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John W.

未読、
2004/04/06 20:16:192004/04/06
To:
<insert a ton of bitching>

John W.

Elbow

未読、
2004/04/07 5:58:052004/04/07
To:

"John W." <worth...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:40734853...@yahoo.com...

> <insert a ton of bitching>
>
> John W.

We should start a tag team

Elbow Against ID Checks


John W.

未読、
2004/04/07 11:00:352004/04/07
To:
"Elbow" <tokyoelb...@totalise.co.uk> wrote in message news:<c50jbi$2mhpe3$1...@ID-220360.news.uni-berlin.de>...

> "John W." <worth...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:40734853...@yahoo.com...
> > <insert a ton of bitching>
> >
> > John W.
>
> We should start a tag team
>
<b>
<font size=WAY BIG style=double underline>
<insert bitch moan complain rant against the subtle and not so subtle
prejudices of society that won't hire 34 year olds for entry level
jobs gripe about companies that don't understand it's not the
employees fault if they get laid off four times in as many years>

</b>


> Elbow Against ID Checks

John W. against unemployment checks

Michael Cash

未読、
2004/04/07 13:03:242004/04/07
To:
On 7 Apr 2004 08:00:35 -0700, worth...@yahoo.com (John W.) brought
down from the Mount tablets inscribed:

>"Elbow" <tokyoelb...@totalise.co.uk> wrote in message news:<c50jbi$2mhpe3$1...@ID-220360.news.uni-berlin.de>...
>> "John W." <worth...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:40734853...@yahoo.com...
>> > <insert a ton of bitching>
>> >
>> > John W.
>>
>> We should start a tag team
>>
><b>
><font size=WAY BIG style=double underline>
><insert bitch moan complain rant against the subtle and not so subtle
>prejudices of society that won't hire 34 year olds for entry level
>jobs gripe about companies that don't understand it's not the
>employees fault if they get laid off four times in as many years>


USN recruits up to age 38, last I heard. I feel pretty sure they'll
give you a job for four years.

--

Michael Cash

"I am sorry, Mr. Cash, but we are unable to accept your rap sheet in lieu of
a high school transcript."

Dr. Howard Sprague
Dean of Admissions
Mount Pilot College

John W.

未読、
2004/04/07 13:36:492004/04/07
To:
Michael Cash wrote:
> On 7 Apr 2004 08:00:35 -0700, worth...@yahoo.com (John W.) brought
> down from the Mount tablets inscribed:
>
>
>>"Elbow" <tokyoelb...@totalise.co.uk> wrote in message news:<c50jbi$2mhpe3$1...@ID-220360.news.uni-berlin.de>...
>>
>>>"John W." <worth...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:40734853...@yahoo.com...
>>>
>>>><insert a ton of bitching>
>>>>
>>>>John W.
>>>
>>>We should start a tag team
>>>
>>
>><b>
>><font size=WAY BIG style=double underline>
>><insert bitch moan complain rant against the subtle and not so subtle
>>prejudices of society that won't hire 34 year olds for entry level
>>jobs gripe about companies that don't understand it's not the
>>employees fault if they get laid off four times in as many years>
>
>
>
> USN recruits up to age 38, last I heard. I feel pretty sure they'll
> give you a job for four years.
>
I tried that several years ago; it was a dream of mine, of sorts, for
most of my life. Turns out that my eyes are too bad, even though their
corrected 20/20. I even got rejected by WalMart and Starbucks, and they
hire everybody.

I'm thinking of selling my chest hair to make wigs or brooms or something.

John W.

Elbow

未読、
2004/04/08 3:27:272004/04/08
To:

> >>
> >>>"John W." <worth...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:40734853...@yahoo.com...

>


> I'm thinking of selling my chest hair to make wigs or brooms or something.
>
> John W.

In a UK job centre its prohibited to advertise a job with an age limit.
Well it was the last time I was there.

I told you this place is fcuked up.
Just then.

Why does the Government offices in Shinjuku hire 2 old ladies to stand by
the escalator looking into space and doing naff all?
In the words of Ian Dury 'What a waste what a waste but I dont mind'


Eric Takabayashi

未読、
2004/04/08 10:14:112004/04/08
To:
"John W." wrote:

> "Elbow" <tokyoelb...@totalise.co.uk> wrote in message news:<c50jbi$2mhpe3$1...@ID-220360.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> > "John W." <worth...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:40734853...@yahoo.com...
> > > <insert a ton of bitching>
> > >
> > > John W.
> >
> > We should start a tag team
> >
> <b>
> <font size=WAY BIG style=double underline>
> <insert bitch moan complain rant against the subtle and not so subtle
> prejudices of society that won't hire 34 year olds for entry level
> jobs gripe about companies that don't understand it's not the
> employees fault if they get laid off four times in as many years>

That is really terrible. I can't believe that even Wal Mart or Starbucks would discriminate against people that way.
My older brother, going on 40, also lost his job and a lot of assets to the IT bust, and is still retraining and
looking, years later. With the recent focus on "outsourcing" of even IT jobs, I can understand how such things can
happen, and I doubt many trained people can feel secure in a job again.

