is San Jose the place where the concentration camps for "japs" were
>once located? ....No, they were supposed to be located in some desert
>area, so is that close to those camps in the desert? I guess so. And
>that's why they still hung around that area. They still can't
>completely get out from the camps. If you dislike them, you can put
>them into the camps again.

You might do well to read a little bit about some of these things you
claim to care about. The camps ranged from Wyoming to Arizona, from
eastern California to Utah and Arkansas.

The camps closed in 1946; I don't think anyone is still "hanging around"
or having a hard time getting "completely out."
--
Don
don...@covad.net

Vernon North

未読、
2003/07/14 19:25:472003/07/14
To:
In article <365fcc52.03071...@posting.google.com>,
k...@ivebeenframed.com says...
How much do you hate them, Kaz? Tell us.

Verno

Vernon North

未読、
2003/07/14 19:27:082003/07/14
To:

Who do you think shoots them?

Verno

Kaz

未読、
2003/07/15 5:15:222003/07/15
To:
Vernon North <ve...@oyama.ca> wrote in message news:<MPG.197cdc406...@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net>...

Simple, Whites like you think that they are superior to coloreds and
they believe every colored has no brain to think, they think every
colored is criminal or something.

Kaz

未読、
2003/07/15 5:48:512003/07/15
To:
Don Kirkman <spamb...@covad.net> wrote in message news:<bvq5hv45i77e53hj5...@4ax.com>...

Are those "japs" treated as a kind of human species now?
Anyway, I heard that they were put in the concentration camps to be
intended to be killed by the extreme heat and severely poor
environment there. Those young "jap" males who don't want to stay
there and die have to form such troops like the 442nd Regimental
Combat Team and then had to dedicate their lives to rescue White
troops and to surrender European fronts. Roma was actually surrendered
by a few survivors of 442nd after the most of its members were killed
in many severe battles in Europe, but this fact was completely covered
up by the government. The headquarters of the European front had made
a White troop that had been coming behind the severely battling "jap"
442nd to first enter into the city of Roma sensationally, and cheated
as if the White troop surrendered Roma.

You guys should be really ashamed. Those concentration camps were
nothing different from Auschwitz, and you guys were nothing different
from Nazi.

Kaz

未読、
2003/07/15 7:22:392003/07/15
To:
Vernon North <ve...@oyama.ca> wrote in message news:<MPG.197cdbf6c...@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net>...

It's unfair to not mention how much those honorary Whites despise us,
isn't it?
They trashed out their identity of Asian, and then extremely hate us.
How do you think about that? You should first see how those honorary
Whites like shuji matsuda, or Daitaro kind of honorary Whites who have
been allowed to live in such a country like Canada hate us.

Kaz

未読、
2003/07/15 7:31:272003/07/15
To:
Kevin Wayne Williams <nih...@paxonet.kom> wrote in message news:<g0BQa.15229$D%1.9...@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>...

> Kaz wrote:
>
> > Kevin Wayne Williams <nih...@paxonet.kom> wrote in message news:<nMnQa.11114$D%1.6...@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>...
> >
> >>Kaz wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Are you stupid or crazy? All of those countries you listed are
> >>>extremely offensive countries against Kansai-jin.
> >>
> >>I'll make you a bet, Kaz. If I walked down the street here in San Jose,
> >>and started asking people how they felt about Kansaijin, only one out of
> >>fifty would know what one was. Out of that group, 20% would be
> >>Kansaijin, and most of the rest would be from other places in Japan.
> >
> >
> > Is San Jose the place where the concentration camps for "japs" were
> > once located? ....No, they were supposed to be located in some desert
> > area, so is that close to those camps in the desert? I guess so. And
> > that's why they still hung around that area. They still can't
> > completely get out from the camps. If you dislike them, you can put
> > them into the camps again.
>
> The internment camps were southwest of here. Yes, that was a shameful
> period of American history. I won't defend it.
>
> My main point is valid: American's don't discriminate against Kansaijin.
> Most Americans can't distinguish Chinese, Vietnamese, Koreans, and
> Japanese.

