What is the point of Asuka?
Richard Qunt
What point is there to Asuka even being in the series at all, except as a
love interest for Shinji and a foil for Rei?
All she ever seems to do is stand there whining and bitching and
occasionally getting badly beaten in her Eva. I cannot think of a single
time when she ever actually does anything useful or helpful. It seems like
she was only added so that Gainax would have another bishoujo besides Rei
and Misato to sell toys and posters of.
She also has a voice that sounds a lot like fingernails on a blackboard.
Seriously - this girl has to be the most annoying character ever. I actually
found myself cheering during the scenes where she is getting her ass handed
to her (though she never seems to learn from the experiences).
The first few eps when it was just Shinji, Rei and Misato were great - I
think that the additon of Asuka spoiled the series, turning it into another
Tenchi Muyo style comedy for a while. It took a long time to recover.
Rudolf Polzer
> I have been watching Evangelion recently and asking myself this question.
> What point is there to Asuka even being in the series at all, except as a
> love interest for Shinji and a foil for Rei?
They (GAINAX) just wanted to show what they think of people like me - Germans.
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> I have been watching Evangelion recently and asking myself this question.
> What point is there to Asuka even being in the series at all, except as a
> love interest for Shinji and a foil for Rei?
>
> All she ever seems to do is stand there whining and bitching and
> occasionally getting badly beaten in her Eva. I cannot think of a single
> time when she ever actually does anything useful or helpful. It seems like
> she was only added so that Gainax would have another bishoujo besides Rei
> and Misato to sell toys and posters of.
That's a very good way to putting it.
> She also has a voice that sounds a lot like fingernails on a blackboard.
> Seriously - this girl has to be the most annoying character ever. I actually
> found myself cheering during the scenes where she is getting her ass handed
> to her (though she never seems to learn from the experiences).
>
> The first few eps when it was just Shinji, Rei and Misato were great - I
> think that the additon of Asuka spoiled the series, turning it into another
> Tenchi Muyo style comedy for a while. It took a long time to recover.
Yes, it was on purpose.
Mind you, Asuka is supposed to be Shinji's "main" romantic interest.
Misato loves Shinji, but not THAT way, while Rei is a clone of his
mother.
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>
> I have been watching Evangelion recently and asking myself this question.
> What point is there to Asuka even being in the series at all, except as a
> love interest for Shinji and a foil for Rei?
Maybe those are the point. Mind you when I watched the first
few episodes I couldn't figure out what the point of _Shinji_ being
in the series was.
Amani
> What point is there to Asuka even being in the series at all, except as a
> love interest for Shinji and a foil for Rei?
I've always thought of Shinji, Asuka, and Rei as three points on a spectrum
of dealing with emotional trouble. Asuka and Rei are on opposite ends, with
Shinji somewhere in the middle.
Asuka is entirely, extremely human. She's a broken individual. Her mother
hung herself (with Asuka walking in and finding it while she was very
young), her father and stepmother didn't have time for her or didn't really
care. No, she's not the nicest person. You expect her to be normal with her
past? However, she does manage to focus her life enough to be a damn good
pilot.
She's not a perfect person. She's not even average. She can be a real bitch.
(I've always found Asuka's physical abuse to be wildly exaggerrated in
fanfiction.) However, there's not a lack of explanation as to her behavior.
Is this an excuse? No, of course not. Asuka, like everyone else in the
series, needs some serious therapy and has some definite issues. But she
wasn't made a bitch for the sake of having a character to verbally abuse
Shinji or to give some humor to the series. There are definite, realistic
reasons she acts the way she does. She's a disturbed, problematic girl who
has spent a good chunk of her life training to be the best. I'd guess she
didn't get much of a childhood because of this. She's a desperate person
hanging on to some ounce of pride. And we know what happens when she loses
this. She breaks. She's human.
I'll always jump to defend Asuka, as she's one of my favorite characters
ever just because she's so human and I can recognize exactly why she acts
the way she does and can see some of her defensive problems in myself. She's
too often just blown off as a bitch without people even bothering to wonder
why she acts the way she does. Jeez, sorry if she's more offensive than the
ever-stoic Rei.
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AstroNerdBoy
There's a reason she's that way. I don't know if you've seen the
entire series or not, so I won't spoil it. In the Japanese version,
she's not nearly as annoying (IMO) but she is designed to be the
spoiled brat. And I would agree that she's partly there to have
another sexy female character on screen. :-P
As for her getting beat up...watch "End of Evangelion". >:-D
Ethan Hammond
cause she was more like a real human woman than
a lot of girls in anime. ^_- Sure those nice cutsey
girls must exsist somewhere, right, RIGHT????
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Richard Qunt
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> Mind you, Asuka is supposed to be Shinji's "main" romantic interest.
> Misato loves Shinji, but not THAT way, while Rei is a clone of his
> mother.
Though if you watch EoE:
- He shared a passionate kiss with Misato.
- He screwed Rei.
- He tried to strangle Asuka twice. :)
Richard Qunt
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> Asuka is entirely, extremely human. She's a broken individual. Her mother
> hung herself (with Asuka walking in and finding it while she was very
> young), her father and stepmother didn't have time for her or didn't
really
> care. No, she's not the nicest person. You expect her to be normal with
her
> past?
No, but I wouldn't expect them to be complete cyphers either. ^_^
> However, she does manage to focus her life enough to be a damn good
> pilot.
Maybe in terms of her synch scores. In actual combat, she's much weaker than
Shinji or Rei. She's a pretty crappy pilot really.
> She's not a perfect person. She's not even average. She can be a real
bitch.
> (I've always found Asuka's physical abuse to be wildly exaggerrated in
> fanfiction.) However, there's not a lack of explanation as to her
behavior.
"I hate my parents". It's the same reason that just about everyone uses. The
rest of the cast is not so one dimensional because of this.
> Is this an excuse? No, of course not. Asuka, like everyone else in the
> series, needs some serious therapy and has some definite issues. But she
> wasn't made a bitch for the sake of having a character to verbally abuse
> Shinji or to give some humor to the series. There are definite, realistic
> reasons she acts the way she does. She's a disturbed, problematic girl who
> has spent a good chunk of her life training to be the best. I'd guess she
> didn't get much of a childhood because of this. She's a desperate person
> hanging on to some ounce of pride. And we know what happens when she loses
> this. She breaks. She's human.
This may be the case, but you have not answered my question. Why is she even
in the show in the first place - when she doesn't actually *do* anything?
> I'll always jump to defend Asuka, as she's one of my favorite characters
> ever just because she's so human and I can recognize exactly why she acts
> the way she does and can see some of her defensive problems in myself.
She's
> too often just blown off as a bitch without people even bothering to
wonder
> why she acts the way she does. Jeez, sorry if she's more offensive than
the
> ever-stoic Rei.
I like the way that Rei always comes out on top in any situation with Asuka,
making her look like the whiny child she is. Rei doesn't need to say much -
during her tantrums, she just gives Asuka enough rope to hang herself then
cuts her down with a word. It's the difference between being a woman and
being a girl.
Rei is probably the most intelligant character in the series.
