Not looking for a direct translation but the sort of slang that will
let some idiot know - hey watch it you are about 3 seconds from
getting your ass kicked.
"Whatch where you`re going asshole" said in English didn`t have the
desired effect although me giving one of the offenders an impolite
shove did get a long string of bows and sumimasens.
Wife tells me it is something like "aha boka" if we were in the Kansai
area but she doesn`t know what you would say here near Tokyo.
"iku no hou mite (yo)" literally means "watch in the direction you are going". I
find I use this a fair bit.
I also use "stop bowing and get out of the fucking way" on a regular basis, the
most recent on Thursday night as an entire company was saying goodbye to someone
at the entrance to the Akasaka subway. Amazingly it seems to work without
translating it.
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bakayarou should suffice, but depending on your accent it might have the
opposite of the intended effect (intimidation I guess?)
I always just smile and say sumimasen, myself. Although to be honest, when
people bump into me they tend to kind of bounce off. No idea what size you
are, but if I were smaller and more frequently in large crowds, I might get
upset at all the jostling.
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She probably meant "aho ka?" yada "ahondara" yada "aho yarou". All of these
are used in Kansai area and among them "ahondara" is most offensive and my
personal favorite.
I actually asked her for what a Yak would say. Basically something so
rude and insulting that the guy would either want to hit me or know he
was about to get hit. Either way would be appropriate.
Noone is going to bump into me and make a dent short of a sumo - I`m a
big guy and a good bit past hefty to boot. My problem was people
trying to run over my stroller and 4 month old - the guy who got
pushed almost got his ass kicked when he almost knocked the stroller
over then proceeded to give the wheel a kick as he was going past. If
my wife had been nearby to hand the stroller to so I wouldn`t have had
to leave it unattended I probably wouldn`t have started anything
anyway but expressing my opinion of his jackassian manners in a
language he understood would have been nice.
Anyone who thinks the Japanese are polite and orderly has never been
between a herd of them and the free food at a supermarket on Sunday
afternoons - the second that free sample is put down you had better
not be between them and the food...
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>>
>> bakayarou should suffice, but depending on your accent it might have the
>> opposite of the intended effect (intimidation I guess?)
>>
>> I always just smile and say sumimasen, myself. Although to be honest, when
>> people bump into me they tend to kind of bounce off. No idea what size you
>> are, but if I were smaller and more frequently in large crowds, I might get
>> upset at all the jostling.
>
>I actually asked her for what a Yak would say.
Hah. My term, seen in the wild!
>Basically something so
>rude and insulting that the guy would either want to hit me or know he
>was about to get hit. Either way would be appropriate.
>
>Noone is going to bump into me and make a dent short of a sumo - I`m a
>big guy and a good bit past hefty to boot. My problem was people
>trying to run over my stroller and 4 month old - the guy who got
>pushed almost got his ass kicked when he almost knocked the stroller
>over then proceeded to give the wheel a kick as he was going past. If
>my wife had been nearby to hand the stroller to so I wouldn`t have had
>to leave it unattended I probably wouldn`t have started anything
>anyway but expressing my opinion of his jackassian manners in a
>language he understood would have been nice.
Not only is it the words that count, it's the way you say them, and the look on
your face while saying them. Yaks have the monopoly on the scary language, with
the near-scream and the furrowed brow and the rolling R's. Especially the
rolling R's. Temee DOKO ARUITONNJA ORRRRRRRRRAAAAAA. Makes the common citizen
flee in fear, and Yaks respond in kind whether they're outmatched or not.
Not that I've ever used this sort of threat display, however, except when I was
almost T-boned by some stupid obasan who barreled out of a side street right in
front of my grille one day. I can do a pretty good impression of an angry Yak,
for a gaigin.
>Anyone who thinks the Japanese are polite and orderly has never been
>between a herd of them and the free food at a supermarket on Sunday
>afternoons - the second that free sample is put down you had better
>not be between them and the food...
You don't even need food to get people to be assholes. All you need is an open
train door during the U-Turn Rush. BGRF#`$+&#XG{`%LFUCK#`{+%'GET THE FUCK OUT OF
THE W`#$&{`D&HGODAMMIT"#%`&#`{$%+&LEMME OFF YOU FUCKING PRIC#$%{&+${`%'(.
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My basic rule is to carry the kid in situations like that. When he gets
about 10 that might be harder.