It seems you are correct. It's true that they can't tell the
difference between the Japanese and other Asians. That's why I was
saying they just hate all coloreds including Kansaijin. Daihard is a
crazy honorary White Japanese who daydreams as if Whites like us.

Kaz

未読、
2003/07/15 7:42:072003/07/15
To:
Daihard <daiha...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message news:<Cl8Qa.50007$Ph3.4606@sccrnsc04>...

> Kaz wrote:
>
> > "Daihard" <daiha...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:Rv1Qa.44252$GL4.11456@rwcrnsc53...
> >> Kaz wrote:
> >>
> >> > You should be careful about mentioning that kind of things on Usenet
> >> > because we have been observed by CIA or everything. They're watching
> >> > every person entering into the US. And if you are doing that kind of
> >> > "helping illegal aliens(japs) get into America" kind of business, you
> >> > should be really careful.
> >>
> >> Where in my mail did I mention anything "illegal"? Everything about work
> >
> > Your posting, not mail right? I was referring to your postings, not
> > mail. You have never sent me any mail, though.
>
> Where in my posts did I mention anything "illegal"?

You often sound like a happy honorary White Yamaguchi-gumi yakuza of
Kobe who lacks some sense of being law-abiding, and some sense of the
ordinary Japanese. Sorry for that.



> > Although you claim it's legal and actually it's legal, the majority of
> > people in those countries don't like any Asian to come to their lands
> > that are allegedly considered as the land of "Whites only".
>
> What's legal is legal. Plain and simple.

That's fine.

Kaz

未読、
2003/07/15 8:58:472003/07/15
To:
"Kaz" <k...@ivebeenframed.com> wrote in message news:365fcc52.03071...@posting.google.com...
> Daihard <daiha...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message news:<Cl8Qa.50007$Ph3.4606@sccrnsc04>...

> > Kaz wrote:
> >
> > > "Daihard" <daiha...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:Rv1Qa.44252$GL4.11456@rwcrnsc53...
> > >> Kaz wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > You should be careful about mentioning that kind of things on Usenet
> > >> > because we have been observed by CIA or everything. They're watching
> > >> > every person entering into the US. And if you are doing that kind of
> > >> > "helping illegal aliens(japs) get into America" kind of business, you
> > >> > should be really careful.
> > >>
> > >> Where in my mail did I mention anything "illegal"? Everything about work
> > >
> > > Your posting, not mail right? I was referring to your postings, not
> > > mail. You have never sent me any mail, though.
> >
> > Where in my posts did I mention anything "illegal"?
>
> You often sound like a happy honorary White Yamaguchi-gumi yakuza of
> Kobe who lacks some sense of being law-abiding, and some sense of the
> ordinary Japanese. Sorry for that.

Also are you aware of that those yakuza of Kobe are very familiar to
those countries? The most of yakuza there are burakumins, the Ethnic
Koreans, and the Taiwanese once called as Sangokujin that had been
released subsequently to the surrender. They were the privileged class
people who have been treated as "quasi-victorious nationals" and
"quasi-Whites". Those Samgokujin of such ugly regions like Kobe,
Ashiya, Koshien had an extraterritoriality then lynched the ordinary
Japanese together with their fellow yakuza. And by taking the
advantage of their privilege that allows them to deal with the foods
supplied from GHQ, they were running black markets, then they earned a
lot of money. The most of yakuza in such the biggest yakuza residence
area Rokurokuso, Ashiya were those yakuza who had been illegally
dealing such foods supplied by GHQ in black markets during the period
of severe food shortage right after the end of the war. They
established their new businesses such as trucking by the money they
had earned by the black markets. Anyway, Don't you know that the
consulate of New Zealand is located at right next to the headquarters
of Yamaguchi-gumi yakuza in the burakumin region of Shinohara, Kobe?
No ordinary Japanese person can reside in that kind of region so those
who can reside at right next to its headquarters must have some
relation with the Yamaguchi-gumi yakuza. I think. I mean, that country
like New Zealand is the same sort of people as the Sangokujin who once
lynched us, and the same as yakuza that have been bothering our
society now.

vernon...@oyama.ca

未読、
2003/07/15 23:29:552003/07/15
To:
In article <365fcc52.0307...@posting.google.com>,
k...@ivebeenframed.com says...
Translation: Honorary whites are non-racist Asians who are able to adapt
to life in a European country. Kaz is very jealous of them. They are
popular with Canadian women because they have good manners, unlike Kaz.

