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SR

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2003/11/25 6:31:392003/11/25
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via LAX as transit passenger requires a visa for the USA!!!
A Brazilian friend had to postpone his Christmas visit to Brazil since he
didn't know about this stupid rule. The only other option was avoiding the
USA, but this is a rather costly endeavour...


Sigi

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Gerry

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2003/11/25 20:56:052003/11/25
To:
In article <3fc33...@cosmos.uncensored-news.com>, SR
<srin...@da2.so-net.ne.jp> wrote:

> via LAX as transit passenger requires a visa for the USA!!!

Jeez! Are you saying if you *bounce* at LAX, hang for an hour and
leave you still need a visa? Amazing!

> A Brazilian friend had to postpone his Christmas visit to Brazil since he
> didn't know about this stupid rule. The only other option was avoiding the
> USA, but this is a rather costly endeavour...

--
///--- Vote for the richest Republican. He understand the common man.

Ryan Ginstrom

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2003/11/25 21:23:282003/11/25
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"Gerry" <222...@adelphia.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:251120031756054864%222...@adelphia.net.invalid...

> In article <3fc33...@cosmos.uncensored-news.com>, SR
> <srin...@da2.so-net.ne.jp> wrote:
>
> > via LAX as transit passenger requires a visa for the USA!!!
>
> Jeez! Are you saying if you *bounce* at LAX, hang for an hour and
> leave you still need a visa? Amazing!

Yeah, this all changed after 9/11. I remember some Homeland Security type
going on about how they were going to plug a significant hole in the
nation's security, how somebody without a visa could hang out at a US
airport...

Yet one more reason I don't live there!

--
Regards,
Ryan Ginstrom

cc

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2003/11/25 22:56:032003/11/25
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"Ryan Ginstrom" <gins...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> > > via LAX as transit passenger requires a visa for the USA!!!
> >
> > Jeez! Are you saying if you *bounce* at LAX, hang for an hour and
> > leave you still need a visa? Amazing!
>
> Yeah, this all changed after 9/11. I remember some Homeland Security type
> going on about how they were going to plug a significant hole in the
> nation's security, how somebody without a visa could hang out at a US
> airport...

As if terros had no visas.

> Yet one more reason I don't live there!

There was the same sort of rule when you were living there as kid, no ?
I remember my parents had to get a "transit visa" for a 20 minutes stop in
Texas on their way to Mexico. In fact, they were not even allowed to hang
out in the airport, they had to stay in the plane ! That was Cold War then.
People had one day been member of any communist organisation were not even
allowed to take that flight, they were not given the transit visa. They had
to go via Canada. I guess people do the same now and probably Canadian
airports are happy of the situation.

CC

mr.sumo snr.

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2003/11/26 1:02:432003/11/26
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"SR" <srin...@da2.so-net.ne.jp> wrote in message
news:3fc33...@cosmos.uncensored-news.com...

> via LAX as transit passenger requires a visa for the USA!!!
> A Brazilian friend had to postpone his Christmas visit to Brazil since he
> didn't know about this stupid rule. The only other option was avoiding the
> USA, but this is a rather costly endeavour...
>
>

That reminds me to ask any UKlanders who have just - I'm talking in the last
month - renewed their passport at the Embassy in Tokyo if they received a
machine-readable version or just the regular one without the stripes on the
last page.

The consular section assured me in August that they'd have the necessary new
equipment installed by November in order to issue machine-readable
passports. Not that I need an excuse to take another trip up the 'big
smoke' - well actually 'YES" I do need an excuse...

--
jonathan
--
"Never give a visa to ducks"


Ryan Ginstrom

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2003/11/26 3:04:412003/11/26
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"cc" <cpasune...@spam.com> wrote in message
news:bq18fp$7iv$1...@bgsv5648.tk.mesh.ad.jp...

> There was the same sort of rule when you were living there as kid, no ?
> I remember my parents had to get a "transit visa" for a 20 minutes stop in
> Texas on their way to Mexico.

Yes, and this new/old policy represents one more giant step [fill in blank].

--
Regards,
Ryan Ginstrom

Michael Cash

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2003/11/26 4:50:092003/11/26
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On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:56:03 +0900, "cc" <cpasune...@spam.com>
belched the alphabet and kept on going with:

>
>"Ryan Ginstrom" <gins...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
>> > > via LAX as transit passenger requires a visa for the USA!!!
>> >
>> > Jeez! Are you saying if you *bounce* at LAX, hang for an hour and
>> > leave you still need a visa? Amazing!
>>
>> Yeah, this all changed after 9/11. I remember some Homeland Security type
>> going on about how they were going to plug a significant hole in the
>> nation's security, how somebody without a visa could hang out at a US
>> airport...
>
>As if terros had no visas.

