Food safety: Carp herpes
Eric Takabayashi
foreign sources despite there not being any import of
carp, 85% of the farmed stock have been lost to the
disease. Transfer, and thus sale, of carp has been
banned for a month in Ibaraki. This is being asked to
die, says a fisherman. Reporters are sympathetic.
Restaurants which serve carp put up signs proclaiming
eating even diseased fish to have absolutely no effect
on humans. The fish in the area are not ordered
destroyed for study or safety. The stocks nationwide
are not culled. As a matter of fact, the dead fish are
left to rot by the thousands, apparently without
concern that they are contaminating that water and
everything else sharing that body of water, with virus
or through putrefaction.
How different it is when some imported food is
discovered to have some problem no matter how slight,
and Japan slaps on a complete ban, as with British
beef, and people like myself donating blood are asked
if they have simply been to Europe (actually, ANYWHERE
abroad, ever), or Subway Sandwich cannot serve
sandwiches, lest the Japanese be contaminated. What the
effect on Japan and Japanese would be is not explained.
It is enough to publicize something was not right with
the foreign food, and the people will react.
And again, the Japanese problem is blamed on a foreign
source. A virus which never existed in Japan, says the
news, as people are looking into how it came into
Japan. As a matter of fact, it had never been seen
ANYWHERE in the world until recent years, so who is to
say where it actually existed first, where it came
from, or whose or which country's "fault" it is for
being in Japan? Same for BSE.
Michael Cash
<eta...@yahoo.co.jp> belched the alphabet and kept on going with:
>How different it is when some imported food is
>discovered to have some problem no matter how slight,
>and Japan slaps on a complete ban, as with British
>beef, and people like myself donating blood are asked
>if they have simply been to Europe (actually, ANYWHERE
>abroad, ever), or Subway Sandwich cannot serve
>sandwiches, lest the Japanese be contaminated. What the
>effect on Japan and Japanese would be is not explained.
>It is enough to publicize something was not right with
>the foreign food, and the people will react.
What does Mino Monta have to say about all this? I base my dietary
practices solely on his pronouncements.
Check out this story:
http://www.fnn-news.com/headlines/CONN00041344.html
I'm interested in hearing if others have the same view of it that I
did.
SR
> practices solely on his pronouncements.
>
Ask Shintaro Ishihara. He probably says that a gaijin has spit into the fish
bond.
BTW, I wonder if I ever eat any carp here in Japan.
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Marc
"Eric Takabayashi" <eta...@yahoo.co.jp> wrote in message
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> And again, the Japanese problem is blamed on a foreign
> source. A virus which never existed in Japan, says the
> news, as people are looking into how it came into
> Japan. As a matter of fact, it had never been seen
> ANYWHERE in the world until recent years, so who is to
> say where it actually existed first, where it came
> from, or whose or which country's "fault" it is for
> being in Japan? Same for BSE.
>
I keep remembering the stories about how foreign rice and other foods should
be kept out of Japan because they have "high residues of pesticides". Then I
read a report in the Economist that noted that Japan uses among the highest
amounts of pesticides per m2 of farmland of any country in the world.
Well, perhaps it is democracy in action. Foreigners don't vote.
Eric Takabayashi
> > What does Mino Monta have to say about all this? I base my dietary
> > practices solely on his pronouncements.
>
> Ask Shintaro Ishihara. He probably says that a gaijin has spit into the fish
> bond.
> BTW, I wonder if I ever eat any carp here in Japan.
Considering there is a ban on import of edible and ornamental carp, I'm sure they will blame it
on some foreign worker or Japanese breeder who has been abroad.
As it is, the news says there have been only a handful of countries where carp herpes have ever
appeared, beginning with Israel, of all places.
Eric Takabayashi
Back when, a series of findings showed Japan had the highest levels of
environmental dioxin in the world, far beyond where Germany would dispose of
even the topsoil in agricultural or residential land. Meanwhile, the Osaka
governor appeared to eat the local produce and proclaim it delicious. I don't
recall he actually said it was safe. A TV network had to apologize for causing
a misunderstanding about "green vegetables" which harmed the sales of another
area.
Japanese have already forgotten about having the highest levels of the claimed
most toxic substance on earth. Now they blame foreign countries for BSE,
pesticides, acid rain, alien species, GM food, additives, enzymes and carp
herpes.
Nice things like Tamachan they claim for Japan.
Dick Muhfukkin Bagswing
> Nice things like Tamachan they claim for Japan.
And baseball.
And pizza.
And spaghetti.
And cars.
ad nauseam.
Brian
Michael Cash
belched the alphabet and kept on going with:
>
Yeah, but Japanese farmers use real safe pesticides. I know this must
be true because very often I see them out applying a fog of chemicals
to their crops and almost never do I see any of them using any sort of
safety equipment.
