12-y.o. boy admits to Nagasaki child murder
Eric Takabayashi
admitting to the crimes, what is scary is all the
acquaintances saying that the boy is "no different"
from other boys.
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12-y.o. boy admits to Nagasaki child murder
NAGASAKI -- A 12-year-old boy who has been under
interrogation since Wednesday morning admitted to the
murder of 4-year-old Shun Tanemoto earlier this month,
police said.
The first-grade junior high school student, whose name
is being withheld under the Juvenile Law, is accused of
kidnapping Shun from a retail outlet in the city and
stripping him naked before fatally hurling him from the
rooftop of a multistory car park on July 1.
Police have referred the boy's case to a child
consultation center, which will decide whether he
should be tried at a family court or should be taken
into protective custody to help his rehabilitation.
Under Japanese law, suspects cannot be charged unless
they are 14 or over.
Scott Reynolds
> What is scary is not the fact a 12 year old is
> admitting to the crimes, what is scary is all the
> acquaintances saying that the boy is "no different"
> from other boys.
I wonder if I'm the only one who finds the similarities between this
case and the notorious James Bulger murder in Britain to be absolutely
eerie.
http://www.crimelibrary.com/classics3/bulger/
When I heard about how the boy had been killed, and the circumstances of
his abduction, I immediately thought that the culprits must be boys not
many years older than the victim. How we find out that a 12-year-old boy
appears to be responsible. Creepy.
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Scott Reynolds s...@gol.com
neilmduffy
> On 7/9/2003 10:11 PM, Eric Takabayashi wrote:
>
> > What is scary is not the fact a 12 year old is
> > admitting to the crimes, what is scary is all the
> > acquaintances saying that the boy is "no different"
> > from other boys.
>
> I wonder if I'm the only one who finds the similarities between this
> case and the notorious James Bulger murder in Britain to be absolutely
> eerie.
>
Eric Takabayashi
>
> > What is scary is not the fact a 12 year old is
> > admitting to the crimes, what is scary is all the
> > acquaintances saying that the boy is "no different"
> > from other boys.
>
> I wonder if I'm the only one who finds the similarities between this
> case and the notorious James Bulger murder in Britain to be absolutely
> eerie.
>
> http://www.crimelibrary.com/classics3/bulger/
>
> When I heard about how the boy had been killed, and the circumstances of
> his abduction, I immediately thought that the culprits must be boys not
> many years older than the victim. How we find out that a 12-year-old boy
> appears to be responsible. Creepy.
What made you think that? I thought it was an adult pedophile who
prefers boys. There's been more of that reported recently.
Louise Bremner
> > I wonder if I'm the only one who finds the similarities between this
> > case and the notorious James Bulger murder in Britain to be absolutely
> > eerie.
> >
> The Times agrees with you:
>
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-740799,00.html
That requires registration, and they ask too many questions for my
comfort....
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Kevin Gowen
> I thought it was an adult pedophile who
Isn't that a redundancy?
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Scott Reynolds
> Scott Reynolds <s...@gol.com> wrote in message news:<beis0u$jbi$1...@newsflood.tokyo.att.ne.jp>...
>>When I heard about how the boy had been killed, and the circumstances of
>>his abduction, I immediately thought that the culprits must be boys not
>>many years older than the victim. Now we find out that a 12-year-old boy
>>appears to be responsible. Creepy.
[I corrected "How" to "Now" in the above. Now embarrassing!]
> What made you think that?
Because of the similarity of the circumstances to the Bulger case.
> I thought it was an adult pedophile who
> prefers boys. There's been more of that reported recently.
Really? In Japan? My impression is that in Japan such cases tend to be
reported as simple murders, and the sexual aspect is hushed up.
Ed
walk home in large groups complete with stern faced 11 year old group
leaders empowered with yellow flags and armbands, rather than just
meandering their way slowly back home, or to a friend's house or to a park
where they can hang out and be kids.
I figure this will last maybe all of a week before things settle down to the
normal routine of calling up neighbors at 6 pm and asking them if my son is
sitting in their living room playing video games with their son.
Eric Takabayashi
> > I thought it was an adult pedophile who
> > prefers boys. There's been more of that reported recently.
>
> Really? In Japan?
Sexual assaults or maybe kidnappings, but I didn't mean murders.
Michael Cash
belched the alphabet and kept on going with:
>On 7/11/2003 7:42 AM, Eric Takabayashi wrote:
>
>> Scott Reynolds <s...@gol.com> wrote in message news:<beis0u$jbi$1...@newsflood.tokyo.att.ne.jp>...
>
>>>When I heard about how the boy had been killed, and the circumstances of
>>>his abduction, I immediately thought that the culprits must be boys not
>>>many years older than the victim. Now we find out that a 12-year-old boy
>>>appears to be responsible. Creepy.
>
>[I corrected "How" to "Now" in the above. Now embarrassing!]
>
>> What made you think that?
>
>Because of the similarity of the circumstances to the Bulger case.
>
>> I thought it was an adult pedophile who
>> prefers boys. There's been more of that reported recently.
>
>Really? In Japan? My impression is that in Japan such cases tend to be
>reported as simple murders, and the sexual aspect is hushed up.
Adults usually do a better job of disposing of the bodies. Kinda hard
for a 12 year old kid to transport and hide a body, even that of a 4
year old.
--
Michael Cash
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masayuki yoshida
> On 7/11/2003 7:42 AM, Eric Takabayashi wrote:
>
> > Scott Reynolds <s...@gol.com> wrote in message news:<beis0u$jbi$1...@newsflood.tokyo.att.ne.jp>...
