James English School?
Ronnie Corporon
School? if so, any negatives or positive feedback would be appreciated as my
husband and i are looking into working for them
Julie
Bryce
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Dave Fossett
Where is the school? Do they recruit outside Japan? How much do they pay?
:-)
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Dave Fossett
Saitama, Japan
Dave Fossett
> It must be so challenging!
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet?
Bryce
there.
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mr.sumo snr.
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Ah - sounds like you're hunting out some employment other than NOVA.
If it's a private English language school then they are more or less all the
same. Do you know how many staff are employed there, location, working
hours, salary, benefits (such as health insurance organized for you),
transport provided, accommodation organized and at what cost?
Where did you find out about James (I want to say 'Johnny') English School?
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jonathan
--
"Never give a gun to ducks"
Ronnie Corporon
School?"
I just did a search on the net, its not that hard to find a bunch of
different schools if you do a search
Julie
mr.sumo snr.
Yeah - like - we know that! Within the newsgroup there are at least 4 or 5
owners of English language schools that I know of - plus, I expect, several
senior managers. Not to mention the countless 'lurkers' who are probably a
wee bit shy to admit they teach 'ingurishu".
I personally was interested in whether you found the gaijinpot and
ohayosensei pages useful?
The 'James' homepage is pretty comprehensive - http://www.jesjapan.com I'm
assuming that you didn't find it since you failed to post the url in your
message.
The salaries and benefits are on a par with other schools - you're up north
so if you're a warm-weather lover then you're going to suffer during the
winters - or even during Autumn and Spring. Health insurance and
accommodation is sorted out for you - hey that's way better than most
places. I'm a bit concerned about the 'professional wardrobe' thing - where
does one study to acquire a qualification in 'professional wardrobe'? Suits
during the middle of summer?
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jonathan
Dave Fossett
> I'm a bit concerned about the 'professional wardrobe' thing - where
> does one study to acquire a qualification in 'professional wardrobe'?
Suits
> during the middle of summer?
Wow... "Men: Business suits (at least 2) these can be two-piece but NOT
pants and sports jacket, conservative (white or pin-striped) shirts and
ties."
Sounds a bit over the top. Does even Nova have such strict dress
regulations?
mr.sumo snr.
The owner is clearly 'old school' - probably has a "Boys be ambitious" sign
in his office. Still, sounds like he makes a tidy bit of money, and has
clearly built himself a nice little 'empire' up in the northern colonies.
Personally, I think the place would be a pretty could place to work for
'fresh-off-the-boaters'. If his teachers really do stay for on average 3
years then that's probably the best indication as to the quality of the
working environment. I wonder how many married locals?
The largest 'private' school in my city can't keep their teachers for even
12 months - nice school, nice boss, nice salary....but mad boss' wife!
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jonathan
--
"Never give a 'professional wardrobe' to ducks"
mr.sumo snr.
.
> Personally, I think the place would be a pretty good place to work for
> 'fresh-off-the-boaters'.
--
jonathan
--
"Never give a lexicon to ducks"
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"Ronnie Corporon" <corpor...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> just wondering if anyone who has been to Japan has worked for James
I don't know them personally, from their website, they offer standard
conditions.
The "problem" is the location. Do you know the Tohoku ? I wouldn't advise
anybody to sign for that area without traveling there before.
That can be great for certain persons.
If you are not a countryside lover, you may not bear the lifestyle. If you
are not already fluent in Japanese, you'll be twice as much dependent of
your employer as in the Kansai/Kanto areas. In big cities, you can easily
change for another school without having to move kms away, and you can do
all sorts of things in English and talk about your problems to someone else
than your coworkers or students.
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Michael Cash
<fuk...@takethisout.hotmail.com> belched the alphabet and kept on
going with:
>Yes almighty *english teacher*.
Boy, he really burned your ass, Dave. Don't puss out on us. Snappy
comeback time.
Eric Takabayashi
> "Ronnie Corporon" <corpor...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>
> > just wondering if anyone who has been to Japan has worked for James
> English
> > School? if so, any negatives or positive feedback would be appreciated as
> my
> > husband and i are looking into working for them
>
> I don't know them personally, from their website, they offer standard
> conditions.
>
> The "problem" is the location. Do you know the Tohoku ? I wouldn't advise
> anybody to sign for that area without traveling there before.
Just what is wrong with the Tohoku area? And what is wrong with Niigata in
particular? Relatively large population (and high population density) aside,
their listings dominate one of the rural real estate websites I frequent.
People want to dump their Niigata houses for as low as 480,000 (no misprint)
yen. Finding some house fee simple, with land in Niigata under one million yen
is not a problem. If not for the 40 km to the highway onramp or 25 minutes by
car to the station in some cases, in heavy snow, I would go for it just
because it was cheap.
