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180 GB hard disk partitioning...

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SR

未読、
2003/10/28 21:55:412003/10/28
To:
I bought a 180 GB Hitachi/IBM hard drive, and now I am attempting the
partitioning process.
The HD is connected via an external USB2 case, and the OS is Windows XP.

The "Computer Management" reports the HD as 128 GB and

Partition Magic shows it as 131 GB.

185.2 GB is written on the hard disk...


Why do I get a wrong reading? What's the trick to solve this problem?

Sigi


PS:
7200 rmp, 8 MB cache, 16,000 Yen in Akihabara.
An additional 3.5 inch USB2/IDE external case was 4,000 Yen.
Entire combinations fro IO-Date, Buffalo offer 160 GB hard drives for 21,000
Yen.

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未読、
2003/10/28 23:52:432003/10/28
To:
"SR" <srin...@da2.so-net.ne.jp> wrote in message
news:3f9f2c2d$1...@cosmos.uncensored-news.com...

> I bought a 180 GB Hitachi/IBM hard drive, and now I am attempting the
> partitioning process.
> The HD is connected via an external USB2 case, and the OS is Windows XP.
>
> The "Computer Management" reports the HD as 128 GB and
>
> Partition Magic shows it as 131 GB.
>
> 185.2 GB is written on the hard disk...
>
>
> Why do I get a wrong reading? What's the trick to solve this problem?
>
> Sigi
>
>
> PS:
> 7200 rmp, 8 MB cache, 16,000 Yen in Akihabara.
> An additional 3.5 inch USB2/IDE external case was 4,000 Yen.
> Entire combinations fro IO-Date, Buffalo offer 160 GB hard drives for
21,000
> Yen.
>

Does PartitionMagic support disk sizes above 160gb? I seem to remember
version 8.0 stating "up to 160gb". I was about to rummage round the
Powerquest homepage for you (I've been using P/Magic since version 3.0 so
known a little about it)...but in the 15 diversion-filled minutes that it
took to get there the latest Enterprise episode at 450mb started and
finished downloading...WOW..that was fast.

Here it is...from the Powerquest homepage

"1. Will PartitionMagic work on any size hard drive?

PartitionMagic 8.0 has been officially tested on drives up to 160 GB. Users
have not reported any problems, however, when using PartitionMagic 8.0 on
drives larger than 160 GB." so I guess it should work.

What's the exact model number of your physical hard disk?


--
jonathan
--
"Never give a gun to ducks"


ilbey

未読、
2003/10/29 3:18:062003/10/29
To:
Best thing to do is to use the partition tool that came with your HD. i
tried with 120GB and did it on the fly.
But be aware of the OS that you have, and in which platform you use the
tool.
If you have different OS partitions on your fixed HD, you have the
posibility to not to use your external one with all of them.
In my case it was the bundled bootable floopy who made all the job.

"SR" <srin...@da2.so-net.ne.jp> wrote in message
news:3f9f2c2d$1...@cosmos.uncensored-news.com...
> I bought a 180 GB Hitachi/IBM hard drive, and now I am attempting the
> partitioning process.
> The HD is connected via an external USB2 case, and the OS is Windows XP.
>
> The "Computer Management" reports the HD as 128 GB and
>
> Partition Magic shows it as 131 GB.
>
> 185.2 GB is written on the hard disk...
>
>
> Why do I get a wrong reading? What's the trick to solve this problem?
>
> Sigi
>
>
> PS:
> 7200 rmp, 8 MB cache, 16,000 Yen in Akihabara.
> An additional 3.5 inch USB2/IDE external case was 4,000 Yen.
> Entire combinations fro IO-Date, Buffalo offer 160 GB hard drives for
21,000
> Yen.
>
>
>
>

____________________________________________________________________________

Nick

未読、
2003/10/29 4:01:402003/10/29
To:
I recently had exactly the same problem with a disk and over came the
problem by changing a simple (if there is such a thing) registry key.
Please see below for the instructions. Like all registry editing please be
careful.

A. Windows XP Service Pack 1 (SP1) and Windows 2000 SP3 add support
for 48-bit Logical Block Addressing (LBA), which lets you access hard disks
larger than 137GB. To enable 48-bit LBA, perform the following steps:

1. Start registry editor (e.g., regedit.exe).

2. Navigate to the
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\atapi\Parameters
registry subkey.

3. From the Edit menu, select New, DWORD Value.

4. Enter the name EnableBigLba, then press Enter.

5. Double-click the new value, set it to 1, then click OK.

6. Close the registry editor.

7. Restart the machine for the change to take effect.

Be aware that if you multiboot your system with OSs that don't support
48-bit LBA, editing this registry setting might cause data corruption. If
you still can't access hard disk space beyond the 137GB limit after you
restart your system, your system BIOS might not be 48-bit LBA compatible, in
which case you need to talk to your computer manufacturer.


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Nick

未読、
2003/10/29 4:10:152003/10/29
To:
http://www.winnetmag.com/windowsnt20002003faq/

This site may help with loads of stuff on it


"SR" <srin...@da2.so-net.ne.jp> wrote in message
news:3f9f2c2d$1...@cosmos.uncensored-news.com...

