The Japanese police are known for being less than fair, but attempting
to run away then splapping an officer can't be a rational way of
reacting to a situation.
Mukade
"I told him I was really sorry and if he moved his
van I would get out of the way," Kalia recalled in
an interview.
How?
"They could not speak English, I could not speak
Japanese, we weren't getting anywhere and I
started to get annoyed,"
She kept this guy waiting to get into his own
super expensive parking space for who knows how
long, and SHE gets annoyed with them during an
interview?
"After a heated exchange, Kalia said she jumped
into her car to escape, but the policeman
forcefully grabbed her arm "so I slapped him two
times across the face."
Anybody else thinking Rich Bitch?
Somebody should have slapped her across the face a
couple times a LONG time ago. Might have saved her
a week in the slammer.
--
Bryan
gaijenetic engineering -
noun: the technology of preparing recombinant gaijiNA
in vitro by cutting up gaijiNA molecules and splicing
together fragments from more than one organism
Bryan Parker schrieb:
>
> muk...@gaijin.co.jp (mukade) said:
>
> >I apologise for an on-topic posting.
> >
> >http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20030611/od_afp/japan_foreigner_crime_030611143537
> >
> >The Japanese police are known for being less than fair, but attempting
> >to run away then splapping an officer can't be a rational way of
> >reacting to a situation.
>
> "I told him I was really sorry and if he moved his
> van I would get out of the way," Kalia recalled in
> an interview.
>
> How?
>
> "They could not speak English, I could not speak
> Japanese, we weren't getting anywhere and I
> started to get annoyed,"
>
> She kept this guy waiting to get into his own
> super expensive parking space for who knows how
> long, and SHE gets annoyed with them during an
> interview?
>
> "After a heated exchange, Kalia said she jumped
> into her car to escape, but the policeman
> forcefully grabbed her arm "so I slapped him two
> times across the face."
>
> Anybody else thinking Rich Bitch?
Silly rich bitch
Good luck for her, that it happened in Japan.
I guess here in Germany the cop would have used at least his
nightstick and she would be sentenced because of an attack
against an officer on duty.
What would have happend to her, if she would have slapped an officer
in the US or Austria?
Silvio
------------------------------------------------
Sometmes I feel the strong urge to march east...
> "I told him I was really sorry and if he moved his
> van I would get out of the way," Kalia recalled in
> an interview.
>
> How?
Enunciating properly, speaking very LOUDLY and slowly, or perhaps
charades? Yunno, mime driving and fellatio or sumthin.
> "They could not speak English, I could not speak
> Japanese, we weren't getting anywhere and I
> started to get annoyed,"
Yet she didn't flip out and kill him. Admirable restraint.
> She kept this guy waiting to get into his own
> super expensive parking space for who knows how
> long, and SHE gets annoyed with them during an
> interview?
A new term for the dictionary? Define "to kalia"
> "After a heated exchange, Kalia said she jumped
> into her car to escape, but the policeman
> forcefully grabbed her arm "so I slapped him two
> times across the face."
>
> Anybody else thinking Rich Bitch?
From New Zealand?
> Somebody should have slapped her across the face a
> couple times a LONG time ago. Might have saved her
> a week in the slammer.
How do these people get into the country?
--
"All FDR undid was the value of the dollar"
Kevin Gowen (really)
>What would have happend to her, if she would have slapped an officer
>in the US or Austria?
I don't know. But here's what happened to a Hungarian Rich Bitch in
Sepponia:
http://www.ucsb.dailynexus.com/news/2003/4881.html
--
Michael Cash
"I am Elmer J. Fudd, millionaire. I own a mansion and a yacht."
Elmer J. Fudd
Millionaire
>How do these people get into the country?
Parking Holiday visa
Michael Cash schrieb:
>
> On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:24:07 +0200, Silvio Franke
> <silvio...@unibw-muenchen.de> belched the alphabet and kept on
> going with:
>
> >What would have happend to her, if she would have slapped an officer
> >in the US or Austria?
>
> I don't know. But here's what happened to a Hungarian Rich Bitch in
> Sepponia:
> http://www.ucsb.dailynexus.com/news/2003/4881.html
At least this Hungarian Rich Bitch was drunk.
Silvio
-------------------------------------------------
Sometimes I feel the strong urge to march east...
Maybe. Not usually issued to married people though, unless it has
changed. Can't imagine a gaigin dental nurse in this country, but I
often leave Tokyo thinking it also isn't really in this country.
>On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 19:26:31 +0900, Declan Murphy
><declan...@hotmail.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going
>with:
>
>
>>How do these people get into the country?
>
>Parking Holiday visa
Fuckin' beeyewdiful!
>Michael Cash wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 19:26:31 +0900, Declan Murphy
>> <declan...@hotmail.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going
>> with:
>>
>>>How do these people get into the country?
>>
>> Parking Holiday visa
>
>Maybe. Not usually issued to married people though, unless it has
>changed. Can't imagine a gaigin dental nurse in this country, but I
>often leave Tokyo thinking it also isn't really in this country.
Rub the crust off your eyes and read it again.
>Michael Cash <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> said:
>
>>On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 19:26:31 +0900, Declan Murphy
>><declan...@hotmail.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going
>>with:
>>
>>
>>>How do these people get into the country?
>>
>>Parking Holiday visa
>
>Fuckin' beeyewdiful!
See there, Declan? Even the noted re-tard Bryan Parker got it.
>
>
>Michael Cash schrieb:
>>
>> On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:24:07 +0200, Silvio Franke
>> <silvio...@unibw-muenchen.de> belched the alphabet and kept on
>> going with:
>>
>> >What would have happend to her, if she would have slapped an officer
>> >in the US or Austria?
>>
>> I don't know. But here's what happened to a Hungarian Rich Bitch in
>> Sepponia:
>> http://www.ucsb.dailynexus.com/news/2003/4881.html
>
>At least this Hungarian Rich Bitch was drunk.
Give the girl a break; not everyone can be Irish or Austr(al)ian.
In Japan, it could be considered as a "koumu shikkou bougai"
(Widerstand
gegen Vollstreckungsbeamte) as per art.95 of the Japanese penal law.
