LSJ / Mask of 1K F question...
reyda
predator as a D action ; and : Juju can bleed your predator as a D action)
can a vampire mask the action done by the other ? or is still considered
illegal ?
(and , yes, i have something in mind)
reyda
LSJ
>
> If two vampires have the same innate ability (eg : Jojo can bleed your
> predator as a D action ; and : Juju can bleed your predator as a D action)
> can a vampire mask the action done by the other ?
No. Each action by card in play is a different action.
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reyda
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> reyda wrote:
> >
> > If two vampires have the same innate ability (eg : Jojo can bleed your
> > predator as a D action ; and : Juju can bleed your predator as a D
action)
> > can a vampire mask the action done by the other ?
>
> No. Each action by card in play is a different action.
If two different vampires are archons, the archon rush action is different
for each vampire ?
no mask in any case ?
LSJ
> > >
> > > If two vampires have the same innate ability (eg : Jojo can bleed your
> > > predator as a D action ; and : Juju can bleed your predator as a D action)
> > > can a vampire mask the action done by the other ?
> >
> > No. Each action by card in play is a different action.
>
> If two different vampires are archons, the archon rush action is different
> for each vampire ?
> no mask in any case ?
Archon is not a card in play, so the Archon action is not restricted
like a card in play action.
A second Archon (with obf) can mask the Archon rush action taken by the
first Archon.
Henrik Isaksson
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> reyda wrote:
> > "LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message
> > > reyda wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If two vampires have the same innate ability (eg : Jojo can bleed
your
> > > > predator as a D action ; and : Juju can bleed your predator as a D
action)
> > > > can a vampire mask the action done by the other ?
> > >
> > > No. Each action by card in play is a different action.
> >
> > If two different vampires are archons, the archon rush action is
different
> > for each vampire ?
> > no mask in any case ?
>
> Archon is not a card in play, so the Archon action is not restricted
> like a card in play action.
>
> A second Archon (with obf) can mask the Archon rush action taken by the
> first Archon.
>
Does this mean that an archon could (with the new NRA rule) freakdrive and
rush an unlimited number of times?
/henrik isaksson
LSJ
> LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> skrev i
> > Archon is not a card in play, so the Archon action is not restricted
> > like a card in play action.
> rush an unlimited number of times?
Yes. The New NRA rule limits bleeds, PAs, action cards, and card-in-play
actions. See the preview for confirmation.
Henrik Isaksson
LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> skrev i
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> Henrik Isaksson wrote:
> > LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> skrev i
> > > Archon is not a card in play, so the Archon action is not restricted
> > > like a card in play action.
> > Does this mean that an archon could (with the new NRA rule) freakdrive
and
> > rush an unlimited number of times?
>
> Yes. The New NRA rule limits bleeds, PAs, action cards, and card-in-play
> actions. See the preview for confirmation.
>
> --
Nice... Out of curiosity... Was an archon ever not allowed to do this? I
find this reference to card in play in the old rules too...
"If a card in play is used to perform one of these actions, that action is
considered to be of that type. If it is not one of these actions (such as
"enter combat via Haven Uncovered"), then it is a type of its own, by
specific instance of the card in play."
/Henrik Isaksson
LSJ
> Nice... Out of curiosity... Was an archon ever not allowed to do this? I
> find this reference to card in play in the old rules too...
>
> "If a card in play is used to perform one of these actions, that action is
> considered to be of that type. If it is not one of these actions (such as
> "enter combat via Haven Uncovered"), then it is a type of its own, by
> specific instance of the card in play."
Well, probably most judges/players would've counted it as a card in play,
but no, it isn't restricted by the current VEKN Special Floor rule, since
it (the Archon rush) is not an action card nor an action granted by a
card in play.
Joshua Duffin
> Henrik Isaksson wrote:
> > Nice... Out of curiosity... Was an archon ever not allowed to do this? I
> > find this reference to card in play in the old rules too...
> >
> > "If a card in play is used to perform one of these actions, that action
is
> > considered to be of that type. If it is not one of these actions (such
as
> > "enter combat via Haven Uncovered"), then it is a type of its own, by
> > specific instance of the card in play."
>
> Well, probably most judges/players would've counted it as a card in play,
> but no, it isn't restricted by the current VEKN Special Floor rule, since
> it (the Archon rush) is not an action card nor an action granted by a
> card in play.
So those judges/players would have been wrong to count it as a card
in play, right? Since the card doesn't actually go into play?
Funny, that no one (apparently) noticed this for so long. :-)
Josh
no repeat actions doesn't mean you can't repeat actions
reyda
:: "LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message
:: news:3D32B6A8...@white-wolf.com...
(snip Archon thingy)
::: Well, probably most judges/players would've counted it as a card in
::: play, but no, it isn't restricted by the current VEKN Special Floor
::: rule, since it (the Archon rush) is not an action card nor an
::: action granted by a card in play.
::
:: So those judges/players would have been wrong to count it as a card
:: in play, right? Since the card doesn't actually go into play?
::
:: Funny, that no one (apparently) noticed this for so long. :-)
In fact, we often put cards like "archon" or "justicar" on/under the vampire
for a reminder but it's not supported by the rules. The card should be in
the Ash heap and can be retrieved by cards like Sargon Fragment or Summon
Soul. Maybe we should start to use small sticking notes (no clandestine ad.)
reyda
Henrik Isaksson
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Notice that Templar is worded exactly as Archon... Could do wonders for a
!Brujah deck where Richter and Jimmy Dunn crash the party for tthe other
players... =)
/henrik isaksson
Tom, Mad & Co
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IF Jaroslav Pascek (for obf PRE CEL POT) is going to be as someone has
stated, a Turbo-Archon deck should arise. Justicar calls himself Archon with
AWE/voter cap. Freak, visit, Disg.Weap. Sengir dagger/ivory bow, aggro
damage, amaranth, freak, repeat. Add enough Freaks and some auxiliar cards
like IR goggles, laptop, depravity, pursuits, psyche! and staredown and pool
gaining via several blood dolls/minion taps. Superior mettle and elemental
stoicism for some flavour along with a few 2nd trads and stakes. Don't know
if I have enough Al's Army Apparatus to build this deck. 4 may be enough? :)
Tom,Mad&Co
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