Kaz, if you like, I will teach you to be well-mannered. That way you,
too, can be popular with Canadian girls. But first, you must drop macho
attitudes, please.

My fees are usually quite high, but I know how much you want to be
accepted so I will give you a discount.

Verno

Daihard

未読、
2003/07/16 0:38:362003/07/16
To:
Kaz wrote:

> Are those "japs" treated as a kind of human species now?
> Anyway, I heard that they were put in the concentration camps to be
> intended to be killed by the extreme heat and severely poor
> environment there. Those young "jap" males who don't want to stay
> there and die have to form such troops like the 442nd Regimental
> Combat Team and then had to dedicate their lives to rescue White
> troops and to surrender European fronts.

The loyalty of the Japanese-Americans at that time was (unreasonably)
questioned. The "young" Japanese-Americans had to (or wanted to) become
soldiers in order to prove themselves as loyal Americans.

> You guys should be really ashamed. Those concentration camps were
> nothing different from Auschwitz, and you guys were nothing different
> from Nazi.

Yes, it was a terrible thing to happen, but the survivors I have spoken to
are mostly grateful for the U.S. government's acknowledgment of the
wrongdoing. If they are ready to move on, why can't we?

Besides, who do you mean by "you guys"? Those who were born after WWII have
no responsibility for what happened during the war.

Daihard

未読、
2003/07/16 0:42:182003/07/16
To:
Kaz wrote:

> It seems you are correct. It's true that they can't tell the
> difference between the Japanese and other Asians. That's why I was
> saying they just hate all coloreds including Kansaijin. Daihard is a
> crazy honorary White Japanese who daydreams as if Whites like us.

"Us"? Please, for cryin' out loud, do not put you and myself in the same
league.

All you're doing is a sweeping generalization. There are some whites who
hate Asians, just like there are some Asians who hate whites ("Kaz" comes
to mind).

Daihard

未読、
2003/07/16 0:49:072003/07/16
To:
vernon...@oyama.ca wrote:

> k...@ivebeenframed.com says...


>>
>> It's unfair to not mention how much those honorary Whites despise us,
>> isn't it?
>> They trashed out their identity of Asian, and then extremely hate us.
>> How do you think about that? You should first see how those honorary
>> Whites like shuji matsuda, or Daitaro kind of honorary Whites who have
>> been allowed to live in such a country like Canada hate us.
>>
> Translation: Honorary whites are non-racist Asians who are able to adapt
> to life in a European country. Kaz is very jealous of them. They are
> popular with Canadian women because they have good manners, unlike Kaz.

I would give you an A for the translation. :)

Daihard

未読、
2003/07/16 0:48:042003/07/16
To:
Kaz wrote:

> It's unfair to not mention how much those honorary Whites despise us,
> isn't it?

No. What makes you think it is?

> They trashed out their identity of Asian, and then extremely hate us.
> How do you think about that? You should first see how those honorary
> Whites like shuji matsuda, or Daitaro kind of honorary Whites who have
> been allowed to live in such a country like Canada hate us.

I've never seen any post from that "Daitaro" guy. I must have missed him!

mtfe...@netscape.net

未読、
2003/07/16 0:52:322003/07/16
To:
In fj.life.in-japan Kaz <k...@ivebeenframed.com> wrote:
> Don Kirkman <spamb...@covad.net> wrote in message news:<bvq5hv45i77e53hj5...@4ax.com>...