<http://www.shugiin.go.jp/itdb_housei.nsf/html/houritsu/13219950512091.htm>
Keihou 95 jou:
koumuin ga shokumu wo shikkou suluni atali, koleni taishite boukou
matawa kyouhaku wo kuwaeta monowa, sannen ika no choueki matawa
kinko ni shosulu.
(Wer einem Amtsträger der zur Vollstreckung von Verfügungen beruft
ist, bei der Vornahme einer solchen Diensthandlung mit Gewalt oder
durch Drohung Widerstand leistet, wird mit Zwangsarbeit oder
Freiheitsstrafe bis zu drei Jahren bestraft)
Slapping a policeman and resisting arrest could thus have landed
her in jail for up to three years.
Yahoo News notes that "Hundreds of foreigners have been arrested here
for misdemeanours to which authorities in other countries would likely
turn a blind eye." Hellooo? I'd be interested to hear of an OECD
country where one could get away scot-free after physically abusing
a police officer...
Why do I get the impression that that bimbo haunting Aoyama, whose
husband had to "pay off" [sic] the man in whose space she parked,
somehow deluded herself into thinking that japanese laws and customs
apply only to the asian vulgum pecus riding the trains, and not to
the "elite" BMW convertible- driving (expat?) gaijins like her...
>On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:53:18 +0900, Bryan Parker
><puntspe...@yahoo.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going
>with:
>
>>Michael Cash <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> said:
>>
>>>On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 19:26:31 +0900, Declan Murphy
>>><declan...@hotmail.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going
>>>with:
>>>
>>>
>>>>How do these people get into the country?
>>>
>>>Parking Holiday visa
>>
>>Fuckin' beeyewdiful!
>
>See there, Declan? Even the noted re-tard Bryan Parker got it.
Thank you for contributing to my campaign to be
the most quoted "re-tard" on usenet (or whatever
the fuck this is.)
> In Japan, it could be considered as a "koumu shikkou bougai"
No, you are wrong as usual. She has just slapped the cop, was not
obstructing any of his police duty. This kind of case is a typical
false charge caused by arrogant and outrageous Tokyo kind police.
However, in Japan that has the less fair police as someone says, and I
agree with it, police unjustly distort and insist the act of slap as
"obstruction".
In this case, the cop was illegally interfering with her and he was
illegally grabbing her arm before she slapped the cop. The cops and
the owner of the honorary white Tokyoite's super high-class parking
lot had no legal right to interfere with her after she apologized
about her occupation of his super high-class honorary white's parking
lot, but they illegally obstructed her to move. So the cop who had
grabbed her arm, and the honorary white Tokyoite who illegally
obstructed her to move from there are exactly the violation.
Nevertheless, she shouldn't have slapped the cop. She should be
accused as a simple outrage against police but since police had
grabbed her arm before she slapped him, it shouldn't be accused. The
worst one is the honorary white Tokyoite. He should be accused as
illegal call to police. Actually occupying someone's parking lot
without any permission is not any violation. It's just a private
trouble and he had no right to call police. So she can accuse him as
defamation of character. Also the Tokyoite should be accused as
obstruction of her traffic.
> She kept this guy waiting to get into his own
> super expensive parking space for who knows how
> long, and SHE gets annoyed with them during an
> interview?
She first apologized to him, I think. Anyway, he should have kept his
super expensive parking lot with an enclosure and locked it if he
wanted no one to occupy it. Leaving it with a condition that anyone
can occupy is his fault.
>Yahoo News notes that "Hundreds of foreigners have been arrested here
>for misdemeanours to which authorities in other countries would likely
>turn a blind eye." Hellooo? I'd be interested to hear of an OECD
>country where one could get away scot-free after physically abusing
>a police officer...
I don't know what an OECD country is, but if Sepponia is one, then you
may begin your list with it. Doesn't happen all the time, true, but
there are times when people aren't punished for being physically
abusive to police officers.
> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20030611/od_afp/japan_foreigner_crime_030611143537
>
> The Japanese police are known for being less than fair, but attempting
> to run away then splapping an officer can't be a rational way of
> reacting to a situation.
>
The use of the pronoun 'she' should have been your first clue.
John W.
>Bryan Parker <puntspe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3f4revcrpmrnhlb56...@4ax.com>...
>
>> She kept this guy waiting to get into his own
>> super expensive parking space for who knows how
>> long, and SHE gets annoyed with them during an
>> interview?
>
>She first apologized to him, I think.
Ed told me he was sorry for fucking my dog too.
That didn't make my dog's asshole feel any better.
>Anyway, he should have kept his
>super expensive parking lot with an enclosure and locked it if he
>wanted no one to occupy it. Leaving it with a condition that anyone
>can occupy is his fault.
Ok, thanks,
You think that's bad? The vet just told me that I have worms.
> What would have happend to her, if she would have slapped an officer
> in the US or Austria?
I used to know a Sepponian guy who hit a cop in Seattle. He didn't
slap him, he accidentally hit him when the cop grabbed his arm and he
tried to shake off the cop's hand grabbing his arm. The guy was big
like 6'5" tall so probably the cop felt like he was violated or
something. I don't know how long he had been put in custody, but he
said he had got one year probation after that.
Gee, have you gotten a law degree, or did you dream about this one?
If you slap a policeman, you certainly interfere with his duties. That
counts same as handcuffing the policeman to a lamp post or punching him in
the head until he is unconscious.
After getting slapped, his "duty" is probably to subdue and arrest the
slapper, no?
This kind of case is a typical
> false charge caused by arrogant and outrageous Tokyo kind police.
Police often use excessive force, but this has less to do with Tokyo.
> In this case, the cop was illegally interfering with her and he was
> illegally grabbing her arm before she slapped the cop.
According to the newspaper, she tried to get away. Everybody with a bit of
common sense can assure you that the police has the legal power to grab you
when you try to get away during questioning. Tell me one single country
where you are right and the police is wrong in a similar case.
The cops and
> the owner of the honorary white Tokyoite's super high-class parking
> lot had no legal right to interfere with her after she apologized
> about her occupation of his super high-class honorary white's parking
> lot, but they illegally obstructed her to move. So the cop who had
> grabbed her arm, and the honorary white Tokyoite who illegally
> obstructed her to move from there are exactly the violation.
