Larry Flynt is a praying man
Kevin Gowen
NATIONAL PRAYER DAY - PRAY FOR THE DEATH OF BILL O'REILLY
HUSLTER Magazine invites you to join us in prayer.
On Tuesday, August 5th at 12:45pm, we have organized a special gathering to
pray to God for Fox News Channel blowhard Bill O'Reilly's death.
The service will be held in Los Angeles at Cornerstone Plaza, 1990 S. Bundy
Drive. Located on the corner of Bundy Drive and LaGrange Ave.
DISCLAIMER: This serious gathering will truly take place, however if
O'Reilly dies, it must be God's will.
For more information, please contact: Sean Carney 323-651-5400 ext. 7361
--
Kevin Gowen
From 1973 to 2002, the warmongering USA sold $200 million in arms to Iraq,
accounting for 1% of Iraqi arms imports for that period. During the same
period, peace-loving UN Security Council members Russia, France, and China
sold $25.145 billion (57%), $5.595 billion (13%), and $5.192 billion (12%)
in arms to Iraq, respectively.
Source: Stockholm International Peace Research Institute
(Figures are trend-indicator values expressed in US dollars at constant
(1990) prices)
Brett Robson
>
>http://www.larryflynt.com/national_prayer_day.html
>
>NATIONAL PRAYER DAY - PRAY FOR THE DEATH OF BILL O'REILLY
>
>HUSLTER Magazine invites you to join us in prayer.
>
That's the problem with freedom of speech. But you want to force your morals on
to other people don't you?
"I want to live in a state that reflects my moral stands and
choices. KGII"
>
>From 1973 to 2002, the warmongering USA sold $200 million in arms to Iraq,
>accounting for 1% of Iraqi arms imports for that period. During the same
>period, peace-loving UN Security Council members Russia, France, and China
>sold $25.145 billion (57%), $5.595 billion (13%), and $5.192 billion (12%)
>in arms to Iraq, respectively.
>Source: Stockholm International Peace Research Institute
>(Figures are trend-indicator values expressed in US dollars at constant
>(1990) prices)
>
URL please.
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ever new. In the words of the prophet Isaiah, 'To the captives, come out, and to
those in darkness, be free."' Bush II exhorting his soldiers on their Crusades.
"light the darkness of the entire world" Kita Ikki
mtfe...@netscape.net
> On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 12:31:42 -0400, Kevin Gowen ...
>>
>>http://www.larryflynt.com/national_prayer_day.html
>>
>>NATIONAL PRAYER DAY - PRAY FOR THE DEATH OF BILL O'REILLY
>>
>>HUSLTER Magazine invites you to join us in prayer.
> That's the problem with freedom of speech. But you want to force your morals on
> to other people don't you?
> "I want to live in a state that reflects my moral stands and
> choices. KGII"
Are you sure that wasn't the Taliban...?
>>From 1973 to 2002, the warmongering USA sold $200 million in arms to Iraq,
>>accounting for 1% of Iraqi arms imports for that period. During the same
>>period, peace-loving UN Security Council members Russia, France, and China
>>sold $25.145 billion (57%), $5.595 billion (13%), and $5.192 billion (12%)
>>in arms to Iraq, respectively.
>>Source: Stockholm International Peace Research Institute
>>(Figures are trend-indicator values expressed in US dollars at constant
>>(1990) prices)
>>
> URL please.
Actually, that sounds about right. Most Iraqi weapons were either French
or of Soviet design. And, of course, they were the ones holding most of
the rights to the oil fields. During the Iran-Iraq conflict, the US
gave (or sold) a large number of trucks to the Iraqis, but this was not TOO
long after the Iranis had effectively kidnapped a large diplomatic contigent,
so we might be forgiven for that little gift.
Mike
Rindler Sigurd
>
>
> That's the problem with freedom of speech. But you want to force your
morals on
> to other people don't you?
>
Who? Kevin???
> "I want to live in a state that reflects my moral stands and
> choices. KGII"
>
Right, but you need to move there, and don't expect that the state adapts to
your desires...
Anyway, was that said by Kevin (KGII?), by you, or by Larry Flint?
Sigi
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Brett Robson
Yes it does sound right, but I'm interested in the breakdown. What did the
French sell? Did the Iraqi have Super Etandarts (sp?) and Exocets during the
Iran/Iraq war? I recall at least one US warship being hit by an air-launched
missile, they are very lucky they didn't cop a Silkworm in the stern.
I guess they got the receipe for Sarin for free.
Declan Murphy
> Monsieur Brett Robson <jet...@deja.com> wrote:
>>On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 12:31:42 -0400, Monsieur Kevin Gowen ...