Since other home buyers in this group are willing to throw around 40 million
yen at a time, or take on 35 year loans, you should see beauties like this:
Dave Fossett
Actually I wasn't offended by being called an English teacher. Some of my
best friends are English teachers.
Ryan Ginstrom
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> http://www.myplanst.co.jp/
>
> People want to dump their Niigata houses for as low as 480,000 (no
misprint)
> yen.
And the question you need to ask yourself is, why are they willing to sell
their houses so cheaply? Because nobody wants to live there.
During my sentence in Ohio (did you know -- every year spent in Ohio knocks
of two years from purgatory), I saw nice-looking homes with land being
offered for US$60K or so. The problem was the same -- you would have to live
in Ohio!
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Dick Muhfukkin Bagswing
>
> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
> A: Top-posting.
> Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet?
>
> --
> Dave Fossett
Here's what I do. If a cocksucker top-posts I ignore his silly little ass
and pop another goddamn beer.
Nutsack-swinging-off-of fuck.
Brian
Dick Muhfukkin Bagswing
> During my sentence in Ohio (did you know -- every year spent in Ohio
knocks
> of two years from purgatory), I saw nice-looking homes with land being
> offered for US$60K or so. The problem was the same -- you would have to
live
> in Ohio!
>
love my homestate even more than a good plate of biscuits and gravy which I
sure ain't getting here.
It's cheap to live there,easy to make fun of but goddamn it's easy to miss
if you stay away long enough.
Brian
Eric Takabayashi
> "Eric Takabayashi" <eta...@yahoo.co.jp> wrote in message
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> > http://www.myplanst.co.jp/
> >
> > People want to dump their Niigata houses for as low as 480,000 (no
> misprint)
> > yen.
>
> And the question you need to ask yourself is, why are they willing to sell
> their houses so cheaply? Because nobody wants to live there.
Hey, houses in Fukuyama go as low as 4 million yen in the city, too (3.3
million in an adjoining city to be merged), and I don't see what's wrong. I
would live here the rest of my life if I could.
> During my sentence in Ohio (did you know -- every year spent in Ohio knocks
> of two years from purgatory), I saw nice-looking homes with land being
> offered for US$60K or so. The problem was the same -- you would have to live
> in Ohio!
And what's wrong with living there?
Jon up in Tohoku
I lived in the Nagoya for six years and moved to Fukushima three and a half
years ago. If you like cold, long winters, shitty summers, and love to ski
this is the place for you. I think If you could move to Sendai It would be
better. Sendai is a great and beautiful city.
Having said that, I live in small town. There is a James in my town. It is
not the place to be. Starting in a big city is safe, because if your job
sucks, you can find another. In the country side it is a different story,
unless you need to diet then the lack of income for a long stretch between
jobs will certainly trim you up.
The James in my town has a shite reputation, the receptionist is far from
friendly. They rarely keep teachers for more than a year. Mainly because
they pay people late, and/or incorrectly.
Their teachers always just seem to be saving their yens to escape.
But then again this is a small town, and it may be better in one of the city
locations.
My advice, go city, then move country, if you like anyway. But you may want
to avoid James.
Eric Takabayashi
And just what is wrong with Indiana?
Other than the high cost of living, comparable to Southern California, but
without the jobs and salaries to afford it, I have nothing to say to
discourage people from going to Hawaii. If I could afford the statewide
average $300,000 single family home ($400,000 for a good new house), or earned
the approximately $69,000 per year required to "get by" in my rural island
home town while working one job or 40 hours a week, I'd never have left.
Ryan Ginstrom
> And just what is wrong with Indiana?
>
> Other than the high cost of living, comparable to Southern California, but
> without the jobs and salaries to afford it, I have nothing to say to
> discourage people from going to Hawaii.
There you have it. Nobody would discourage you from living in Hawaii if you
could afford it, or in San Francisco for that matter. Those are nice places
to live. But these poor slobs unlucky enough to be from god-forsaken
shitholes should just count themselves lucky that they escaped.
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Regards,
Ryan Ginstrom
Eric Takabayashi
So what's wrong with Niigata, the Tohoku region, Harrisburg, PA; Ohio, or
Indiana, that people might consider them god forsaken?
Michael Cash
<eta...@yahoo.co.jp> belched the alphabet and kept on going with:
>
>Since other home buyers in this group are willing to throw around 40 million
>yen at a time, or take on 35 year loans, you should see beauties like this:
>
>http://tinyurl.com/q5hd
Now why does that remind me of a Jim Walter home?
Michael Cash
<eta...@yahoo.co.jp> belched the alphabet and kept on going with:
>Ryan Ginstrom wrote:
Sometimes while driving, I look ahead and see trucks start to change
lanes all at roughly the same place. I just take it on faith that they
can see something I can't see and change lanes with them. I've never
regretted it.
If so many folks want out of a place that it depresses real estate
values, I'll take that as sufficient indication that *something* must
suck about it and not bother inquiring as to specifics.