Man, you really need to see a doctor since this obsession with your
hate-love for the Tokyo folks is getting out of hand.
BTW, according to the newspaper, the "owner of this honorary white..." did
not speak English... so it can be assumed that he is a Japanese. Or are you
using the South African apartheid term for Japanese businessmen when blacks
and colored people were at the same level as dogs???
And where do you get the wisdom that this guy (or anybody else) has no right
to call the police? Anybody can, as long it doesn't constitute harrassment.
If you bump into my car, admit your mistake and offer cash, I can still call
the police since this gives me more leverage in a legal dispute with you or
your
insurance afterward...
Whether police involvment helps or has it's dawback is another story.
> Nevertheless, she shouldn't have slapped the cop. She should be
> accused as a simple outrage against police but since police had
> grabbed her arm before she slapped him, it shouldn't be accused. The
> worst one is the honorary white Tokyoite. He should be accused as
> illegal call to police. Actually occupying someone's parking lot
> without any permission is not any violation. It's just a private
> trouble and he had no right to call police. So she can accuse him as
> defamation of character. Also the Tokyoite should be accused as
> obstruction of her traffic.
You sound like an American lawyer who would jump on any money-generating
opportunity and even sue the lamp post and the parking lot pillar if there
is a way to win...
Sigi
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Slapping a man is a kind of women's "duty", especially when they are
grabbed by a strange man like the cop. Grabbing a woman's arm is quite
an offensive act and also it's sexual harassment, I think. If you grab
some random young woman's arm on a street, I bet she will slap you.
The cop should have been aware that women always get very scared when
their arms got grabbed by a stranger. The cop in this case is very
immature. It is this immature cop's fault that he tacitly gave her a
sort of threatening feeling.
> This kind of case is a typical
> > false charge caused by arrogant and outrageous Tokyo kind police.
>
>
> Police often use excessive force, but this has less to do with Tokyo.
Tokyo police tend to do this kind of act more than other provincial
polices.
Actually, in provincial regions, no one would be excited about such
trifling parking lot things. Probably there are some trouble in
downtown areas of provincial cities but they won't be such serious
like this case in Tokyo.
> > In this case, the cop was illegally interfering with her and he was
> > illegally grabbing her arm before she slapped the cop.
>
>
> According to the newspaper, she tried to get away. Everybody with a bit of
> common sense can assure you that the police has the legal power to grab
you
> when you try to get away during questioning. Tell me one single country
> where you are right and the police is wrong in a similar case.
Hey you are missing one important point. The cop only had right to ask
her to answer his questioning VOLUNTARILY.
If the place was a public road and she was illegally parking, the cop
had an official right to question her, and she had an obligation to
answer it. Whereas, the place is a private property, someone else's
parking lot, so the cop didn't have any right to interfere with her
trying to leave the place. If the private property was a house or an
office that is completely enclosed by walls or something, she would
have been accused as trespass, but in this country, such a place like
a parking lot which is easy to get in by anyone, and only
distinguished by white painted lines on ground is not considered as a
subject of trespass. As I told before, occupying someone's parking lot
is a private trouble with the owner.
>
> The cops and
> > the owner of the honorary white Tokyoite's super high-class parking
> > lot had no legal right to interfere with her after she apologized
> > about her occupation of his super high-class honorary white's parking
> > lot, but they illegally obstructed her to move. So the cop who had
> > grabbed her arm, and the honorary white Tokyoite who illegally
> > obstructed her to move from there are exactly the violation.
>
>
> Man, you really need to see a doctor since this obsession with your
> hate-love for the Tokyo folks is getting out of hand.
> BTW, according to the newspaper, the "owner of this honorary white..." did
> not speak English... so it can be assumed that he is a Japanese. Or are
you
Of course I am assuming the honorary white is a Japanese. An honorary
white is always Japanese because the Chinese are not honorary whites
and whites are real whites. I'm just using the term "honorary white's
parking lot" for an irony, so never mind it. And most of those
honorary whites Tokyoites in such "upper-class" region in Tokyo don't
speak any English. But they are the typical pseudo westerners carrying
such French brand goods like Luis Vuitton, Chanel things. And they
live in a western life style so I'm ironically calling them so.
> using the South African apartheid term for Japanese businessmen when
blacks
> and colored people were at the same level as dogs???
Yes, I'm ironically using the term for those Tokyo businessmen type or
"upper-class" type Tokyoites who are proud of being treated as
honorary whites in South African Apartheid.
> And where do you get the wisdom that this guy (or anybody else) has no
right
> to call the police? Anybody can, as long it doesn't constitute
harrassment.
Hey who has such a right of calling police about such a private issue?
Does a man have a right to call police if he finds his wife sleeping
with other man? Actually in this case, the owner of the parking lot is
violating the criminal law by placing his van in her way and then
blocking her not to leave. He has no right to confine her.
Calling police without realizing any violation is a false accusation
and a calumny. And blocking her way is a Taiho Kankin Zai(illegal
arrest and confinement) in this country. The honorary white Tokyoite
had no right to forcibly block up her way.
I think he should be sentenced at least a year by the charge of
illegal arrest and confinement toward the woman.
If someone posts this case to the TV program "Gyouretsu No Dekiru
Houritsu Soudansho", I think those attorneys there would claim as same
as I do.
> If you bump into my car, admit your mistake and offer cash, I can still
call
> the police since this gives me more leverage in a legal dispute with you
or
> your
> insurance afterward...
> Whether police involvment helps or has it's dawback is another story.
>
>
>
>
> > Nevertheless, she shouldn't have slapped the cop. She should be
> > accused as a simple outrage against police but since police had
> > grabbed her arm before she slapped him, it shouldn't be accused. The
> > worst one is the honorary white Tokyoite. He should be accused as
> > illegal call to police. Actually occupying someone's parking lot
> > without any permission is not any violation. It's just a private
> > trouble and he had no right to call police. So she can accuse him as
> > defamation of character. Also the Tokyoite should be accused as
> > obstruction of her traffic.
>
>
>
I realize that logic isn't your first language, but Jeezus! can't you
ever write something that comes close to making sense?
