Gaigins pointing-to-the-nose-watashi thing
Ken Yasumoto-Nicolson
don't know if it naturally follows, but I know a couple of gaigin who
regularly point to the nose, rather than to the chest, to indicate
"self". To me it always looks like a forced gesture, but I've never
actually asked the people who do it if it's natural or not, just in
case they get offended or something. I'm no psychologist or whatever,
but I would think that it must be forced. What do you lot think?
Ken
The 2-Belo
No offense taken, since I've become a thick-skinned bastard, but I never even
realized I was pointing to my nose to indicate "self" until I went to the US
last year and my mother picked on me for days about it.
I would be suspect if the gaigins in question were JETs or something who've been
here eighteen or nineteen minutes, but with those of us who are under life
sentences (and rarely come into regular contact with other gaigins), I'd say
it's a natural result of watching a hundred thousand other people do it 98,263
times a day.
--
The 2-Belo
the2belo[AT]msd[DOT]biglobe[DOT]ne[DOT]jp
news:alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk (mhm21x20)
news:alt.fan.karl-malden.nose (Meow.)
http://www.godhatesjanks.org/ (God Hates Janks!)
Processing failed. Hit any user to continue.
Michael Cash
<the2...@msd.biPOKPOKglobe.ne.jp> belched the alphabet and kept on
going with:
>Ken Yasumoto-Nicolson and fj.life.in-japan is a baaaaaaaaaaad combination:
>
>>I'm yet to progress to the um-ing and aw-ing in Japanese phase, so I
>>don't know if it naturally follows, but I know a couple of gaigin who
>>regularly point to the nose, rather than to the chest, to indicate
>>"self". To me it always looks like a forced gesture, but I've never
>>actually asked the people who do it if it's natural or not, just in
>>case they get offended or something. I'm no psychologist or whatever,
>>but I would think that it must be forced. What do you lot think?
>
>No offense taken, since I've become a thick-skinned bastard, but I never even
>realized I was pointing to my nose to indicate "self" until I went to the US
>last year and my mother picked on me for days about it.
>
>I would be suspect if the gaigins in question were JETs or something who've been
>here eighteen or nineteen minutes, but with those of us who are under life
>sentences (and rarely come into regular contact with other gaigins), I'd say
>it's a natural result of watching a hundred thousand other people do it 98,263
>times a day.
I agree. It's a natural progression. And while it may feel unusual or
forced at first, it becomes second nature. I used to catch this sort
of shit from fellow gaigins for using "ore" to refer to myself,
together with a regurgitation of what someone had told them about it
being vulgar or uncouth. Well guess the fuck what? I *am* vulgar and
uncouth. So what's the fucking problem?
Anyway, the real cause for concern would be if one picked up the habit
of pointing at objects with one's middle finger, a common sight across
the table in McNovas and the like.
Dave Fossett
I'd agree with what 2-belo wrote. I'm pretty sure I point to my face rather
than my chest, but it's not really something you think about consciously.
You mean to say you don't bow when you talk on the phone? As long as you
don't start putting your hand over your mouth when you speak, I wouldn't
worry too much.
--
Dave Fossett
Saitama, Japan
Eric Takabayashi
I do it by accident.
mtfe...@netmapsonscape.net
Wait till you see them bowing while talking on the phone...
Mike
Michael Cash
belched the alphabet and kept on going with:
>Ken Yasumoto-Nicolson <ken_ni...@hotmail.com> wrote:
<prolonged sucking of air through teeth> We don't pick up habits like
that.
Bryce
yourself as "ore".
"Michael Cash" <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> wrote in message
news:00h2ovgpp7mks80cr...@4ax.com...
Bryce
<mtfe...@netMAPSONscape.net> wrote in message
news:blrqug$60d$1...@news.Stanford.EDU...
Michael Cash
<fuk...@takethisout.hotmail.com> belched the alphabet and kept on
going with:
>If you hang out with a bunch of old men all day, how could you NOT refer to
>yourself as "ore".
Since I don't hang out with a bunch of old men all day, I haven't the
slightest idea.
Bryce
"Michael Cash" <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> wrote in message
news:gg73ov4ih61qrhk8n...@4ax.com...
Michael Cash
>Oh, I did for quite awhile actually. I didn't have a choice.
Like mothers always say, "You can pick your friends but you can't pick
your cellmates."
Bryce
"Michael Cash" <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> wrote in message
news:kv93ovghlta4gugp6...@4ax.com...
Mad Dan
<covers mouth with hand, giggles>
Jon up in Tohoku
>
> Wait till you see them bowing while talking on the phone...