>
> >>When I heard about how the boy had been killed, and the circumstances of
> >>his abduction, I immediately thought that the culprits must be boys not
> >>many years older than the victim. Now we find out that a 12-year-old boy
> >>appears to be responsible. Creepy.
>
> [I corrected "How" to "Now" in the above. Now embarrassing!]
>
> > What made you think that?
>
> Because of the similarity of the circumstances to the Bulger case.
>
> > I thought it was an adult pedophile who
> > prefers boys. There's been more of that reported recently.
>
> Really? In Japan? My impression is that in Japan such cases tend to be
> reported as simple murders, and the sexual aspect is hushed up.
In a case where a serious offence is reported in Japanese quality
papers, they generally trend to use euphenistic expressions, so that
we have to kind of interprete such expressions into real meanings.
For example the expression of "boukou" (literaly, assault) generally
implies 'rape' where the offence was committed against women. The
expression 'seiteki itazura' often is used in a case where an adult
commits a kinky action as a pedopile, although 'itazura' can be
translated into 'mischief' as an ordinary usage.
Masayuki
Scott Reynolds
> In a case where a serious offence is reported in Japanese quality
> papers, they generally trend to use euphenistic expressions, so that
> we have to kind of interprete such expressions into real meanings.
> For example the expression of "boukou" (literaly, assault) generally
> implies 'rape' where the offence was committed against women. The
> expression 'seiteki itazura' often is used in a case where an adult
> commits a kinky action as a pedopile, although 'itazura' can be
> translated into 'mischief' as an ordinary usage.
"Seiteki itazura" is pretty easy to interpret, but the expression
"boukou" is rather misleading, it seems to me. After all, it is possible
for a woman (or a child) to be assaulted, but not sexually. I think that
at least in an English news source it would be customary to specify if
sexual assault or rape were involved in a particular crime.
masayuki yoshida
http://www12.mainichi.co.jp/news/search-news/881666/8f9790ab8140965c8ds-0-10.html
For instance, the expression 'fujo boukou' which is available in the
above Mainichi article seems to suggest that even if 'seiteki'
(sexual) is not used, 'boukou' with 'hujyo' refers to 'rape' against
women.
Masayuki
Scott Reynolds
It seems that the article is no longer available at that URL. :-(
masayuki yoshida
Try again.
http://www12.mainichi.co.jp/news/search-news/881711/965c8ds-20-35.html
Masayuki
Scott Reynolds
masayuki yoshida
Then please put a key term 'fujyoboukou' in a blank of the search
engine of http://www.mainichi.co.jp/.
Masayuki
Scott Reynolds
> Then please put a key term 'fujyoboukou' in a blank of the search
> engine of http://www.mainichi.co.jp/.
I see. That turned up quite a few. (Many of them were related to the
recent Waseda gang rape that triggered the silly comments from several
high-ranking LDP dudes.)
masayuki yoshida
> On 7/14/2003 7:45 AM, masayuki yoshida wrote:
>
> > Then please put a key term 'fujyoboukou' in a blank of the search
> > engine of http://www.mainichi.co.jp/.
>
> I see. That turned up quite a few. (Many of them were related to the
> recent Waseda gang rape that triggered the silly comments from several
> high-ranking LDP dudes.)
In light of the sensitivity of the Japanese language, 'fujyo' or
'fujin" seems to be slightly outofdate.
Masayuki
Scott Reynolds
Do you have a more up-to-date term to recommend? A katakana word, perhaps?
masayuki yoshida
> On 7/15/2003 2:01 AM, masayuki yoshida wrote:
> > Scott Reynolds <s...@gol.com> wrote in message
news:<bet2o2$675$1...@newsflood.tokyo.att.ne.jp>...
> >
> >>On 7/14/2003 7:45 AM, masayuki yoshida wrote:
> >>
> >>>Then please put a key term 'fujyoboukou' in a blank of the search
> >>>engine of http://www.mainichi.co.jp/.
> >>
> >>I see. That turned up quite a few. (Many of them were related to the
> >>recent Waseda gang rape that triggered the silly comments from several
> >>high-ranking LDP dudes.)
> >
> > In light of the sensitivity of the Japanese language, 'fujyo' or
> > 'fujin" seems to be slightly outofdate.
>
> Do you have a more up-to-date term to recommend? A katakana word, perhaps?
'Josei' or 'rediisu'? But I am not happy with them.
Masayuki
Scott Reynolds
> "Scott Reynolds" <s...@gol.com> wrote in message
> news:bevkau$6ti$1...@newsflood.tokyo.att.ne.jp...
>
>>On 7/15/2003 2:01 AM, masayuki yoshida wrote:
>>
>>>Scott Reynolds <s...@gol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:<bet2o2$675$1...@newsflood.tokyo.att.ne.jp>...
>
>>>>On 7/14/2003 7:45 AM, masayuki yoshida wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Then please put a key term 'fujyoboukou' in a blank of the search
>>>>>engine of http://www.mainichi.co.jp/.
>>>>
>>>>I see. That turned up quite a few. (Many of them were related to the
>>>>recent Waseda gang rape that triggered the silly comments from several
>>>>high-ranking LDP dudes.)
>>>
>>>In light of the sensitivity of the Japanese language, 'fujyo' or
>>>'fujin" seems to be slightly outofdate.
>>
>>Do you have a more up-to-date term to recommend? A katakana word, perhaps?
>
>
> 'Josei' or 'rediisu'? But I am not happy with them.
The gairaigo "reepu" already has some currency. Why not "rediizu
assaruto"? Once (inevitably) shortened to something snappy like
"redassa" it might just catch on.
masayuki yoshida
The 'reduuzu assaruto' may be feasible, Mr Score.
Ma-yo