Richard Qunt
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> There's a reason she's that way. I don't know if you've seen the
> entire series or not, so I won't spoil it. In the Japanese version,
> she's not nearly as annoying (IMO) but she is designed to be the
> spoiled brat. And I would agree that she's partly there to have
> another sexy female character on screen. :-P
Though she's not actually that sexy. She's scrawny and gangly-looking. She's
a lot more lolicon-style than the other women. Misato is sexy. Rei is
unbelievably sexy. Asuka just looks like a little girl to me.
> As for her getting beat up...watch "End of Evangelion". >:-D
Wonder if those whale-headed guys got indigestion?
Frank White
Whenever anyone asks me if I think they'd like Evangelion, I always
advise them to watch an episode that's got Asuka in it, first. If
they can't stand Asuka, then Evangelion will be a torment to them...
Anyway. What is the point of Asuka.
Asuka is Shinji's mirror image. They've both suffered unbearable loss
way too young, and been abandoned in their time of need. But while
Shinji has coped with this by becoming self effacing to the point he's
almost ceased to exist, Asuka responded by looking the world in the
eye and saying, "The Hell with you. I don't need ANYBODY!" She's
pushed herself relentlessly to succeed ever since, a tortured broken
thing trying to keep moving through sheer force of will and momentum.
Asuka is a testimony to how much humanity can suffer, and still go
on. She's loud, she's rude, she's obnoxious, she's incredibly
vulnerable and fragile for all her apparent strength, and that she
can take all she does and goes on is a paean to humanity.
And then she breaks. And falls apart.
Only to demonstrate in EoE that, as long as there's life, there IS hope...
FW
Thomas Edge
I'll start by saying that I'm not a huge fan of Eva but I do agree that when
the Raging Redhead first turns up it dampened by interest for it all a few
more notches.
Anyway a Phsycologist Friend of mine reckons that Anno was representing the
three personality traits through his three main leads:
Shinji = ID (doubts, self loathing etc)
Rei = Ego (existience)
Asuka = SuperEgo (assertiveness, agression etc)
Someone who knows more about thse three states may want to comment but I
think it was that wat around
regards
Tom
Josh Dull
> I have been watching Evangelion recently and asking myself this question.
> What point is there to Asuka even being in the series at all, except as a
> love interest for Shinji and a foil for Rei?
That is the point, more or less. She's also the mirror image of Shinji in
that both
have had events in their childhood involving their parents that left them
scarred
psychologically. Shinji reacts by withdrawing and calling himself worthless
while
Asuka reacts by becoming very extroverted and flaunting her worth.
Plus it doesn't hurt that she's cute and fascinating to watch.
Josh
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>Plus it doesn't hurt that she's cute and fascinating to watch.
Rei is cuter.
Rei is more fascinating.
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>Whenever anyone asks me if I think they'd like Evangelion, I always
>advise them to watch an episode that's got Asuka in it, first. If
>they can't stand Asuka, then Evangelion will be a torment to them...
Still, they can keep watching just to see Asuka's final humiliation
and fairly amusing breakdown.
Or buy the movie and see her get eaten. And strangled...
Twice.
<snip>
>And then she breaks. And falls apart.
>
>Only to demonstrate in EoE that, as long as there's life, there IS hope...
For the MP Eva's? ^_^
The Canadian Identity
> Not to piss the ladies off, but I kind of liked Asuka
> cause she was more like a real human woman than
> a lot of girls in anime. ^_- Sure those nice cutsey
> girls must exsist somewhere, right, RIGHT????
> *SHAKES FIST* To the secret catgirl building
> lab, AWAY!!!! *SCAMPERS OFF*
Shush, you. I like my girls shy and quiet. Lain, Key, Rei, to me!
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Adam Haun
<jaf...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>Anyway a Phsycologist Friend of mine reckons that Anno was representing the
>three personality traits through his three main leads:
>
>Shinji = ID (doubts, self loathing etc)
>Rei = Ego (existience)
>Asuka = SuperEgo (assertiveness, agression etc)
>
>Someone who knows more about thse three states may want to comment but I
>think it was that wat around
That's an interesting idea, but you have them mixed up. Rei is the
superego, controlled and emotionless. Asuka is the id, pure primal
desire. Shinji is the ego, halfway between, with some aspects of both.
I wonder if that would mean anything in terms of the Rei/Asuka/Misato
group?
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Thanks Adam I think you are right, I couldn't remember the sequence clearly
just the concept thanks for correcting me on this
regards
Tom
Chika
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> Shush, you. I like my girls shy and quiet. Lain, Key, Rei, to me!
Hmmm... what a coincidence! I was thinking about them only last week...
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Does Asuka want Shinji? Yes. As her punching bag.
Adam Haun
(Ken Arromdee) wrote:
>In article <3f25a10c...@news.houston.sbcglobal.net>,
>Adam Haun <ad...@mail.rit.edu> wrote:
>>That's an interesting idea, but you have them mixed up. Rei is the
>>superego, controlled and emotionless. Asuka is the id, pure primal
>>desire. Shinji is the ego, halfway between, with some aspects of both.
>>
>>I wonder if that would mean anything in terms of the Rei/Asuka/Misato
>>group?
>
>I seriously think people are overanalyzing Evangelion.
Of course, but I'm still close enough to high school English class
that it's sometimes fun.
Besides, analyses often reveal more about the analyzer than the show,
and real people are far more fun to talk about than fictional
characters.
David Nakamoto
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> On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:34:11 GMT, "Josh Dull" <cd...@woh.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Plus it doesn't hurt that she's cute and fascinating to watch.
>
> Rei is cuter.
> Rei is more fascinating.
I don't know. I like the "alternate universe" Asuka and Rei better.
Peronality-wise
that is.
But that probably has to do with the fact that all the angst started to get
to
me long before the end. :-)
Eric Moore
I'd always imagined their personalities were elemental:
Shinji -> Air. You always see him in a sky background in the opening, and he
has the least "substantial" personality of the team.
Asuka -> Fire (of course). A hot-tempered redhead, even her plug-suit and EVA
are red.
Rei -> Water. Placid. Mysterious. Note that her, and all her clone kin
were grown in a tank of liquid in NERV's basement.
Then there was the 4th EVA pilot (I forgot his name). I suspect he would
have been an "earth" type personality who would have been a much-needed
stabilizing factor in the team.
But stability isn't entertaining, so his piloting career was cut short
when his EVA was infected by an angel, and he had to face the wrath of Shinji's
dummy-plug-controlled EVA unit. Just a thought.
Hand-of-Omega
> What point is there to Asuka even being in the series at all, except as a
> love interest for Shinji and a foil for Rei?
>
> All she ever seems to do is stand there whining and bitching and
> occasionally getting badly beaten in her Eva. I cannot think of a single
> time when she ever actually does anything useful or helpful.
How far have you seen? They couldn't have beaten the "Loch Ness Angel"
in her first appearance without her...Shinji couldn't have won alone
in the "Dance like you want to win" ep...she played a valuable (and
painful) part in shielding the others so they could take out the
burrowing Angel...and of course, there's "Magma Diver", which I've yet
to find out why it's so infamous...^^
>
> She also has a voice that sounds a lot like fingernails on a blackboard.
> Seriously - this girl has to be the most annoying character ever. I actually
> found myself cheering during the scenes where she is getting her ass handed
> to her (though she never seems to learn from the experiences).
