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Computer Help near Kawanishi, Hyougo?

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Kevin Wayne Williams

未読、
2003/10/01 17:01:192003/10/01
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I have a pen-pal in Kawanishi (northeast of Kobe) that is reluctant to
install any anti-virus software or security patches onto her machine
because she is not computer literate, and is scared of breaking things.
That means she is running Outlook Express and Internet Explorer
unpatched and hooked to a DSL line. I helped her get bugbear uninstalled
through e-mail, but can't get her to install any more protections (even
though she wants to). Can anyone recommend a computer shop in the area
that could make a house call and get her up and running on Netscape with
an anti-virus package installed?

KWW

Fabian

未読、
2003/10/01 17:49:172003/10/01
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"Kevin Wayne Williams" wrote in the snow

If this friend is prepared to pay my travel costs (Im next to Nagoya,
shink may be around 10000 yen or so), I could do it one weekend.


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Fabian
Visit my website often and for long periods!
http://www.lajzar.co.uk

mr.sumo snr.

未読、
2003/10/01 21:24:422003/10/01
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"Kevin Wayne Williams" <nih...@paxonet.kom> wrote in message
news:zgHeb.869$3b7...@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...

Is she using XPee? If so, why not remote connect to her machine and do the
upgrades for her. Alternatively, install a remote client program such as
Symantec pcAnywhere (XPee, 2000, ME or 98) - connect and sort here out that
way. pcAnywhere has the added advantage of showing her what you're doing,
as you're doing it, if you pardon my French. It's downloadable (is that
English?) from the usually sources.

Now of course someone will tell us that pcAnywhere is in fact an FBI spyware
program designed to remote connect and scan our hard disks for weapons of
mass destruction.


--
jonathan
--
"Never give a firewall to ducks"


Fabian

未読、
2003/10/02 4:16:282003/10/02
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"mr.sumo snr." <mr_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:blfuot$c2j4j$1...@ID-141600.news.uni-berlin.de...

> Is she using XPee? If so, why not remote connect to her machine and
do the
> upgrades for her. Alternatively, install a remote client program such
as
> Symantec pcAnywhere (XPee, 2000, ME or 98) - connect and sort here out
that
> way. pcAnywhere has the added advantage of showing her what you're
doing,
> as you're doing it, if you pardon my French. It's downloadable (is
that
> English?) from the usually sources.

Would the young lady necessarily know how to install this remote client
program? And if you can enter her machine using the remote client, whats
to stop anyone else?

I sincerely hope XP isnt being distributed with this kind of open access
set as the factory default.

cc

未読、
2003/10/02 4:22:032003/10/02
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"mr.sumo snr." <mr_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> Is she using XPee? If so, why not remote connect to her machine and do
the
> upgrades for her.

Yeah, that always ends up working... There is a god for computer idiots.

On my way to buy a PCI card, Santa Rita stopped me in front of cute optical
mini-mice, so I bought one too, and back at home started playing with my
mousette, rolling it on the setsumeisho, and there they explained my problem
! It seems those mice are designed for people at my level (even under, there
are drawings to show where to plug it !).
So : "no USB line in the device manager = USB line somewhere in BIOS is set
on disabled". All the drivers I thought I had failed to installed reappeared
like in a dream.

CC

Michael Cash

未読、
2003/10/02 4:53:252003/10/02
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On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:22:03 +0900, "cc" <cpasune...@spam.com>
belched the alphabet and kept on going with:

I thought you had already checked the BIOS. A couple of days ago I was
monkeying around in my BIOS, noticed the USB thing, and thought I
would suggest that you check your BIOS. But then I reviewed the thread
and it appeared that you had already done that.


Michael Cash

未読、
2003/10/02 8:15:532003/10/02
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On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 21:01:19 GMT, Kevin Wayne Williams
<nih...@paxonet.kom> belched the alphabet and kept on going with:

Couldn't you just help her move to the US and set her up with WebTV?


Kevin Wayne Williams

未読、
2003/10/02 9:29:392003/10/02
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Fabian wrote:

> "mr.sumo snr." <mr_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:blfuot$c2j4j$1...@ID-141600.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
>
>>Is she using XPee? If so, why not remote connect to her machine and
>
> do the
>
>>upgrades for her. Alternatively, install a remote client program such
>
> as
>
>>Symantec pcAnywhere (XPee, 2000, ME or 98) - connect and sort here out
>
> that
>
>>way. pcAnywhere has the added advantage of showing her what you're
>
> doing,
>
>>as you're doing it, if you pardon my French. It's downloadable (is
>
> that
>
>>English?) from the usually sources.
>
>
> Would the young lady necessarily know how to install this remote client
> program?
> And if you can enter her machine using the remote client, whats
> to stop anyone else?

She would be thrilled to be described that way ... more the housewife
type that uses e-mail as a virtual way out of the. Kind of like everyone
here. Thanks for your offer earlier up, but I was looking for an
established service she can call. I just don't feel comfortable with
"Let this stranger into your house. I can vouch for him because he
responded to my message."

