Minke Whale Burger Anybody?
minkewhaleburger
SHIMONOSEKI, Japan - People bid farewell to the Japanese whaling
research vessel Nisshin Maru, which left Shimonoseki port in Yamaguchi
Prefecture for the Antarctic on Nov. 7. The research team will capture up to
440 minke whales to collect data and make a report to the International
Whaling Commission, before returning to Japan next April (Kyodo)
Dick Muhfukkin Bagswing
Brian
Eric Takabayashi
I have no interest in eating whale. It appears that it is only those in favor
of whaling continue to use the old IWC population estimates of 760,000 for the
Antarctic minke, but it is still sustainable. Japanese killing 440 a year are
not responsible for rough population estimates declining by as much as half to
two thirds in two decades. Hunting minke is like hunting many finite species
such as bear or large African beasts, when done legally.
Imagine if we treated other limited and dwindling natural resources like we
protect certain animals. We'd have to stop using wood and fossil fuels. We'd
have to stop using fresh water. We'd have to stop mining for metals, precious
metals and gems. If we got too low on forest, we'd have to stop using oxygen.
The issue with minke whales is the safety of the meat itself.
Musashi
"minkewhaleburger" <minkewha...@nipsdestroyearth.com> wrote in message
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I don't think minke whale is anything special to write home about.
Also, I have never seen it ground into a burger.
Brett Robson
>
>The issue with minke whales is the safety of the meat itself.
>
Exactly how far from Japan is the Antaratic? It's my understanding they hunt on
the other side, tbelow Sth America. You can't get anyfurther away from Japan.
Those whales are not Japan's, Japan has no right to them. Regardless of
arguments for and against whaling Japan should respect the IWC decisions.
.
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"No country hides itself behind the paper screen of cultural elitism like Japan,
which, considering they've bought their entire civilisation from other people's
hand-me-downs, is a bit of a liberty."
Eric Takabayashi
> On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 22:56:18 +0900, Eric Takabayashi ...
> >
> >The issue with minke whales is the safety of the meat itself.
>
> Exactly how far from Japan is the Antaratic? It's my understanding they hunt on
> the other side, tbelow Sth America. You can't get anyfurther away from Japan.
> Those whales are not Japan's, Japan has no right to them. Regardless of
> arguments for and against whaling Japan should respect the IWC decisions.
Perhaps you are being sarcastic.
But the Japanese government does have their own rules on food contaminants such as
dioxins and heavy metals, which they conveniently ignore when it comes to fish,
whale and dolphin catches by Japanese. They recommend pregnant women and children
not eat "too much" heavy metal laden predatory fish. They claim to reduce the level
of heavy metals to acceptable levels by boiling whale meat before sale.
But when a single mad cow is found in Canada, an enzyme not approved by Japan found
in Subway sandwich dough, an additive not approved by Japan found in Duskin group
meat buns, or pesticide found in Chinese vegetables, look out.
Brett Robson
>
>Brett Robson wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 22:56:18 +0900, Eric Takabayashi ...
>> >
>> >The issue with minke whales is the safety of the meat itself.
>>
>>Exactly how far from Japan is the Antaratic? It's my understanding they hunt on
>> the other side, tbelow Sth America. You can't get anyfurther away from Japan.
>> Those whales are not Japan's, Japan has no right to them. Regardless of
>> arguments for and against whaling Japan should respect the IWC decisions.
>
>Perhaps you are being sarcastic.
No, I am deadly serious. Japan has no rights to those animals.
Dick Muhfukkin Bagswing
>
> I don't think minke whale is anything special to write home about.
> Also, I have never seen it ground into a burger.
>
Dumb ol' minke whale.
Brian
another fool
Oh come now. Whale meat is entirely too yummie to be ground up and
fried into a burger. I suggest you give it a try - it will change
your life.
Dick Muhfukkin Bagswing
> Oh come now. Whale meat is entirely too yummie to be ground up and
> fried into a burger. I suggest you give it a try - it will change
> your life.
I've tried it and believe that it has potential to be tasty as a burger.
Brian
Michael Cash
the alphabet and kept on going with:
>On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 02:16:22 +0900, Eric Takabayashi ...
>>
>>Brett Robson wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 22:56:18 +0900, Eric Takabayashi ...
>>> >
>>> >The issue with minke whales is the safety of the meat itself.
>>>
>>>Exactly how far from Japan is the Antaratic? It's my understanding they hunt on
>>> the other side, tbelow Sth America. You can't get anyfurther away from Japan.
>>> Those whales are not Japan's, Japan has no right to them. Regardless of
>>> arguments for and against whaling Japan should respect the IWC decisions.
>>
>>Perhaps you are being sarcastic.
>
>No, I am deadly serious. Japan has no rights to those animals.
Then who does?
Shinji Ikehashi
> No, I am deadly serious. Japan has no rights to those animals.
Yet, you indulge in a craving for Kobe beef...
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Brett Robson
Everyone. Yes that does sound like communism.
Brett Robson
>
>Brett Robson wrote:
>> No, I am deadly serious. Japan has no rights to those animals.
>
>Yet, you indulge in a craving for Kobe beef...
>
1. no Kobe beefs is full of fat and unhealthy
2. Kobe beef comes from Kobe which is in Japan (next to Osaka), Japan doesn't
hunt cattle in international waters on the otherside of the world.
