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Joseph DeMartino

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4. des. 2001, 10:40:464.12.2001
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This turned up on the "info" newsgroup as part of a digest of your recent usenet
posts to the .mod:

">You don't giggle like Mozart did, do you?

Put that feather down right NOW mister.
jms

>In response to some premature reports about WB stopping the DVD release of B5,
JMS wrote this, on Oct. 10:

Actually, I checked with WB, and they say they've finished conforming all but 3
season 1 eps for DVD, and are still intending to go ahead.
jms

>Someone was upset that JMS wasn't interviewed for NPR, though John Romita Jr.
was, and didn't even mention JMS:

As an FYI to the question posed here earlier, no, I wasn't contacted by NPR, but I
was interviewed for this by the New York Times, the New York Daily News, and the
Washington Post, so I think we can let this
one slide....

jms"

I recognize every one of those quotes *except* the one about the DVDs. Didn't see
it on the .mod, didn't see it in the Columbia mailing list, didn't find it on
JMSNews. I strongly suspect that this is wishful thinking (or a 'net rumor) that
somebody slipped in between some legit quotations in order to give it more
credibility. Can you comment?

I especially found the timing odd since you are supposed to have posted that WHV
was almost finished prepping season 1 on October 10th, and on October 16th WHV had
this to say about "B5" on DVD, during a live chat on the Home Theater Forum:

> We will evaluate the first release's reception and hope it's great. Because if
the DVD performance does not improve upon the VHS performance from a few years
back, it will not continue. So please support Release #1. <

Well, gotta run. I'm headed out to Best Buy to pick up the disc because I'm
working 3 back-to-back 15 hour days starting Thursday, and by the time the copy I
pre-ordered from Amazon shows up I won't have time to look at it. <g>

Regards,

Joe


Jms at B5

ólesið,
4. des. 2001, 15:03:394.12.2001
til
Yes, those are all mine, and due to the response to the movie B5 DVDs it's my
understanding that WB is almost there on deciding to release the first few
seasons.

jms

(jms...@aol.com)
(all message content (c) 2001 by synthetic worlds, ltd.,
permission to reprint specifically denied to SFX Magazine
and don't send me story ideas)


Dave Mansell

ólesið,
4. des. 2001, 15:34:004.12.2001
til
In article <20011204150339...@mb-md.aol.com>, jms...@aol.com
(Jms at B5) wrote:

> Yes, those are all mine, and due to the response to the movie B5 DVDs
> it's my understanding that WB is almost there on deciding to release
> the first few seasons.

Well I bought 3 copies :)

My friends are getting them for Xmas

Dave


Joseph DeMartino

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4. des. 2001, 15:59:344.12.2001
til
> Yes, those are all mine... <

Great, thanks for the confirmation. I can't believe I missed the DVD quotation,
since I'm usually all over that topic, and am even more puzzled that it doesn't
show up on JMSNews. But the main thing is that it is accurate. I can only assume
that the pre-orders were so strong WHV is only waiting to make sure that they
translate into brick-and-mortar sales before pulling the trigger on further
releases. I know that the pre-orders for the first "X-Files" set were so
(astoundingly) high that Fox committed to releasing S2 before the initial set
officially went on sale in stores.

I see that the U.K. version, coming in March, is going out on separate discs. Any
chance that this means they'll have some extras on them, hence the delay in
releasing them and the split between two discs? (If that's the case I'm guessing
that WHV will re-release "special editions" versions in the States as well, after
the first boxed sets go out.)

Finally, have they given any further thought to extras on the episode discs
themselves. (We'd all love to have commentary tracks from you on a half-dozen key
episodes, from the actors where available and appropriate, a director or two, and
I, for one, would love to hear some of the freelance writers like David Gerrold,
Dorothy Fontana and Peter David comment on their scripts. And surely there is an
episode in there somewhere that Harlan would like to riff on for forty or so
minutes. <g>)

How are things going on "Jeremiah"?