>>>From 1973 to 2002, the warmongering USA sold $200 million in arms to Iraq,
>>>accounting for 1% of Iraqi arms imports for that period. During the same
>>>period, peace-loving UN Security Council members Russia, France, and China
>>>sold $25.145 billion (57%), $5.595 billion (13%), and $5.192 billion (12%)
>>>in arms to Iraq, respectively.
>>>Source: Stockholm International Peace Research Institute
>>>(Figures are trend-indicator values expressed in US dollars at constant
>>>(1990) prices)
>
>>URL please.
That would be
http://projects.sipri.se/armstrade/Trnd_Ind_IRQ_Imps_73-02.pdf
with the background data at
http://projects.sipri.se/armstrade/atirq_data.html
For some reason Denmark sold more by value, but when you dig around it
turns out to be one (landing) ship. Apart from the Danes and the French,
all weapons sales of a value higher than the US were from communist bloc
and satellites with the exception of Brazil - exports of light armoured
vehicles. All of the US sales (aviation) took place during a 5 year
period during the Reagan admin.
What Kevin didn't mention was that the figures from 1991-2002 are zero
(for all countries) hence neither the French nor Russians were losing
any contracts, though the French and Germans were in a position where
they would lose exchange rate risk free oil import contracts since
Iraq's INOC priced its oil in Euros.
> Actually, that sounds about right. Most Iraqi weapons were either French
> or of Soviet design.
I think it might be more accurate to say that "Most Iraqi weapons were"
of Soviet/Chinese design, since the combined sales of the communist bloc
account for 82.77% of sales according to the SIPRI table. Of the
remainder though, the bulk are French of course. Also interesting is
that the French armaments industry has zero sales to the USA/UK & Australia.
http://projects.sipri.se/armstrade/at_coalition03_data.html
> And, of course, they were the ones holding most of
> the rights to the oil fields.
Why do you claim that Mike? The Soviet Union (and the Russian Federation
have) never even imported oil from Iraq, and the French were customers,
not extractors. Until a few months ago, the rights to Iraqi oil fields
were held by the Iraq National Oil Company (INOC). Prior to
nationalisation, the fields were exploited by the Mosul Oil Company and
Basrah Oil Company - the concession holders being Royal Dutch/Shell,
Anglo-Persian, CFP, Exxon, Mobil, Atlantic Richfield, Gulf Oil
Corporation, Standard Oil of Indiana [Amoco], and Participations and
Explorations Corp. Exactly which of these corporations are registered in
France or Russia or are dominated by French or Russian interests?
> During the Iran-Iraq conflict, the US
> gave (or sold) a large number of trucks to the Iraqis, but this was not TOO
> long after the Iranis had effectively kidnapped a large diplomatic contigent,
> so we might be forgiven for that little gift.
Iranis? Youse blokes don' call 'em Iranians then?
The US may have also given trucks, but according to the documentation
http://projects.sipri.se/armstrade/IRQ_IMPRTS_73-02.pdf
the US sales were helicopters. Perhaps trucks and transport
equipment/machinery is not classed by SIPRI researchers as military -
hence no Japan on their list.
--
"As I write, highly civilized human beings are flying overhead, trying
to kill me. They do not feel any enmity against me as an individual, nor
I against them. They are "only doing their duty", as the saying goes.
Most of them, I have no doubt, are kind-hearted law-abiding men who
would never dream of committing murder in private life. On the other
hand, if one of them succeeds in blowing me to pieces with a well-placed
bomb, he will never sleep any the worse for it. He is serving his
country, which has the power to absolve him from evil" - George Orwell,
England Your England, 1941
Brett Robson
>
>Monsieur mtfe...@netscape.net wrote:
>> Monsieur Brett Robson <jet...@deja.com> wrote:
>>>On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 12:31:42 -0400, Monsieur Kevin Gowen ...
>
>>>>From 1973 to 2002, the warmongering USA sold $200 million in arms to Iraq,
>>>>accounting for 1% of Iraqi arms imports for that period. During the same
>>>>period, peace-loving UN Security Council members Russia, France, and China
>>>>sold $25.145 billion (57%), $5.595 billion (13%), and $5.192 billion (12%)
>>>>in arms to Iraq, respectively.
>>>>Source: Stockholm International Peace Research Institute
>>>>(Figures are trend-indicator values expressed in US dollars at constant
>>>>(1990) prices)
>>
>>>URL please.
