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And I thought the olympic coverage was bad

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Ryan Ginstrom

未読、
2003/09/12 12:37:422003/09/12
To:
During the Olympics, I was disappointed by the Japaense TV coverage. They
weren't showing olympic judo, they were showing the Japanese athletes
competing in olympic judo. They would cut out from gold-medal matches to
show the full matches of Japanese athletes in the repecharge (not even medal
matches), and at least once they cut out of scheduled coverage alltogether
when there were no more Japanese left competing that day.

But the coverage of the 2003 judo world championships is even worse.
Watching it, you would think that this was one of those cheesy Japanese
yarase-mentaries on the Japanese team's successes and failures at the
tournament, rather than actual coverage. I realize it's because they can't
get enough TV time to show the whole tournament, but in the time they did
have I'd like to see the most exciting/important matches, not one of the
Japanese players winning on points in the first or second round. At least
they did show (clips of) the gold medal matches.

</rant>

On the good side, I don't mind watching all of Inoue Kousei's matches --
that guy is amazing.

--
Regards,
Ryan Ginstrom

Declan Murphy

未読、
2003/09/12 14:28:482003/09/12
To:
Whinging gaigin Ryan Ginstrom who isn't even Nippon gathered himself up

onto his elbows and wrote:
> During the Olympics, I was disappointed by the Japaense TV coverage. They
> weren't showing olympic judo, they were showing the Japanese athletes
> competing in olympic judo. They would cut out from gold-medal matches to
> show the full matches of Japanese athletes in the repecharge (not even medal
> matches), and at least once they cut out of scheduled coverage alltogether
> when there were no more Japanese left competing that day.

I'm shocked and horrified to read that. Nearly as shocked and horrified
as I was to learn that there are events at the Olympics other than Judo
and the women's marathon.

> But the coverage of the 2003 judo world championships is even worse.<snip>

But the coverage is from Osaka...

> On the good side, I don't mind watching all of Inoue Kousei's matches --
> that guy is amazing.

Not being a judo fan, I take it he is relatively local in terms of origin?


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未読、
2003/09/12 21:24:492003/09/12
To:
Declan Murphy <declan...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I'm shocked and horrified to read that. Nearly as shocked and horrified
> as I was to learn that there are events at the Olympics other than Judo
> and the women's marathon.

Mud wrestling?

Mike

Ryan Ginstrom

未読、
2003/09/12 21:42:382003/09/12
To:

"Declan Murphy" <declan...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3F621060...@hotmail.com...

> Whinging gaigin Ryan Ginstrom who isn't even Nippon gathered himself up
> onto his elbows and wrote:
> > During the Olympics, I was disappointed by the Japaense TV coverage.
They
> > weren't showing olympic judo, they were showing the Japanese athletes
> > competing in olympic judo. They would cut out from gold-medal matches to
> > show the full matches of Japanese athletes in the repecharge (not even
medal
> > matches), and at least once they cut out of scheduled coverage
alltogether
> > when there were no more Japanese left competing that day.
>
> I'm shocked and horrified to read that. Nearly as shocked and horrified
> as I was to learn that there are events at the Olympics other than Judo
> and the women's marathon.

Yeah, I wish they'd drop that lame marathon crap. Well, you can be pretty
sure they will once Naoko retires, or stops winning races.

I realize that if you're not a judo fan, you might be bummed that you can't
watch your 100-,meter hurdles or skeet shooting or whatever lame sport it is
that you like to watch. But Japan is after all the home of judo, so it's to
be expected that it will get the lion's share of the coverage (especially on
NHK). But for god's sake, show a little love of the sport, or at the very
least a bit less partidarism.

> > On the good side, I don't mind watching all of Inoue Kousei's matches --
> > that guy is amazing.
>
> Not being a judo fan, I take it he is relatively local in terms of origin?

Local in the sense that he's Japanese, yes. I think he's from Shizuoka
originally. But he's the current hero of Japanese judo, in a sport that
needs heroes badly.

He really is amazing to watch, though, and he's got a good story, too. He
was a middling judoka, then his mother died and he decided to win a gold
medal for her, and transformed into this judo god -- his father sat in the
crowd holding a picture of his mother in every match up to the olympics,
then Inoue held a picture of her up on the podium.

