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Peter Reeves

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2002/10/04 0:51:022002/10/04
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Hey howsit goin, just joined after watching every eva ep and movie in the
last 2 days. over and over again.

This is Re: End of Eva, at the very end, I think I've made up my mind what
exactly happened, but why does Shinji Try to strangle asuka? especially
after he said he was going to remain there a while and think about his past
from birth. and why was asuka there with him in the first place?
and are they at the antarctic?

But the rest, i think its all sorted. Thanks

Disaster

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2002/10/04 5:31:052002/10/04
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You spent two days watching it and you think it's all sorted? Interesting.
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Frank White

未読、
2002/10/04 8:58:442002/10/04
To:
In article <W69n9.26334$kd3....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
peter...@bigpond.com says...

>
>Hey howsit goin, just joined after watching every eva ep and movie in the
>last 2 days. over and over again.
>
>This is Re: End of Eva, at the very end, I think I've made up my mind what
>exactly happened, but why does Shinji Try to strangle asuka?

Shinji's main sexual experience has been choking his chicken. So he
thinks foreplay consists of choking Asuka.

^_^

>especially
>after he said he was going to remain there a while and think about his past
>from birth. and why was asuka there with him in the first place?

She either

A) Didn't get turned into LCL with everyone else due to being
in her Eva, or

B) Was the first one to return to her regular form, or

C) Shinji's lost what few marbles he had and is imagining
her presence.

>and are they at the antarctic?

Naw, they went to the beach instead.

>But the rest, i think its all sorted. Thanks

That's nice.

Can you explain it to us?

FW

Michael Wignall

未読、
2002/10/04 20:05:312002/10/04
To:
"Peter Reeves" <peter...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:W69n9.26334$kd3....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

> This is Re: End of Eva, at the very end, I think I've made
> up my mind what exactly happened, but why does Shinji
> Try to strangle asuka?

From the Eva Cardass masters movie card set: Drama card D-88
Title: "Kimochi warui" - Small print:

"Shinji renounced the world where all hearts had melted into one
and accepted each other unconditionally. His desire... to live
with 'others' -- other hearts that would sometimes reject him,
even deny him. That is why the first thing he did after coming to
his senses was to place his hands around Asuka's neck. To feel
the existence of an 'other'. To confirm (make sure of) rejection
and denial."

> especially after he said he was going to remain there a while
> and think about his past from birth. and why was asuka there
> with him in the first place?

The H-11 Hokan card explains this.

H-11 Hokan:
http://homepage.powerup.com.au/~wignall/H11lv1e.jpg
"Neither Yui, Rei nor Misato could do as a woman for Shinji. Asuka alone was
the only girl on equal footing with him. So, Shinji desired/sought after
Asuka. "I'm afraid of Misato and Ayanami." However, Shinji's crude affection
only hurt her. In the end, he used her as an object of lust/desire to
soothe/ console himself..."

(reverse side of card H-11 Hokan card)
http://homepage.powerup.com.au/~wignall/h11lv.jpg
"In the sea of LCL, Shinji wished for a world with other people. He desired
to meet them again, even if it meant he would be hurt and betrayed. And just
as he had hoped/wanted, Asuka was present in the new world. Only Asuka was
there beside him. The girl whom he had hurt, and who had been hurt by him.
But even so, she was the one he had hoped/wished for...."

> and are they at the antarctic?

No, they are back in reality, just on a back somewhere (presumably
somewhere in Japan, becuase you can see the remains of Lilith and
Lilith was standing over Japan).

--
Michael Wignall
"Tomorrow's just an excuse away..."

James M

未読、
2002/10/04 22:02:482002/10/04
To:

Peter Reeves <peter...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:W69n9.26334$kd3....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...


2 days!!
It took me two weeks and I felt like a basket case durning the last 4 days
of it!!

Rule #3 Do not piss-off the Giant Robot!
>


Sam Reeves

未読、
2002/10/04 23:15:332002/10/04
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Yeh. (its me again, my name is not peter, i started up another account).

Watched everything in the last two days, and still feel depressed majorly,
but, the websites and other friends i had talkes to about it, helped give
some explanation, and by watching EoE over and over again, thats how i came
up with my theories after only 2 days.

explain it to you? what?
well heres what i think, I choose to believe the theory that all of humanity
evolved and shinji, just like his dad, felt that he didnt deserve their
universal acceptance, but still wanted it, so stayed on earth to think about
stuff. you can see all the rest of humanity surrounding the glowing moon.
the red ring around it i reckon is the lcl soul mixture. Lilith dies, and
Rei III survives with her own soul, not a mix of Yui's body and Lilith's
soul.

Everyone else is on the moon (heh heh, so thats the reason behind the 'fly
me to the moon' ending ;D) and yeh,

another thing i dont get: how can a dead person evolve?