Regards,

Joe

Aisling Willow Grey

ólesið,
4. des. 2001, 16:24:274.12.2001
til
>>Jms at B5 wrote:

> Yes, those are all mine, and due to the response to the movie B5 DVDs it's my
> understanding that WB is almost there on deciding to release the first few
> seasons.<<

Woo hoo! I was so gratified to see that the ITB/TG DVD was in the top
100 DVDs at Amazon.com today (#96). I hoped that would mean good news
from the Suits. Like, maybe they're considering whole-season boxsets....?

Aisling Grey
(Waiting anxiously for my car to be wrapped with Legend of the Rangers
promotional stuff so I can start driving around promoting the show!)

Kathryn Huxtable

ólesið,
4. des. 2001, 16:27:064.12.2001
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So I went and did the Joseph DeMartino thing and bought an additional
copy of the DVD at Best Buy so I don't have to wait for my Amazon
pre-order. I can give it as a gift when it comes.

I just watched it. (I love telecommuting. I do it on Tuesdays.) I
thought it was fine, visually, but some of the camera motion seemed a
bit uneven here and there. I'll have to compare them with my VHS tapes
when I get them back from the person I'm attempting to convert into a
fan.

Okay, I give up. I don't like the cardboard case because there's no
place to put a second disk. The US release is a single two-sided DVD,
with "The Gathering" on one side and "In the Beginning" on the
other. I don't like that.

-K

Rob Scott

ólesið,
4. des. 2001, 16:53:214.12.2001
til
"Jms at B5" <jms...@aol.com> wrote ...

> Yes, those are all mine, and due to the response to the movie B5 DVDs it's
my
> understanding that WB is almost there on deciding to release the first few
> seasons.
>
> jms

Woo-hoo!!! Here's hoping for all five seasons ... and Crusade too, while
they're at it.

Rob Scott

Claudia Mastroianni

ólesið,
4. des. 2001, 19:38:114.12.2001
til
Kathryn Huxtable <kat...@kathrynhuxtable.org> wrote:
: Okay, I give up. I don't like the cardboard case because there's no

: place to put a second disk. The US release is a single two-sided DVD,
: with "The Gathering" on one side and "In the Beginning" on the
: other. I don't like that.

It is? Amazon lists it as two discs. How annoying of them. Has anyone
emailed them about the error?

For Joe:

Oh, how irritating. When I clicked on "more technical details", one of
the listmania lists I was offered was by someone advertising their
site where you can get pirated copies of the whole series.

Anyone know anywhere better to send a complaint to than feed...@amazon.com?

The guy goes by "scoutrider" and has a list at http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/listmania/list-browse/-/20L0BGGTPE8SY/qid=1007512588/sr=5-2/ref=sr_5_71_2/103-8243199-3768612 pointing to his site at http://alienanimations.20m.com

Claudia
--
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then it becomes less & less important whether I am afraid."
-- bathroom graffiti, Lamont Library, May 6, 1999

flet...@post.queensu.ca

ólesið,
4. des. 2001, 19:39:534.12.2001
til
In a general waste of bytes, Claudia wrote:
> Anyone know anywhere better to send a complaint to than feed...@amazon.com?
ab...@amazon.com should work.

Kathryn Huxtable

ólesið,
4. des. 2001, 20:18:504.12.2001
til
Claudia Mastroianni <cma...@fas.harvard.edu> writes:

> Kathryn Huxtable <kat...@kathrynhuxtable.org> wrote:
> :[...] The US release is a single two-sided DVD,


> : with "The Gathering" on one side and "In the Beginning" on the
> : other. I don't like that.
>
> It is? Amazon lists it as two discs. How annoying of them. Has anyone
> emailed them about the error?

Yes, it is. A dastardly deception, not that knowing it would stop me
from buying it. After all, I want the series on DVD. We've got to keep
the sales up.

-K

Aisling Willow Grey

ólesið,
4. des. 2001, 22:33:324.12.2001
til
Claudia Mastroianni wrote:

>
> Oh, how irritating. When I clicked on "more technical details", one of
> the listmania lists I was offered was by someone advertising their
> site where you can get pirated copies of the whole series.
>
> Anyone know anywhere better to send a complaint to than feed...@amazon.com?<<

Yes. Write, or call, the copyright owner. Best to do it in the country
where the infringement is taking place, but Warner Canada can probably
help you as well as Warner US (probably better, in my experience!).