Jean-Marc Desperrier

未読、
2003/10/29 4:38:042003/10/29
To:
SR wrote:
> The "Computer Management" reports the HD as 128 GB and
> Partition Magic shows it as 131 GB.
> 185.2 GB is written on the hard disk...

So you go with your 180 Gb disk, but you've been hitting the LBA
adressing limits of 128 Gb.

Back in 94 when disks were beginning to hit the 512 Mo limit, LBA was
something revolutionnary designed to avoid this kind of problem, ever,
imagine this, it would go up to 128 Gb !

Haluk

未読、
2003/10/29 5:49:432003/10/29
To:
"Jean-Marc Desperrier" <jmd...@alussinan.org>, haber iletisinde sunlari
yazdi:bno0q3$4ld$1...@reader1.imaginet.fr...

Isn't it somewhat dumb to manufacture 180Gb HDs when there is 128Gb limit?
just thinking out loud


Fabian

未読、
2003/10/29 5:55:312003/10/29
To:
Haluk hu kiteb:

I imagine it was also somewhat dumb to build massive 1GB drives when
there was a 512MB limit.


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Haluk

未読、
2003/10/29 7:32:422003/10/29
To:
"Fabian" <laj...@hotmail.com>, haber iletisinde ?unlar?
yazd?:bno6ck$11c1m9$1...@ID-174912.news.uni-berlin.de...

I may be wrong here but I think they have increased the limit (to 2Gb per
partition for Fat32) than introduced 1GB harddrives. Not sure though, it's
been so long time. Ahh, floppy days, test drive, packman. Anyone remember
5.25" floppies?


Jean-Marc Desperrier

未読、
2003/10/29 7:51:142003/10/29
To:
Haluk wrote:
> I may be wrong here but I think they have increased the limit (to 2Gb per
> partition for Fat32) than introduced 1GB harddrives.

As has been said earlier in the thread, the limit *has* been increased
over 132 Gb. There's the new 48 bit LBA that can go further than that.

But you need the newest OS/newest motherboard to use it.

BTW back at the time, there was several limits, 512 Mo for the "int 13"
access that Windows 3.1 was restricted to, 2 Gb per partition for Fat16
that early Win 95 was restricted to, and also an 8 Gb limit for some BIOSes.

Scott Reynolds

未読、
2003/10/30 2:51:062003/10/30
To:

Hell, I remember 8" floppies.

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Darrien

未読、
2003/10/30 3:43:522003/10/30
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"Scott Reynolds" <s...@gol.com> wrote in message news:bnqfte$q68$4...@newsflood.tokyo.att.ne.jp...

> Hell, I remember 8" floppies.
>

I see you've decided to take my advice regarding Viagra.

Scott Reynolds

未読、
2003/10/30 3:52:112003/10/30
To:

Yup. Best decision I ever made, too.

Haluk

未読、
2003/10/30 4:11:322003/10/30
To:
"Scott Reynolds" <s...@gol.com>, haber iletisinde sunlari
yazdi:bnqfte$q68$4...@newsflood.tokyo.att.ne.jp...

I meant no offense sir... :)


SR

未読、
2003/10/30 6:43:222003/10/30
To:
> PartitionMagic 8.0 has been officially tested on drives up to 160 GB.
Users
> have not reported any problems, however, when using PartitionMagic 8.0 on
> drives larger than 160 GB." so I guess it should work.
>

Right now it's useless to check since other things are needed to show more
than 130 GB...
I'll get a new computer in a few days with a 3.2GB CPU. Maybe this
motherboard will swallow the 180GB monster.


> What's the exact model number of your physical hard disk?

Hitachi Deskstar
Model: IC35L180AVV207-1 (made in Thailand)


>
>
> --
> jonathan
> --
> "Never give a gun to ducks"
>
>

SR

未読、
2003/10/30 6:50:552003/10/30
To:

"ilbey" <sis...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:wHKnb.17$GB5...@news7.dion.ne.jp...
> Best thing to do is to use the partition tool that came with your HD. i
> tried with 120GB and did it on the fly.


If you buy an inexpensive hard disk in Akihabara, it's always "bulk ware".
This means that is no disk or anything else in the bag. Well there was: a
small bag od desiccant...:-)

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SR

未読、
2003/10/30 6:53:102003/10/30
To:

"Nick" <Ni...@rees101.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bnnvm7$ea7$1...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...

> I recently had exactly the same problem with a disk and over came the
> problem by changing a simple (if there is such a thing) registry key.
> Please see below for the instructions. Like all registry editing please
be
> careful.
>

Thanks for the hints. I'll save them for later... if I have problems with
the HD in a new top-of-the-line computer.

_______________________________________________________________________________

Bryan Parker

未読、
2003/10/30 9:29:222003/10/30
To:
"Haluk" <yokoo...@spam.net> said:

You don't know what I would have given for an 8"
floppy this afternoon!