Actually, some of the 911 gang weren't issued visas until *after* the
incident, so you need to revise that remark.


Declan Murphy

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2003/11/26 5:16:172003/11/26
To:
Michael Cash wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:56:03 +0900, "cc" <cpasune...@spam.com>
> belched the alphabet and kept on going with:

>>As if terros had no visas.


>
> Actually, some of the 911 gang weren't issued visas until *after* the
> incident, so you need to revise that remark.

You can obtain a visa posthumously?

--
"Beyond the Euphrates began for us the land of mirage and danger, the
sands where one helplessly sank, and the roads which ended in nothing.
The slightest reversal would have resulted in a jolt to our prestige
giving rise to all kinds of catastrophe; the problem was not only to
conquer but to conquer again and again, perpetually; our forces would be
drained off in the attempt." - Emperor Hadrian AD 117-138

Michael Cash

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2003/11/26 6:32:592003/11/26
To:
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:16:17 +0900, Declan Murphy
<declan...@hotmail.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going
with:

>Michael Cash wrote:
>> On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:56:03 +0900, "cc" <cpasune...@spam.com>
>> belched the alphabet and kept on going with:
>
>>>As if terros had no visas.
>>
>> Actually, some of the 911 gang weren't issued visas until *after* the
>> incident, so you need to revise that remark.
>
>You can obtain a visa posthumously?

Some of those guys did. It caused a bit of an uproar.


cc

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2003/11/26 9:02:362003/11/26
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"Michael Cash" <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> wrote in message

> >As if terros had no visas.
>
> Actually, some of the 911 gang weren't issued visas until *after* the
> incident, so you need to revise that remark.

OK.
As if all the terros had no visas.

CC

Rafael Caetano

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2003/11/28 6:27:402003/11/28
To:
"Ryan Ginstrom" <gins...@hotmail.com> wrote
> "Gerry" <222...@adelphia.net.invalid> wrote

> > Jeez! Are you saying if you *bounce* at LAX, hang for
> > an hour and leave you still need a visa? Amazing!
>
> Yeah, this all changed after 9/11. I remember some Homeland

When I came (in April) they didn't require a visa but we had to
check-in the luggage again. Some people were searched, had to remove
their shoes, etc. This added about 2 hours to an already quite long
trip.

Later they started to require a visa. Ridiculous.

> Security type going on about how they were going to plug a
> significant hole in the nation's security, how somebody
> without a visa could hang out at a US
> airport...

But even before 9/11, we couldn't "hang out" at the airpoirt.
People without US visas had to stay at a waiting room. Reasonable.

BTW, it shouldn't be news to you, but I was amazed by the contrast
between airport service in US and Japan. In US many workers were not
only unpolite but sometimes downright rude to their "customers" (?).
They seemed to hate their own jobs.
Well, maybe the Japanese also do, but I'd rather cope with gozaimasugo
than swearing.

Rafael

Ryan Ginstrom

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2003/11/28 21:57:472003/11/28
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"Rafael Caetano" <rcae...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:94a6da7.03112...@posting.google.com...

> BTW, it shouldn't be news to you, but I was amazed by the contrast
> between airport service in US and Japan. In US many workers were not
> only unpolite but sometimes downright rude to their "customers" (?).

In the airports there are two problems -- the rentacops getting $6/hour
(supposed to be much fewer now), and the federal employees who are shitbags.
I hate dealing with government employees in any country, and avoid it
wherever possible.

--
Regards,
Ryan Ginstrom

John W.

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2003/11/28 22:24:172003/11/28
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I actually applied to be a baggage screener here in the US. Didn't get
the job, not sure why. Part of the test was a psych profile. I figure
that was the problem.

John W.

Haluk Skywalker

未読、
2003/11/28 22:55:052003/11/28
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"John W." <worth...@yahoo.komm>, haber iletisinde sunlari
yazdi:3FC81161...@yahoo.komm...

With you or with those who'd been hired?

On my visit to Tel Aviv, I checked in all my luggage. I was just carrying a
sweater. Guard asked me put it through scanner. When I pointed that it was
easier for him to just check it by hand he responded "My job isn't make
things easier". I guess he meant "we paid shit load of money for this thing,
you know. Let's see how it works..."

I've been through 3 checkpoints until the airport and at each checkpoint I
was pointed light machineguns.

Entering the country took only 15 minutes or so, but getting out and
boarding plane took about 2 hours.


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