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For Eric (and others in Hiroshima)

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John W.

未読、
2003/06/17 17:42:342003/06/17
To:
From Yomiuri:

"Hiroshima man admits stealing 1,000 bikes"
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/newse/20030618wo21.htm

"A 67-year-old man sent to prosecutors on suspicion of stealing about
20 bicycles has admitted stealing and selling more than 1,000 bicycles
over a 31-year period, The Yomiuri Shimbun learned Tuesday."

John W.

Eric Takabayashi

未読、
2003/06/18 7:02:012003/06/18
To:
"John W." wrote:

That's nothing. That's less than one a week over a 31 year period. A
flier I got in my mailbox claimed over 11,500 bicycles were reported
stolen in Fukuyama and adjoining Fuchu (which will be assimilated) in a
single year, and hundreds of abandoned bikes per season need to be hauled
away from near the station.

Maybe he was a freeter bike thief.

John W.

未読、
2003/06/18 13:24:242003/06/18
To:
Eric Takabayashi <eta...@yahoo.co.jp> wrote in message news:<3EF046AA...@yahoo.co.jp>...

> "John W." wrote:
>
> > From Yomiuri:
> >
> > "Hiroshima man admits stealing 1,000 bikes"
> > http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/newse/20030618wo21.htm
> >
> > "A 67-year-old man sent to prosecutors on suspicion of stealing about
> > 20 bicycles has admitted stealing and selling more than 1,000 bicycles
> > over a 31-year period, The Yomiuri Shimbun learned Tuesday."
>
> That's nothing. That's less than one a week over a 31 year period.

I didn't think of it in that way. When taken from that perspective,
I'd bet this guy's really a small timer.

> A flier I got in my mailbox claimed over 11,500 bicycles were reported
> stolen in Fukuyama and adjoining Fuchu (which will be assimilated) in a
> single year, and hundreds of abandoned bikes per season need to be hauled
> away from near the station.
>
> Maybe he was a freeter bike thief.

I'm certain this has been touched on before, but what do they do with
all those bikes? Recycle? I'm certain some (small) percentage get
reclaimed, but do they have police auctions of unclaimed bikes?

John W.

Eric Takabayashi

未読、
2003/06/18 13:38:062003/06/18
To:
"John W." wrote:

> Eric Takabayashi <eta...@yahoo.co.jp> wrote in message news:<3EF046AA...@yahoo.co.jp>...
> > "John W." wrote:
> >
> > > From Yomiuri:
> > >
> > > "Hiroshima man admits stealing 1,000 bikes"
> > > http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/newse/20030618wo21.htm
> > >
> > > "A 67-year-old man sent to prosecutors on suspicion of stealing about
> > > 20 bicycles has admitted stealing and selling more than 1,000 bicycles
> > > over a 31-year period, The Yomiuri Shimbun learned Tuesday."
> >
> > That's nothing. That's less than one a week over a 31 year period.
>
> I didn't think of it in that way. When taken from that perspective,
> I'd bet this guy's really a small timer.

Yes, you are missing the big criminals in the news. A thousand bikes, or 40,000 yen is not a lot
as crimes go.

The old man could make more money easier by raiding unattended houses. It is reported even lock
picking gangs are going at it the old way and simply breaking windows.

> > A flier I got in my mailbox claimed over 11,500 bicycles were reported
> > stolen in Fukuyama and adjoining Fuchu (which will be assimilated) in a
> > single year, and hundreds of abandoned bikes per season need to be hauled
> > away from near the station.
> >
> > Maybe he was a freeter bike thief.
>
> I'm certain this has been touched on before, but what do they do with
> all those bikes?

As for most thieves, they're probably too lazy to walk, which is why so many bicycles are simply
abandoned around downtown after use.

> Recycle? I'm certain some (small) percentage get
> reclaimed, but do they have police auctions of unclaimed bikes?

In this prefecture anyway, new bicycles are registered for a fee and an official bicycle tag (a
flexible metal band, easily removed) is applied. This is used as identification when a bicycle is
found, and the owner contacted. Bicycles which are hauled away may be sold to the public about
once a season. There are also thousands of unclaimed bicycles parked in neat lines in storage
areas under one underpass and under the train tracks.

I'm wondering where a North Korean ship got an overflowing load of used bicycles to take home.

Michael Cash

未読、
2003/06/22 7:18:092003/06/22
To:
On 17 Jun 2003 14:42:34 -0700, worth...@yahoo.com (John W.) belched
the alphabet and kept on going with:

What's the real deal on this? AFN picked this up as one of their token
Japanese news stories to carry. They reported that the 1,000 bikes
were stolen over a *three* year period.


--

Michael Cash

"There was a time, Mr. Cash, when I believed you must be the most useless
thing in the world. But that was before I read a Microsoft help file."

Prof. Ernest T. Bass
Mount Pilot College


http://www.sunfield.ne.jp/~mike/

Ed

未読、
2003/06/27 20:02:012003/06/27
To:

"John W." <worth...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:73fde4f0.03061...@posting.google.com...