Dick Muhfukkin Bagswing
>
> And just what is wrong with Indiana?
>
there but if you aren't from there then you might despise it.Think it's all
boring and backwards and stuff.
I love the fucking place.
Brian
Michael Cash
<la...@my.nuts.wouldja?> belched the alphabet and kept on going with:
Strangely, staying away is the *only* way you can miss it.
Dick Muhfukkin Bagswing
>
> Strangely, staying away is the *only* way you can miss it.
A-fuckin-men! When I am living in Indy I am ambivalent about the place at
best. If I am away from there for more than a year I tend to idealise it and
get all homesick. I go back every year though so I can get my biscuits and
gravy fix. Actually,I am a goddamned good cook and can make that slop myself
but I like it better when served by a waitress with a bad case of BO and an
even worse case of wretched waitstaff manners..
Brian
Eric Takabayashi
> If so many folks want out of a place that it depresses real estate
> values,
In Japan, it could just be deflation or price corrections. I have monitored real
estate prices in Fukuyama since I moved here. I have seen the price of new single
family houses go from 38 million yen to 23 million yen, and inconveniently located
apartments a bus and or train ride from downtown which cost over 20 million yen,
be replaced by a multitude of new apartments springing up around the station and
castle in the most convenient, desireable, and probably expensive locations, list
for less than 16 million yen. And quality or convenience seems to be going up.
> I'll take that as sufficient indication that *something* must
> suck about it and not bother inquiring as to specifics.
My apartment building has a high turnover rate, and is one quarter to one half
empty at any one time, probably the only reason I as a foreigner I was permitted
to live here, but it does not suck. Locals look down on my neighborhood and
badmouth local schools including private ones, but they do not suck.
Eric Takabayashi
> > Strangely, staying away is the *only* way you can miss it.
>
> A-fuckin-men! When I am living in Indy I am ambivalent about the place at
> best.
When I go back to Hawaii to be with family, it's like I never left, except I
didn't used to have to spend 2,000 dollars to stay alive for three weeks even
while staying at my mother's house, NOT including impulse shopping, rental car
or airfare, like I did during my last visit. And if you do include those
things, then three weeks in Hawaii cost about 7,000 dollars despite living at
home.
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"Eric Takabayashi" <eta...@yahoo.co.jp> wrote in message
> Just what is wrong with the Tohoku area?
Nothing wrong. You gave the explanation yourself.
In addition, I was talking to a person that didn't say she already knew
Japan and the language, so she may feel "isolated" there. Not everybody
likes that. You know there are gaigins that suffer from the lack of choice
in pizzas, English books, people to talk to, etc, in Osaka !
> Finding some house fee simple, with land in Niigata under one million yen
> is not a problem. If not for the 40 km to the highway onramp or 25 minutes
by
> car to the station in some cases, in heavy snow,
Then you fly to your workplace ? Or your job follows you anywhere you move ?
I remind you that you often told us your wife had problems finding a job in
not so rural where you live, so she'd do what over there ? I hope she likes
gardening, knitting, driving 2 hours to go to the supermarket, talking to 90
yr old neighbours.
> Since other home buyers in this group are willing to throw around 40
million
> yen at a time, or take on 35 year loans, you should see beauties like
this:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/q5hd
30-40 km from Himeji ?
I could commute easily, 1 or 2 hours in car or helicopter, 1 hour of
Shinkansen, then the subway. Or 15 minutes of car, 1 hour of train, then the
Shinkansen.
No thanks ! Life is too short.
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Eric Takabayashi
> "Eric Takabayashi" <eta...@yahoo.co.jp> wrote in message
>
> > Just what is wrong with the Tohoku area?
>
> Nothing wrong. You gave the explanation yourself.
> In addition, I was talking to a person that didn't say she already knew
> Japan and the language, so she may feel "isolated" there. Not everybody
> likes that. You know there are gaigins that suffer from the lack of choice
> in pizzas, English books, people to talk to, etc, in Osaka !
>
> > Finding some house fee simple, with land in Niigata under one million yen
> > is not a problem. If not for the 40 km to the highway onramp or 25 minutes
> by
> > car to the station in some cases, in heavy snow,
>
> Then you fly to your workplace ?
I would do what white collar Japanese do.
> Or your job follows you anywhere you move ?
That is also a possibility.
> I remind you that you often told us your wife had problems finding a job in
> not so rural where you live,
Still does. Now she plans to work out of home.
> so she'd do what over there ?
There are part time jobs like she currently does, anywhere.
> I hope she likes
> gardening, knitting, driving 2 hours to go to the supermarket, talking to 90
> yr old neighbours.
Funny, that's what the island two hours out of Hiroshima where we met sounds
like, where she needed bus, ferry and train to go to school every day, then
back in time to her part time job at the supermarket, where I was the only
Western foreigner I ever knew in the entire town.