>
> Mike
I don't know about bowing on the phone, but I would be worried if I started
making those forced smiles while talking on the phone. And I guess I do
point to my nose. I have never really thought about it, I guess it is just a
conditioned response to my environment. And I will put my hand over my mouth
if I talk when I am eating. Because some people just have the worse timing
and always seem to ask some big question right after I fill my mouth with
obscene mounds of food. I guess I am just a polite guy that doesn't want
people to see the food in my mouth while I tell them to FUCK OFF and wait
till I swallow before they ask me the meaning of life.
Ken Yasumoto-Nicolson
> Ken Yasumoto-Nicolson wrote:
>
> > I'm yet to progress to the um-ing and aw-ing in Japanese phase, so I
> > don't know if it naturally follows, but I know a couple of gaigin who
> > regularly point to the nose, rather than to the chest, to indicate
> > "self". To me it always looks like a forced gesture, but I've never
> > actually asked the people who do it if it's natural or not, just in
> > case they get offended or something. I'm no psychologist or whatever,
> > but I would think that it must be forced. What do you lot think?
>
> I'd agree with what 2-belo wrote. I'm pretty sure I point to my face rather
> than my chest, but it's not really something you think about consciously.
Ahh, I see now - one of the people was a long-time inmate of these
isles, but the other was fresh off the boat, so perhaps only one was
natural.
> You mean to say you don't bow when you talk on the phone?
Heh, I would do that in English - well, at least nod - as I talked
long before I ever set foot in Japan.
Actually, last night I was phoning my brother's office back in
Scotland, and I said "gomen" to the receptionist at one point...
Ken
Ken Yasumoto-Nicolson
> Anyway, the real cause for concern would be if one picked up the habit
> of pointing at objects with one's middle finger, a common sight across
> the table in McNovas and the like.
So, what's the significance of pointing with your middle finger?
Ken
Rafael Caetano
> > <prolonged sucking of air through teeth> We don't pick up habits like
> > that.
>
>
> <covers mouth with hand, giggles>
I thought only girls did that.
[]s
Rafael
Louise Bremner
> > Michael Cash <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> wrote...
>
> > > <prolonged sucking of air through teeth> We don't pick up habits like
> > > that.
> >
> >
> > <covers mouth with hand, giggles>
>
> I thought only girls did that.
Careful of your attributions, there. Or are you using a newsreader that
doesn't add the "Mad Dan <mad...@keepitloud.com> wrote:" line?
And how do you know that "Mad Dan" isn't a girl?
________________________________________________________________________
Louise Bremner (log at gol dot com)
If you want a reply by e-mail, don't write to my Yahoo address!
Bryan Parker
<takes a knee-wobbling chu-hai piss on the street
corner and says, "I haven't changed a :hic: bit.">
--
Bryan
gaijenesis -
noun: the event that is a beginning; a first part or stage
of subsequent events of gaijinhood
Michael Cash
<puntspe...@yahoo.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going
with:
>mad...@keepitloud.com (Mad Dan) said:
>
>>Michael Cash <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> wrote in message news:<49v2ovcd03dtmsdqq...@4ax.com>...
>>> On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 13:33:04 +0000 (UTC), mtfe...@netMAPSONscape.net
>>> belched the alphabet and kept on going with:
>>>
>>> >Ken Yasumoto-Nicolson <ken_ni...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> I'm yet to progress to the um-ing and aw-ing in Japanese phase, so I
>>> >> don't know if it naturally follows, but I know a couple of gaigin who
>>> >> regularly point to the nose, rather than to the chest, to indicate
>>> >> "self". To me it always looks like a forced gesture, but I've never
>>> >> actually asked the people who do it if it's natural or not, just in
>>> >> case they get offended or something. I'm no psychologist or whatever,
>>> >> but I would think that it must be forced. What do you lot think?
>>> >
>>> >Wait till you see them bowing while talking on the phone...
>>>
>>> <prolonged sucking of air through teeth> We don't pick up habits like
>>> that.
>>
>>
>><covers mouth with hand, giggles>
>
><takes a knee-wobbling chu-hai piss on the street
>corner and says, "I haven't changed a :hic: bit.">
JR called. They want you to take responsibility for that
newspaper-covered ocean of puke you left on the train.
Dick Muhfukkin Bagswing
Only if I'm speaking that yingyong shit.
Brian
Dick Muhfukkin Bagswing
>
> I thought only girls did that.
>
> []s
> Rafael
Or fruitbats. Like Toruchan who was just on tv.
Brian
Dick Muhfukkin Bagswing
to fucking a baby.
I never point to my nose but I say "un" enough to where it almost makes me
despise myself.
I told my mom "urusai" once back in Indy and tried to kick myself in the
balls immediately after I did so.
Brian
Bryan Parker
Wasn't me! I was passed out on the sidewalk in a
business suit at that time.