>>

>> You might do well to read a little bit about some of these things you
>> claim to care about. The camps ranged from Wyoming to Arizona, from
>> eastern California to Utah and Arkansas.
>>
>> The camps closed in 1946; I don't think anyone is still "hanging around"
>> or having a hard time getting "completely out."

> Are those "japs" treated as a kind of human species now?
> Anyway, I heard that they were put in the concentration camps to be
> intended to be killed by the extreme heat and severely poor

You hear lottsa things, considering the vacuum between your ears.

Doesn't make 'em true, though.

> environment there. Those young "jap" males who don't want to stay
> there and die have to form such troops like the 442nd Regimental
> Combat Team and then had to dedicate their lives to rescue White
> troops and to surrender European fronts. Roma was actually surrendered

Could you try that in English?

> by a few survivors of 442nd after the most of its members were killed
> in many severe battles in Europe, but this fact was completely covered
> up by the government. The headquarters of the European front had made

??? Actually, it's well known that the 442 took more casualties than they
rescued at the Bulge.

'Course, one would have to be literate to have read that...

> You guys should be really ashamed.

Racist little sod, aren't you?

> Those concentration camps were nothing different from Auschwitz,

Well, aside from the gassings, machine-gunnings, beatings, and the hundreds
of thousands of deaths...

> and you guys were nothing different from Nazi.

Haven't I seen you peeling bananas with your feet?

Mike

mtfe...@netscape.net

未読、
2003/07/16 0:55:472003/07/16
To:
In fj.life.in-japan Daihard <daiha...@spamyahoo.com> wrote:
> Kaz wrote:

>> It's unfair to not mention how much those honorary Whites despise us,
>> isn't it?

> No. What makes you think it is?

>> They trashed out their identity of Asian, and then extremely hate us.
>> How do you think about that? You should first see how those honorary
>> Whites like shuji matsuda, or Daitaro kind of honorary Whites who have
>> been allowed to live in such a country like Canada hate us.

> I've never seen any post from that "Daitaro" guy. I must have missed him!

He must be from the "Kinai" region of Japan.

Anyone notice that Kaz sounds remarkably like Tomoyuki TanaKKKa? I mean,
after the drugs took their full toll..

Mike

Dave Fossett

未読、
2003/07/16 1:42:462003/07/16
To:
<mtfe...@netscape.net> wrote:

> Anyone notice that Kaz sounds remarkably like Tomoyuki TanaKKKa? I mean,
> after the drugs took their full toll..

Hehe... That was my first thought too when "Kaz Tanaka" suddenly appeared on
the scene. The strange inability to read or write Japanese on Usenet all
sounded *very* familiar...
I think the subsequent anti-Tokyo rants pretty much rule out the possibility
of there being any relationship, though.

Kaz

未読、
2003/07/16 5:00:552003/07/16
To:
mtfe...@netscape.net wrote in message news:<bf2lmg$m1b$1...@news.Stanford.EDU>...

> In fj.life.in-japan Kaz <k...@ivebeenframed.com> wrote:
> > Don Kirkman <spamb...@covad.net> wrote in message news:<bvq5hv45i77e53hj5...@4ax.com>...
>
> >>
> >> You might do well to read a little bit about some of these things you
> >> claim to care about. The camps ranged from Wyoming to Arizona, from
> >> eastern California to Utah and Arkansas.
> >>
> >> The camps closed in 1946; I don't think anyone is still "hanging around"
> >> or having a hard time getting "completely out."
>
> > Are those "japs" treated as a kind of human species now?
> > Anyway, I heard that they were put in the concentration camps to be
> > intended to be killed by the extreme heat and severely poor
>
> You hear lottsa things, considering the vacuum between your ears.
>
> Doesn't make 'em true, though.

Wow, usotsuki gaijin!

> > environment there. Those young "jap" males who don't want to stay
> > there and die have to form such troops like the 442nd Regimental
> > Combat Team and then had to dedicate their lives to rescue White
> > troops and to surrender European fronts. Roma was actually surrendered
>
> Could you try that in English?

Wow! dumb fucking gaijin don't understand English.