You think... but does it hold water? Is there anybody who can verify that
Kaz is correct on this one? Every cop, except your neighborhood omawarisan,
is a "strange" man. There must have been a reason for him to "grab" her arm.
The newspaper only reported that she tried to drive away (although her path
was blocked according to your information).
If you or I grab a woman's arm (other than rescuing her from running into a
truck), it's a kind of harrassment. The police more legal power if things
are justified. Where are independent witnesses?
If you grab
> some random young woman's arm on a street, I bet she will slap you.
> The cop should have been aware that women always get very scared when
> their arms got grabbed by a stranger. The cop in this case is very
> immature. It is this immature cop's fault that he tacitly gave her a
> sort of threatening feeling.
Maybe I'd get a slap, but it's rare that Tokyo's women slap policemen. I
don't expect any policeman wearing white velvet gloves and talk to people
like monks in such situations.
> > This kind of case is a typical
> > > false charge caused by arrogant and outrageous Tokyo kind police.
> >
> >
>
> > > In this case, the cop was illegally interfering with her and he was
> > > illegally grabbing her arm before she slapped the cop.
> >
> >
Right, she tried to go away, he "grabbed", and she slapped....
> Hey you are missing one important point. The cop only had right to ask
> her to answer his questioning VOLUNTARILY.
Yes, but I have never heard a policeman us this keyword.
> If the place was a public road and she was illegally parking, the cop
> had an official right to question her, and she had an obligation to
> answer it. Whereas, the place is a private property, someone else's
> parking lot, so the cop didn't have any right to interfere with her
> trying to leave the place.
If she had refused to answer, he would have her invieted to follow him to
the police box.
If the private property was a house or an
> office that is completely enclosed by walls or something, she would
> have been accused as trespass, but in this country, such a place like
> a parking lot which is easy to get in by anyone, and only
> distinguished by white painted lines on ground is not considered as a
> subject of trespass. As I told before, occupying someone's parking lot
> is a private trouble with the owner.
Yes, I agree. If you park your car in my parking lot, I still have the right
to call the police to have your car removed, and they have the right to
sanction the towing of your vehicle.
>
> >
> > The cops and
> > > the owner of the honorary white Tokyoite's super high-class parking
> > > lot had no legal right to interfere with her after she apologized
> > > about her occupation of his super high-class honorary white's parking
> > > lot, but they illegally obstructed her to move.
Yes, he was wrong on this one.
But what if the guy arrived at his lot one hours before her? I'd park my car
just behind hers to make my point, and in the meantime I could call the
police for assistance. Actually, I wouldn't make such a fuss... unless it is
a notorious free-parker who has done it several times.
> Hey who has such a right of calling police about such a private issue?
> Does a man have a right to call police if he finds his wife sleeping
> with other man?
Not in this case, but if some students opposite my house hold very noisy
beer parties at 3 am with open windows and heavy metal music, I do call the
police. This is much more effective than going over there and making
additional noise. And on the next day I report it to the landlord of the
house. It always worked beautifully...:-)
> Calling police without realizing any violation is a false accusation
> and a calumny. And blocking her way is a Taiho Kankin Zai(illegal
> arrest and confinement) in this country. The honorary white Tokyoite
> had no right to forcibly block up her way.
>
Yes, I believe so too (if the reports on this case are true).
BTW, is there anything like a "citizen arest".
If I catch somebody breaking a public phone, spraying graffito onto my
garage wall, etc., can I grab the gentleman, hold (confine) him, until the
police arrives? Or do I have the right to walk him to the next koban (maybe
not on his ears)?
> I think he should be sentenced at least a year by the charge of
> illegal arrest and confinement toward the woman.
Wow, that's very severe considering that killing your kid could get you as
littel as 4 years!
And how do we punish the police grabber? Half a year plus 20 slaps across
the face a la Singaporean style...
> Slapping a man is a kind of women's "duty"
You've obviously been married at some point in your life.
, especially when they are
> grabbed by a strange man like the cop. Grabbing a woman's arm is quite
> an offensive act and also it's sexual harassment
Sexual harassment? Since when has a woman's arm been considered a sexual
appendage? Oh, perhaps you've been married to somebody from San Francisco.
Fisting might be considered sex in California, but this is mostly the fault
of the U.S. navy's penchant for establishing bases in that puritannical
state.
, I think. If you grab
> some random young woman's arm on a street, I bet she will slap you.
She'd better not slap me in the mouth. I'd call that sexual harrasment.
Well, I used to before I got married.
> The cop should have been aware that women always get very scared when
> their arms got grabbed by a stranger.
And cops don't want to scare strangers, do they?
The cop in this case is very
> immature. It is this immature cop's fault that he tacitly gave her a
> sort of threatening feeling.
And cops don't want to seem threatening, do they? That Barney Fife image
will be, like, you know, totally blown and stuff.
> > This kind of case is a typical
> > > false charge caused by arrogant and outrageous Tokyo kind police.
False charge? The bitch was parked in a spot that wasn't hers. She slapped a
guy (he's Japanese so I guess we can't work the "sexual harrasment" charge
into the picture without some rather undignified chuckling from the bench)
and that shit don't go.
> > Police often use excessive force, but this has less to do with Tokyo.
Well no. Tokyo is Asia's answer to Mayberry.
Something everyone seems to have missed. How did this become a news story? Did
she bring it too the attention of the media?
---
"he [John Ashcroft] deliberately left Jesus out of office prayers to avoid
offending non-Christians." - Ben Shapiro 27/2/2003
>
Thank God you don't have a heart; no worry about getting heartworms.
>
>"Bryan Parker" <puntspe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:k3psevsgn7ueejpkb...@4ax.com...
>> k...@ivebeenframed.com (Kaz) said:
>>
>> >Bryan Parker <puntspe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:<3f4revcrpmrnhlb56...@4ax.com>...
>> >
>> >> She kept this guy waiting to get into his own
>> >> super expensive parking space for who knows how
>> >> long, and SHE gets annoyed with them during an
>> >> interview?
>> >
>> >She first apologized to him, I think.
>>
>> Ed told me he was sorry for fucking my dog too.
>> That didn't make my dog's asshole feel any better.
>
>You think that's bad? The vet just told me that I have worms.
They'll go away if you apologize to 'em, I think.
