"During strike resolution"...
Orpheus
damage "during strike resolution" ; should this be done before or after
counting the strike damage ? It's important because you can't steal some
blood if the guy hasn't any, but you can put into torpor somebody without
blood, so...?
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Orpheus
James Coupe
writes
>Some cards, like "Darkness within", either steal some blood or inflict 1
>damage "during strike resolution"
For reference, Darkness Within does neither, having its own defined
effect which is similar.
> ; should this be done before or after
>counting the strike damage ?
1) Choose Strike phase
2) Resolve Strike phase
a) Strike: Combat Ends
b) Strike: Dodge
c) Strike: First Strike
d) Strike: everything else, including all "during strike
resolution" effects
when resolving c) and d), go through:
i) Apply effects of strike or calculate damage
i.e. steal blood now, move blood now etc.
ii) Prevent and heal damage
e.g. Ian Forestal (8 blood) plays Theft of Vitae (superior) at close
range. Retaliating is Roman Alexander (4 blood) with a hand strike and
a Wolf Companion.
Ian steals the 2 blood (Roman, 2 blood) but it immediately drains off.
The damage that Roman and the Wolf are dealing is calculated now but is
applied afterwards. So Ian (8 blood) takes 2 damage, so is now on 6
blood.
At the end of the round, then, Ian is on 6 blood and Roman on 2.
In the Final Nights rule-book, see page 42, the example of Sarah Cobbler
fighting the Mage.
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> In the Final Nights rule-book, see page 42, the example of Sarah Cobbler
> fighting the Mage.
And I STILL want to know what card Sarah is playing that allows her to
steal three blood.
Orpheus
Let's say, for example, Talley is fighting a vampire who has only 3 blood
left ; before range, he does Darkness within. During strike resolution on
the first round, his enemy loses 1 blood ; Talley's strike is a Burning
Wrath, for 3 aggravated damage. My question is : is the blood taken first,
and thus the vampire burned, os it it taken after the damage, which is not
possible as there is no blood left ?
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James Coupe
writes
>Ok, but it
Terms such as "it" are unhelpful when you top-post.
>Let's say, for example, Talley is fighting a vampire who has only 3 blood
>left ; before range, he does Darkness within. During strike resolution on
>the first round, his enemy loses 1 blood ; Talley's strike is a Burning
>Wrath, for 3 aggravated damage. My question is : is the blood taken first,
Yes, since this is handled when strikes are resolved which is before
damage is healed.
Derek Ray
> Ok, but it still doesn't answer my question :
>
> Let's say, for example, Talley is fighting a vampire who has only 3
> blood left ; before range, he does Darkness within. During strike
> resolution on the first round, his enemy loses 1 blood ; Talley's
> strike is a Burning Wrath, for 3 aggravated damage. My question is :
> is the blood taken first, and thus the vampire burned, os it it taken
> after the damage, which is not possible as there is no blood left ?
Strike resolution happens before damage resolution.
First, strikes resolve; this is when blood is stolen, and also when S:CE
happens. Damage is applied to minions accordingly (and may be prevented).
Next, damage resolution occurs, and minions burn blood to heal damage or to
avoid destruction, as appropriate. This is why Sarah Cobbler with two
blood can steal two from an opposing minion, and then be hit for 4 with
Pushing the Limit, yet not go to torpor.
So in your above example, during strike resolution, the opposing vampire
loses 1 blood, leaving him at 2 blood. Talley's strike now resolves; the
first point of agg wounds the opposing vampire, and he burns his last 2
blood to prevent destruction from the second and third point of agg. He
now goes to torpor empty; it would have taken 4 points of agg to burn him.
Orpheus
Ok, I'll whip myself right away (oh Yesssss !!!).
>Let's say, for example, Talley is fighting a vampire who has only 3 blood
> >left ; before range, he does Darkness within. During strike resolution on
> >the first round, his enemy loses 1 blood ; Talley's strike is a Burning
> >Wrath, for 3 aggravated damage. My question is : is the blood taken
first,
>
> Yes, since this is handled when strikes are resolved which is before
> damage is healed.
Ok, that is simple and clear, thanks for your answer.