>
Ever watch El-Hazard? You'll feel twice as strongly about Fatora, and
with much more reason!
> The first few eps when it was just Shinji, Rei and Misato were great - I
> think that the additon of Asuka spoiled the series, turning it into another
> Tenchi Muyo style comedy for a while. It took a long time to recover.
I felt the exact opposite. When the series focused on two such
(outwardly) passive characters as Shinji and Rei, it really got bogged
down. Asuka added some much-needed dynamism to the show, got things
jumping. Of course, she eventually gets bogged down, too!^^
Dex,
wondering if Asuka's "mind-rape" will be in the LA movie...
Hand-of-Omega
> Shush, you. I like my girls shy and quiet. Lain, Key, Rei, to me!
Hmmm...I'll see your Lain and raise you one Zero (G-On Riders)...
>
> -Matt/Pickle/Jew-Pac [ And not quite human. ]
You or the girls?^^ [rimshot]
Blade
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<snip>
>> She also has a voice that sounds a lot like fingernails on a
>> blackboard. Seriously - this girl has to be the most annoying
>> character ever. I actually found myself cheering during the scenes
>> where she is getting her ass handed to her (though she never seems
>> to learn from the experiences).
>>
> Ever watch El-Hazard? You'll feel twice as strongly about Fatora,
> and with much more reason!
Or you'll realise she's one of the coolest, most entertaining characters
on the show, like all right-thinking people should. ;p
Blade
Benchcomix
surrogate family that gave each other a (false) sense of happiness to each
other. All 3 of them are flawed, unhappy, lonely and without any family. It was
the very first time that they all had family members and were able to find a
sense of being needed. The 3 characters living together was a major part of
Evangelion's emotional impact. Which is why the showed became painful to watch
by the end when you realize that small piece happiness they all found in one
another were shattered forever.
Also, the show was actually not a lot of fun to watch before Asuka showed up in
episode 8. Without her Evangelion was pretty dry as an anime.
CHI/cwmodels
<< From: "Richard Qunt" r.c....@hotmail.com >>
<< I have been watching Evangelion recently and asking myself this question.
What point is there to Asuka even being in the series at all, except as a
love interest for Shinji and a foil for Rei?
All she ever seems to do is stand there whining and bitching and
occasionally getting badly beaten in her Eva. I cannot think of a single
time when she ever actually does anything useful or helpful. It seems like
she was only added so that Gainax would have another bishoujo besides Rei
and Misato to sell toys and posters of.
She also has a voice that sounds a lot like fingernails on a blackboard.
Seriously - this girl has to be the most annoying character ever. I actually
found myself cheering during the scenes where she is getting her ass handed
to her (though she never seems to learn from the experiences).
The first few eps when it was just Shinji, Rei and Misato were great - I
Bob Seay
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I don't kow, but I agree with you about Asuka, I was already being
drawn in by the time Asuka was introduced, & I felt she just turned up
the intensity a notch(especially being an emotional opposite to
Shinji). I also think of those two as mirror images, but fighting the
same all too human fallacies...Shinji just reacts by withdrawing into
his shell while Asuka tries to "Rage against the dying of the light".
I also think liking Asuka depends on one's ability to sympathize with
others, to feel some of their own pain(no matter how much they may
deny being in pain)....and about Asuka's questioned piloting ability,
think about it, she had to face 9(I believe) Eva units just as
powerful as her own, ALL of them bent on her destruction, ALL of them
able to regenerate seemingly fatal damage that Asuka did to them, &
she didn't even have her external power supply connected(was cut
earlier by the human troops that she obliterated). Plus, she was
missing something that saved Shinki SEVERAL time, that S2 organ(that I
believe was related to the event of Shinki's mother being COMPLETELY
taken into Unit 01 & its subsequent consumption of an angel's S2
organ). If he hadn't had that helping him, he would've been dead VERY
early into the series, & without that edge he wouldn't have fared any
better against the MP Evas. I for one felt for Asuka, as bitchy as she
was, I could still see how she had suffered, & I always thought that
if her past weren't so difficult she might've turned out a lot
nicer(though perhaps still kind of spoiled). But, I digress......;)
Ethan Hammond
Raising hell and trying to get a response like always.
> > Not to piss the ladies off, but I kind of liked Asuka
> > cause she was more like a real human woman than
> > a lot of girls in anime. ^_- Sure those nice cutsey
> > girls must exsist somewhere, right, RIGHT????
> > *SHAKES FIST* To the secret catgirl building
> > lab, AWAY!!!! *SCAMPERS OFF*
>
> Shush, you. I like my girls shy and quiet. Lain, Key, Rei, to me!
Booo!!!! *SHAKES FIST*
Chibi-Light
<r.c....@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I have been watching Evangelion recently and asking myself this question.
>What point is there to Asuka even being in the series at all, except as a
>love interest for Shinji and a foil for Rei?
No, I think the real reason Asuka is in Eva is so that fanboys all
around the world can get into long drawn out arguements over which one
is better. This trend goes back ages, such as Akane or Ryoko,
Scarlett or Baroness, and even Daphney or Velma.
CL
Ethan Hammond
>
> >I have been watching Evangelion recently and asking myself this question.
> >What point is there to Asuka even being in the series at all, except as a
> >love interest for Shinji and a foil for Rei?
>
> No, I think the real reason Asuka is in Eva is so that fanboys all
> around the world can get into long drawn out arguements over which one
> is better. This trend goes back ages, such as Akane or Ryoko,
> Scarlett or Baroness, and even Daphney or Velma.
SCARLETT!!!!
Chibi-Light
(Chibi-Light) wrote:
>On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 03:23:48 +0100, "Richard Qunt"
><r.c....@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I have been watching Evangelion recently and asking myself this question.
>>What point is there to Asuka even being in the series at all, except as a
>>love interest for Shinji and a foil for Rei?
>
>No, I think the real reason Asuka is in Eva is so that fanboys all
>around the world can get into long drawn out arguements over which one
>is better. This trend goes back ages, such as Ayeka or Ryoko,
>Scarlett or Baroness, and even Daphney or Velma.
*waves his hands trying to distract everyone while he rewrites that
post to say Ayeka*
CL
Chibi-Light
<esha...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>"Chibi-Light" <chibiw...@YUM-SPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >I have been watching Evangelion recently and asking myself this question.
>> >What point is there to Asuka even being in the series at all, except as a
>> >love interest for Shinji and a foil for Rei?
>>
>> No, I think the real reason Asuka is in Eva is so that fanboys all
>> around the world can get into long drawn out arguements over which one
>> is better. This trend goes back ages, such as Akane or Ryoko,
>> Scarlett or Baroness, and even Daphney or Velma.
>
>SCARLETT!!!!
BARONESS!!!!!
CL
Adrian Martin
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<snip>
> Asuka -> Fire (of course). A hot-tempered redhead, even her plug-suit
> and EVA
> are red.
In the context of the Magmadiver Episode, this makes some sense, too...
>
> Rei -> Water. Placid. Mysterious. Note that her, and all her
> clone kin
> were grown in a tank of liquid in NERV's basement.
Not to mention that she likes to swim.
>
>
> Then there was the 4th EVA pilot (I forgot his name). I suspect
> he would
> have been an "earth" type personality who would have been a
> much-needed stabilizing factor in the team.