> Something everyone seems to have missed. How did this become a news story?
Did
> she bring it too the attention of the media?
It looks like it, doesn't it. It was in the Japan Times today, too. I wonder
how much sympathy she will get from the readers on the letters page. ;-)
--
Dave Fossett
Saitama, JAPAN
>"Ed" <gwb...@whitehouse.gov> said:
>
>>
>>"Bryan Parker" <puntspe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:k3psevsgn7ueejpkb...@4ax.com...
>>> k...@ivebeenframed.com (Kaz) said:
>>>
>>> >Bryan Parker <puntspe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:<3f4revcrpmrnhlb56...@4ax.com>...
>>> >
>>> >> She kept this guy waiting to get into his own
>>> >> super expensive parking space for who knows how
>>> >> long, and SHE gets annoyed with them during an
>>> >> interview?
>>> >
>>> >She first apologized to him, I think.
>>>
>>> Ed told me he was sorry for fucking my dog too.
>>> That didn't make my dog's asshole feel any better.
>>
>>You think that's bad? The vet just told me that I have womens.
>
>They'll go away if you apologize to 'em, I think.
Nah, that just makes them think you're sensitive and then you'll
*never* get rid of them.
So what? Are you believing un-westernized Asians are deformed people,
then not eligible to marry or something?
> , especially when they are
> > grabbed by a strange man like the cop. Grabbing a woman's arm is quite
> > an offensive act and also it's sexual harassment
>
> Sexual harassment? Since when has a woman's arm been considered a sexual
> appendage?
There is a highschool teacher who was accused as sexual harassment
because he held his female student's hand in Japan.
> Oh, perhaps you've been married to somebody from San Francisco.
> Fisting might be considered sex in California, but this is mostly the fault
> of the U.S. navy's penchant for establishing bases in that puritannical
> state.
>
> , I think. If you grab
> > some random young woman's arm on a street, I bet she will slap you.
>
> She'd better not slap me in the mouth. I'd call that sexual harrasment.
>
> Well, I used to before I got married.
>
> > The cop should have been aware that women always get very scared when
> > their arms got grabbed by a stranger.
>
> And cops don't want to scare strangers, do they?
Many cops are stupid and they scare people.
> The cop in this case is very
> > immature. It is this immature cop's fault that he tacitly gave her a
> > sort of threatening feeling.
>
> And cops don't want to seem threatening, do they? That Barney Fife image
> will be, like, you know, totally blown and stuff.
>
> > > This kind of case is a typical
> > > > false charge caused by arrogant and outrageous Tokyo kind police.
>
> False charge? The bitch was parked in a spot that wasn't hers. She slapped a
> guy (he's Japanese so I guess we can't work the "sexual harrasment" charge
> into the picture without some rather undignified chuckling from the bench)
> and that shit don't go.
I don't know what you are talking about.
Of course it won't make any sense to you. Because a woman who slapped
a cop of the Labor Party would have been executed without any trial.
> > If the place was a public road and she was illegally parking, the cop
> > had an official right to question her, and she had an obligation to
> > answer it. Whereas, the place is a private property, someone else's
> > parking lot, so the cop didn't have any right to interfere with her
> > trying to leave the place.
>
>
> If she had refused to answer, he would have her invieted to follow him to
> the police box.
She always has a right to refuse to answer, so the cop can't do that,
I think.
> If the private property was a house or an
> > office that is completely enclosed by walls or something, she would
> > have been accused as trespass, but in this country, such a place like
> > a parking lot which is easy to get in by anyone, and only
> > distinguished by white painted lines on ground is not considered as a
> > subject of trespass. As I told before, occupying someone's parking lot
> > is a private trouble with the owner.
>
>
> Yes, I agree. If you park your car in my parking lot, I still have the right
> to call the police to have your car removed, and they have the right to
> sanction the towing of your vehicle.
Actually although you call police, they won't tow it away. They won't
do such a civilian business. You have to call a civilian towing guy to
tow it away. That means you have to pay the bill of towing by
yourself. But surely when you find the owner of the car, you have a
right to request him to pay the money you had paid already. Also I
think you have a right to ask him to pay for some charges for his
occupying your parking space.
> > > The cops and
> > > > the owner of the honorary white Tokyoite's super high-class parking
> > > > lot had no legal right to interfere with her after she apologized
> > > > about her occupation of his super high-class honorary white's parking
> > > > lot, but they illegally obstructed her to move.
>
>
> Yes, he was wrong on this one.
> But what if the guy arrived at his lot one hours before her? I'd park my car
> just behind hers to make my point, and in the meantime I could call the
> police for assistance. Actually, I wouldn't make such a fuss... unless it is
> a notorious free-parker who has done it several times.
I think police usually don't come if it's such a parking lot trouble,
even though you call it. And they usually inform you to put a piece of
notice written like "Hey moron, don't park here, here is mine" between
the windshield and the wiper. When I called police several years ago,
they said so and they never come. Also they informed me that never
scratch, kick or damage the car because it's going to be the real
crime.
>
> > Hey who has such a right of calling police about such a private issue?
> > Does a man have a right to call police if he finds his wife sleeping
> > with other man?
>
>
> Not in this case, but if some students opposite my house hold very noisy
> beer parties at 3 am with open windows and heavy metal music, I do call the
> police. This is much more effective than going over there and making
> additional noise. And on the next day I report it to the landlord of the
> house. It always worked beautifully...:-)
I think making big noise in midnight would violate some law, and I
think that kind of thing is different from this parking lot case.
> > Calling police without realizing any violation is a false accusation
> > and a calumny. And blocking her way is a Taiho Kankin Zai(illegal
> > arrest and confinement) in this country. The honorary white Tokyoite
> > had no right to forcibly block up her way.
> >
>
>
> Yes, I believe so too (if the reports on this case are true).
> BTW, is there anything like a "citizen arest".
> If I catch somebody breaking a public phone, spraying graffito onto my
> garage wall, etc., can I grab the gentleman, hold (confine) him, until the
> police arrives?
Yes, surely you can arrest him becuase spraying graffiti is an obvious
violation "Kibutsu Kison Zai(damage to property)". In Japan the
"citizen arrest" is authorized so you can confine him but you have to
call an authority(usually police) as soon as possible then hand him
over to them.