> > by a few survivors of 442nd after the most of its members were killed
> > in many severe battles in Europe, but this fact was completely covered
> > up by the government. The headquarters of the European front had made
>
> ??? Actually, it's well known that the 442 took more casualties than they
> rescued at the Bulge.
>
> 'Course, one would have to be literate to have read that...

Wow, onesho gaijin ranting something.

> > You guys should be really ashamed.
>
> Racist little sod, aren't you?

Wow, the onesho gaijin is crying!

> > Those concentration camps were nothing different from Auschwitz,
>
> Well, aside from the gassings, machine-gunnings, beatings, and the hundreds
> of thousands of deaths...
>
> > and you guys were nothing different from Nazi.
>
> Haven't I seen you peeling bananas with your feet?

You should see a psychiatrist immediately. Also he will treat your onesho habit.

Kaz

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2003/07/16 5:24:092003/07/16
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Daihard <daiha...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message news:<gF4Ra.61474$wk6....@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net>...

> Kaz wrote:
>
> > Are those "japs" treated as a kind of human species now?
> > Anyway, I heard that they were put in the concentration camps to be
> > intended to be killed by the extreme heat and severely poor
> > environment there. Those young "jap" males who don't want to stay
> > there and die have to form such troops like the 442nd Regimental
> > Combat Team and then had to dedicate their lives to rescue White
> > troops and to surrender European fronts.
>
> The loyalty of the Japanese-Americans at that time was (unreasonably)
> questioned. The "young" Japanese-Americans had to (or wanted to) become
> soldiers in order to prove themselves as loyal Americans.

AFAIK, many of those Japanese-Americans were originally from Aidu
Wakamatsu clan, or Wakayama clan that had been strongly opposing to
the imperial Tokyo totalitarian regime. It's ridiculous to question if
they'd belonged to the imperial Tokyo regime, or if they had any kind
of loyalty to the regime. All they had is just love for their mother
country of good old Japan of the Tokugawa period. Those ignorant
Whites who had doubted their loyalty would be as silly as
mtfe...@netscape.net.

> > You guys should be really ashamed. Those concentration camps were
> > nothing different from Auschwitz, and you guys were nothing different
> > from Nazi.
>
> Yes, it was a terrible thing to happen, but the survivors I have spoken to
> are mostly grateful for the U.S. government's acknowledgment of the
> wrongdoing. If they are ready to move on, why can't we?

Those who had put them into the concentration camps should be executed
as Tojo Hideki was executed. They are merely war criminals as Tojo
Hideki.



> Besides, who do you mean by "you guys"? Those who were born after WWII have
> no responsibility for what happened during the war.

Then why are they always blaming us with such Pearl Harbor or Nanking
rape things?

Kaz

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2003/07/16 5:43:012003/07/16
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Daihard <daiha...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message news:<KI4Ra.61832$sY2....@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net>...

> Kaz wrote:
>
> > It seems you are correct. It's true that they can't tell the
> > difference between the Japanese and other Asians. That's why I was
> > saying they just hate all coloreds including Kansaijin. Daihard is a
> > crazy honorary White Japanese who daydreams as if Whites like us.
>
> "Us"? Please, for cryin' out loud, do not put you and myself in the same
> league.

Why are you always crying? Anyway, right, you are the honorary White -
means "honorary retarded racist" like mtfe...@netscape.net. You are
not us.

> All you're doing is a sweeping generalization. There are some whites who
> hate Asians, just like there are some Asians who hate whites ("Kaz" comes
> to mind).

Why do you assume I hate them? If I hate them, I don't communicate
with them. It's so simple why it is. It's because Whites hate us,
despise us, abuse us.

Kaz

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2003/07/16 7:42:392003/07/16
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<vernon...@oyama.ca> wrote in message news:MPG.197e66a9c...@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...