Disaster

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2002/10/05 5:53:132002/10/05
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O_o
Rei IS Lilith. There is no ReiIII soul, it is Lilith's soul thinking that
she is Rei.

Frank White

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2002/10/05 12:02:472002/10/05
To:
In article <pPsn9.1712$vg....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
alaka...@hotmail.com says...

<snip>

>another thing i dont get: how can a dead person evolve?

It's not so much a matter of evolution as a change in the state
of existance.

We believe that as long as the person wasn't dead too long,
their souls were caught up in Rei the Angel of Death's sweep.
So Misato and Ritsuko (and everyone killed in the assault on
NERV) are in the LCL soup, somewhere.

Kaji... probably not.

FW

Disaster

未読、
2002/10/07 7:25:172002/10/07
To:
"Frank White" <fwhite*NOSPAM*@colfax.com> wrote:
> We believe that as long as the person wasn't dead too long,
> their souls were caught up in Rei the Angel of Death's sweep.
> So Misato and Ritsuko (and everyone killed in the assault on
> NERV) are in the LCL soup, somewhere.
>
> Kaji... probably not.

Her name is Lilith. Not the Angel of Death.

Frank White

未読、
2002/10/07 21:49:322002/10/07
To:
In article <uq2rp2l...@corp.supernews.com>,
disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net says...

>
>"Frank White" <fwhite*NOSPAM*@colfax.com> wrote:
>> We believe that as long as the person wasn't dead too long,
>> their souls were caught up in Rei the Angel of Death's sweep.
>> So Misato and Ritsuko (and everyone killed in the assault on
>> NERV) are in the LCL soup, somewhere.
>>
>> Kaji... probably not.
>
>Her name is Lilith. Not the Angel of Death.

Well, let's see. She sweeps over all the world, eliminating
everyone's AT field anbd turning them into living yellow
snot...

Sounds like the Angel of Death no matter what you call her.

^_^


Disaster

未読、
2002/10/08 7:05:212002/10/08
To:
"Frank White" <fwhite*NOSPAM*@colfax.com> wrote:
> > Her name is Lilith. Not the Angel of Death.
>
> Well, let's see. She sweeps over all the world, eliminating
> everyone's AT field anbd turning them into living yellow
> snot...
>
> Sounds like the Angel of Death no matter what you call her.
>
> ^_^

I talk to you over USENET, I am not the human of USENET talking! Further
no one was killed when Lilith facilitated Instrumentality.

Sam Reeves

未読、
2002/10/08 8:39:472002/10/08
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hey hey hey. lets not be arguing semantics here :D

Disaster

未読、
2002/10/08 8:55:092002/10/08
To:
"Sam Reeves" <alaka...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> hey hey hey. lets not be arguing semantics here :D

I'd hardly count this as a semantic.

Sam Reeves

未読、
2002/10/08 9:06:162002/10/08
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well, argument over a title, wheter she is the angel of death or not doesnt
really matter, its just a title, and what she did remains the same. she
turned em all into GOO! GOO DAMMIT!
(or LCL if you want to be traditional)


Disaster

未読、
2002/10/08 10:38:342002/10/08
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It's not an argument. You are way off and I am right! There's nothing to
discuss. Lilith is not an Angel. Regardless of how relevant you think
titles are if you have ever watched NGE and discussed it to any length you
will quickly realize that names are VERY important!


Sam Reeves

未読、
2002/10/08 22:59:492002/10/08
To:
I never said she was in the first place.
It was Frank White.
I live for peace love and unity :D.


Sam Reeves

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2002/10/08 23:04:532002/10/08
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Sam Reeves

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2002/10/08 23:27:432002/10/08
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Sam Reeves

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2002/10/08 23:28:262002/10/08
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Sam Reeves

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2002/10/08 23:29:202002/10/08
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Disaster

未読、
2002/10/10 17:24:532002/10/10
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How many more times did you wish to state this?

Sam Reeves

未読、
2002/10/10 19:05:382002/10/10
To:
As I said in some other messages, Im havin a problem with outlook, It posts
my messages over and over again, sorry about this :)


Frank White

未読、
2002/10/10 22:00:052002/10/10
To:
In article <uqbsbf2...@corp.supernews.com>,
disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net says...

>
>"Sam Reeves" <alaka...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I never said she was in the first place.
>> It was Frank White.
>> I live for peace love and unity :D.
>
>How many more times did you wish to state this?

His computer/server/software is giving him problems.

I am the FW who exists inside your computer.

^_^

FW

Pen^3

未読、
2002/10/19 6:24:252002/10/19
To:
fwhite*NOSPAM*@colfax.com (Frank White) squawked:

> I am the FW who exists inside your computer.

Ah, so it's you who causes the BSOD.


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