> I'm certain this has been touched on before, but what do they do with
> all those bikes? Recycle? I'm certain some (small) percentage get
> reclaimed, but do they have police auctions of unclaimed bikes?

Sometimes it's the only way to get rid of your old mama-chari. Where I live,
they charge you about 3,000 yen to throw a bicycle away. This is only
possible for a couple hours a month. The train station is open year 'round
and the penalty for parking your bicycle for too long is the loss of your
bicycle.

Eric Takabayashi

未読、
2003/06/28 6:10:122003/06/28
To:
Ed wrote:

> "John W." <worth...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:73fde4f0.03061...@posting.google.com...
>
> > I'm certain this has been touched on before, but what do they do with
> > all those bikes? Recycle? I'm certain some (small) percentage get
> > reclaimed, but do they have police auctions of unclaimed bikes?
>
> Sometimes it's the only way to get rid of your old mama-chari. Where I live,
> they charge you about 3,000 yen to throw a bicycle away.

If it is at all decent, sell your bike at a secondhand shop. I once recovered
my stolen mountain bike months later, taken from a rice irrigation canal. It
was all rusted out, including the cables, and covered with mud and dead leaves.
They gave me 3,000 yen cash for it, and tried to sell it for 6,000, as was that
shop's norm with used bikes. They didn't even bother to clean it up or fix it.

John W.

未読、
2003/06/28 12:50:052003/06/28
To:
Eric Takabayashi <eta...@yahoo.co.jp> wrote in message news:<3EFD6984...@yahoo.co.jp>...

> Ed wrote:
>
> > "John W." <worth...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:73fde4f0.03061...@posting.google.com...
> >
> > > I'm certain this has been touched on before, but what do they do with
> > > all those bikes? Recycle? I'm certain some (small) percentage get
> > > reclaimed, but do they have police auctions of unclaimed bikes?
> >
> > Sometimes it's the only way to get rid of your old mama-chari. Where I live,
> > they charge you about 3,000 yen to throw a bicycle away.
>
> If it is at all decent, sell your bike at a secondhand shop. I once recovered
> my stolen mountain bike months later, taken from a rice irrigation canal. It
> was all rusted out, including the cables, and covered with mud and dead
> leaves.
> They gave me 3,000 yen cash for it, and tried to sell it for 6,000, as was
> that shop's norm with used bikes. They didn't even bother to clean it up or
>fix it.
>
I had good luck trading off to other gaijin. One guy bought my
mountain bike at a good price, another my mama chari, which I had
acquired the same way.

John W.

Bryan Parker

未読、
2003/06/28 15:30:022003/06/28
To:
worth...@yahoo.com (John W.) said:

>Eric Takabayashi <eta...@yahoo.co.jp> wrote in message news:<3EFD6984...@yahoo.co.jp>...
>> Ed wrote:
>>
>> > "John W." <worth...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > news:73fde4f0.03061...@posting.google.com...
>> >
>> > > I'm certain this has been touched on before, but what do they do with
>> > > all those bikes? Recycle? I'm certain some (small) percentage get
>> > > reclaimed, but do they have police auctions of unclaimed bikes?
>> >
>> > Sometimes it's the only way to get rid of your old mama-chari. Where I live,
>> > they charge you about 3,000 yen to throw a bicycle away.
>>
>> If it is at all decent, sell your bike at a secondhand shop. I once recovered
>> my stolen mountain bike months later, taken from a rice irrigation canal. It
>> was all rusted out, including the cables, and covered with mud and dead
>> leaves.
>> They gave me 3,000 yen cash for it, and tried to sell it for 6,000, as was
>> that shop's norm with used bikes. They didn't even bother to clean it up or
>>fix it.
>>

>I had good luck pawning off my worthless shit to unsuspecting gaigin fresh off the boat.

I fixed your spelling.


--
Bryan
gaijeneration -
noun: the act of propagating
noun: group of gaijenetically related organisms
constituting a single step in the line of descent
noun: the normal time between successive gaijenerations
(Example: "They had to wait a gaijeneration for that
prejudice to fade")
noun: all foreigners living at the same time or
of approximately the same age

Rindler Sigurd

未読、
2003/06/28 19:58:032003/06/28
To:
> If it is at all decent, sell your bike at a secondhand shop. I once
recovered
> my stolen mountain bike months later, taken from a rice irrigation canal.
It
> was all rusted out, including the cables, and covered with mud and dead
leaves.
> They gave me 3,000 yen cash for it, and tried to sell it for 6,000, as was
that
> shop's norm with used bikes. They didn't even bother to clean it up or fix
it.
>


This wouldn't work here in Tokyo (Mitaka area). The city office (recycle
center) pickes them up for free... but last year the came with a truck and
left empty again since 4 usable bikes were not good enough! They understand
recycling as "instant reselling without doing anything else".
Another good way is scatching your yellow stickers off and leave the bike
close to the station. Then they will collect it for free...
My home center takes the old bicycle if you buy a new one.

Sigi

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