>
>That would be
>
>http://projects.sipri.se/armstrade/Trnd_Ind_IRQ_Imps_73-02.pdf
>
>with the background data at
>
>http://projects.sipri.se/armstrade/atirq_data.html
>
>For some reason Denmark sold more by value, but when you dig around it
>turns out to be one (landing) ship. Apart from the Danes and the French,
>all weapons sales of a value higher than the US were from communist bloc
>and satellites with the exception of Brazil - exports of light armoured
>vehicles. All of the US sales (aviation) took place during a 5 year
>period during the Reagan admin.
>
>What Kevin didn't mention was that the figures from 1991-2002 are zero
He also forgets to mention a little war in the area1980-89(?) and that when the
USSR stopped supplying arms to Iraq for the first 18months because of Iraqi
aggression, the US sold them aircraft (amongst other things). Iran had American
weapons including F-14 Tomcats, much of which came via Israel, which were used
to attack neutral merchant vessels.
>(for all countries) hence neither the French nor Russians were losing
>any contracts, though the French and Germans were in a position where
>they would lose exchange rate risk free oil import contracts since
>Iraq's INOC priced its oil in Euros.
>
>> Actually, that sounds about right. Most Iraqi weapons were either French
>> or of Soviet design.
>
>Also interesting is
>that the French armaments industry has zero sales to the USA/UK & Australia.
>
The US wouldn't let us buy some of the clearly superior French weapons.
Michael Cash
<kgowen...@myfastmail.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going
with:
>http://www.larryflynt.com/national_prayer_day.html
>
>NATIONAL PRAYER DAY - PRAY FOR THE DEATH OF BILL O'REILLY
>
>HUSLTER Magazine invites you to join us in prayer.
>
>On Tuesday, August 5th at 12:45pm, we have organized a special gathering to
>pray to God for Fox News Channel blowhard Bill O'Reilly's death.
>
>The service will be held in Los Angeles at Cornerstone Plaza, 1990 S. Bundy
>Drive. Located on the corner of Bundy Drive and LaGrange Ave.
>
>DISCLAIMER: This serious gathering will truly take place, however if
>O'Reilly dies, it must be God's will.
>
>For more information, please contact: Sean Carney 323-651-5400 ext. 7361
Pat Robertson is a praying man too.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/07/15/politics/main563247.shtml
--
Michael Cash
"There was a time, Mr. Cash, when I believed you must be the most useless
thing in the world. But that was before I read a Microsoft help file."
Prof. Ernest T. Bass
Mount Pilot College
Declan Murphy
September 1980 to around August 1988.
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/iraniraq.htm
seems to be an interesting summary.
> USSR stopped supplying arms to Iraq for the first 18months because of Iraqi
> aggression, the US sold them aircraft (amongst other things). Iran had American
> weapons including F-14 Tomcats, much of which came via Israel, which were used
> to attack neutral merchant vessels.
My understanding is that the F-14s (and other weapons systems) were
mostly sold to Iran prior to the 1979 revolution when Iran was still
under the rule of the Shah. - hence the whole arms for hostages
"Iran/Contra" bruhaha when the US supplied much needed electronics and
other components for the F14s (etc) in the hope that Iran would wield
whatever influence it may have had in Lebanon and elsewhere regarding
the release of hostages. I'm not familiar with any Israeli role.
>>Also interesting is
>>that the French armaments industry has zero sales to the USA/UK & Australia.
>
> The US wouldn't let us buy some of the clearly superior French weapons.
The Mirage purchases predate the period given in the quote.
Compatibility issues may be a major reason, but I can't think of any
major defence purchases since the late 80's in which French contractors
have been competing for the tender. Any examples?
Kevin Gowen
> On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 12:31:42 -0400, "Kevin Gowen"
> <kgowen...@myfastmail.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going
> with:
>
>> http://www.larryflynt.com/national_prayer_day.html
>>
>> NATIONAL PRAYER DAY - PRAY FOR THE DEATH OF BILL O'REILLY
>>
>> HUSLTER Magazine invites you to join us in prayer.
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 5th at 12:45pm, we have organized a special
>> gathering to pray to God for Fox News Channel blowhard Bill
>> O'Reilly's death.
>>
>> The service will be held in Los Angeles at Cornerstone Plaza, 1990
>> S. Bundy Drive. Located on the corner of Bundy Drive and LaGrange
>> Ave.
>>
>> DISCLAIMER: This serious gathering will truly take place, however if
>> O'Reilly dies, it must be God's will.
>>
>> For more information, please contact: Sean Carney 323-651-5400 ext.
>> 7361
>
> Pat Robertson is a praying man too.
>
> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/07/15/politics/main563247.shtml
Yeah, but that's his job. What's Flynt's excuse?