Club passing -- HELP!!!!
Bob
thought that you might be able to answer.
When you recieve a pass, lets say to the left hand, normally (hopefully)
when you catch the club the handle will be generally be pointing towards
the ground and the bulb of the club towards the sky. When this doesn't
happen (which is much more often than I would like), what are some of the
ways you can resolve this problem and continue with your pattern?
We have come up with some possibles:
1. Catch the bulb and throw a 1/2 or 1 1/2 spin to your right to
compensate.
2. Catch the handle overhand and then throw to your right overhanded as
well.
3. Drop all of the clubs and start over (my preferred method, or so it
would seem)
Brian, (my friend) seems to remeber seeing some sort of hand motion you
could do (a la baton twirling) to properly re-orient the club, but I am
not familiar with it and he can't remember the specifics.
Anyone have any ideas?
Thanx!
Bob
Alea iacta est! -Caesar, 49 BCE
Bob McCann
rmc...@mesastate.edu
Woody LaBounty
Bob wrote in message ...
>
>We have come up with some possibles:
>
>1. Catch the bulb and throw a 1/2 or 1 1/2 spin to your right to
>compensate.
That's it! (I throw 1/2s, but most people I know throw 1 1/2s)
You can do a flourish, but that isn't the easiest way to remedy the problem.
You realize, of course, that the true issue is the _throw_ coming in (that
makes you catch the club upside down.) Work on the throws and you won't
have to worry about fixing the catches.
Woody LaBounty
wo...@wnpsf.net
www.wnpsf.net
"I'm a juggler...it's what I do."
Although I seem to be typing almost as much these days...
Isaac Orr
>1. Catch the bulb and throw a 1/2 or 1 1/2 spin to your right to
compensate.
well.
>3. Drop all of the clubs and start over (my preferred method, or so it
would seem)
>Brian, (my friend) seems to remeber seeing some sort of hand motion you
>could do (a la baton twirling) to properly re-orient the club, but I am
>not familiar with it and he can't remember the specifics.
I don't like method 2 too much - I don't think it looks or feels too good.
Actually I once worked for a week to get a solid 3 club cascade all on (as
you call it) "overhand" catches and throws, and when I finally had it I
decided it was ugly... BTW I saw Manu from the Gandini project juggle this
pattern _really_ low and it didn't look half bad, so I guess it's not just
in the eyes of the beholder but also in the hands of the performer :)
Method 1 is the easiest. I usually go for 1.5 spins for some reason, but 0.5
spin is better to learn (I think) because it slows everything down and gives
you time to recover your senses if you're new to bad-catch-correction.
Method 3 sounds cool as well ;-) BTW why do you drop ALL your clubs just
because you dropped one? How about maintaining the rhythm and picking (or
kicking) it up?
As for method 4, it's called a "flourish", and if you're up for a lame
description then you can check in my web site (URL below), under "Trick
Throws" -> "Non Passed Tricks". There's a pretty detailed description for
you there. To practice this pattern play 1 round of 2 in 1 hand out of a 3
club cascade and at the same time make a wrong end catch with the other hand
(catch in the middle of the club, where the handle meets the bulb) and
flourish. Have that solid solo before doing it while passing and annoying
your partner :). Of course if you're catching with your left you should be
able to flourish with your left in order to correct bad passes (that makes
sense, doesn't it?).
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Isaac Orr <o...@dynamica.net>
Club Passing and Juggling Simulator site -
http://members.xoom.com/IsaacOrr/
Rob Stone
<Pine.OSF.4.10.99093...@mesa7.mesa.colorado.edu>, Bob
<rmc...@mesa7.mesa.colorado.edu> wrote:
>A friend and I are working on club-passing, and have a question that we
>thought that you might be able to answer.
>
snip
>We have come up with some possibles:
>
>1. Catch the bulb and throw a 1/2 or 1 1/2 spin to your right to
>compensate.
>
>2. Catch the handle overhand and then throw to your right overhanded as
>well.
>
>3. Drop all of the clubs and start over (my preferred method, or so it
>would seem)
>
>
4: a single self and 1.5 spin pass.
most people go for the 1.5 self because IMHO its easier than the 0.5 but I
think the 0.5 is nice and beter fo BIGGER numbers (8+). The arm notion is
the same you just snap the wrist at the last moment and it magically does
a 1.5
-- Rob.
.....................................................................
Rob Stone, Dept Psychology, University of York, York, YO10 5DD, UK
See Anthony Gatto perform at 13th British Juggling Convention.
13..16 April 2000 YORK, UK http://www.bjc2k.york.ac.uk/
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Daniel Ehlers
I use 1 1/2 spin whenever I catch the wrong end while passing and while
juggling alone. The extra spin helps keep the pattern stable. 1/2 spins
tends to slow your pattern and what you trying to do is reestablish balance.
If things are really going to hell I'll throw double self spins. This tends
to be amusing to other jugglers and sometimes they drop from loss of
concentration. Many bad throws can be compensated by catching early or
late. Try to stay mobile so you can drop down to catch late or dart around
to catch a wild throw. Never stop because someone drops. Always try to
pick-up dropped clubs or steal a club out of the pattern if the club is
closer to you partner. By the time you and your partner learn the
flourishes you mentioned, you probably are not thowing many tosses that need
compensating.
Bob <rmc...@mesa7.mesa.colorado.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.OSF.4.10.99093...@mesa7.mesa.colorado.edu...
> A friend and I are working on club-passing, and have a question that we
> thought that you might be able to answer.
>
> When you recieve a pass, lets say to the left hand, normally (hopefully)
> when you catch the club the handle will be generally be pointing towards
> the ground and the bulb of the club towards the sky. When this doesn't
> happen (which is much more often than I would like), what are some of the
> ways you can resolve this problem and continue with your pattern?
>
> We have come up with some possibles:
>
> 1. Catch the bulb and throw a 1/2 or 1 1/2 spin to your right to
> compensate.
>
> 2. Catch the handle overhand and then throw to your right overhanded as
> well.
>
> 3. Drop all of the clubs and start over (my preferred method, or so it
> would seem)
>
>
> Brian, (my friend) seems to remeber seeing some sort of hand motion you
> could do (a la baton twirling) to properly re-orient the club, but I am
> not familiar with it and he can't remember the specifics.
>
Javawizard
repair for a mistake. For instance, most jugglers until about 12 years ago
threw chops and shoulder throws to be caught as high as regular passes, and
they were designed to be caught upside-down. Pass with any of the Karamosov
Brothers, and you'll see them sink to the floor to catch a 'modern' chop throw
in the old upside-down manner. (Well, Tim Furst doesn't anymore, but all the
old-timers used to do that).
Back to the subject at hand: Another way out of the upside down club
situation is to throw it back high and flat to your partner's left hand. This
gives you lots of time to straighten out your other two clubs, which are most
likely slightly out of control also at this point. If you throw it back high
enough, it comes in nice and pretty, right on time.
Have fun!
- Jeff Napier -
http://members.aol.com/wbox/index.htm
Martin Frost me at stanford edu
turning it. That is, bring your 4th and 5th fingers around to the "back"
of the club while lowering your hand but keeping the knob pointing straight
up. Then when the club is at your side, it is already corrected, except
for the fact that you have an unusual grip on it (similar to the formal
spool grip, but with only two fingers (4 and 5) behind the club instead of
the three behind the spoon). Then you just throw a single self with that
grip.
Myself, I generally prefer the low-energy .5 spin to the higher-energy 1.5
spin, but I sometimes use the above funny grip correction.
Martin