Irritating, indeed. And, criminal. I might even ring up a colleague
from my past life about this, myself.

Aisling Grey

Aisling Willow Grey

ólesið,
4. des. 2001, 22:53:054.12.2001
til
>>Aisling Willow Grey wrote:

> >>Jms at B5 wrote:
>
>> Yes, those are all mine, and due to the response to the movie B5 DVDs
>> it's my
>> understanding that WB is almost there on deciding to release the first few
>> seasons.<<
>
>
>
>
> Woo hoo! I was so gratified to see that the ITB/TG DVD was in the top
> 100 DVDs at Amazon.com today (#96).<<

Correction: I just checked back in at Amazon.com, and it's now up to #70
in sales rank for DVDs. (Woo hoo!) Guess those were all the sales to
people who didn't want to pre-order, and thus only ordered today...

Farscape's entire first season is out on DVD, yet none of the Farscape
DVDs even made it into the top 100.

Aisling Grey

AndrSwllw

ólesið,
4. des. 2001, 23:50:184.12.2001
til
at B5) writes:

>Yes, those are all mine, and due to the response to the movie B5 DVDs it's my
>understanding that WB is almost there on deciding to release the first few
>seasons.
>
> jms
>

Good news. I hope WB will use the sales of the movies to
estimate the sales of the seasons. Where a full season
is involved getting the level of sales wrong is very expensive.
Making a thousand when you can sell a million will annoy a
lot of people. Reprinting 8 DVDs takes a long time. Making
too many would waste a lot of money.

Andrew Swallow


Craig Powers

ólesið,
5. des. 2001, 01:44:375.12.2001
til
Kathryn Huxtable wrote:
>
> Okay, I give up. I don't like the cardboard case because there's no
> place to put a second disk.

It's a Warner release. Something about them having some sort of
financial interest in that sort of DVD case (own a patent on it or
some such). Personally, I prefer the keep-cases (used to like Alpha
best, but Amaray have grown on me), but where it's just Warner (and,
I think, New Line), I can deal with it.

Jan

ólesið,
5. des. 2001, 06:36:545.12.2001
til
Aisling Grey wrote:

<<Correction: I just checked back in at Amazon.com, and it's now up to #70
in sales rank for DVDs. (Woo hoo!) Guess those were all the sales to
people who didn't want to pre-order, and thus only ordered today...>>

Could be that there are a lot of people who have alerts set for Babylon 5 only
just got the word. Amazon doesn't sent out alerts until the street date.

Jan

Patrick R. Sklenar

ólesið,
5. des. 2001, 09:50:415.12.2001
til
jms...@aol.com (Jms at B5) wrote:

> ... due to the response to the movie B5 DVDs ...

Well, I received a notice from Amazon yesterday, my copy is on its
way! T'is been pre-ordred since the first day. :)
--
pat----


Bart Barenbrug

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5. des. 2001, 11:46:365.12.2001
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Claudia Mastroianni responded to Kathryn Huxtable's post:

> : The US release is a single two-sided DVD,


> : with "The Gathering" on one side and "In the Beginning" on the
> : other. I don't like that.
>
> It is? Amazon lists it as two discs. How annoying of them.

Another annoyance: who put the "this film has been modified to fit
your tv screen" title card in front of (the correctly framed in 4:3)
The Gathering? This makes it look like the pilot would be
available in widescreen. At least good that they think that B5
is "movie-like" enough to warrant such a message, but it is
misleading...

Bart

Mac Breck

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5. des. 2001, 12:46:535.12.2001
til

You're kidding! Guess they had their brains set on auto-pilot.

Mac Breck
------------------------
Vorlon Empire

"To Live and Die in Starlight"
pilot movie for "Babylon 5 - The Legend of the Rangers"
January 19, 2002 at 9PM on The Sci-Fi Channel.

http://www.scifi.com/b5rangers/ http://www.b5lr.com/


Rob Scott

ólesið,
5. des. 2001, 14:04:105.12.2001
til
"Bart Barenbrug" <ba...@win.tue.nl> wrote ...