--
Regards,
Ryan Ginstrom

Ernest Schaal

未読、
2003/09/12 23:39:482003/09/12
To:
in article 3F621060...@hotmail.com, Declan Murphy at
declan...@hotmail.com wrote on 9/13/03 3:28 AM:

> Whinging gaigin Ryan Ginstrom who isn't even Nippon gathered himself up
> onto his elbows and wrote:
>> During the Olympics, I was disappointed by the Japaense TV coverage. They
>> weren't showing olympic judo, they were showing the Japanese athletes
>> competing in olympic judo. They would cut out from gold-medal matches to
>> show the full matches of Japanese athletes in the repecharge (not even medal
>> matches), and at least once they cut out of scheduled coverage alltogether
>> when there were no more Japanese left competing that day.
>
> I'm shocked and horrified to read that. Nearly as shocked and horrified
> as I was to learn that there are events at the Olympics other than Judo
> and the women's marathon.

I am shocked to learn that there was more than one person who came to bat at
Yankee games, and more than one person who came to bat at Mariner games.

The 2-Belo

未読、
2003/09/12 23:50:332003/09/12
To:
Ernest Schaal and fj.life.in-japan is a baaaaaaaaaaad combination:

I was surprised to learn that there were more than four teams in Major League
Baseball.


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Ernest Schaal

未読、
2003/09/12 23:53:322003/09/12
To:
in article 3f6293a3$0$2944$df06...@news.sexzilla.net, The 2-Belo at
the2...@removethiswave-net.or.jp wrote on 9/13/03 12:50 PM:

> Ernest Schaal and fj.life.in-japan is a baaaaaaaaaaad combination:
>
>> in article 3F621060...@hotmail.com, Declan Murphy at
>> declan...@hotmail.com wrote on 9/13/03 3:28 AM:
>>
>>> Whinging gaigin Ryan Ginstrom who isn't even Nippon gathered himself up
>>> onto his elbows and wrote:
>>>> During the Olympics, I was disappointed by the Japaense TV coverage. They
>>>> weren't showing olympic judo, they were showing the Japanese athletes
>>>> competing in olympic judo. They would cut out from gold-medal matches to
>>>> show the full matches of Japanese athletes in the repecharge (not even
>>>> medal
>>>> matches), and at least once they cut out of scheduled coverage alltogether
>>>> when there were no more Japanese left competing that day.
>>>
>>> I'm shocked and horrified to read that. Nearly as shocked and horrified
>>> as I was to learn that there are events at the Olympics other than Judo
>>> and the women's marathon.
>>
>> I am shocked to learn that there was more than one person who came to bat at
>> Yankee games, and more than one person who came to bat at Mariner games.
>
> I was surprised to learn that there were more than four teams in Major League
> Baseball.

Four? There are that many?

Reg Blank

未読、
2003/09/13 0:58:042003/09/13
To:
"Ryan Ginstrom" <gins...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<bjssor$mv4p8$1...@ID-101276.news.uni-berlin.de>...

> During the Olympics, I was disappointed by the Japaense TV coverage. They
> weren't showing olympic judo, they were showing the Japanese athletes
> competing in olympic judo. They would cut out from gold-medal matches to
> show the full matches of Japanese athletes in the repecharge (not even medal
> matches), and at least once they cut out of scheduled coverage alltogether
> when there were no more Japanese left competing that day.
>
> But the coverage of the 2003 judo world championships is even worse.
> Watching it, you would think that this was one of those cheesy Japanese
> yarase-mentaries on the Japanese team's successes and failures at the
> tournament, rather than actual coverage. I realize it's because they can't
> get enough TV time to show the whole tournament, but in the time they did
> have I'd like to see the most exciting/important matches, not one of the
> Japanese players winning on points in the first or second round. At least
> they did show (clips of) the gold medal matches.
>
> </rant>

That reminds me of the women's marathon in Paris a few weeks ago. All
I heard was that Japanese women took 2nd to 4th places. Never found
out who actually took 1st. A friend pointed out that I (and the rest
of Japan) wouldn't know the name of the person anyway, so it wasn't
news worthy!