Touji.
> But stability isn't entertaining, so his piloting career was cut
> short
> when his EVA was infected by an angel, and he had to face the wrath of
> Shinji's dummy-plug-controlled EVA unit. Just a thought.
>
Interesting analysis. I never thought about it that way before. Of
course, I doubt Anno did either (conciously, anyway). =P
-Adrian
Adrian Martin
> She also has a voice that sounds a lot like fingernails on a
> blackboard. Seriously - this girl has to be the most annoying
> character ever. I actually found myself cheering during the scenes
> where she is getting her ass handed to her (though she never seems to
> learn from the experiences).
>
Sub or Dub? I think Miyamura Yuko's voice is pretty good (check her out in
Hyper Police), and not at all irritating, while obviously showing how
haughty her character is supposed to be. Tiffany Grant, on the other
hand...
-Adrian
Chika
Ken Arromdee <arro...@violet.rahul.net> wrote:
> I seriously think people are overanalyzing Evangelion.
Doesn't that always happen with anything remotely mecha based? Come to
think of it, some other forms get the same treatment too!
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> Booo!!!! *SHAKES FIST*
You wear a disguise to look like human guys...
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> In article <l6qVa.78733$0v4.5...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> Ethan Hammond <esha...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>>Booo!!!! *SHAKES FIST*
>
>
> You wear a disguise to look like human guys...
>
...but you're not a girl, you're a kitty...
- 5parrow
5parrowhawk
> In article <bg4mcu$6qa$1...@blue.rahul.net>,
> Ken Arromdee <arro...@violet.rahul.net> wrote:
>
>>I seriously think people are overanalyzing Evangelion.
>
> Doesn't that always happen with anything remotely mecha based?
Never seen it done with (1) Vandread, (2) Mazinger Z, (3) Macross...
- 5parrow
Chika
5parrowhawk <remove...@nathuangatsingnet.com.sg> wrote:
> >>I seriously think people are overanalyzing Evangelion.
> >
> > Doesn't that always happen with anything remotely mecha based?
> Never seen it done with (1) Vandread, (2) Mazinger Z, (3) Macross...
Look back through the archives for raam. I'm pretty sure I've seen
plenty...
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... Profanity, the language programmers know.
Fake Name
> In article <bg41n9$9dv$1...@news-int.gatech.edu>,
> The Canadian Identity <pic...@dramatech.org> wrote:
> > Shush, you. I like my girls shy and quiet. Lain, Key, Rei, to me!
>
> Hmmm... what a coincidence! I was thinking about them only last week...
> <http://crashnet.org.uk/lurker/fix/krl/krl.txt>
>
What about this week?
Chris Mattern
>
> Booo!!!! *SHAKES FIST*
>
Go for the eyes!
Chris Mattern
Chris Mattern
"Chibi-Light" <chibiw...@YUM-SPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3f263726...@news-server.houston.rr.com...
Chris Mattern
Chika
> What about this week?
I'll get back to you on that one!
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... 1024x768x256 - sounds like one *mean* woman!
James M
Richard Qunt <r.c....@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I have been watching Evangelion recently and asking myself this question.
> What point is there to Asuka even being in the series at all, except as a
> love interest for Shinji and a foil for Rei?
>
balence or oposite. They've both suffered from parental loss and neglect,
but have moved in very different directions. She's invessed all her self
worth in being a pilot while Shingi became passive without self worth. She's
Shingi's foil, not Rei's
> All she ever seems to do is stand there whining and bitching and
> occasionally getting badly beaten in her Eva. I cannot think of a single
> time when she ever actually does anything useful or helpful. It seems like
> she was only added so that Gainax would have another bishoujo besides Rei
> and Misato to sell toys and posters of.
Usefull? At least her failures were not for lack of trying. Shingi was
pretty useless most of the time too. Half the time his Eva bailed him out.
Lets be honest, if you were preparing for a battle to save the human race
would you let ANY of these pychological trainwrecks be involved?
Frank White
says...
>
>
>Richard Qunt <r.c....@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:bg21fr$1p8$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> I have been watching Evangelion recently and asking myself this
question.
>> What point is there to Asuka even being in the series at all, except
as a
>> love interest for Shinji and a foil for Rei?
>>
>one of the best positions I've heard is that Auska is presented as
Shingi's
>balence or oposite. They've both suffered from parental loss and
neglect,
>but have moved in very different directions. She's invessed all her self
>worth in being a pilot while Shingi became passive without self worth.
She's
>Shingi's foil, not Rei's
That Rei hacks her off is just a happy coincidence... ^_^
>> All she ever seems to do is stand there whining and bitching and
>> occasionally getting badly beaten in her Eva. I cannot think of a
single
>> time when she ever actually does anything useful or helpful. It seems
like
>> she was only added so that Gainax would have another bishoujo besides
Rei
>> and Misato to sell toys and posters of.
>
>Usefull? At least her failures were not for lack of trying. Shingi was
>pretty useless most of the time too. Half the time his Eva bailed him
out.
>Lets be honest, if you were preparing for a battle to save the human
race
>would you let ANY of these pychological trainwrecks be involved?
The thing is, Gendo WASN'T out to save the human race...
FW
Hand-of-Omega
> > Ever watch El-Hazard? You'll feel twice as strongly about Fatora,
> > and with much more reason!
>
> Or you'll realise she's one of the coolest, most entertaining characters
> on the show, like all right-thinking people should. ;p
>
...OK, *entertaining* I'll grant, in much the same way that Kodachi or
Happosai are entertaining: fun to watch, but I wouldn't want to be in
the same room, or area code, with them...
Dex
Vaughn L.Porter
> >Usefull? At least her failures were not for lack of trying. Shingi was
> >pretty useless most of the time too. Half the time his Eva bailed him
> out.
> >Lets be honest, if you were preparing for a battle to save the human
> race
> >would you let ANY of these pychological trainwrecks be involved?
>
> The thing is, Gendo WASN'T out to save the human race...
>
> FW
>
Not in the sense that he was trying to keep mankind safe AS IS, but was
rather working to achive a forced evolutionary process (and be reunited with
his beloved wife in the process). The only difference I can see between
Gendo's plans and SEELE's plans were Gendo was trying to control the process
through Rei, while I presume SEELE just wanted it to occur on it's own
(under Rei/Lillith's command). Can't imagine SEELE was too pleased to have
Shinji put in charge of deciding the outcome. But, as the old saying goes,
"...the best laid plans of men and mice..."
Vaughn L. Porter
And I do think Asuka 'complements' Shinji
quite well.
tito
>"Richard Qunt" <r.c....@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:bg21fr$1p8$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> I have been watching Evangelion recently and asking myself this question.
>> What point is there to Asuka even being in the series at all, except as a
>> love interest for Shinji and a foil for Rei?
>
>I've always thought of Shinji, Asuka, and Rei as three points on a spectrum
>of dealing with emotional trouble. Asuka and Rei are on opposite ends, with
>Shinji somewhere in the middle.
>
>Asuka is entirely, extremely human. She's a broken individual. Her mother
>hung herself (with Asuka walking in and finding it while she was very
>young), her father and stepmother didn't have time for her or didn't really
>care. No, she's not the nicest person. You expect her to be normal with her
>past? However, she does manage to focus her life enough to be a damn good
>pilot.