You sick ultra White supremacist Canadian should stop insulting us.
You dumb barbaric Canadian's manner is just going to a dirty and
stinking strip club in downtown which the ugly bitch cows are dancing,
and then arm-wrestle with another tattooed yakuza there, then you
start to fight with the yakuza, by hitting his heads by a beer battle.
Nobody want to adapt to such savage style of European countries.
Japanese have better, nice, clean and neat living standards and
culture. Those honorary Whites are quasi-barbarians and they are so
vulgar, so they can stand such vulgar and dirty lifestyle in a
European country, I think.

> Kaz, if you like, I will teach you to be well-mannered.

No, I don't need to know such savage's manner.

> That way you,
> too, can be popular with Canadian girls. But first, you must drop macho
> attitudes, please.

No, I don't want to be popular with such ugly bitches.

> My fees are usually quite high, but I know how much you want to be
> accepted so I will give you a discount.

Canadians are merely yakuza to me. You are not worth anything to me.
Sorry about that. Bye bye.

Kaz

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2003/07/16 7:45:142003/07/16
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Daihard <daiha...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message news:<7P4Ra.61557$wk6....@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net>...

> vernon...@oyama.ca wrote:
>
> > k...@ivebeenframed.com says...
> >>
> >> It's unfair to not mention how much those honorary Whites despise us,
> >> isn't it?
> >> They trashed out their identity of Asian, and then extremely hate us.
> >> How do you think about that? You should first see how those honorary
> >> Whites like shuji matsuda, or Daitaro kind of honorary Whites who have
> >> been allowed to live in such a country like Canada hate us.
> >>
> > Translation: Honorary whites are non-racist Asians who are able to adapt
> > to life in a European country. Kaz is very jealous of them. They are
> > popular with Canadian women because they have good manners, unlike Kaz.
>
> I would give you an A for the translation. :)

Diahard is an ugly yakuza of Kobe who doesn't have neat Japanese
culture, then worships such wild Western things.

Kaz

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2003/07/16 9:22:122003/07/16
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mtfe...@netscape.net wrote in message news:<bf2lsj$m1b$2...@news.Stanford.EDU>...

You remarkably sound like a member of KKK.

Kaz

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2003/07/16 9:31:192003/07/16
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Daihard <daiha...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message news:<8O4Ra.61881$sY2....@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net>...

> Kaz wrote:
>
> > It's unfair to not mention how much those honorary Whites despise us,
> > isn't it?
>
> No. What makes you think it is?
>
> > They trashed out their identity of Asian, and then extremely hate us.
> > How do you think about that? You should first see how those honorary
> > Whites like shuji matsuda, or Daitaro kind of honorary Whites who have
> > been allowed to live in such a country like Canada hate us.
>
> I've never seen any post from that "Daitaro" guy. I must have missed him!

Sorry, I mistakenly mixed up with him. Daitaro Hagihara is an ugly
honorary White from Koshien. He is also an ultrarightwinger who denies
his being Asian, then worships Whites as an usual Kobe person. He is
very much like you.

mtfe...@netscape.net

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2003/07/16 9:34:262003/07/16
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In fj.life.in-japan Kaz <k...@ivebeenframed.com> wrote:
> Daihard <daiha...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message news:<gF4Ra.61474$wk6....@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net>...
>> Kaz wrote:
>>
>> > Are those "japs" treated as a kind of human species now?
>> > Anyway, I heard that they were put in the concentration camps to be
>> > intended to be killed by the extreme heat and severely poor
>> > environment there. Those young "jap" males who don't want to stay
>> > there and die have to form such troops like the 442nd Regimental
>> > Combat Team and then had to dedicate their lives to rescue White
>> > troops and to surrender European fronts.
>>
>> The loyalty of the Japanese-Americans at that time was (unreasonably)
>> questioned. The "young" Japanese-Americans had to (or wanted to) become
>> soldiers in order to prove themselves as loyal Americans.

> AFAIK, many of those Japanese-Americans were originally from Aidu
> Wakamatsu clan, or Wakayama clan that had been strongly opposing to

Actually, some were from Tokyo.

MOST weren't samurai.

Mike

mtfe...@netscape.net

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2003/07/16 9:39:092003/07/16
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How many do you know, Monkey-Boy?

Mike

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