Now back to your regular programming...

Reg.

Declan Murphy

未読、
2003/09/14 10:26:552003/09/14
To:
Ryan Ginstrom wrote:
> "Declan Murphy" <declan...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3F621060...@hotmail.com...

>>I'm shocked and horrified to read that. Nearly as shocked and horrified


>>as I was to learn that there are events at the Olympics other than Judo
>>and the women's marathon.
>
> Yeah, I wish they'd drop that lame marathon crap. Well, you can be pretty
> sure they will once Naoko retires, or stops winning races.

Of course, but something/one else will pop up in place - I can imagine
the country going bonkers over say - archery - and instantly producing a
thousand reasons why it is *natural* that Japanese would dominate the
sport nado nado.

> I realize that if you're not a judo fan, you might be bummed that you can't
> watch your 100-,meter hurdles or skeet shooting or whatever lame sport it is
> that you like to watch. But Japan is after all the home of judo, so it's to
> be expected that it will get the lion's share of the coverage (especially on
> NHK). But for god's sake, show a little love of the sport, or at the very
> least a bit less partidarism.

I looked up "partidarism" in dictionary.com to no avail, but from the
rest of the sentence can guess the context and fully agree regarding
showing a little love for Judo. NHK's coverage is just not cricket.

<snip>


> He really is amazing to watch, though, and he's got a good story, too. He
> was a middling judoka, then his mother died and he decided to win a gold
> medal for her, and transformed into this judo god -- his father sat in the
> crowd holding a picture of his mother in every match up to the olympics,
> then Inoue held a picture of her up on the podium.

Tah for that. I'll pay more attention to the news - usually flick
channels before the sport comes on.

Adriaan Tijsseling

未読、
2003/09/14 21:27:072003/09/14
To:
In article <3f6293a3$0$2944$df06...@news.sexzilla.net>,
The 2-Belo <the2...@removethiswave-net.or.jp> wrote:

> Ernest Schaal and fj.life.in-japan is a baaaaaaaaaaad combination:

> >I am shocked to learn that there was more than one person who came to bat at
> >Yankee games, and more than one person who came to bat at Mariner games.
>
> I was surprised to learn that there were more than four teams in Major League
> Baseball.

It's also amusing to see the coverage of the Japanese players in the
European soccer leagues. They only show action footage involving
aformentioned players, even though most of the time it's just a shot on
the bar or a wide header. Lately, they also do the same with Beckham.
Which just makes it worse, really.

Ernest Schaal

未読、
2003/09/15 1:07:272003/09/15
To:
Adriaan Tijsseling <re...@newsgroup.com> wrote in message news:<reply-D9D1DE....@news.fu-berlin.de>...

> It's also amusing to see the coverage of the Japanese players in the
> European soccer leagues. They only show action footage involving
> aformentioned players, even though most of the time it's just a shot on
> the bar or a wide header. Lately, they also do the same with Beckham.
> Which just makes it worse, really.

Gee whiz. I thought those clips were the whole game. B-)

Michael Cash

未読、
2003/09/15 1:23:022003/09/15
To:
On 14 Sep 2003 22:07:27 -0700, esc...@justice.com (Ernest Schaal)
belched the alphabet and kept on going with:

No, you're confusing it with Major League Baseball. In MLB games, if a
Japanese player ain't involved, it didn't happen.

Rindler Sigurd

未読、
2003/09/15 3:35:562003/09/15
To:
> It's also amusing to see the coverage of the Japanese players in the
> European soccer leagues. They only show action footage involving
> aformentioned players, even though most of the time it's just a shot on
> the bar or a wide header. Lately, they also do the same with Beckham.
> Which just makes it worse, really.


Years ago I saw a marathon on Japanese TV. Two of the leading runners were
from a African countries and far ahead of the Japanese runner who was third.
Believe it or not, I wasn't able to see the winner of the race since the
camera focused on the Japanese runner only. Later on they showed the table
of the first 10 runners...
On the other hand, I am always very unhappy when a Japanese wins a medal.
Then you have to endure the same race (whatever) multiple times over several
days and on every channel!