> Another annoyance: who put the "this film has been modified to fit
> your tv screen" title card in front of (the correctly framed in 4:3)
> The Gathering? This makes it look like the pilot would be
> available in widescreen. At least good that they think that B5
> is "movie-like" enough to warrant such a message, but it is
> misleading...

Since WHV does mostly movies, I guess a staff person figured if it was 4:3
it must have been panned-and-scanned.

It's hard to complain too much -- at least they *do* put the "this film has
been modified" frame in front of movies. IIRC, it took many directors
complaining until they were blue in the face before this started happening.

Rob Scott

Claudia Mastroianni

ólesið,
5. des. 2001, 14:35:165.12.2001
til
flet...@post.queensu.ca wrote:

: In a general waste of bytes, Claudia wrote:
:> Anyone know anywhere better to send a complaint to than feed...@amazon.com?
: ab...@amazon.com should work.

Indeed. Well whichever one worked, the guy's lists have been pulled.

Claudia
--
O Freuden-Tag! O Halloo-Schlag!


Jay Denebeim

ólesið,
5. des. 2001, 14:45:085.12.2001
til
In article <3C0E4F6C...@win.tue.nl>,
Bart Barenbrug <ba...@win.tue.nl> wrote:

>Another annoyance: who put the "this film has been modified to fit
>your tv screen" title card in front of (the correctly framed in 4:3)
>The Gathering?

Since I've got 16:9 this would be a lie even if it were true. "this
film has been modified to be distorted on your tv screen" is more
accurate.

Jay
--
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http://www.deepthot.org:2001/denebeim.html

Michael J Wise

ólesið,
5. des. 2001, 19:19:075.12.2001
til
Jms at B5 wrote:

> Yes, those are all mine, and due to the response to the movie B5 DVDs
> it's my understanding that WB is almost there on deciding to release
> the first few seasons.

X-cellent!

Aloha mai Nai`a!
--
"Please have your Internet License http://kapu.net/~mjwise/
and Usenet Registration handy..."


BRETNTRACI

ólesið,
5. des. 2001, 21:19:215.12.2001
til
>Yes, those are all mine, and due to the response to the movie B5 DVDs it's my
>understanding that WB is almost there on deciding to release the first few
>seasons.
>
> jms

Any idea on *how* they are going to be released (ie 2 per disk, 4 per, or boxed
sets of seasons -- the latter is my choice)

Lisa Coulter

ólesið,
6. des. 2001, 17:54:406.12.2001
til
jms...@aol.com (Jms at B5) wrote in message news:<20011204150339...@mb-md.aol.com>...

Yes! No more worn out VHS, no more worn out VHS. :)

Lisa Coulter

Mike Ross

ólesið,
7. des. 2001, 00:38:287.12.2001
til

Joe,

First few *seasons*? What constitutes 'few'? Five :-) ? Seem to
remember from SD we concluded a Minbari fleet numbered three... no
surprise there.

Or was 'seasons' a typo for 'season 1 episodes'?

Sounds hopeful anyway!

Mike
http://www.corestore.org
Rangers Catering Corps - 'we boil for the One, we fry for the One'

Andrew

ólesið,
7. des. 2001, 16:59:057.12.2001
til
"Mike Ross" <aba...@attglobal.net> wrote in message
news:lrl01u4irh74eddob...@4ax.com...

> On 04 Dec 2001 20:03:39 GMT, jms...@aol.com (Jms at B5) wrote:
>
> >Yes, those are all mine, and due to the response to the movie B5 DVDs
it's my
> >understanding that WB is almost there on deciding to release the first
few
> >seasons.
> >
> > jms
> >
> >(jms...@aol.com)
> >(all message content (c) 2001 by synthetic worlds, ltd.,
> >permission to reprint specifically denied to SFX Magazine
> >and don't send me story ideas)
>
> Joe,
>
> First few *seasons*? What constitutes 'few'? Five :-) ? Seem to
> remember from SD we concluded a Minbari fleet numbered three... no
> surprise there.

