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LSJ : Heart of Darkness + Daring the Dawn

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Mechadick

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14 mai 2002, 11:50:1014/05/2002
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If a vampire with Fortitude and Serpentis ( like UNRE for example )
put a heart of Darkness with daring the dawn to be un-blockable .
Since the action is succesful and the dammage occur after the action ,
does the dammage is normal or aggravated ?

Thank You ,

Mechadick

GreySeer

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14 mai 2002, 12:38:3714/05/2002
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The damage is normal.

Name: Heart of Darkness
[AH, FN]
Cardtype: Action
Cost: 2 blood
Discipline: Serpentis
[ser] Put this card on the acting vampire. Aggravated damage taken by this
vampire is changed to normal damage. Any minion may burn this card as a (D)
action.
[SER] As above, and this vampire may prevent 1 damage each combat.

Name: Daring the Dawn
[Sabbat, SW, FN]
Cardtype: Action Modifier
Discipline: Fortitude
[for] Vampires cannot block this action. This vampire takes 2 aggravated
damage (not preventable) after the action is complete.
[FOR] As above, but this acting vampire takes 1 aggravated damage.

You can even use DtD to get the HoD action through.

c.f. Concordance + Force of Will

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Halcyan 2

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14 mai 2002, 12:43:4714/05/2002
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Normal. A vampire with Heart of Darkness, Armor of Terra, or Concordance treats
*all* aggravated damage as normal. It doesn't matter whether it is during or
after an action.

Halcyan 2

LSJ

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14 mai 2002, 13:34:0014/05/2002
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Correct.

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Chris Berger

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14 mai 2002, 13:52:2014/05/2002
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"Halcyan 2" <halc...@aol.com> wrote in message
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I think he was asking if using Daring the Dawn *on* a Heart of Darkness action
would be kosher. That is, would the Heart of Darkness kick in before DtD's
damage is dealt. I think the answer is yes. That's what GreySeer said, and
I'm inclined to agree with him.


GreySeer

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15 mai 2002, 02:58:4415/05/2002
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"Chris Berger" <ark...@ugcs.caltech.edu> wrote in message
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Yeah, because "after the action" is after the action has resolved, when the
action has resolved the vampire has a HoD and converts the agg to normal.

vermillian

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15 mai 2002, 12:55:4715/05/2002
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"GreySeer" <e...@i.think.not> wrote in message news:<ue2fcp5...@news.supernews.com>...

> The damage is normal.
>
> Name: Heart of Darkness
> [AH, FN]
> Cardtype: Action
> Cost: 2 blood
> Discipline: Serpentis
> [ser] Put this card on the acting vampire. Aggravated damage taken by this
> vampire is changed to normal damage. Any minion may burn this card as a (D)
> action.
> [SER] As above, and this vampire may prevent 1 damage each combat.
>
> Name: Daring the Dawn
> [Sabbat, SW, FN]
> Cardtype: Action Modifier
> Discipline: Fortitude
> [for] Vampires cannot block this action. This vampire takes 2 aggravated
> damage (not preventable) after the action is complete.
> [FOR] As above, but this acting vampire takes 1 aggravated damage.
>
> You can even use DtD to get the HoD action through.
>
> c.f. Concordance + Force of Will

When I theoretically put this deck together, I always had trouble with
card ratioes... I needed stealth the get the heart od darkness's to
succeed... But now I realize, we don't!

All hail HoD/DtD or FoW!

~SV

Marty

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16 mai 2002, 07:24:5816/05/2002
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vermil...@yahoo.com (vermillian) wrote in message news:<f987c6cd.02051...@posting.google.com>...

Check out my deck on Lasombras Tournament Winning Deck Archive. I
fiddled with this loads trying to decide how many Daring the Dawns,
Hearts, Force of Wills and stealth cards to put in.
One thing Matt Green said to me which I totally agree with though,
make sure you maximise your damage with the pre-FoW action before
doing the FoW. If all your first action is gonna be is something
innocuous, like hunting, you may as well just use Governs for bleeds.
That's why I chose Kine Resources Contested.
Then again, I suppose equiping with a Leather would be ok...

Let me know how it goes

Martin

vermillian

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16 mai 2002, 16:05:2816/05/2002
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martin.c...@southbeds.gov.uk (Marty) wrote in message news:<a1d15b7.02051...@posting.google.com>...

It never will go, I can't get enough DtDs to make the deck, nor do I
have the vampire's to add in the Crypt... So barring skill cards,
going with the mostly FoW angle, I'd need stealth for that first
action, etc...

~SV

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