> > Since other home buyers in this group are willing to throw around 40
> million
> > yen at a time, or take on 35 year loans, you should see beauties like
> this:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/q5hd
>
> 30-40 km from Himeji ?
I am already considerably farther than that from Japan's better known cities.
So are most Japanese.
> I could commute easily, 1 or 2 hours in car or helicopter, 1 hour of
> Shinkansen, then the subway. Or 15 minutes of car, 1 hour of train, then the
> Shinkansen.
People who work or go to school in Tokyo do it twice a day. I knew a high
school girl who commuted four hours each way to Fukuyama, while also unable to
sleep or study the entire time on the bus or train.
I also know a woman who goes to university in Kobe.
From Fukuyama.
> No thanks ! Life is too short.
Strange the people enamored of Tokyo and Tokyo only, do not think so while they
waste their lives standing on trains or waiting in traffic. And they probably
do not live on three acres of grass suitable for keeping horses, in a truly
Western looking house with detached, enclosed garage. You would have more
trouble finding one of those in Hawaii at that price.
Bryce
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Bryce
It's like "as only seen on TV". It's only seen on TV for a reason.
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shouldn't be living there. They are obviously misplaced.
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"Bryce" <fuk...@takethisout.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> If they suffer from lack of choice of pizzas, English books, etc.... they
> shouldn't be living there. They are obviously misplaced.
Obviously. But, where can they go to have larger choice than here ?
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"Eric Takabayashi" <eta...@yahoo.co.jp> wrote in message
> > > Finding some house fee simple, with land in Niigata under one million
yen
...
> > Then you fly to your workplace ?
>
> I would do what white collar Japanese do.
I don't understand. I have never heard of white collar Japanese buying a
house in the woods in Niigata while they have no job or relatives there.
> > Or your job follows you anywhere you move ?
>
> That is also a possibility.
Good for you, because for 98% of the people that's not the case. So you can
live where you want.
> > so she'd do what over there ?
>
> There are part time jobs like she currently does, anywhere.
Job on internet or things like that ?
> Funny, that's what the island two hours out of Hiroshima where we met
sounds
> like, where she needed bus, ferry and train to go to school every day,
then
> back in time to her part time job at the supermarket, where I was the only
> Western foreigner I ever knew in the entire town.
Not at all. Your dirt cheap houses, that'd be the same island without the
bus and the ferry, and once you've swum to the station, 2 hours of bus from
Aomori.
Maybe there would be a ferry service once a day, 2 months a year, during the
touristic season and the winter festival. A friend traveled in rural Tohoku
for photos last year, that was like that in many places, no real public
transportations.
.
> I am already considerably farther than that from Japan's better known
cities.
> So are most Japanese.
So are your jobs.
> > I could commute easily, 1 or 2 hours in car or helicopter, 1 hour of
> > Shinkansen, then the subway. Or 15 minutes of car, 1 hour of train, then
the
> > Shinkansen.
>
> People who work or go to school in Tokyo do it twice a day. I knew a high
> school girl who commuted four hours each way to Fukuyama, while also
unable to
> sleep or study the entire time on the bus or train.
If they can afford. The normal train to Kobe, that's 18 000 yen a month, the
shinkansen for Himeji is certainly more than the double + the train+ the
car. At least 100 000 yen/month. Not even sure I can do it as I finish late
at night. That would definitely be too expensive for me.
> > No thanks ! Life is too short.
>
> Strange the people enamored of Tokyo and Tokyo only, do not think so while
they
> waste their lives standing on trains or waiting in traffic.
So why do they jump under the train so easily ? I have no idea what they
think.
My commuting time in Osaka is maxi 40 minutes, often less than 20 minutes,
door to door, I'm at the shopping center in 5 minutes.
When I lived in the French Tohoku, that was 3 hours/ 40 minutes/40 to 90
minutes. And I was not in the cheap house area.
> And they probably
> do not live on three acres of grass suitable for keeping horses, in a
truly
> Western looking house with detached, enclosed garage. You would have more
> trouble finding one of those in Hawaii at that price.
You would have trouble selling one that price in France (I wonder if they'll
sell it that much even in Japan, that was maybe the price they paid for it
during the Bubble and now they hope to find a buyer !). I sometimes rented a
chalet that looked like that (+ a second floor). About 5000 yen a week-end,
but you could stay the rest of the week for free. A great bargain for
students, we'd stay there at 10 to 15, there were enough beds. That farmer
owns the 10 chalets near the little lake, so I doubt they are worth even 2
million yen each with all the equipment. The land costs what it takes to
register it.
If you want to make a good bargain, it's easy to just point an empty place
on the map, order a DIY chalet, carry it there and built it with your
brother during your holidays. Then the next holiday, you start digging to
make a pond.