Ah ah ah... we want six sets - S1-5, and movies & Crusade together (for 25
hours with _...Starlight_ thrown in.

> Or was 'seasons' a typo for 'season 1 episodes'?

Oh, *please* no...

> Sounds hopeful anyway!

Yeppers.

--
Andrew
===============
"We live for the one,
we die for the one.
But we *don't* die stupidly."
--Captain David Martel,
_To Live and Die in Starlight_

Erno Simila

ólesið,
7. des. 2001, 18:20:397.12.2001
til
In article <z_5P7.79842$8n4.5...@e3500-atl1.usenetserver.com>,
"Joseph DeMartino" <jdem...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> This turned up on the "info" newsgroup as part of a digest of your
> recent usenet posts to the .mod:
>

<snip>

Joe, could you check your Microsoft Outlook Express settings and set
your line length to something between 68 and 78 characters?
Nowadays your posts look just awful when viewed by any traditional
Unix news agent. This is particularly frustrating, since your posts
are often one of the most interesting in this newsgroup.

Best regards,

--
Erno Similä
"He's dead, Jim." -- McCoy, The Devil in the Dark

Joseph DeMartino

ólesið,
7. des. 2001, 20:40:037.12.2001
til
> Joe, could you check your Microsoft Outlook Express settings and set your
line length to something between 68 and 78 characters? <

Sorry about that. I downloaded a security patch that reset some of the values
to the default. I set the line length for plain text mail, but somehow missed
the newsgroup setting.

> This is particularly frustrating, since your posts are often one of the most
interesting in this newsgroup. <

Aw, shucks. *blush*

Set at 78 now, let me know how it looks.

Thanks,

Joe

Mac Breck

ólesið,
7. des. 2001, 21:23:247.12.2001
til

That's strange. I'm using the same thing and my default setting is to wrap
at 76 characters for both mail and newsgroup messages (both set to plain
text). So, 76 being between 68 and 78 should have been OK.

Mac Breck
------------------------
Vorlon Empire

"To Live and Die in Starlight"
pilot movie for "Babylon 5 - The Legend of the Rangers"

January 19, 2002 at 9PM & 11PM EST, January 20, 2002 at 5PM on The Sci-Fi

Andrew

ólesið,
7. des. 2001, 21:34:357.12.2001
til
"Erno Simila" <ersi...@paju.oulu.fi> wrote in message
news:87her2o...@poet.pp.nic.fi...

In article <z_5P7.79842$8n4.5...@e3500-atl1.usenetserver.com>,
"Joseph DeMartino" <jdem...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> This turned up on the "info" newsgroup as part of a digest of your
> recent usenet posts to the .mod:
>
>
> <snip>
>
> Joe, could you check your Microsoft Outlook Express settings and set
> your line length to something between 68 and 78 characters?
> Nowadays your posts look just awful when viewed by any traditional
> Unix news agent. This is particularly frustrating, since your posts
> are often one of the most interesting in this newsgroup.

Unfortunately, he uses AOhelL, so that's probably not an option.

Joseph DeMartino

ólesið,
7. des. 2001, 21:52:407.12.2001
til
> Unfortunately, he uses AOhelL, so that's probably not an option. <

No, he doesn't. He uses BellSouth DSL. <g> And what on Earth made you think
he did? (Besides, I don't think you can use an third-party mail program with
AOL, can you? I've never been an AOL user myself, so really have no idea - I
just know that their built-in mail system is junk An AOL return address was
always a trouble flag when we were trying to send mortgage closing packages to
title companies and other closing agents via e-mail when I worked for a
mortgage company.)

Regards,

Joe


Andrew

ólesið,
8. des. 2001, 07:28:158.12.2001
til
"Joseph DeMartino" <jdem...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:e6fQ7.120072$8n4.8...@e3500-atl1.usenetserver.com...

> > Unfortunately, he uses AOhelL, so that's probably not an option. <
>
> No, he doesn't. He uses BellSouth DSL. <g> And what on Earth made you
think
> he did?

I goofed--I thought he was talking to JMS, who does. (Can't line up the
threads when it's over a screen long.) Sorry!