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Ryan Ginstrom

未読、
2003/09/15 3:49:032003/09/15
To:
"Declan Murphy" <declan...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3F647AAF...@hotmail.com...

> Ryan Ginstrom wrote:
> > I realize that if you're not a judo fan, you might be bummed that you
can't
> > watch your 100-,meter hurdles or skeet shooting or whatever lame sport
it is
> > that you like to watch. But Japan is after all the home of judo, so it's
to
> > be expected that it will get the lion's share of the coverage
(especially on
> > NHK). But for god's sake, show a little love of the sport, or at the
very
> > least a bit less partidarism.
>
> I looked up "partidarism" in dictionary.com to no avail, but from the

Sorry, wrong language.

Partisanship.

--
Regards,
Ryan Ginstrom

Michael Cash

未読、
2003/09/15 4:42:162003/09/15
To:
On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 23:26:55 +0900, Declan Murphy
<declan...@hotmail.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going
with:

>Ryan Ginstrom wrote:


>> "Declan Murphy" <declan...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:3F621060...@hotmail.com...
>
>>>I'm shocked and horrified to read that. Nearly as shocked and horrified
>>>as I was to learn that there are events at the Olympics other than Judo
>>>and the women's marathon.
>>
>> Yeah, I wish they'd drop that lame marathon crap. Well, you can be pretty
>> sure they will once Naoko retires, or stops winning races.
>
>Of course, but something/one else will pop up in place - I can imagine
>the country going bonkers over say - archery - and instantly producing a
>thousand reasons why it is *natural* that Japanese would dominate the
>sport nado nado.

Anyone else remember the synchronized swimming nonsense from a few
years back?


Haluk

未読、
2003/09/15 8:00:232003/09/15
To:
"Rindler Sigurd" <srin...@da2.so-net.ne.jp>, haber iletisinde şunları
yazdı:3f656bdc$1...@news.uncensored-news.com...

> > It's also amusing to see the coverage of the Japanese players in the
> > European soccer leagues. They only show action footage involving
> > aformentioned players, even though most of the time it's just a shot on
> > the bar or a wide header. Lately, they also do the same with Beckham.
> > Which just makes it worse, really.
>
>
> Years ago I saw a marathon on Japanese TV. Two of the leading runners were
> from a African countries and far ahead of the Japanese runner who was
third.
> Believe it or not, I wasn't able to see the winner of the race since the
> camera focused on the Japanese runner only. Later on they showed the table
> of the first 10 runners...
> On the other hand, I am always very unhappy when a Japanese wins a medal.
> Then you have to endure the same race (whatever) multiple times over
several
> days and on every channel!

C'mon guys... Isn't it the way in every country? After all its a national
thing.


Declan Murphy

未読、
2003/09/15 9:27:062003/09/15
To:
Ryan Ginstrom wrote:

> Sorry, wrong language.
>
> Partisanship.

Well that too I guess. Strangely enuff, when I googled "partidarism" I
got many hits - made me wonder.

Declan Murphy

未読、
2003/09/15 9:28:092003/09/15
To:
Michael Cash wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 23:26:55 +0900, Declan Murphy
> <declan...@hotmail.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going
> with:

>>Of course, but something/one else will pop up in place - I can imagine


>>the country going bonkers over say - archery - and instantly producing a
>>thousand reasons why it is *natural* that Japanese would dominate the
>>sport nado nado.
>
> Anyone else remember the synchronized swimming nonsense from a few
> years back?

Nonsense though it was, how could you expect anyone to forget it?

Ryan Ginstrom

未読、
2003/09/15 10:03:282003/09/15
To:
"Haluk" <yokoo...@spam.net> wrote in message
news:bk49ki$p4ai9$1...@ID-201738.news.uni-berlin.de...

> C'mon guys... Isn't it the way in every country? After all its a national
> thing.

Matter of degree is all.