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Gifu was cool. If only traffic were not backed up most
of the way from Seki to Gifu City, and the regular road
were not so narrow. I did not see or hear anything that
suggested that living there would be bad. I was shocked
that I could find free parking in a proper parking lot,
right outside Seki Station, so I could stay the weekend
for the Outdoor and Cutlery Festival. And if I'd had
more time or visited during the summer, I would have
tried the many outdoor activities available such as
rock climbing or white water rafting.
Eric Takabayashi
> "Eric Takabayashi" <eta...@yahoo.co.jp> wrote in message
>
> > > > Finding some house fee simple, with land in Niigata under one million
> yen
> ...
> > > Then you fly to your workplace ?
> >
> > I would do what white collar Japanese do.
>
> I don't understand.
I would go to work like white collar Japanese who don't live in urban areas or
downtown Tokyo, but commute each way.
Perhaps you have heard of such Japanese. There are only a few million of them.
> I have never heard of white collar Japanese buying a
> house in the woods in Niigata while they have no job or relatives there.
Considering Niigata has like six million people and is about number seven on
the list of Japan's most populated prefectures, and the fact that most Japanese
do not live in Tokyo or Osaka, despite working in such urban areas, perhaps you
should check into it.
> > > Or your job follows you anywhere you move ?
> >
> > That is also a possibility.
>
> Good for you, because for 98% of the people that's not the case.
98% of Japanese live in urban areas near work, or a short, convenient commute
from such an area?
No, they don't.
> So you can live where you want.
I'm willing to travel about one hour each way to work, but not two hours each
way, like Tokyo office workers who commute from Shizuoka or Chiba.
> > > so she'd do what over there ?
> >
> > There are part time jobs like she currently does, anywhere.
>
> Job on internet or things like that ?
Jobs starting at about 700 or 800 yen per hour. You can find that practically
anywhere, even on an island or in the mountains. My wife wants a salaried
office job like the one she had before she was forced to quit by her sexist
company when she considered marriage at the age of 25. Otherwise she is not too
picky about work. She's worked in a convenience store. She's worked in a
supermarket. She's been a security guard. She's worked in a restaurant. She's
worked for a sanitation company. She's done temporary jobs in stints as short
as two days. My wife is not one of these millions of Japanese who bitch about
not finding work, refusing to do work they don't like, or consider dirty or
difficult. She doesn't bitch about not liking her boss, company or job, either,
nor does she bitch about her low salary. She didn't even bitch about working
for minimum wage at the post office, doing the same work as salaried civil
servants being paid about three times as much. And she didn't change jobs
because she was flighty or a freeter, nor was she fired for any faults. She
only gave up jobs because the term of the job was up, or because she graduated
or moved.
> > Funny, that's what the island two hours out of Hiroshima where we met
> sounds
> > like, where she needed bus, ferry and train to go to school every day,
> then
> > back in time to her part time job at the supermarket, where I was the only
> > Western foreigner I ever knew in the entire town.
>
> Not at all. Your dirt cheap houses, that'd be the same island without the
> bus and the ferry,
I would ONLY buy a house near a bus line or within a few kilometers (say, five)
of a station. That's why I do NOT buy houses like I see, over 20 kilometers
from the station, in a region of heavy snowfall. If not in a region of heavy
snowfall or frequent rain, I would have no problem going to the station by
scooter, motorcycle or bicycle, if there is no convenient bus service.
> and once you've swum to the station, 2 hours of bus from
> Aomori.
> Maybe there would be a ferry service once a day, 2 months a year, during the
> touristic season and the winter festival. A friend traveled in rural Tohoku
> for photos last year, that was like that in many places, no real public
> transportations.
IF there was work I liked (I am a little more picky than my wife), I would love
to live in a small town or on a small island. In this region, there is an
island of 200 people with no supermarkets or video rental shops, maybe one
small bookstore; where the ferry stops running at 5 p.m., though there is a
private water taxi. If only there was somewhere to work on the island, and
there was a junior high school and high school for my children, I could go for
something like that. It would be cool. People like Elizabeth Kiritani, Susan
Anton Hill and Amy Chavez, among others, have made their living writing about
their daily life in such places. If I were not concerned about the effects of a
possible eruption of Mt. Fuji, I could go to the rural Shizuoka which Susan
Anton Hill wrote about for some years.
> > I am already considerably farther than that from Japan's better known
> cities.
> > So are most Japanese.
>
> So are your jobs.
No, I work a mile from here. And if I felt like it, I could work out of home.
> > > I could commute easily, 1 or 2 hours in car or helicopter, 1 hour of
> > > Shinkansen, then the subway. Or 15 minutes of car, 1 hour of train, then
> the
> > > Shinkansen.
> >
> > People who work or go to school in Tokyo do it twice a day. I knew a high
> > school girl who commuted four hours each way to Fukuyama, while also
> unable to
> > sleep or study the entire time on the bus or train.