Eric Takabayashi
> Brett Robson wrote:
> > No, I am deadly serious. Japan has no rights to those animals.
>
> Yet, you indulge in a craving for Kobe beef...
Japanese farmers and merchants are willingly selling "their" beef to people who give
them money, as surely as the world is selling Japan a full 60% of the food they eat,
because Japanese are no longer willing to grow food for themselves.
In light of the threats to the world food supply such as economic development when
nations such as China turn from agriculture to become net importers of food,
declining farmlands, limited supplies of fresh water, and simple poor weather, such a
policy of remaining so dependent for a commodity as basic as food is insane.
I suppose when the world runs short on food, Japan will simply try to buy some, and
deny food to the poor in countries which really need it.
Michael Cash
the alphabet and kept on going with:
>On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 23:25:58 +0900, Michael Cash ...
>>
>>On 7 Nov 2003 23:20:14 -0800, Brett Robson <jet...@deja.com> belched
>>the alphabet and kept on going with:
>>
>>>On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 02:16:22 +0900, Eric Takabayashi ...
>>>>
>>>>Brett Robson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 22:56:18 +0900, Eric Takabayashi ...
>>>>> >
>>>>> >The issue with minke whales is the safety of the meat itself.
>>>>>
>>>>>Exactly how far from Japan is the Antaratic? It's my understanding they hunt on
>>>>>the other side, tbelow Sth America. You can't get anyfurther away from Japan.
>>>>> Those whales are not Japan's, Japan has no right to them. Regardless of
>>>>> arguments for and against whaling Japan should respect the IWC decisions.
>>>>
>>>>Perhaps you are being sarcastic.
>>>
>>>No, I am deadly serious. Japan has no rights to those animals.
>>
>>Then who does?
If everyone does, then what's the problem with Japan taking them?
>>
>
>Everyone. Yes that does sound like communism.
Or that the whales are being taken in international waters.
Brett Robson
Because the international community continually tells them not to. Japan's
insistence on whaling makes Japan look stupid. All the good work Japan does
internationally is wasted by a bunch of ojisans who attempt to defend something
which most of the world regards as barbariac, on the grounds of culture.
>
>>>
>>
>>Everyone. Yes that does sound like communism.
>
>
>Or that the whales are being taken in international waters.
>
Which is why international bodies control international resources.
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"Eric Takabayashi" <eta...@yahoo.co.jp> wrote in message
> the world is selling Japan a full 60% of the food they eat,
> because Japanese are no longer willing to grow food for themselves.
....
> I suppose when the world runs short on food, Japan will simply try to buy
some, and
> deny food to the poor in countries which really need it.
No, they won't have the money nor the need. They'll take more whales and go
back to agriculture. I disagree with your analysis, they are potentially
more self-sufficient than ever.
Yes, they import 60% of the food they buy, but today they are eating and
wasting like pigs, they'd live well with only the 40%. If they didn't throw
away half full bowls of rice and any supermarket item with a scratch on the
package, and didn't eat junk and sweets, they'd still be far from
starvation.
Probably their agriculture is more developed and polyvalent than ever
before. Yes, less rice, but more potatoes, more wheat, more soy (and the
technology and land possible to rapidly expand those cultures in Hokkaido),
more fruits and vegetables of all sorts, and they have developed a meat and
dairy industry from scratches. The fish/seafood farming produces more than
the needs in many products. They have managed to keep over-fishing and wood
destruction away from their islands. I know they import the wood they waste
now and over-fish in other continents, but here in Kansai, there are still
dolphins and mountains full of sugi planted to build houses, in reserve.
Add to that, they are not as threatened by water shortage (which is a real
threat for European agriculture, more than a threat for Africa and I've
heard Americans saying they had the problem too), and still they are already
training experts in agriculture with reduced water.
Frankly, they've done a good job in the last 50 years, I don't mean morally
good. OK, there are problems of pesticides, etc, but no country escapes to
it, and compared with others the environment damages have been really
limited (look at Thailand, the development of their export rice industry
comes an ecological suicide), and they are not the last ones to delevop less
chemical ways of cultivating everything and to diversify the cultures.
.
That's even surprising, that sounds smarter than them.
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"Brett Robson" <jet...@deja.com> wrote in message
> Because the international community continually tells them not to. Japan's
> insistence on whaling makes Japan look stupid.
It's better to look stupid than to really be stupid. The "international
community" is quick to advise anyone to sacrifice self-interest for the
comfort of everybody....especially when the guy talking in the micro is not
concerned by the problem.
>All the good work Japan does
> internationally is wasted by a bunch of ojisans who attempt to defend
something
> which most of the world regards as barbariac, on the grounds of culture.
The day they no longer have money to import food, the "international
community"won't help them more than they now help Africa, half of Asia, half
of Latin America to feed their people.
> >Or that the whales are being taken in international waters.
> Which is why international bodies control international resources.
You're talking about the international government ? I don't remember voting,
when was the last election ? Who is the president/prime minister/king ? They
have a political program or what ?
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Dick Muhfukkin Bagswing
I want my teriyakiminkubaagu!
Or my Minkutatsuta!!!!!!
Brian
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