Eric Takabayashi
> On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 04:38:50 GMT, "Marc" <box5...@spamtrap.net>
> belched the alphabet and kept on going with:
> >I keep remembering the stories about how foreign rice and other foods should
> >be kept out of Japan because they have "high residues of pesticides". Then I
> >read a report in the Economist that noted that Japan uses among the highest
> >amounts of pesticides per m2 of farmland of any country in the world.
>
> Yeah, but Japanese farmers use real safe pesticides. I know this must
> be true because very often I see them out applying a fog of chemicals
> to their crops and almost never do I see any of them using any sort of
> safety equipment.
There was a newspaper story of about half a page during one paper's series on
food safety a few months back, explaining how many items got on the Japanese
approved list of food additives:
They were already being used in Japan, and were thus approved automatically.
On the other hand, newer or "foreign" additives need testing and approval.
I can't find that story, but I found two others:
"How safe is our food? Officials struggle to ensure import safety", Daily
Yomiuri, April 18, 2003, p.3. [second of two parts]
"Imported-food inspectors playing catchup: China spinach agrochemical fiasco,
supply glut lead to stricter checks", Japan Times, May 31, 2003, p. 3. [first in
a series]
They say basically the same thing, that the limited number of Japanese
inspectors are only able to inspect a very small amount of imported food (7.4%
of the total in 2001). Considering the majority of Japanese food is imported
(60% of caloric intake), the safety of imported food is understandably an
important issue.
However, "of the inspected produce, 729 tons, or 1.06 percent, did not meet
Japanese standards" according to the Yomiuri.
It is true that there was a serious pesticide scandal with Chinese frozen
spinach in March, when "frozen spinach already on the market turned up with as
much as 2.5 ppm of chloropyrifos, 250 times higher than the standard." This
scandal resulted in a revision of the Food Sanitation Law in September "so the
government could comprehensively ban imports of food items suspected of posing a
serious threat to human health."
There had been "a 7.1% irregularity rate" with Chinese frozen spinach as of
mid-February. What the news does not spend so much time on, and what people do
not care to know or remember, is after the ban was lifted, "ALL frozen spinach
imported after August was within the standard" and "NO violations have been
reported since February".
And again: Just 1.06% of imported food inspected did not meet Japanese
standards.
A far cry from the image the government and media are trying to create for
imported food, particularly from China, and the image many consumers have. I
wonder what the "irregularity rate" is for Japanese foods.
So, the government can "comprehensively ban IMPORTS of food items suspected of
posing a serious threat to human health."
While simply ignoring known Japanese food hazards such as dioxin, pesticides,
and heavy metals with NO "comprehensive ban" except perhaps at the individual
company or local level. Japanese will continue to serve items such as school
lunch curry containing splinters of broken glass (found by an elementary school
boy, in his mouth) without ever reporting it beforehand, though, as was reported
last week, and has happened before. Even a governor, Diet member or cabinet
minister will appear on location on nationwide TV to eat the contaminated or
suspect food and declare it delicious or safe, or claiming even whale meat known
to contain heavy metals will somehow be MADE safe before sale, without a
restriction or ban.
Rafael Caetano
> I keep remembering the stories about how foreign rice and
> other foods should be kept out of Japan because they have
> "high residues of pesticides". Then I read a report in the
> Economist that noted that Japan uses among the highest
> amounts of pesticides per m2 of farmland of any country in
> the world.
> Well, perhaps it is democracy in action. Foreigners don't vote.
But what about the Japanese voters and taxpayers, who end up paying
more for their rice?
The only ones who are better off are the rice producers.
Rafael Caetano
Reg Blank
>>What does Mino Monta have to say about all this? I base my dietary
>>practices solely on his pronouncements.
>>
>
>
> Ask Shintaro Ishihara. He probably says that a gaijin has spit into the fish
> bond.
Not just any gaijin, but "sankokujin" :)
Reg.
Ryan Ginstrom
"Rafael Caetano" <rcae...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> But what about the Japanese voters and taxpayers, who end up paying
> more for their rice?
>
> The only ones who are better off are the rice producers.
In the long run, not even they are better off. They aren't being forced to
improve their production methods and become more efficient, so in the long
run the govt. is just prolonging their death, rather than helping them
compete.
--
Regards,
Ryan Ginstrom
The 2-Belo
I'm just about to quit eating rice and going back to Hungry-Man microwave
breakfasts. Ever since I went to a local 防災訓練 2 months ago and witnessed
city firefighters testing fire extinguishers right next to rice fields (and
painting several hectares of rice Halon pink) on flaming trays of kerosene which
they disposed of in the irrigation ditch afterwards, I have been seriously
considering ingesting nothing but filtered rainwater and dry salt crackers.
--
The 2-Belo
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m. lamphier
I agree, but like I said, maybe this is democracy in action.
Apparently the Japanese voters themselves support restrictions on
foreign rice and other food imports, even if they have to pay higher
food prices.