Erno Simila

ólesið,
8. des. 2001, 15:45:068.12.2001
til
I wrote:
>
> Joe, could you check your Microsoft Outlook Express settings and set
> your line length to something between 68 and 78 characters?
>

In article <92eQ7.119975$8n4.7...@e3500-atl1.usenetserver.com>,

"Joseph DeMartino" <jdem...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> Set at 78 now, let me know how it looks.
>

Now it looks just fine, thank you *very* much. However, if you want
that your lines won't be broken when someone quotes them, you could
use 76 characters per line at maximum. Most netiquettes suggest
that the line length should be around 72 chars a line (I use 68),
since there can be several quote marks at the beginning of each
line. Sorry to be pain in the -you know what- , but that's just us
Finns. We are rude and arrogant people. :-)

--
Erno Similä

Jay Denebeim

ólesið,
8. des. 2001, 23:53:038.12.2001
til
In article <l4hk7vx...@paju.oulu.fi>,
Erno Simila <ersi...@mail.student.oulu.fi> wrote:

>Most netiquettes suggest that the line length should be around
>72 chars a line (I use 68), since there can be several quote
>marks at the beginning of each line.

I use 65, you see I expect to be quoted alot, so 15 quotes deep
is to be expected :-)

Skilaboðum hefur verið eytt
Skilaboðum hefur verið eytt
Skilaboðum hefur verið eytt

Pelzo63

ólesið,
9. des. 2001, 04:19:449.12.2001
til
jdemarti wrote:

>Besides, I don't think you can use an third-party mail program with
>AOL, can you?

no, to read mail in AOL, you can only use the AOL mail program(well,
sub-program, since it's part of the main AOL client). and newsgroup posting in
AOL is done seperately from email in AOL. while the internal workings may or
may not be similar, the visible functionality is vastly different. and again,
you can only use the aol newsreader, but in both cases you can use web based
email/newsreaders naturally(google, deja, hotmail, etc).

> I've never been an AOL user myself, so really have no
>idea
>- I
>just know that their built-in mail system is junk An
>AOL return address
>was
>always a trouble flag when we were trying to send
>mortgage closing packages
>to
>title companies and other closing agents via e-mail
>when I worked for a
>mortgage company.)

well, in almost 5 years of using AOL, i have never encountered most* of the
problems i hear people complain about, including this one. and it's internal
mail system(from aol/compuserve user to aol/compuserve user), is stellar, and i
have never had an email take more than 5 seconds, after aol told me the message
was sent, to arrive in the other person's inbox. and in MOST cases my out of
service email arrives quickly as well. occasionally i do have problems with
specific isp's (msn for some reason takes 10 minutes to get email from my aol
account). also, in trouble shooting problems for friends(and strangers), i've
usually found that the true cause of most problems in AOL and other "entry
level" programs is PEBKAC**.

*the only common problem i had was busy signals, and that went away after a
couple weeks after aol wnt unlimited.
**Problem Exists Between keyboard And Chair.

...Chris, not an aol apologist, i just hate mis-placed blame.

Erno Simila

ólesið,
9. des. 2001, 12:44:349.12.2001
til
In article <l4hk7vx...@paju.oulu.fi>,
Erno Simila <ersi...@mail.student.oulu.fi> wrote:
>
> Most netiquettes suggest that the line length should be around 72
> chars a line (I use 68)
>

In article <9uuqnf$afv$2...@dent.deepthot.org>,
dene...@deepthot.org (Jay Denebeim) wrote :


>
> I use 65, you see I expect to be quoted alot, so 15 quotes deep
> is to be expected :-)
>

Well, I have seen people who use only 50-55. However, I find text
that has well under 60 chars per line somewhat difficult to read.
Otherwise everything goes, as long as lines are not too long, of
course.

[ Btw, I apologize for those duplicates I sent of my earlier
followup to this thread. Another crappy news server I use went to
idiot mode, and I thought it had lost my message. I re-sent it, but
nothing happened in 10 hours or so. Therefore I mailed it to
b5...@deepthot.org, and it went through. I tried to cancel those
duplicates that now showed up, but somehow I doubt cancel messages
usually work. ]

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