> Or do I have the right to walk him to the next koban (maybe
> not on his ears)?
Yes, you have. Spraying graffiti is a real crime so I think you can.
But for a slight violation like a traffic offence, you should not do,
I think.
>
> > I think he should be sentenced at least a year by the charge of
> > illegal arrest and confinement toward the woman.
>
>
> Wow, that's very severe considering that killing your kid could get you as
> littel as 4 years!
> And how do we punish the police grabber? Half a year plus 20 slaps across
> the face a la Singaporean style...
But in most cases in Japan, such kind of suspects are actually not
imprisoned, and they usually(always) get suspended sentences. But
those who killed kids would be actually imprisoned.
> If the place was a public road and she was illegally parking, the cop
Excuse me, I missed that you'd been saying "public road" on the other
comment. If it's a public road, then "Yes". You can call police and
maybe ask them to tow it away. But I think what they do mostly is just
putting a yellow sticker warning "illegal parking" to the windshield.
> > Hey you are missing one important point. The cop only had right to ask
> > her to answer his questioning VOLUNTARILY.
>
>
> Yes, but I have never heard a policeman us this keyword.
It's a good point, and that is one of our police's less fair thing.
Japanese police usually don't declare that kind of things
obligatorily. And it's often confusing since they always tend to make
it vague whether it's voluntary or not.
> Wow, that's very severe considering that killing your kid could get you as
> littel as 4 years!
> And how do we punish the police grabber? Half a year plus 20 slaps across
> the face a la Singaporean style...
In addition to my other comment, the charge of Taiho Kankin
Zai(illegal arrest and confinement) is not like illegal parking things
of minor traffic offence that only violate such Road Traffic Act..
It's a serious charge of
the criminal code and it's actually a kind of felony, so I think there
is no fine has been set for this kind of crime and only detention are
set for the penal regulation of this kind of crime.
The important point of this NZ woman's case is that she wasn't
violating any clause in the Road Traffic Act, neither any clause in
the criminal code. Her occupying of someone else's parking space is
merely a civil affair, so the cop never had any right to interfere
with her. Japanese police has no right to cut into any civil case. But
the cop had violated this very fundamental rule of "No intervention in
any civil case", and I guess his violation would be serious issue in
Japan.
Excuse me again, I was cinfused. It was me who said the above. So I
take back this comment.
I read it as parking the first time.
Seems Bryan and I have different ideas of what is funny.
--
"All FDR undid was the value of the dollar"
Kevin Gowen (really)
You really should put a hyphen between "un-westernized" and "Asians". It
sounds much more coolishly-American that way. And you don't want to sound
un-American, do you?
> > , especially when they are
> > > grabbed by a strange man like the cop. Grabbing a woman's arm is quite
> > > an offensive act and also it's sexual harassment
> >
> > Sexual harassment? Since when has a woman's arm been considered a sexual
> > appendage?
>
> There is a highschool teacher who was accused as sexual harassment
> because he held his female student's hand in Japan.
What was he holding her hand with?
> > False charge? The bitch was parked in a spot that wasn't hers. She
slapped a
> > guy (he's Japanese so I guess we can't work the "sexual harrasment"
charge
> > into the picture without some rather undignified chuckling from the
bench)
> > and that shit don't go.
>
> I don't know what you are talking about.
I was referring to the fact that un-westernized-asian-japanese-cops probably
get as much pussy as us older-married-but-still cool-american-hep-cat types
so they don't have to worry about sexual harrasment charges. This is also
why we are allowed to fondle high school girls on the train.
You say incoherent thing again. I've been un-American ever since I was
born since I'm Japanese. And I've been sounding un-American, so what
would be the problem about not sounding un-Amereican?
> > > , especially when they are
> > > > grabbed by a strange man like the cop. Grabbing a woman's arm is quite
> > > > an offensive act and also it's sexual harassment
> > >
> > > Sexual harassment? Since when has a woman's arm been considered a sexual
> > > appendage?
> >
> > There is a highschool teacher who was accused as sexual harassment
> > because he held his female student's hand in Japan.
>
> What was he holding her hand with?
I have no further information about this case.
> > > False charge? The bitch was parked in a spot that wasn't hers. She
> slapped a
> > > guy (he's Japanese so I guess we can't work the "sexual harrasment"
> charge
> > > into the picture without some rather undignified chuckling from the
> bench)
> > > and that shit don't go.
> >
> > I don't know what you are talking about.
>
> I was referring to the fact that un-westernized-asian-japanese-cops probably
Wrong. In Japan, every cop is supposed to be honorary White.
> get as much pussy as us older-married-but-still cool-american-hep-cat types
> so they don't have to worry about sexual harrasment charges. This is also
> why we are allowed to fondle high school girls on the train.
So you are Chikan.
> The important point of this NZ woman's case is that she wasn't
> violating any clause in the Road Traffic Act, neither any clause
> in the criminal code.
Kasu-kun, in addition to being paranoid-delusional, you are one
fooking moron. You don't seem to be aware than you have no
information about her case beyond Yahoo News' superficial
reporting...
> Her occupying of someone else's parking space is
> merely a civil affair, so the cop never had any right to interfere
> with her. Japanese police has no right to cut into any civil case. But
> the cop had violated this very fundamental rule of "No intervention in
> any civil case", and I guess his violation would be serious issue in
> Japan.
Your ignorant opinion of "what actually happened", or what is legal
or not, has little relevance to the real world, you twit.
I'll tell you what happens to gaijin bimbos or insignificant nobodies
like you deluding themselves with what Japanese police will or won't
do (or can get away with):
1.You are an uncooperative gaijin and slap a policeman? Expect to
get arrested and put in the slammer for a couple of days to "atama
wo hiyasu", while police will leisurely check whether they've got a
case for "koumu shikkou bougai", "immigration law violations" (have
you been less than cooperative when the police asked to see your
gaijin card or passport?) "substance abuse" (which might explain
why the suspect was so gesticulative and unruly), driving under
influence or attempt to forcibly decamp with a car, thereby possibly
endangering the people standing around...