>
>She's not a perfect person. She's not even average. She can be a real bitch.
>(I've always found Asuka's physical abuse to be wildly exaggerrated in
>fanfiction.) However, there's not a lack of explanation as to her behavior.
>Is this an excuse? No, of course not. Asuka, like everyone else in the
>series, needs some serious therapy and has some definite issues. But she
>wasn't made a bitch for the sake of having a character to verbally abuse
>Shinji or to give some humor to the series. There are definite, realistic
>reasons she acts the way she does. She's a disturbed, problematic girl who
>has spent a good chunk of her life training to be the best. I'd guess she
>didn't get much of a childhood because of this. She's a desperate person
>hanging on to some ounce of pride. And we know what happens when she loses
>this. She breaks. She's human.
>
>I'll always jump to defend Asuka, as she's one of my favorite characters
>ever just because she's so human and I can recognize exactly why she acts
>the way she does and can see some of her defensive problems in myself. She's
>too often just blown off as a bitch without people even bothering to wonder
>why she acts the way she does. Jeez, sorry if she's more offensive than the
>ever-stoic Rei.
>
>--Taryn
>
*nod* The same can be said of Shinji 'being a loser' status, who isn't
as cute schoolgirl and thus never gets as many fandom defenders. (Was
Shinji particularly dislike by Japanese fans? Most - largely
irrational - fan hatred of him seems to be a Western thing.)
tito
<r.c....@hotmail.com> wrote:
>"AstroNerdBoy" <sp...@astronerdboy.com> wrote in message
>news:7e562e8e.03072...@posting.google.com...
>> There's a reason she's that way. I don't know if you've seen the
>> entire series or not, so I won't spoil it. In the Japanese version,
>> she's not nearly as annoying (IMO) but she is designed to be the
>> spoiled brat. And I would agree that she's partly there to have
>> another sexy female character on screen. :-P
>
>Though she's not actually that sexy. She's scrawny and gangly-looking. She's
>a lot more lolicon-style than the other women. Misato is sexy. Rei is
>unbelievably sexy. Asuka just looks like a little girl to me.
Lolicon style? Well, I think she does tend to give of off a younger
personality since she's more cheerful than Rei but not sexyteasing
like Misato.
Actually, for the most part serious/stoic girls in anime always tend
to come off as much older in personality (Ruri Rule? <g>).
>> As for her getting beat up...watch "End of Evangelion". >:-D
>
>Wonder if those whale-headed guys got indigestion?
>
tito
wrote:
>On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 02:33:02 +0000 (UTC), arro...@violet.rahul.net
>(Ken Arromdee) wrote:
>
>>In article <3f25a10c...@news.houston.sbcglobal.net>,
>>Adam Haun <ad...@mail.rit.edu> wrote:
>>>That's an interesting idea, but you have them mixed up. Rei is the
>>>superego, controlled and emotionless. Asuka is the id, pure primal
>>>desire. Shinji is the ego, halfway between, with some aspects of both.
>>>
>>>I wonder if that would mean anything in terms of the Rei/Asuka/Misato
>>>group?
>>
>>I seriously think people are overanalyzing Evangelion.
>
>Of course, but I'm still close enough to high school English class
>that it's sometimes fun.
>
>Besides, analyses often reveal more about the analyzer than the show,
>and real people are far more fun to talk about than fictional
>characters.
Besides talking about id/ego/superego is essentially the same as the
whole Three Faces Of Eve setup used in moviemaking. It's just the
wording is more academic.
tito
wrote:
>On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 00:36:26 +0800, "Thomas Edge"
><jaf...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
>>Anyway a Phsycologist Friend of mine reckons that Anno was representing the
>>three personality traits through his three main leads:
>>
>>Shinji = ID (doubts, self loathing etc)
>>Rei = Ego (existience)
>>Asuka = SuperEgo (assertiveness, agression etc)
>>
>>Someone who knows more about thse three states may want to comment but I
>>think it was that wat around
>
>That's an interesting idea, but you have them mixed up. Rei is the
>superego, controlled and emotionless. Asuka is the id, pure primal
>desire. Shinji is the ego, halfway between, with some aspects of both.
>
>I wonder if that would mean anything in terms of the Rei/Asuka/Misato
>group?
The 3 Faces Of Eve? Or close, since that's usually child/mother/lover,
'cute/bitchy/sexy' putting it crudely.
tito
wrote:
>ad...@mail.rit.edu (Adam Haun) wrote in message news:<3f25a10c...@news.houston.sbcglobal.net>...
>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 00:36:26 +0800, "Thomas Edge"
>> <jaf...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>
>> >Anyway a Phsycologist Friend of mine reckons that Anno was representing the
>> >three personality traits through his three main leads:
>> >
>> >Shinji = ID (doubts, self loathing etc)
>> >Rei = Ego (existience)
>> >Asuka = SuperEgo (assertiveness, agression etc)
>> >
>> >Someone who knows more about thse three states may want to comment but I
>> >think it was that wat around
>>
>> That's an interesting idea, but you have them mixed up. Rei is the
>> superego, controlled and emotionless. Asuka is the id, pure primal
>> desire. Shinji is the ego, halfway between, with some aspects of both.
>>
>> I wonder if that would mean anything in terms of the Rei/Asuka/Misato
>> group?
>
>
> I'd always imagined their personalities were elemental:
>
>Shinji -> Air. You always see him in a sky background in the opening, and he
> has the least "substantial" personality of the team.
>
>Asuka -> Fire (of course). A hot-tempered redhead, even her plug-suit and EVA
> are red.
>
>Rei -> Water. Placid. Mysterious. Note that her, and all her clone kin
> were grown in a tank of liquid in NERV's basement.
>
>
> Then there was the 4th EVA pilot (I forgot his name). I suspect he would
>have been an "earth" type personality who would have been a much-needed
>stabilizing factor in the team.
You're not too far of the mark. Touji (the 4th, and Shinji's
schoolfriend) is somewhat like Asuka but only a bit. He's more crass
and 'earthy' tho genuinely a good person and doesn't like showoffs.
[Actually, Asuka & Touji's similarities are prolly intentional, since
they comedically don't get along.]
tito
<res0...@verizon.net> wrote:
>"Psaiyan Prince Vegeta" <ppve...@hotmail.communism> wrote in message
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>> On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:34:11 GMT, "Josh Dull" <cd...@woh.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Plus it doesn't hurt that she's cute and fascinating to watch.
>>
>> Rei is cuter.
>> Rei is more fascinating.
>
>I don't know. I like the "alternate universe" Asuka and Rei better.
>Peronality-wise
>that is.
>
When the rumored Girlfriend of Steel shoujo(!) manga [based on the
second, Apparently-AU EVA 'datesim' game] comes out in Asuka Monthly
it'll be interesting to see how the EVA characters fare within a
'normal' universe.
>But that probably has to do with the fact that all the angst started to get
>to
>me long before the end. :-)
>
tito
>smili...@hotmail.com (Hand-of-Omega) wrote in
>news:27420f11.03072...@posting.google.com:
>
><snip>
>
>>> She also has a voice that sounds a lot like fingernails on a
>>> blackboard. Seriously - this girl has to be the most annoying
>>> character ever. I actually found myself cheering during the scenes
>>> where she is getting her ass handed to her (though she never seems
>>> to learn from the experiences).