>
> If they can afford. The normal train to Kobe, that's 18 000 yen a month, the
> shinkansen for Himeji is certainly more than the double + the train+ the
> car.
If the increase in salary for the city job is more than the increase in fare
(not to mention if it is subsidized or completely covered by the employer), and
it is worth my time, about one hour each way, I would do it, just like Japanese
do it.
> At least 100 000 yen/month. Not even sure I can do it as I finish late
> at night. That would definitely be too expensive for me.
>
> > > No thanks ! Life is too short.
> >
> > Strange the people enamored of Tokyo and Tokyo only, do not think so while
> they
> > waste their lives standing on trains or waiting in traffic.
>
> So why do they jump under the train so easily ?
Because they are so enamored of Tokyo, or Tokyo jobs or schools, for some
reason. I am not prejudiced against rural or hometown schools or jobs, or rural
people, the way tens of millions of Japanese are. I don't call small towns "god
forsaken shitholes" which people should escape from.
> I have no idea what they think.
Read about it, or ask them yourself. It can be very amusing. I've met people
from Tokyo or Yokohama, who are so disappointed by living in Fukuyama; or young
people who are so eager to move to Osaka, Tokyo, or completely out of the
country, for good. They are really sad.
> My commuting time in Osaka is maxi 40 minutes, often less than 20 minutes,
> door to door, I'm at the shopping center in 5 minutes.
> When I lived in the French Tohoku, that was 3 hours/ 40 minutes/40 to 90
> minutes. And I was not in the cheap house area.
Yes, if I lived in a rural area, it better be worth it, like with a low cost of
living. This is why I am not in my own hometown.
> > And they probably
> > do not live on three acres of grass suitable for keeping horses, in a
> truly
> > Western looking house with detached, enclosed garage. You would have more
> > trouble finding one of those in Hawaii at that price.
>
> You would have trouble selling one that price in France (I wonder if they'll
> sell it that much even in Japan, that was maybe the price they paid for it
> during the Bubble and now they hope to find a buyer !).
No, I mean I consider that CHEAP. Try finding a place like that for 40 million
in Osaka or Tokyo, or 400,000 USD in Hawaii. My mother doesn't have that much
land.
> I sometimes rented a
> chalet that looked like that (+ a second floor). About 5000 yen a week-end,
> but you could stay the rest of the week for free. A great bargain for
> students, we'd stay there at 10 to 15, there were enough beds. That farmer
> owns the 10 chalets near the little lake, so I doubt they are worth even 2
> million yen each with all the equipment. The land costs what it takes to
> register it.
> If you want to make a good bargain, it's easy to just point an empty place
> on the map, order a DIY chalet, carry it there and built it with your
> brother during your holidays. Then the next holiday, you start digging to
> make a pond.
I used to think about building my own house. This is particularly promoted
among the fans of log homes and dome houses. It could save perhaps 15 or 20
million yen off the cost of a new home.
I prefer having free time to use as I like, don't like to perspire, and would
simply live with a smaller or cheaper professionally built house.
Eric Takabayashi
> cc wrote:
> > > Strange the people enamored of Tokyo and Tokyo only, do not think so while
> > they
> > > waste their lives standing on trains or waiting in traffic.
> >
> > So why do they jump under the train so easily ?
Oh, I misread this as "get on the train".
Japanese have strange ideas about suicide and such people are irresponsible in
their eagerness to die. I used to consider suicide when I was a student or
unemployed, with low self esteem. I can't imagine it now.
> > I have no idea what they think.
It is reported that the largest proportion of suicides these days are for economic
reasons. If my family were homeless, I would not kill myself. I would consider it
an interesting challenge. The homeless I saw living on the banks of the river in
Osaka, who had constructed their own wooden homes, with standard doors and glass
windows, and farmed the vacant land, were totally cool. They were a big change
from the Fukuyama homeless I see who live in the smell of their own filth because
they don't take their trash or bodily functions out of the public space.
Some people who commit suicide according to suicide notes or people who knew them,
couldn't take their jobs, yet would not simply quit, but killed themselves despite
having a family to support, to make some sort of point. Totally irresponsible.
I'm afraid I don't know significant numbers of Tokyoites who kill themselves
because they don't like city life. I do know there are probably millions each day,
who willingly go into Tokyo for school or work, as well as millions who dream of
doing so.
Bryce
Larger choice than greater metro Osaka???? If they can't find anything in
that large an area... well there are some other issues at play then.
Michael Cash
<the2...@msd.biPOKPOKglobe.ne.jp> belched the alphabet and kept on
going with:
>Eric Takabayashi and fj.life.in-japan is a baaaaaaaaaaad combination:
>
>>Ryan Ginstrom wrote:
>>
>>> "Eric Takabayashi" <eta...@yahoo.co.jp> wrote in message
>>> news:3F840CD1...@yahoo.co.jp...