Score: park space owner=1, bimbo/Kaz=0
2.Your car gets towed to some inconvenient place far away at *your*
expense -- which you'd better be prepared to pay, if you want to
recover your vehicle -- as you obvisouly can't drive it away
yourself now that you are in custody. Serves you well.
Score: park space owner=2, bimbo/Kaz=0
3.Your spousal unit has to pay unspecified "jidan" damages to settle
the case and show some "sei-i"/goodwill, hoping that the police
will not actually press the "koumu shikkou bougai" charges.
Score: park space owner=3, bimbo/Kaz=0
This 3-0 real world score, Kaz, and the simple fact that the lady
has actually been held in custody, contrary to what you claim should
have "legally" happened, show how irrelevant and uninformed your
drivel and speculations are.
Looking at the case, the owner of that parking space might have
wanted to nail down the ID of the car driver, e.g. to claim damages
as he missed an important client meeting or a proposal submission
deadline, or the ice cream package he bought melted in his car
while he was fuming, circling around attempting to find another
place to park.
As it would be frowned upon to fumble in the lady's handbag
yourself looking for her gaijin card or passport, it seems
reasonable to call the police to perform an ID check on that
loutish wench, who after all might also be a flight risk.
The policemen could also serve as witnesses to the trespassing.
Anyway, as to your idiotic assertion that "police have no business
interfering with 'civil' cases in Japan", I'd say: "only for
simpletons like you who don't know how useful law enforcement
agents can actually be..."
Does anyone have any idea what kind of mental problem this crude boy
Ken using such offensive words listed in the above toward me and
gaijin is?. I guess this boy Ken is a drug addict. He is extremely
serious and frantic. He is surely crazy.
"Ken" <dvd...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:c5fec6f.03061...@posting.google.com...
> Kaz wrote:
>
> > The important point of this NZ woman's case is that she wasn't
> > violating any clause in the Road Traffic Act, neither any clause
> > in the criminal code.
>
> Kasu-kun, in addition to being paranoid-delusional, you are one
> fooking moron. You don't seem to be aware than you have no
> information about her case beyond Yahoo News' superficial
> reporting...
>
>
> > Her occupying of someone else's parking space is
> > merely a civil affair, so the cop never had any right to interfere
> > with her. Japanese police has no right to cut into any civil case. But
> > the cop had violated this very fundamental rule of "No intervention in
> > any civil case", and I guess his violation would be serious issue in
> > Japan.
>
> You say incoherent thing again. I've been un-American ever since I was
> born since I'm Japanese. And I've been sounding un-American, so what
> would be the problem about not sounding un-Amereican?
Does this mean that you aren't the proud owner of a GIGANTIC PHAT SLAB?
> > What was he holding her hand with?
>
> I have no further information about this case.
Would you like to hold Bryan's "hand"? I'm sure he'd be able to give you
much more information concerning this subject than I can.
> So you are Chikan.
"Chikan"? Does this mean that I like sex? If so, then I admit that I this
might be the case. I'd like to shake your "hand" for correctly diagnosing my
problem.
I think I'm rather the owner of a SUMO WRESTLER-TIC SLAB, though.
> > > What was he holding her hand with?
> >
> > I have no further information about this case.
>
> Would you like to hold Bryan's "hand"? I'm sure he'd be able to give you
> much more information concerning this subject than I can.
Ummmmm.
> > So you are Chikan.
>
> "Chikan"? Does this mean that I like sex? If so,
Chikans rather like to fondle high school girls on the train than sex, I think.
Liking sex is a problem? Actually, I might agree with that sometimes.
Why would I ever take Viagra? I can't wait until I can look at a
beautiful girl without raising a tent, since I have gained the
maturity to understand that I'll never actually get to go campint with
her.
John W.
>> "Chikan"? Does this mean that I like sex? If so, then I admit that I this
>> might be the case. I'd like to shake your "hand" for correctly diagnosing my
>> problem.
> Liking sex is a problem? Actually, I might agree with that sometimes.
> Why would I ever take Viagra? I can't wait until I can look at a
> beautiful girl without raising a tent, since I have gained the
> maturity to understand that I'll never actually get to go campint with
> her.
I think the medical term for that is "death".
Mike
I see more misdemeanours psycho-tokyojap like Ken than foreigners. In
this case, the cop and the owner of "upper-class parking space".
> >turn a blind eye." Hellooo? I'd be interested to hear of an OECD
> >country where one could get away scot-free after physically abusing
> >a police officer...
Physically abusing? huh? Are the tokyo cops that weak? Being slapped
by a woman is often a joy of man. Anyway abusing women is a typical
regional behavior of Tokyo man like Ken. The cop had a strange
paranoic tokyojap man's pride then pressed her down with other 15
cops...shame.
> I don't know what an OECD country is, but if Sepponia is one, then you
> may begin your list with it. Doesn't happen all the time, true, but
> there are times when people aren't punished for being physically
> abusive to police officers.
This person Ken is sick paranoid. The victim is the woman and the
assailants are the cop and the owner of the "upper-class parking
space".
What would you think about sending a dawg to Mr.
Kanda for obedience training?
<snip>
>>I read it as parking the first time.
>
> I'll believe you, but you have to swallow one of my fibs next time.
I'm sure I have once or twice already. The guitar in the truck perhaps.
>>Seems Bryan and I have different ideas of what is funny.
>
> Bryan is easily amused. This isn't necessarily a bad thing.
Yes. Its one of the reasons why I'm looking forward to comparing
http://www.trainerbryan.com/apts.html
with
http://www.debito.org/housebuilding.html
Vive la difference.
> Physically abusing? huh?
Yes, members of the public slapping police is generally a bad idea, whether one is a child or Bob Sapp.
> Are the tokyo cops that weak?
No, but Japanese authority figures like outrageously outnumbering their opponents. Last night on the news, 20
or more prison guards were necessary to take one noisy* (but NOT physically violent) prisoner into solitary.
Why did they need so many? So the PRISONER would not be injured, claimed the spokesperson.
*What was this prisoner's offense? He would not be quiet sitting in his cell. He sang. The guard didn't like
it, and using non physical means could not get him to shut up. So he called for backup to put the disobedient
prisoner in solitary. Ten or more guards were also shown forcing a prisoner to fold up his sleeping mat.
