first child?
nickay420
who was the first?
Amani
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> if shinji is the third child, rei the second, and asuka the fourth.. then
> who was the first?
Rei is the First Child. Shinji is the Second Child. Asuka is the Third
Child.
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Gabriel
> who was the first?
Rei is the First Child, Asuka the Second and Shinji the Third. Touji
is the Fourth, and Kaoru the Fifth.
Kakarotto
"Amani" <am...@charter.net> wrote in message
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>
> Rei is the First Child. Shinji is the Second Child. Asuka is the Third
> Child.
>
*EEEEENNNH* Wrong, Rei is the first child. Asuka the second and Shinji the
third. Followed by Touji the fourth and Kaoru the fifth.
Michael Wignall
> the fourth.. then who was the first?
Actually don't listen to anyone in this thread at all.
They are all wrong so far.
Rei is the First Children.
Asuka is the Second Children.
Shinji is the Third Children.
Touji is the Fourth Children.
Kaoru is the Fifth Children.
There is no such thing as a "Child" title designating
a pilot in the original Japanese version of Evangelion.
They use the English word "Children" and they use it
on purpose (ie it is not a mistake).
--
Michael Wignall
"Tomorrow's just an excuse away..."
Kakarotto
"Michael Wignall" <wi...@evangelion.com> wrote in message
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I was gonna say that, btu he knows what we mean, and for all you know he\she
could be talking about the Dubbed version(I've never seen it so I don't know
whether they use child or chidren)
Michael Wignall
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> "Michael Wignall" <wi...@evangelion.com> wrote in message
> news:d0q59.11533$Cq.4...@ozemail.com.au...
> > "nickay420" <removeth...@charter.net> wrote in message
> > news:ulbjti6...@corp.supernews.com...
> > > if shinji is the third child, rei the second, and asuka
> > > the fourth.. then who was the first?
>
> I was gonna say that, btu he knows what we mean, and for
> all you know he\she could be talking about the Dubbed
> version(I've never seen it so I don't know whether they use
> child or chidren)
They incorrectly changed it to Child in the dub, hence why
so many people get it wrong. It is written as "Child" in all of
ADVs Eva related material as well.
Richard Liang
Is there an official explanation to this? I had heard that it was
because collectively the Rei clones were considered the "First Children"
and to keep people from catching on they designated them all "children".
Richard
Michael Wignall
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> Michael Wignall wrote:
> >"nickay420" <removeth...@charter.net> wrote in message
> >news:ulbjti6...@corp.supernews.com...
> >>if shinji is the third child, rei the second, and asuka
> >> the fourth.. then who was the first?
> >There is no such thing as a "Child" title designating
> >a pilot in the original Japanese version of Evangelion.
> >They use the English word "Children" and they use it
> >on purpose (ie it is not a mistake).
> >
> Is there an official explanation to this? I had heard
> that it was because collectively the Rei clones were
> considered the "First Children" and to keep people
> from catching on they designated them all "children".
That is the theory, but no there has never been an
"official explanation" given as far as I know. It is
known however that the use of the English term
"Children" was intended, and there was meaning
behind it.
Amani
O_O
*stares at what she typed*
Good Lord, how did I do that? Yeesh, I feel horrible now. I must have been
listening to something /really/ distracting last night. AUGH! I usually know
what I'm talking about and pay attention to what I'm typing! Really! *hides
under a rock*
--Taryn
Sundog1966
voice of rei and a couple of other members) indicate that ist is a
translation issue.
If I remeber what little jap[anese I know there are situations where
there either is no singular form of the verb or no plural form of the
verb.
The same thing applies to tense for verbs (in some cases there is no
past present future tense as we understand it) and as a result Child
and Children become one in the same.
Olivier Hagué
<sundo...@sympatico.com> wrote:
>On the flip side of Death and rebirth: they (the narrators ir the
>voice of rei and a couple of other members) indicate that ist is a
>translation issue.
You mean the _US_ voice-actors? I wouldn't expect them to go against
the translator's decisions, or even to know anything about that. ^^;
>If I remeber what little jap[anese I know there are situations where
>there either is no singular form of the verb or no plural form of the
>verb.