--
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the severe subnormal foreigner
http://www.trainerbryan.com/old_fjlij.html

Dan Rempel

未読、
2003/10/30 11:45:052003/10/30
To:
Scott Reynolds wrote:

Jeez, I remember writing an 8080 driver for 8" floppies; if not for the
presence of Bryce this would probably be the most irrelevant thing ever
posted to this noisegroup.

Dan


Haluk

未読、
2003/10/30 15:41:172003/10/30
To:
"Bryan Parker" <puntspe...@yahoo.com>, haber iletisinde sunlari
yazdi:f082qv0f1i2f8uoa5...@4ax.com...

Well If I'm to make a choice here I'd prefer today's 3.5" ones. They are
compact and more resillient...


ilbey

未読、
2003/10/30 18:50:222003/10/30
To:
> If you buy an inexpensive hard disk in Akihabara, it's always "bulk ware".
> This means that is no disk or anything else in the bag. Well there was: a
> small bag od desiccant...:-)
>

Did you check the maker site? Generally they put this tools on the web.

Scott Reynolds

未読、
2003/10/31 2:01:242003/10/31
To:

None taken.

Scott Reynolds

未読、
2003/10/31 2:03:172003/10/31
To:

They may be smaller, but they're harder.

Bryan Parker

未読、
2003/10/31 2:20:592003/10/31
To:
Scott Reynolds <s...@gol.com> said:

Now, where have I heard that a thousand times
before?

Scott Reynolds

未読、
2003/10/31 2:23:582003/10/31
To:

And did I mention that they last longer?

Haluk

未読、
2003/10/31 2:58:002003/10/31
To:
"Scott Reynolds" <s...@gol.com>, haber iletisinde sunlari
yazdi:bnt2mk$i5i$2...@newsflood.tokyo.att.ne.jp...

We're talking about different things, you know. I'm talking about drives
you're talking about discs


Scott Reynolds

未読、
2003/10/31 3:03:342003/10/31
To:

Are you sure?

Bryan Parker

未読、
2003/10/31 3:22:042003/10/31
To:
Scott Reynolds <s...@gol.com> said:

Is this what "deja vous" feels like?

Michael Cash

未読、
2003/10/31 12:06:322003/10/31
To:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:03:34 +0900, Scott Reynolds <s...@gol.com>
belched the alphabet and kept on going with:

Without a drive, a disc is pretty useless anyway.


SR

未読、
2003/10/31 22:21:352003/10/31
To:
> > Well If I'm to make a choice here I'd prefer today's 3.5" ones. They are
> > compact and more resillient...
>
> They may be smaller, but they're harder.
>

Apart from the nonsense...
My new computer has a Mitsumi-Combo drive (3.5 inch floppy and several slots
for SmartMedia and other memory devices).
But... this "shuttle clone" is noisier than any computer I ever owned!
Haven't opened it up yet to have a look.


Sigi

Michael Cash

未読、
2003/11/01 7:09:562003/11/01
To:
On 1 Nov 2003 03:21:35 GMT, "SR" <srin...@da2.so-net.ne.jp> belched

the alphabet and kept on going with:

>> > Well If I'm to make a choice here I'd prefer today's 3.5" ones. They are


>> > compact and more resillient...
>>
>> They may be smaller, but they're harder.
>>
>
>Apart from the nonsense...
>My new computer has a Mitsumi-Combo drive (3.5 inch floppy and several slots
>for SmartMedia and other memory devices).
>But... this "shuttle clone" is noisier than any computer I ever owned!
>Haven't opened it up yet to have a look.

It's probably noise from the cooling fans. You might be able to
replace the offending fan with a quieter one for very little expense.
Or you may add a fan speed controller to slow it down and reduce the
noise, also an inexpensive solution. Just be careful to monitor the
CPU temperature so you don't inadvertently let it run too hot.


SR

未読、
2003/11/01 17:55:282003/11/01
To:
> It's probably noise from the cooling fans. You might be able to
> replace the offending fan with a quieter one for very little expense.
> Or you may add a fan speed controller to slow it down and reduce the
> noise, also an inexpensive solution. Just be careful to monitor the
> CPU temperature so you don't inadvertently let it run too hot.
>
>

Yes, I fully believe you... but when you read the manufacturer's web page
(http://www.biostar.com.tw/products/barebone/minipc.php3), you can also spot
this sentence:

********************************************************
a.. Supreme cooling effect and noise reduction
Place iDEQ on your desk; listen how silently it runs by your side. Featuring
the cutting-edge chassis design and mechanism like the heat-conducting
concaves on the bottom of the case, shark-gill blowholes and side-blown
cooler fan, iDEQ creates the coolest interior. Together with the function of
smart fan, it also controls the noise-level to the most efficient condition.

********************************************************

This model is a "Shuttle clone", and the Shuttle is really quiet according
to 3 people in Tokyo who purchased it.
Anyway, I will first approach the Taiwanese manufacturer for help since I
don't want to write a wrong review for my computer user group's newsletter
about this product...:-)
They won't ignore me (from previous experience)! After all, I bought my
model after reading their webpage...:-)

Scott Reynolds

未読、
2003/11/02 7:34:002003/11/02
To:

Well put.

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