But considering how your wife's future was looking after getting her PhD (was that you?), how do the two of you feel
about you being the homemaker, perhaps with a part time job with no particular future to supplement your income,
while your wife earned the money at a more promising job? My brother's wife has what sounds to be a fine career in
one of the big accounting firms, and I wonder if he has considered staying home for the family.

I mean no insult. It was and is what many educated women with work experience have done for their families, perhaps
sacrificing their own careers or happiness. Men have to be prepared to do the same. If my wife were somehow able to
get about six times what she currently made, or even a little more than I made, I would consider staying home to do
the housework (I can clean and do laundry as well as my wife, but I'd have to learn to cook) and do something part
time on my own just to keep me busy or supplement our income. It would be cool to be so different from the other
families.

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John W.

未読、
2004/04/08 10:36:452004/04/08
To:
"Elbow" <tokyoelb...@totalise.co.uk> wrote in message news:<c52ut3$2npro9$1...@ID-220360.news.uni-berlin.de>...

> > >>
> > >>>"John W." <worth...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >>>news:40734853...@yahoo.com...
>
> >
> > I'm thinking of selling my chest hair to make wigs or brooms or something.
> >
> > John W.
>
> In a UK job centre its prohibited to advertise a job with an age limit.
> Well it was the last time I was there.
>
The beauty is that there's no accountability whatsoever. An employer
doesn't have to tell me why they don't hire me; and in Tennessee (and
many/most other states that have 'at will employment) they don't even
have to say why they fire someone.

The biggest obstacle I face is being overqualified. Twice in the past
week or so I've been told that I'm way overqualified for the position,
thanks for applying anyway, we'll keep your resume on file when a
management position opens up (though they probably promote from
within). Sheesh, inherent in being overqualified is being qualified,
and daddy needs to pay the bills.

John W.

John W.

未読、
2004/04/08 12:37:552004/04/08
To:
Eric Takabayashi wrote:
> "John W." wrote:
>
>
>>"Elbow" <tokyoelb...@totalise.co.uk> wrote in message news:<c50jbi$2mhpe3$1...@ID-220360.news.uni-berlin.de>...
>>
>>>"John W." <worth...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:40734853...@yahoo.com...
>>>
>>>><insert a ton of bitching>
>>>>
>>>>John W.
>>>
>>>We should start a tag team
>>>
>>
>><b>
>><font size=WAY BIG style=double underline>
>><insert bitch moan complain rant against the subtle and not so subtle
>>prejudices of society that won't hire 34 year olds for entry level
>>jobs gripe about companies that don't understand it's not the
>>employees fault if they get laid off four times in as many years>
>
>
> That is really terrible. I can't believe that even Wal Mart or Starbucks would discriminate against people that way.
> My older brother, going on 40, also lost his job and a lot of assets to the IT bust, and is still retraining and
> looking, years later. With the recent focus on "outsourcing" of even IT jobs, I can understand how such things can
> happen, and I doubt many trained people can feel secure in a job again.
>
From things I've read, what employers feel is that someone with an
advanced degree and/or other advanced training is more likely to leave
than someone with no other real options. Sucks, and unfortunately
there's no way to convince to the contrary.I'm also working on some tech
certifications to quantify what I already know.

> But considering how your wife's future was looking after getting her PhD (was that you?), how do the two of you feel
> about you being the homemaker, perhaps with a part time job with no particular future to supplement your income,
> while your wife earned the money at a more promising job? My brother's wife has what sounds to be a fine career in
> one of the big accounting firms, and I wonder if he has considered staying home for the family.
>

I'd love to be the homemaker; that's actually why I'd be content with a
job at Starbucks. Her salary is just enough to pay for living expenses;
any emergency would break us. Once she becomes a full-fledged researcher
(right now doing the post doctoral research) we'll be alright.

> I mean no insult. It was and is what many educated women with work experience have done for their families, perhaps
> sacrificing their own careers or happiness. Men have to be prepared to do the same. If my wife were somehow able to
> get about six times what she currently made, or even a little more than I made, I would consider staying home to do
> the housework (I can clean and do laundry as well as my wife, but I'd have to learn to cook) and do something part
> time on my own just to keep me busy or supplement our income. It would be cool to be so different from the other
> families.
>

No doubt. I was talking with my friend and lamenting the fact that most
likely I will be unable to enjoy my retirement. He said I should
consider myself right now enjoying my retirement. So that's what I'm
trying to do. It is also spurring my desire to go back to Japan for a
year and take my son. There might never be another option for him to
spend a year in Japan, learning Japanese and spending time with my inlaws.

John W.

Elbow

未読、
2004/04/08 20:54:452004/04/08
To:

"John W." <worth...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:40757FE3...@yahoo.com...


A friend of mine has had the same problem with being over qualied.
He is a teacher and used to teach in his home country.
He now sends out 2 types of resume
one has all his qualifications and the other is 'slimmed down'.
He has had some success using this method.


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