"Situations"? There's no singular or plural forms at all. ^_^;
Michael Wignall
news:r6lglu4djvbog9j34...@4ax.com...
> On the flip side of Death and rebirth: they (the narrators ir the
> voice of rei and a couple of other members) indicate that ist is a
> translation issue.
Amanda Winn Lee stated a number of times in that commentary
that she changed things just because she wanted to. Added whole
lines in because she thought they sounded better. She made Shinji
say Fuck, she makes Misato say Fuck (in EoE at least, or so I've
heard from people who have seen it at cons) she stuffs up Miasto's
explanation about to Shinji about Adam and Lilith (Adam was _not_
born from Lilith). Overall I have a number of issues with the
translation. This one in particular though is more a follow on from
Matt Greenfield's work on the series for ADV.
> If I remeber what little jap[anese I know there are situations
> where there either is no singular form of the verb or no
> plural form of the verb.
Olivier addressed the correctness of this statement in his post. I
just want to point out though that whether the Japanese word
is plural or not is irrelevant. In the original Japanese they didn't
use the Japanese word, they said the English word "Children".
The Japanese Voice Actors were told to say the English word
Children when referring to the pilots. First Children, Second
Children, Third Children, etc... There was no need to "translate"
anything.
Disaster
Uh Rei was 1st, Asuka was 2nd and Toji was 4th.
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> "nickay420" <removeth...@charter.net> wrote:
> > if shinji is the third child, rei the second, and asuka the fourth..
then
> > who was the first?
>
> Rei is the First Child. Shinji is the Second Child. Asuka is the Third
> Child.
Uh no. Rei is the 1st, then Asuka, then Shinji then Toji and then Tabris.
Disaster
> "Kakarotto" <kaka...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> > > Rei is the First Child. Shinji is the Second Child. Asuka is the
Third
> > > Child.
> > >
> >
> > *EEEEENNNH* Wrong, Rei is the first child. Asuka the second and Shinji
the
> > third. Followed by Touji the fourth and Kaoru the fifth.
>
> O_O
>
> *stares at what she typed*
>
> Good Lord, how did I do that? Yeesh, I feel horrible now. I must have
been
> listening to something /really/ distracting last night. AUGH! I usually
know
> what I'm talking about and pay attention to what I'm typing! Really!
*hides
> under a rock*
*Chuckle*
*Puts sign up over rock pointing down with the Phrase "Coffee addict" on
it."
Disaster
> "nickay420" <removeth...@charter.net> wrote:
> > if shinji is the third child, rei the second, and asuka
> > the fourth.. then who was the first?
>
> Actually don't listen to anyone in this thread at all.
> They are all wrong so far.
>
> Rei is the First Children.
> Asuka is the Second Children.
> Shinji is the Third Children.
> Touji is the Fourth Children.
> Kaoru is the Fifth Children.
>
> There is no such thing as a "Child" title designating
> a pilot in the original Japanese version of Evangelion.
> They use the English word "Children" and they use it
> on purpose (ie it is not a mistake).
LMAO!
That is so not the case with the context being used here Michael
Disaster
Amani
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> "Amani" <am...@charter.net> wrote:
> > "Kakarotto" <kaka...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> > > > Rei is the First Child. Shinji is the Second Child. Asuka is the
> Third
> > > > Child.
> > > >
> > >
> > > *EEEEENNNH* Wrong, Rei is the first child. Asuka the second and Shinji
> the
> > > third. Followed by Touji the fourth and Kaoru the fifth.
> >
> > O_O
> >
> > *stares at what she typed*
> >
> > Good Lord, how did I do that? Yeesh, I feel horrible now. I must have
> been
> > listening to something /really/ distracting last night. AUGH! I usually
> know
> > what I'm talking about and pay attention to what I'm typing! Really!
> *hides
> > under a rock*
>
> *Chuckle*
>
> *Puts sign up over rock pointing down with the Phrase "Coffee addict" on
> it."
And I don't even LIKE coffee. o_o
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Watchman
>
> *Mouth kept closed*
> --
A Miracle!
--
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Disaster
*Mouth opens*
*Tongue extends*
*Spittle flies in your general direction.*