>>>
>> Ever watch El-Hazard? You'll feel twice as strongly about Fatora,
>> and with much more reason!
>
>Or you'll realise she's one of the coolest, most entertaining characters
>on the show, like all right-thinking people should. ;p
>
> Blade
Hmm. Methinks the poster could mean OAV Fatora, who acts pretty mean
given her very limited screentime?
I mean, considering how many AUs El Hazard has now, it pays to be
specific to WHICH version someone's talking about...
(Is Fatora in the EH manga? I've heard the manga draws aspects from
all the AUs into a interesting new one)
Ethan Hammond
>
> BARONESS!!!!!
Scarlett is the second most dangerous Joe and she is doing the
most dangerous one!!!! SCARLETT!!!! *SHAKES FIST*
Ethan Hammond
>
> > Booo!!!! *SHAKES FIST*
>
> You wear a disguise to look like human guys...
Chicken Boo is the f'n shyt yo!!!!
Ethan Hammond
>
> >>Booo!!!! *SHAKES FIST*
> >
> >
> > You wear a disguise to look like human guys...
> >
>
> ...but you're not a girl, you're a kitty...
Boooooooo!!!!
Ethan Hammond
>
> > Booo!!!! *SHAKES FIST*
> >
> Go for the eyes!
Someone watched Adult Swim on Sunday.
Ethan Hammond
>
> Besides talking about id/ego/superego is essentially the same as the
> whole Three Faces Of Eve setup used in moviemaking. It's just the
> wording is more academic.
And how. ^_-
Blade
> Blade <kumo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:<Xns93C747FBC...@66.185.95.104>...
>> smili...@hotmail.com (Hand-of-Omega) wrote in
>> news:27420f11.03072...@posting.google.com:
>>
>
>> > Ever watch El-Hazard? You'll feel twice as strongly about Fatora,
>> > and with much more reason!
>>
>> Or you'll realise she's one of the coolest, most entertaining
>> characters on the show, like all right-thinking people should. ;p
>>
> ...OK, *entertaining* I'll grant, in much the same way that Kodachi
> or Happosai are entertaining: fun to watch, but I wouldn't want to
> be in the same room, or area code, with them...
Well, yeah. And a world with Kalia in it is probably not one I'd wish to
inhabit, if for no other than my likely soon-to-be-non-inhabitance of it
(or anywhere else).
But we're talking about a character on a screen here, not someone we have
to live with. ;p Fatora is fabulously entertaining.
Of course, like all things El Hazard, she's even more entertaining
dubbed. "And when Fatora sets out to conquer a foreign tongue, it's
foreign tongue Fatora gets!"
Blade
Blade
news:3811d8811ed31c81...@free.teranews.com:
> On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 04:26:24 GMT, Blade <kumo...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>smili...@hotmail.com (Hand-of-Omega) wrote in
>>news:27420f11.03072...@posting.google.com:
>>
>><snip>
>>
>>>> She also has a voice that sounds a lot like fingernails on a
>>>> blackboard. Seriously - this girl has to be the most annoying
>>>> character ever. I actually found myself cheering during the
>>>> scenes where she is getting her ass handed to her (though she
>>>> never seems to learn from the experiences).
>>>>
>>> Ever watch El-Hazard? You'll feel twice as strongly about Fatora,
>>> and with much more reason!
>>
>>Or you'll realise she's one of the coolest, most entertaining
>>characters on the show, like all right-thinking people should. ;p
>>
>> Blade
>
> Hmm. Methinks the poster could mean OAV Fatora, who acts pretty mean
> given her very limited screentime?
Could hardly miss, given that she's the ONLY Fatora.
And you presumably have not watched either OAV2 or The Alternative World,
which are sequels to the first OAV and have Fatora get quite a bit of
screentime.
> I mean, considering how many AUs El Hazard has now, it pays to be
> specific to WHICH version someone's talking about...
El Hazard only has two anime universes, Wanderers (the first TV series)
and Original (everything else). They're not really hard to keep track
of. This ain't Tenchi here.
> (Is Fatora in the EH manga? I've heard the manga draws aspects from
> all the AUs into a interesting new one)
Nope. And she's not in the Saturn game, either, except as a cameo. She
might be in some of the radio dramas, but that's getting a bit obscure.
Blade
Blade
> "Chris Mattern" <matt...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>
>> > Booo!!!! *SHAKES FIST*
>> >
>> Go for the eyes!
>
> Someone watched Adult Swim on Sunday.
Or plays Baldur's Gate.
Blade
Chika
Ethan Hammond <esha...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> "Chika" <miy...@spam.no.way> wrote in message
> >
> > > Booo!!!! *SHAKES FIST*
> >
> > You wear a disguise to look like human guys...
> Chicken Boo is the f'n shyt yo!!!!
He disguised himself as that too?!?
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Psaiyan Prince Vegeta
>When the rumored Girlfriend of Steel shoujo(!) manga [based on the
>second, Apparently-AU EVA 'datesim' game] comes out in Asuka Monthly
>it'll be interesting to see how the EVA characters fare within a
>'normal' universe.
By the looks of things in the game, Shinji is a real horndog. Might be
interesting to see how Asuka reacts to his hitting on her...
The idea of a genki Rei disturbs me greatly.
--
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ICQ: 260681668
I wish that I could turn back time,
'cos now the guilt is all mine.
Can't live without
the trust from those you love.
I know we can't forget the past
you can't forget love & pride,
because of that, it's killing me inside.
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Psaiyan Prince Vegeta
>The 3 Faces Of Eve? Or close, since that's usually child/mother/lover,
Asuka/Misato/Rei then? ^_^
Gillian von Karmann
> I have been watching Evangelion recently and asking myself this question.
> What point is there to Asuka even being in the series at all, except as a
> love interest for Shinji and a foil for Rei?
>
> All she ever seems to do is stand there whining and bitching and
> occasionally getting badly beaten in her Eva. I cannot think of a single
> time when she ever actually does anything useful or helpful. It seems like
> she was only added so that Gainax would have another bishoujo besides Rei
> and Misato to sell toys and posters of.
>
> She also has a voice that sounds a lot like fingernails on a blackboard.
> Seriously - this girl has to be the most annoying character ever. I actually
> found myself cheering during the scenes where she is getting her ass handed
> to her (though she never seems to learn from the experiences).
>
> The first few eps when it was just Shinji, Rei and Misato were great - I
> think that the additon of Asuka spoiled the series, turning it into another
> Tenchi Muyo style comedy for a while. It took a long time to recover.
Souryuu Asuka Langley is a *living*, *REAL*, character.
Ayanami Rei is just an ayatsuri ningyou, after all. That's that.
Regards,
watakushi.
Frank White
says...
>
>smili...@hotmail.com (Hand-of-Omega) wrote in
>news:27420f11.03072...@posting.google.com:
>
>> Blade <kumo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:<Xns93C747FBC...@66.185.95.104>...
>>> smili...@hotmail.com (Hand-of-Omega) wrote in
>>> news:27420f11.03072...@posting.google.com:
>>>
>>
>>> > Ever watch El-Hazard? You'll feel twice as strongly about Fatora,
>>> > and with much more reason!