> Anyone who thinks the Japanese are polite and orderly has never been
> between a herd of them and the free food at a supermarket on Sunday
> afternoons - the second that free sample is put down you had better
> not be between them and the food...
Anonymous situations tend to bring out the worst in the Japanese. That's
true of human beings in general, but particularly of Japanese.
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I've always wondered why everyone wants to live in the large urban
centers so much for reasons like this. The streets are so crowded that
you can't push a stroller without people bumping it, or the people are
so rude that they bump into a stroller without caring. Had many such
issues in Himeji and Kobe, and both are much less crowded than Tokyo.
John W.
> I also use "stop bowing and get out of the fucking way" on a regular
basis, the
> most recent on Thursday night as an entire company was saying goodbye to
someone
> at the entrance to the Akasaka subway. Amazingly it seems to work without
> translating it.
This also works on the road when some idiot is bowing at you as they cut you
off. You just have to make sure you have your window rolled down and stick
your head out of the window as you are saying it so they can see your mad
gaigin face.
What I have a problem with are the gangs of funeral goers that congregate in
the middle of the street. You know, the ones that are all wearing black
suits with white ties. They don't pay the slightest attention to the fact
that they are parked in the middle of the street, that they are all standing
in the middle of the street, and that they are lucky I don't have a cannon
mounted on the hood of my car. If you yell at them, they get what I call
"nip-lock TM" which stops all brain activity. They just sit there looking
like idiots in their funeral garb as they try to grasp the idea that
somebody would taint their funeral with a request to get their thumbs out of
their butts and get the fuck off the street.
> What I have a problem with are the gangs of funeral goers that congregate
> in the middle of the street. You know, the ones that are all wearing black
> suits with white ties.
Uh.... I thought that was the uniform for weddings. The same black suits
but with black ties is funerals.
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Me three. I would be quite happy living in Nagoya, Hiroshima, or Fukuoka but
there simply isn't the work for me.
I use the Odakyu-sen which has a reputation for being one of the worst in Tokyo
(100 trains between 7am and 9am). In spite of the crush I find the people are
very good. There is always someone making room to read a book or drapping a
newspaper over a girl head but these are not that common. Getting off is easy,
just gently push and a path opens, no one says sumimasen (if you do, people look
embarrased), a simple orimasu (getting off) is enough.
However everything changes on Friday nights when drunk people are trying to get
their sorry arses home. People hanging from the straps doing circles with the
movement of the train or sleeping leaning against people get well placed elbows.
I cracked one guy on the head with my mobile as he was leaning all over the girl
sitting next to him.
Amazing these people wake up when they get to their stations. It is a miracle.
/
> "another fool" <anoth...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
>>big guy and a good bit past hefty to boot. My problem was people
>>trying to run over my stroller and 4 month old - the guy who got
>>pushed almost got his ass kicked when he almost knocked the stroller
>>over then proceeded to give the wheel a kick as he was going past. If
>
> My basic rule is to carry the kid in situations like that. When he gets
> about 10 that might be harder.
What is it with all the bloody baby strollers these days? It used to be
that only gaigin were clueless enough to try to wheel them onto trains
and the like. Now even Japanese people are doing it.
And to the OP, why don't you just take the first flight back to wherever
it is you came from? With your attitude (as evidenced from this and the
recent bicycle threads) you are never going to be able to enjoy living
here. It's best you just accepted that now.
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Well, right. If you're going to insist on living in a large urban center
you need to accept that you will have to deal with crowds and adapt
accordingly. I don't think anyone should be forced to live in a big city
if they don't want to, just as no one should be forced to live in the
country involuntarily.
>Ed <gwb...@whitehouse.com> wrote:
>
>> What I have a problem with are the gangs of funeral goers that congregate
>> in the middle of the street. You know, the ones that are all wearing black
>> suits with white ties.
>
>Uh.... I thought that was the uniform for weddings. The same black suits
>but with black ties is funerals.
Same difference.
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Not a terrible guess, we had gone down into town to do some shopping
since our local grocery is a bit limited. But then I'd hardly call
Atsugi a "large urban center".
And someone was right - I do remember seeing many more strollers then
I remember in years past - I had put it down to being more sensative
to the issue since I am normally pushing my own. But then I also saw
a younger fellow give his seat to a lady carrying a kid the last week
on the train so maybe we are witnessing the next sign of the
apocolypse.
Good - they're already dressed for the funeral - give them another one to go to.
John W.
As Michael so eloquently put it "same difference".