>>> > And just what is wrong with Indiana?
>>> >
>>> > Other than the high cost of living, comparable to Southern California, but
>>> > without the jobs and salaries to afford it, I have nothing to say to
>>> > discourage people from going to Hawaii.
>>>
>>> There you have it. Nobody would discourage you from living in Hawaii if you
>>> could afford it, or in San Francisco for that matter. Those are nice places
>>> to live. But these poor slobs unlucky enough to be from god-forsaken
>>> shitholes should just count themselves lucky that they escaped.
>>
>>So what's wrong with Niigata, the Tohoku region, Harrisburg, PA; Ohio, or
>>Indiana, that people might consider them god forsaken?
>
>Or Frederick, MD, or Gifu, as well?
There's a Frederick, Gifu? Kewl!
What's wrong with Frederick, MD? Only one truck stop; a ratty-assed
TA.
The 2-Belo
There is now.
>What's wrong with Frederick, MD? Only one truck stop; a ratty-assed
>TA.
Well, see, that's where you're WRONG! When I went last year, it was GONE, RAZED
TO THE GROUND, and replaced with some sort of vast sprawling do-it-yourself
outlet megastore. Needless to say it Changed the Entire Face of the City.*
*Read: "town." Frederick is not a city.
The 2-Belo
>The 2-Belo wrote:
>
>> Part 1 Type: Plain Text (text/plain)
>> Encoding: 7bit
Ooops. Not *that* again. I wonder why it keeps doing that for certain
newsreaders.
>Gifu was cool. If only traffic were not backed up most
>of the way from Seki to Gifu City, and the regular road
>were not so narrow.
Now, keeping that in mind, consider that the prefectural gov't has for the past
six or seven years been lustily advertising that they should spread their legs
for the New Capital. I have of course been campaigning against such a silly
idea, and this is one of the reasons why.
>I did not see or hear anything that suggested that living there would be bad.
11 years of living here, and I haven't seen anything either.
>I was shocked
>that I could find free parking in a proper parking lot,
>right outside Seki Station, so I could stay the weekend
>for the Outdoor and Cutlery Festival. And if I'd had
>more time or visited during the summer, I would have
>tried the many outdoor activities available such as
>rock climbing or white water rafting.
You oughta do the 日本ライン下り, while it still exists. There were attempts
this year to phase it out due to dropping interest by wandering gaigins.
marc
things it assumes that the original order is supposed to make sense. Plus,
bottom-posting is boring.
"Dave Fossett" <re...@via.newsgroup> wrote in message
news:AMHgb.589$Lz5...@news1.dion.ne.jp...
> "Bryce" <fuk...@takethisout.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > It must be so challenging!
>
> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
> A: Top-posting.
> Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet?
>
> --
> Dave Fossett
> Saitama, Japan
marc
"Dick Muhfukkin Bagswing" <la...@my.nuts.wouldja?> wrote in message
>
> > During my sentence in Ohio (did you know -- every year spent in Ohio
> knocks
> > of two years from purgatory), I saw nice-looking homes with land being
> > offered for US$60K or so. The problem was the same -- you would have to
> live
> > in Ohio!
> >
> Good thing you said Ohio and not Indiana. The same thing goes there but I
> love my homestate even more than a good plate of biscuits and gravy which
I
> sure ain't getting here.
> It's cheap to live there,easy to make fun of but goddamn it's easy to miss
> if you stay away long enough.
Where in Indiana are you from? I lived in Richmond for a few years. Great
place, but can't say I miss any of the food.
marc
> Ryan Ginstrom wrote:
>
> > "Eric Takabayashi" <eta...@yahoo.co.jp> wrote in message
> > news:3F840CD1...@yahoo.co.jp...
> > > And just what is wrong with Indiana?
> > >
> > > Other than the high cost of living, comparable to Southern California,
but
> > > without the jobs and salaries to afford it, I have nothing to say to
> > > discourage people from going to Hawaii.
> >
> > There you have it. Nobody would discourage you from living in Hawaii if
you
> > could afford it, or in San Francisco for that matter. Those are nice
places
> > to live. But these poor slobs unlucky enough to be from god-forsaken
> > shitholes should just count themselves lucky that they escaped.
>
> So what's wrong with Niigata, the Tohoku region, Harrisburg, PA; Ohio, or
> Indiana, that people might consider them god forsaken?
They have too few 7-Elevens.I thought we had this conversation already.
marc
"Michael Cash" <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> wrote in message
news:842bovcsq74klst4a...@4ax.com...
yeah, but it has a really cool biological weapons lab in Fort Detrick.
Better coffee than the TA too.
The 2-Belo
Maryland: We Got the Anthrax.
Michael Cash
>Michael Cash and fj.life.in-japan is a baaaaaaaaaaad combination:
>>What's wrong with Frederick, MD? Only one truck stop; a ratty-assed
>>TA.