Mad Dan
> Rafael Caetano <rcae...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Michael Cash <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> wrote...
>
> > > > <prolonged sucking of air through teeth> We don't pick up habits like
> > > > that.
> > >
> > >
> > > <covers mouth with hand, giggles>
> >
> > I thought only girls did that.
>
> Careful of your attributions, there. Or are you using a newsreader that
> doesn't add the "Mad Dan <mad...@keepitloud.com> wrote:" line?
>
> And how do you know that "Mad Dan" isn't a girl?
>
Well, I am male and you might just have explained why I've been
finding life in Japan so confusing and weird these last ten years -
for which I must thank you!
(Can I keep my sailor suits though?!)
The 2-Belo
>No. They are customers. I have a couple "bars" in Japan.
[What, is this guy the God of Flaming Setup Lines, or what?]
Ahem.
"You have about 36 of them, to be exact, vertical, 18 per cell door."
The 2-Belo
That was HIM?
Or did you actually see that? I had to listen to the rivers of bile and see the
result in the carriage I was in just the other night.
Michael Cash
Yasumoto-Nicolson) belched the alphabet and kept on going with:
It means you're gay.
Jon up in Tohoku
> I told my mom "urusai" once back in Indy and tried to kick myself in the
> balls immediately after I did so.
>
If you could kick yourself in the balls, there may be a bright future on the
road, in a circus, with all those Chinese contortionists.
Jon
Dick Muhfukkin Bagswing
> Dude,
>
> If you could kick yourself in the balls, there may be a bright future on
the
> road, in a circus, with all those Chinese contortionists.
>
> Jon
>
Yeah,kicking is actually out of the question but I can haul off and punch
them fuckers when I feel like it.
Brian
Jon up in Tohoku
I hope you don't feel like it too often. Shit dude, you would get a lot of
funny looks it you felt like it in say a shopping center.
Standin' by the fountain punchin' punchinchin punchin' the punchinchin pound
a pound a pud in the punchin' da punchinchin pow.
crazy shit.
Jon
Bryce
referring to. (o yes! and a haircutting solon!)
"The 2-Belo" <the2...@msd.biPOKPOKglobe.ne.jp> wrote in message
news:3f839eb7$0$2948$df06...@news.sexzilla.net...
Michael Cash
>No, they both have about 8 girls a piece, I think you know the kind I'm
>referring to. (o yes! and a haircutting solon!)
I thought legislators usually voted themselves a high enough salary
that they didn't have to do anything else.
Bryce
"Michael Cash" <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> wrote in message
news:5gh8ov00vli2c9ulb...@4ax.com...
Louise Bremner
wondering if this is pre-emptive recognition of the Whooooooooosh:
Haluk
yazdı:Q5ggb.163$gG3....@news.uswest.net...
> If you hang out with a bunch of old men all day, how could you NOT refer
to
> yourself as "ore".> news:00h2ovgpp7mks80cr...@4ax.com...
> > On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 17:31:31 +0900, The 2-Belo
> > <the2...@msd.biPOKPOKglobe.ne.jp> belched the alphabet and kept on
> > going with:
> >
> > >Ken Yasumoto-Nicolson and fj.life.in-japan is a baaaaaaaaaaad
> combination:
> > >
> > >>I'm yet to progress to the um-ing and aw-ing in Japanese phase, so I
> > >>don't know if it naturally follows, but I know a couple of gaigin who
> > >>regularly point to the nose, rather than to the chest, to indicate
> > >>"self". To me it always looks like a forced gesture, but I've never
> > >>actually asked the people who do it if it's natural or not, just in
> > >>case they get offended or something. I'm no psychologist or whatever,
> > >>but I would think that it must be forced. What do you lot think?
> > >
never
> even
> > >realized I was pointing to my nose to indicate "self" until I went to
the
> US
> > >last year and my mother picked on me for days about it.
> > >
> > >I would be suspect if the gaigins in question were JETs or something
> who've been
> > >here eighteen or nineteen minutes, but with those of us who are under
> life
> > >sentences (and rarely come into regular contact with other gaigins),
I'd
> say
> > >it's a natural result of watching a hundred thousand other people do it
> 98,263
> > >times a day.
> >
> > I agree. It's a natural progression. And while it may feel unusual or
> > forced at first, it becomes second nature. I used to catch this sort
> > of shit from fellow gaigins for using "ore" to refer to myself,
> > together with a regurgitation of what someone had told them about it
> > being vulgar or uncouth. Well guess the fuck what? I *am* vulgar and
> > uncouth. So what's the fucking problem?
> >
> > Anyway, the real cause for concern would be if one picked up the habit
> > of pointing at objects with one's middle finger, a common sight across
> > the table in McNovas and the like.
> >
Or washi, yada ware ware :)