There are cheaper, safer (for authorities) and easier ways to make criminals obey than mobbing them.
> Being slapped by a woman is often a joy of man.
We're talking police officer, not a paying customer in an S and M club.
> Anyway abusing women is a typical
> regional behavior of Tokyo man like Ken.
What does this have to do with slapping a police officer?
> The cop had a strange paranoic tokyojap man's pride then pressed her down with other 15 cops...shame.
Yes, it is odd that police came out in force for a private parking violation. Usually property owners say they
will extract a fine of some tens of thousands of yen.
> > I don't know what an OECD country is, but if Sepponia is one, then you
> > may begin your list with it. Doesn't happen all the time, true, but
> > there are times when people aren't punished for being physically
> > abusive to police officers.
>
> This person Ken is sick paranoid. The victim is the woman
No, she's the criminal. I obey authority figures and accept penalties even when I feel they are unjust,
particularly when I am guilty. If I were not guilty, maybe I would get a lawyer.
>>Seems Bryan and I have different ideas of what is funny.
>
> What would you think about sending a dawg to Mr.
> Kanda for obedience training?
As in Mr Kanda Batoma, Bundu Dia Kgo, du bitoto ou quoi?
Or something perhaps more along the lines of "Girl, 9, wed to dog"
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/06/19/1055828430709.html
>Bryan Parker wrote:
>> Declan Murphy <declan...@hotmail.com> said:
>
>>>Seems Bryan and I have different ideas of what is funny.
>>
>> What would you think about sending a dawg to Mr.
>> Kanda for obedience training?
>
>As in Mr Kanda Batoma, Bundu Dia Kgo, du bitoto ou quoi?
Way way WAY too deep for me. I just found the
English part of this guy's business card to be a
little humorous when I got it this morning.
http://www.trainerbryan.com/files/kanda.jpg
The only other people who liked it were my girls
and some hottie named Hiromi that "Brent" works
with.
>Or something perhaps more along the lines of "Girl, 9, wed to dog"
>
>http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/06/19/1055828430709.html
This is something that Ed would be interested in.
Had it been a goat, "Brent" would have been on the
next flight to West Bengal.
You know what, those cops are merely the same kind of cops as the cops
who lynched Mr. Rodney King by the freeway in California. The cop
arrested her and put her in jail for a week for his revenge against
the slap. Not for any suspicion of any crime on her. She is obviously
not any thief, robber or murderer. There is no suspicion of any crime
on her. I think if the cop were a Kansaijin, he wouldn't have arrested
her.
Tokyo folk's "Otoko rasii(manliness)" senses often extend to a
violence or an abuse toward women. That's their habits.
>> What does this have to do with slapping a police officer?
> You know what, those cops are merely the same kind of cops as the cops
> who lynched Mr. Rodney King by the freeway in California. The cop
At some point, you should avail yourself of a "Kinai-English" dictionary.
Rodney King was not "lynched".
Mike
> You know what, those cops are merely the same kind of cops as the cops
> who lynched Mr. Rodney King by the freeway in California. The cop
> arrested her and put her in jail for a week for his revenge against
> the slap. Not for any suspicion of any crime on her. She is obviously
> not any thief, robber or murderer. There is no suspicion of any crime
> on her. I think if the cop were a Kansaijin, he wouldn't have arrested
> her.
You are probably not a criminal. But please go slap a random police officer of any size, age or gender and see
what happens. You may be surprised.
I'm a big guy so I know what will happen if it's Kobe police. But I
still doubt if Osaka police really arrest me unless I slap him really
hard. They may think it's a kind of joke. Anyway, I am a man and she
is a woman, so things are completely different.
In my "japanese engrish" dictionary, no matter whether he actually
died or not, beating someone nearly to death is "lynch".
Perhaps you had better find a real dictionary; that is not a definition
of "lynch".
Mike
Nontheless, could you please immediately start this experiment by
slapping a variety of police officers wherever you go. Hopefully you
can keep us updated on the results, depending on how much free time
you have afterwards.
> Nontheless, could you please immediately start this experiment by
> slapping a variety of police officers wherever you go. Hopefully you
> can keep us updated on the results, depending on how much free time
> you have afterwards.
>
I think that this would make a very entertaining reality TV show. I
would watch "Slap a Cop" faithfully.
KWW
> Nontheless, could you please immediately start this experiment by
> slapping a variety of police officers wherever you go. Hopefully you
> can keep us updated on the results, depending on how much free time
> you have afterwards.
Definitely sounds like a great way for Kaz to demonstrate to the world just
how fun-loving and broad-minded those friendly Kinai police officers are. I
hope he will include a few female officers in his slapping experiment.
Of course, if he gets arrested during the course of this experiment, that
will only be because he accidentally slapped a Kobe-type policeman
masquerading as a Kinai native. Wasn't this what happened when Kaz got
beaten up by a homeless guy in Kinai?
--
Dave Fossett
Saitama, JAPAN
> Chikans rather like to fondle high school girls on the train than sex, I
think.
Having sex with ko gyarus usually means having to converse with ko gyarus.
Hmmm.... my respect for train riding chikans has suddenly risen.
Despite Kaz's "big size" (somehow images of the Pillsbury Doughboy spring to
mind), he can't even snap a few photos without an old homeless guy roughing
him up, so I wouldn't be too confident about how he will fare with the cops.
--
Regards,
Ryan Ginstrom
Nah. If they want to converse with a (cute) woman they can pay a
fortune and go to a hostess club.
John W.
> Of course, if he gets arrested during the course of this experiment, that
> will only be because he accidentally slapped a Kobe-type policeman
> masquerading as a Kinai native.
A true Kinai-jin knows another Kinai-jin on sight, and can see through
even the best disquise that an outsider might don in order to appear
Kinai-ish.
John W.
It actually doesn't necessarily have to be that expensive. Maybe a couple
man at a mid-scale place. I think the host clubs do a lot more bilking than
the hostess clubs. In the host clubs they really push those "mie" buttons by
pressuring the customers into showing off by buying expensive drinks and
such. I have yet to be to a hostess club where the entire staff starts to
clap and chant when you pull down a bottle of Dom P.
--
Regards,
Ryan Ginstrom