>
> I sincerely hope XP isnt being distributed with this kind of open access
> set as the factory default.

Does it matter? There is open access to every copy of every version of
every Windows mail product, so the security of the underlying OS is
irrelevant.

KWW

Bryan Parker

未読、
2003/10/02 9:45:092003/10/02
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Michael Cash <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> said:

Or an AOL account?


--
Bryan
gaijenesis -
noun: the event that is a beginning; a first part or stage
of subsequent events of gaijinhood

cc

未読、
2003/10/02 11:36:002003/10/02
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"Michael Cash" <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> wrote in message

> I thought you had already checked the BIOS. A couple of days ago I was
> monkeying around in my BIOS, noticed the USB thing, and thought I
> would suggest that you check your BIOS. But then I reviewed the thread
> and it appeared that you had already done that.

I had checked and rechecked....but not at the good place.Today I have
discovered there were several pages in that BIOS. No so far ago, I believed
a BIOS was a double-bone ("os" means bone in my language).
Well the important is that works, now I can try to fix other things.

CC

Fabian

未読、
2003/10/02 17:55:192003/10/02
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"Kevin Wayne Williams" <nih...@paxonet.kom> wrote in message
news:7LVeb.35752

> > I sincerely hope XP isnt being distributed with this kind of open
access
> > set as the factory default.
>
> Does it matter? There is open access to every copy of every version of
> every Windows mail product, so the security of the underlying OS is
> irrelevant.

True, MSOE default security is a joke. Fortunately, my machine is locked
up tighter that a certain proverbial aquatic avian's rear entrance, so I
have no worries.

John W.

未読、
2003/10/04 19:22:372003/10/04
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Kevin Wayne Williams <nih...@paxonet.kom> wrote in message news:<zgHeb.869$3b7...@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>...
So... she can email and otherwise work a computer, but can't go to
Norton or McAfee and download some antivirus software? I think she
should sell her computer.

John W.

Kevin Wayne Williams

未読、
2003/10/04 20:51:332003/10/04
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You seriously haven't met such people? Someone showed her what buttons
to push to get on-line, and how to send a new message and how to reply
to one she has received. That is the extent of her knowledge. My mother
is the same way, and I am not going to advocate taking her computer away
from her, either.

KWW

John W.

未読、
2003/10/05 10:06:282003/10/05
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Kevin Wayne Williams <nih...@paxonet.kom> wrote in message news:<pWJfb.51855$Wd7....@nwrddc03.gnilink.net>...
> John W. wrote:
>

> > So... she can email and otherwise work a computer, but can't go to
> > Norton or McAfee and download some antivirus software? I think she
> > should sell her computer.
>
> You seriously haven't met such people? Someone showed her what buttons
> to push to get on-line, and how to send a new message and how to reply
> to one she has received. That is the extent of her knowledge. My mother
> is the same way, and I am not going to advocate taking her computer away
> from her, either.
>

My parents are that way too. But it's not that complicated to do the
Norton download stuff, or go to a store and buy a disk and follow
instructions. But I do know what you mean. Maybe she should just buy a
new computer with everything installed; might be cheaper than having
someone come out to her house and charge her an arm and a leg (which
they could easily do, especially if she's that illiterate and they
take advantage of her). Dell will install all that stuff and
everything's good to go when she gets the computer.

John W.

Kevin Wayne Williams

未読、
2003/10/05 10:40:482003/10/05
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John W. wrote:


> Dell will install all that stuff and
> everything's good to go when she gets the computer.

It will sell you a computer with Outlook disabled and a default browser
besides IE?

KWW

Michael Cash

未読、
2003/10/05 13:08:422003/10/05
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On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 14:40:48 GMT, Kevin Wayne Williams

<nih...@paxonet.kom> belched the alphabet and kept on going with:

>John W. wrote:

I thought that with some of the latest shit going around it didn't
really matter whether IE was the default browser or not.


Kevin Wayne Williams

未読、
2003/10/05 14:13:542003/10/05
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Some of the latest stuff, yeah. Doesn't keep IE from being a major weak
point and a target for future attacks, though. Outlook is the real weak
point, and likes to integrate so nicely with IE that the best way to
protect things is just load up Eudora and Mozilla, rename all files in
your Outlook directory, and proceed carefully. I haven't figured out a
safe way to cripple Explorer completely yet.
KWW

Fabian

未読、
2003/10/05 18:10:052003/10/05
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"Kevin Wayne Williams" <nih...@paxonet.kom> wrote in message
news:CbZfb.53144

> Some of the latest stuff, yeah. Doesn't keep IE from being a major
weak
> point and a target for future attacks, though. Outlook is the real
weak
> point, and likes to integrate so nicely with IE that the best way to
> protect things is just load up Eudora and Mozilla, rename all files in
> your Outlook directory, and proceed carefully. I haven't figured out a
> safe way to cripple Explorer completely yet.
> KWW

Outlook Exp with default settings is a huge security risk. You can
change the security settings so that these security holes are plugged.
MSOE CAN be made secure. Its just that the default factory settings
suck.

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