>>>
>>> Or you'll realise she's one of the coolest, most entertaining
>>> characters on the show, like all right-thinking people should. ;p
>>>
>> ...OK, *entertaining* I'll grant, in much the same way that Kodachi
>> or Happosai are entertaining: fun to watch, but I wouldn't want to
>> be in the same room, or area code, with them...
>
>Well, yeah. And a world with Kalia in it is probably not one I'd wish to
>inhabit, if for no other than my likely soon-to-be-non-inhabitance of it
>(or anywhere else).
Ah heck, sure you would.
Especially if you were Kalia's master, and you knew to keep her far
away from the Trigger...
>But we're talking about a character on a screen here, not someone we have
>to live with. ;p Fatora is fabulously entertaining.
Can't deny that she definately gets your attention when she's on
screen.
I still think there's more to her than we've seen, though. I mean,
when Makoto and Co. rescue her from the Bugrom and bring her back
to the Palace, everyone actually seems glad to see her. That may
just be for Rune Venus' sake, or because with her there they can
finally use the Eye; but I have to think Fatora may not be as
much of a rhymes-with-witch as we see her being, most of the time.
>Of course, like all things El Hazard, she's even more entertaining
>dubbed. "And when Fatora sets out to conquer a foreign tongue, it's
>foreign tongue Fatora gets!"
"Let's shake the dew off this lily!"
^_^
FW
tito
<ppve...@hotmail.communism> wrote:
>On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 04:48:33 GMT, tito <o...@flockofbloops.com> wrote:
>
>>When the rumored Girlfriend of Steel shoujo(!) manga [based on the
>>second, Apparently-AU EVA 'datesim' game] comes out in Asuka Monthly
>>it'll be interesting to see how the EVA characters fare within a
>>'normal' universe.
>
>By the looks of things in the game, Shinji is a real horndog. Might be
>interesting to see how Asuka reacts to his hitting on her...
>
>The idea of a genki Rei disturbs me greatly.
Depends on which Rei is Rei. (No, not like that..)
From dicussions I've heard so far, the manga is based on the SEQUEL to
the original GoS game, which was attempted to be shoehorned into the
exsiting series. The sequel seems to be a complete AU in a 'normal'
universe, most likely an in-joke reference to Shinji's imagined
reality from the last TV episode.
*who thinks with some work Shinji could be bishounen, if his likeness
of his mother is any indication...*
Josh Dull
> --
> Reverend David "PPV" Hawthorne -
> ICQ: 260681668
Or if one is so inclined Rei/Misato/Asuka.
Josh
Josh Dull
Rei is cute, but imho not as cute as Asuka. But I think this has to do with
I like the combination of Asuka's personality with her looks. Rei just
has looks. Which aren't my type.
> Rei is more fascinating.
More engimatic, but I guess that can be seen as being the same as
fascinating.
So I'll grant you that.
Josh
Simond
"Eric Moore" <dump...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> I'd always imagined their personalities were elemental:
>
I thought there were five Far Eastern elements?
Hmmm...maybe Kaworu....
--
Simond
"I ask for so little. Just fear me, love me, do as I say and I will be your
slave." - Jarerth the Goblin King, Labyrinth
James M
> Chika wrote:
> > In article <bg4mcu$6qa$1...@blue.rahul.net>,
> > Ken Arromdee <arro...@violet.rahul.net> wrote:
> >
> >>I seriously think people are overanalyzing Evangelion.
> >
>
> Never seen it done with (1) Vandread, (2) Mazinger Z, (3) Macross...
>
> - 5parrow
>
Macross was overanalized at the time, 2nd and 3rd generation robotech even
more so. I guess because no one really knew what was going on half of the
time.
Psaiyan Prince Vegeta
<simond@.boredofspamnow.apocalypsecow.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>"Eric Moore" <dump...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:caecc289.03072...@posting.google.com...
>>
>>
>> I'd always imagined their personalities were elemental:
>>
><snip>
>
>I thought there were five Far Eastern elements?
>Hmmm...maybe Kaworu....
You're probably thinking of 'Captain Planet'... ^_^
Whenever I watched that, I always used to pity the small Mexican child
who was given the power of 'Heart'...
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Psaiyan Prince Vegeta <ppve...@hotmail.communism> wrote:
> >I thought there were five Far Eastern elements?
> >Hmmm...maybe Kaworu....
> You're probably thinking of 'Captain Planet'... ^_^
> Whenever I watched that, I always used to pity the small Mexican child
> who was given the power of 'Heart'...
Ahh... animation to cringe by. I was watching just such animation over the
weekend; Chuck Norris, Mr. T and so forth. Thank goodness for fast forward
and mute buttons!!!
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Frank White
simond@.boredofspamnow.apocalypsecow.demon.co.uk says...
>
>
>"Eric Moore" <dump...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:caecc289.03072...@posting.google.com...
>>
>>
>> I'd always imagined their personalities were elemental:
>>
><snip>
>
>I thought there were five Far Eastern elements?
>Hmmm...maybe Kaworu....
Let's see...
Water, fire, wood, metal, and light.
Aren't those the Eastern elements?
FW. Talking off the top of his head.
Ethan Hammond
>
> > > > Booo!!!! *SHAKES FIST*
> > >
> > > You wear a disguise to look like human guys...
>
> > Chicken Boo is the f'n shyt yo!!!!
>
> He disguised himself as that too?!?
No, not literally.
Ethan Hammond
> >>
> >> > Booo!!!! *SHAKES FIST*
> >> >
> >> Go for the eyes!
> >
> > Someone watched Adult Swim on Sunday.
>
> Or plays Baldur's Gate.
Yes it is a rich tapestry!!!!
5parrowhawk
> Let's see...
>
> Water, fire, wood, metal, and light.
>
> Aren't those the Eastern elements?
>
> FW. Talking off the top of his head.
Off-hand I haven't seen Light as an element (except in Squaresoft
games). Void, OTOH, is a bona fide element AFAIK.
- 5parrow
Uiler
The 5 Chinese elements are water, fire, wood, metal and earth.
Uiler
Psaiyan Prince Vegeta
If anyone, and I mean ANYONE mentions Rei here, I will personally kill
them, eat them and make their skin into a lampshade... ¬_¬
Chika
Ethan Hammond <esha...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> "Chika" <miy...@spam.no.way> wrote in message
> >
> > > > > Booo!!!! *SHAKES FIST*
> > > >
> > > > You wear a disguise to look like human guys...
> >
> > > Chicken Boo is the f'n shyt yo!!!!
> >
> > He disguised himself as that too?!?
> No, not literally.
Just as well, then. That would have made him Chicken Sh....<mwah!
Goodnight everybody!!!>
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Chika
Ethan Hammond <esha...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> "Blade" <kumo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> > > "Chris Mattern" <matt...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > >>
> > >> > Booo!!!! *SHAKES FIST*
> > >> >
> > >> Go for the eyes!
> > >
> > > Someone watched Adult Swim on Sunday.
> >
> > Or plays Baldur's Gate.
> Yes it is a rich tapestry!!!!
I thought it was a gate...
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Gillian von Karmann
> Richard Qunt wrote:
> > I have been watching Evangelion recently and asking myself this question.