>
>Well, see, that's where you're WRONG! When I went last year, it was GONE, RAZED
>TO THE GROUND, and replaced with some sort of vast sprawling do-it-yourself
>outlet megastore. Needless to say it Changed the Entire Face of the City.*
Thank Dog!
For being a part of one of the better truck stop chains, it was one
hell of a shithole.
Dick Muhfukkin Bagswing
> They have too few 7-Elevens.I thought we had this conversation already.
>
>
>
In Indiana no fucking 711s but a shitload of Village Pantry's. I always make
it my first stop after getting off the plane because I can see every fucking
horrid bit of inbred hillbilly bullshit that I'd ever want to see in about
5 minutes at one of those joints. The last time was especially amazing.
Brian
Dick Muhfukkin Bagswing
> Where in Indiana are you from? I lived in Richmond for a few years. Great
> place, but can't say I miss any of the food.
>
>
all. The first hot chick that ever let me buttfuck her was from Richmond.
Brian
Eric Takabayashi
> > So what's wrong with Niigata, the Tohoku region, Harrisburg, PA; Ohio, or
> > Indiana, that people might consider them god forsaken?
>
> They have too few 7-Elevens.I thought we had this conversation already.
I consider the local Daiso 100 yen shops (the original), and Daiei supermarket
to be much more useful than any convenience store. On one of those
see-a-celebrity-live-for-one-month-on-10,000-yen shows, I see there are stores
in Osaka and Tokyo with crazy ass daily sales like ONE yen per 100 grams of
meat (good meat), which we don't have here, but Fukuyama is good enough.
The 2-Belo
>On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 11:58:29 +0900, The 2-Belo
><the2...@msd.biPOKPOKglobe.ne.jp> belched the alphabet and kept on
>going with:
>
>>Michael Cash and fj.life.in-japan is a baaaaaaaaaaad combination:
>
>>>What's wrong with Frederick, MD? Only one truck stop; a ratty-assed
>>>TA.
>>
>>Well, see, that's where you're WRONG! When I went last year, it was GONE, RAZED
>>TO THE GROUND, and replaced with some sort of vast sprawling do-it-yourself
>>outlet megastore. Needless to say it Changed the Entire Face of the City.*
>
>Thank Dog!
>
>For being a part of one of the better truck stop chains, it was one
>hell of a shithole.
Good old 76, eh? Hell, I was sort of wary of even setting foot inside the
building that was built in its place. $deity only knows what's in the ground
water around there.
Bryce
top posting kicks ass.
"marc" <spam...@eatthis.com> wrote in message
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Declan Murphy
> very boring indeed.
>
> top posting kicks ass.
top posting is for blokes with tiny flutes.
--
"Kick it to the shithouse" - Bob Dwyer, Saturday 2nd November, 1991.
Bryce
"Declan Murphy" <declan...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Declan Murphy
> That's not even English pal!
>
> "Declan Murphy" <declan...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3F87B4E7...@hotmail.com...
>
>>Bryce wrote:
>>
>>>very boring indeed.
>>>
>>>top posting kicks ass.
>>
>>top posting is for blokes with tiny flutes.
pal is a popular dog food (re-watch mad max). And on not-quite-usenet,
even the resident net-mutts don't top post.
Bryce
"Declan Murphy" <declan...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Ryan Ginstrom
I always thought those super sales you see on TV are gimmicks the stores use
to attract customers through TV exposure. Same with those ultra cheap
ryokans and such that you see.
--
Regards,
Ryan Ginstrom
Eric Takabayashi
As long as it's true, that is, the goods are actually available at that price
as claimed, who cares? In Hawaii, the loss leader stores use to attract
customers to otherwise lackluster prices, is Spam (TM).
There is a monthly magazine called German Car or somesuch, and there are insane
deals not even advertised in Goo Online, on BMWs and Mercedes Benz. One shop
seems to specialize in dressing up BMWs in more modern parts, thus making a 97
look like a 2003 with a new grille and lights, for example. Their cheapest car
was a 3 series from 89 or 91 that looks lowered with aero parts for 30,000 yen.
I want a 540i or 750i myself, but for 30,000 yen, I'd put up with a lot of
shortcomings in a BMW, even if it were not actually running and could only be
used for parts (still a bargain) or posing in your driveway. At least in Japan,
even old cars look good.
Ryan Ginstrom
> As long as it's true, that is, the goods are actually available at that
price
> as claimed, who cares? In Hawaii, the loss leader stores use to attract
> customers to otherwise lackluster prices, is Spam (TM).
Must be an island thing -- SPAM is very popular down here as well. All the
convenience stores sell Spam (called "pooku" here) onigiri, usually with a
fried egg sandwiched in between. Plus spam is used in a lot of Okinawan
dishes, like gooya chanpuruu and pooku tamago.
--
Regards,
Ryan Ginstrom