--
Regards,
Ryan Ginstrom

Ernest Schaal

未読、
2003/09/15 11:50:342003/09/15
To:
in article 3F65BE69...@hotmail.com, Declan Murphy at
declan...@hotmail.com wrote on 9/15/03 10:28 PM:

> Michael Cash wrote:
>> On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 23:26:55 +0900, Declan Murphy
>> <declan...@hotmail.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going
>> with:
>
>>> Of course, but something/one else will pop up in place - I can imagine
>>> the country going bonkers over say - archery - and instantly producing a
>>> thousand reasons why it is *natural* that Japanese would dominate the
>>> sport nado nado.
>>
>> Anyone else remember the synchronized swimming nonsense from a few
>> years back?
>
> Nonsense though it was, how could you expect anyone to forget it?

That must have been something I missed. How far back was it? What happened?

Declan Murphy

未読、
2003/09/16 2:38:022003/09/16
To:

Barcelona and Atlanta. What happened? For me it was basically LEGS.

Michael Cash

未読、
2003/09/16 11:22:422003/09/16
To:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 15:38:02 +0900, Declan Murphy

<declan...@hotmail.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going
with:

>Ernest Schaal wrote:
>> in article 3F65BE69...@hotmail.com, Declan Murphy at
>> declan...@hotmail.com wrote on 9/15/03 10:28 PM:
>>
>>>Michael Cash wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 23:26:55 +0900, Declan Murphy
>>>><declan...@hotmail.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going
>>>>with:
>>>
>>>>>Of course, but something/one else will pop up in place - I can imagine
>>>>>the country going bonkers over say - archery - and instantly producing a
>>>>>thousand reasons why it is *natural* that Japanese would dominate the
>>>>>sport nado nado.
>>>>
>>>>Anyone else remember the synchronized swimming nonsense from a few
>>>>years back?
>>>
>>>Nonsense though it was, how could you expect anyone to forget it?
>>
>> That must have been something I missed. How far back was it? What happened?
>
>Barcelona and Atlanta. What happened? For me it was basically LEGS.

And the entire country going apeshit over a retarded sport.

Declan Murphy

未読、
2003/09/16 12:36:032003/09/16
To:

Retarded sport notwithstanding, LEGS aren't necessarily a bad thing to
go apeshit over.

Ernest Schaal

未読、
2003/09/16 15:07:112003/09/16
To:
in article alaemvcct54sm31kc...@4ax.com, Michael Cash at
mike...@sunfield.ne.jp wrote on 9/17/03 12:22 AM:

Actually, it is a fun sport to watch live. We saw it at the Los Angeles
Olympics.

The 2-Belo

未読、
2003/09/16 23:00:262003/09/16
To:
Declan Murphy and fj.life.in-japan is a baaaaaaaaaaad combination:

>Michael Cash wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 15:38:02 +0900, Declan Murphy
>> <declan...@hotmail.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going
>> with:
>>
>>
>>>Ernest Schaal wrote:
>>>
>>>>in article 3F65BE69...@hotmail.com, Declan Murphy at
>>>>declan...@hotmail.com wrote on 9/15/03 10:28 PM:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Michael Cash wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 23:26:55 +0900, Declan Murphy
>>>>>><declan...@hotmail.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going
>>>>>>with:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Of course, but something/one else will pop up in place - I can imagine
>>>>>>>the country going bonkers over say - archery - and instantly producing a
>>>>>>>thousand reasons why it is *natural* that Japanese would dominate the
>>>>>>>sport nado nado.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Anyone else remember the synchronized swimming nonsense from a few
>>>>>>years back?
>>>>>
>>>>>Nonsense though it was, how could you expect anyone to forget it?
>>>>
>>>>That must have been something I missed. How far back was it? What happened?
>>>
>>>Barcelona and Atlanta. What happened? For me it was basically LEGS.
>>
>> And the entire country going apeshit over a retarded sport.
>
>Retarded sport notwithstanding, LEGS aren't necessarily a bad thing to
>go apeshit over.

As long as it's just legs. From the looks of most of the women on the Japan
national team, it's quite obvious that they'd only want to show their legs to
the judges. I mean, WOOF.

Declan Murphy

未読、
2003/09/16 23:41:222003/09/16
To:

I take it you're not a fan of nosepegs?

The 2-Belo

未読、
2003/09/17 21:56:212003/09/17
To:

No. I don't particularly like women with 88 teeth, either.

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