> > What point is there to Asuka even being in the series at all, except as a
> > love interest for Shinji and a foil for Rei?
> Maybe those are the point. Mind you when I watched the first
> few episodes I couldn't figure out what the point of _Shinji_ being
> in the series was.
Now, when someone comes tell you that your IQ is even much smaller than it
has ever seemed, you will have no right to be angry at them.
INTELLIGENT ANIME FANFICTION @
http://www.rakhal.com/AlexGray/gillian_tales/weird_index.html
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Gillian von Karmann
> Frank White wrote:
Fire, Water, Metal, Wood and *Earth*, FYI.
P.S.: Ever been to a decent public library?
Not only because of your lazy teachers, I mean.
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Frank White
ppve...@hotmail.communism says...
>
>On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 04:48:33 GMT, tito <o...@flockofbloops.com> wrote:
>
>>When the rumored Girlfriend of Steel shoujo(!) manga [based on the
>>second, Apparently-AU EVA 'datesim' game] comes out in Asuka Monthly
>>it'll be interesting to see how the EVA characters fare within a
>>'normal' universe.
>
>By the looks of things in the game, Shinji is a real horndog. Might be
>interesting to see how Asuka reacts to his hitting on her...
>
>The idea of a genki Rei disturbs me greatly.
(imagines Rei behaving like Tomo-chan from 'Azumanga Daioh')
(gets the shakes)
(imagines Asuka reacting to a hyper genki Rei)
(starts laughing, evilly)
^_^
FW
David Johnston
>
> David Johnston <rgo...@telusplanet.net> wrote in message news:<3F24C1...@telusplanet.net>...
>
> > Richard Qunt wrote:
>
> > > I have been watching Evangelion recently and asking myself this question.
> > > What point is there to Asuka even being in the series at all, except as a
> > > love interest for Shinji and a foil for Rei?
>
>
> > Maybe those are the point. Mind you when I watched the first
> > few episodes I couldn't figure out what the point of _Shinji_ being
> > in the series was.
>
> Now, when someone comes tell you that your IQ is even much smaller than it
> has ever seemed, you will have no right to be angry at them.
>
Because I dislike Shinji? I think you'll need better justification than
that.
THM
news:10raivg34gmtn6vst...@4ax.com:
> On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:34:11 GMT, "Josh Dull" <cd...@woh.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Plus it doesn't hurt that she's cute and fascinating to watch.
>
> Rei is cuter.
> Rei is more fascinating.
>
> ^_^
Absolutely.
- THM
Hand-of-Omega
> >> smili...@hotmail.com (Hand-of-Omega) wrote in
> >> news:27420f11.03072...@posting.google.com:
> >>
>
> >> > Ever watch El-Hazard? You'll feel twice as strongly about Fatora,
> >> > and with much more reason!
> >>
> >> Or you'll realise she's one of the coolest, most entertaining
> >> characters on the show, like all right-thinking people should. ;p
> >>
> > ...OK, *entertaining* I'll grant, in much the same way that Kodachi
> > or Happosai are entertaining: fun to watch, but I wouldn't want to
> > be in the same room, or area code, with them...
>
> Well, yeah. And a world with Kalia in it is probably not one I'd wish to
> inhabit, if for no other than my likely soon-to-be-non-inhabitance of it
> (or anywhere else).
>
> to live with. ;p Fatora is fabulously entertaining.
>
to On]
Oh, yeah, you're right!
> Of course, like all things El Hazard, she's even more entertaining
> dubbed. "And when Fatora sets out to conquer a foreign tongue, it's
> foreign tongue Fatora gets!"
>
Another line of hers that really cracked me up was after she
sneak-kissed Shayla-Shayla, and said something about her being "not a
bad score"!
Dex,
wondering how many years till Adult Swim can handle El-Hazard...
Ethan Hammond
>
>
> I thought it was a gate...
O.o;;;;
Hans Holm
Gillian von Karmann <vonka...@yahoo.com> skrev i
diskussionsgruppsmeddelandet:32fc108e.03073...@posting.google.com
...
>
> Fire, Water, Metal, Wood and *Earth*, FYI.
Earth, Water, Air, Fire and Akasha ("Ether", according to my
sources, but I suppose "Void" is an equally approximate translation.)
Chika
Ethan Hammond <esha...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> "Chika" <miy...@spam.no.way> wrote in message
> >
> > > Yes it is a rich tapestry!!!!
> >
> > I thought it was a gate...
> O.o;;;;
That was my impression of Melody from the HB cartoon "Josie & the
Pussycats" (1970). I would have done the giggle too, but it's hard to do
that in text...
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Frank White
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All I needed to know, I learned from anime.
^_^
FW
Gillian von Karmann
One may say that the Greek word "Aithêr"(air from the heights) is more or less
equivalent to the Sanskrit word Âkasha. I don't see how the whole idea of
"void" could be considered as a good synonym for Âkasha or Aithêr, except
in the intellectually-perverted environment of the "rational"
materialistic way of viewing the world.
Watakushi.
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Sauka
turn away from being a yawn fest of misato crying and thinking god
hates her, rei wispering out a few words every 5 episodes and shinji
runing away on a subway every 2 episodes while staring at the floor
for hours. she riles it all up and makes it interesting, she's ultra
hot and is the best dam pilot in the series the only thing shinji has
over her is the eva-01 test type which flips out convenientley and
saves his ass ( satchiel ( ist one ) sureal ( the one unit 1 goes
berserk on ) and a bunch of other ones im to tired to go into. in the
final eva movie we see asuka woop seriouse ass and show what she can
do fight fairly against and enemy without needing her eva to go god
like and save her ass. of course she is defeated in the end ( wouldnt
be much of a movie if she won would it? ) but not before she beats the
shit outa the eva series. did i mention she is hot? she adds a mystery
that isnt just plain confusing to thoughs who havent watched the
seriouse over and over like with rei's past. all and all asuka is the
bad ass of the universe that was cripled by being prematurley thrusted
into an adult position and not being able to cope with it. o and did i
mention she was hot?
Sauka- Dark Lilum
Ethan Hammond
>
> Pussycats" (1970). I would have done the giggle too, but it's hard to do
> that in text...
Its okay to giggle mmmm. ^_-
Chika
Sauka <nuke...@cs.com> wrote:
> asuka is like salt of french fries...
Hope your shift key recovers soon...
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Dean Siren
> Seriously - this girl has to be the most annoying character ever. I actually
> found myself cheering during the scenes where she is getting her ass handed
> to her (though she never seems to learn from the experiences).
Don't let her voice actress hear you say that. I met Tiffany Grant yesterday at
AFO and she's pretty nice in person.
Psaiyan Prince Vegeta
wrote:
>Don't let her voice actress hear you say that. I met Tiffany Grant yesterday at
>AFO and she's pretty nice in person.
Does she sound anything like Asuka in real life?
Frank White
ppve...@hotmail.communism says...
>
>On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 01:04:15 GMT, "Dean Siren" <dea...@earthlink.net>
>wrote:
>
>>Don't let her voice actress hear you say that. I met Tiffany Grant
yesterday at
>>AFO and she's pretty nice in person.
>
>Does she sound anything like Asuka in real life?
Does she LOOK anything like Asuka in real life?
FW