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Tetragrammaton

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18 sept. 2001, 06:41:4918/09/2001
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Hy, some questions

#1:
Beast cannot "perform" action-action cards.
Does this means that he cannot perform action
granted by permanent cards in play?
Say,
Lunatic Eruption, Haven Uncovered (both the +1 stealth rush or "to get rid
of"),
the action to give another the Society of Leopold, etc. ?

Or he just cannot "play" action cards ?

#2:
Allies, on the turn they recruited, cannot "act", and they're considered
controlled even though i put them in my uncontrolled region.
However, can i "use" the ability of such allies i just recruited ?
Say, in the same turn, i recruits a Courier and then i successfully
bleed with another of my minions. Can i tap that courier to use his ability
?
(same pretty question with Vagabond Mystic and Brigitte Gebauer)

#3:
I played (successfully) an Edge Vitiation at superior.
Th EV is still in play when my predator ousts me with a bleed.
How's the timing with the edge gaining?

A) The EV is still in effect when my predator ousts me, so i take (or keep)
the edge thought
i'm ousted, OR

B) The EV burns with my ousting, so my predator takes it anyway, OR

C) Is my predator who choose the timing to handle these effects.

?

Thanks in advance

Emiliano, prnce of Rome

Reyda

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18 sept. 2001, 07:07:2418/09/2001
à

"Tetragrammaton" <nospam_a...@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message
news: NxFp7.6001$Q25.2...@news.infostrada.it...

> Hy, some questions
>
> #1:
> Beast cannot "perform" action-action cards.
> Does this means that he cannot perform action
> granted by permanent cards in play?
> Say,
> Lunatic Eruption, Haven Uncovered (both the +1 stealth rush or "to get rid
> of"),
> the action to give another the Society of Leopold, etc. ?

that the beast can do.

> Or he just cannot "play" action cards ?

That the beast not can do. Beast is too fierce, too impatient. Beast won't
use action cards from hand until beast follows his own path in the Force.


> #2:
> Allies, on the turn they recruited, cannot "act", and they're considered
> controlled even though i put them in my uncontrolled region.
> However, can i "use" the ability of such allies i just recruited ?

Of course, tapped for ability they can.

> Say, in the same turn, i recruits a Courier and then i successfully
> bleed with another of my minions. Can i tap that courier to use his
ability
> ?
> (same pretty question with Vagabond Mystic and Brigitte Gebauer)

Yes, that power they have. Not so weak are the allies. But on the first turn
act they cannot.

> #3:
> I played (successfully) an Edge Vitiation at superior.
> Th EV is still in play when my predator ousts me with a bleed.
> How's the timing with the edge gaining?

The edge you keep with you, serpent of doom. Successful the bleed is, so the
edge you gain. Then ousted you are. This is how the sage LSJ rule would,
think me.

reyda
--
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Yoda

Cartman

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18 sept. 2001, 17:15:0718/09/2001
à

Reyda <re...@noos.fr> wrote in message 9o7a9c$kdv$1...@neon.noos.net...

I see the force is growing faster and faster, mmh?

James Coupe

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18 sept. 2001, 17:24:2418/09/2001
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In message <vPOp7.2652$bf.1...@news.infostrada.it>, Cartman <federico-
ne...@libero.it> writes

>I see the force is growing faster and faster, mmh?

You forgot to re-arrange the sentence.

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LSJ

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19 sept. 2001, 08:42:2819/09/2001
à
Tetragrammaton wrote:
>
> Hy, some questions
>
> #1:
> Beast cannot "perform" action-action cards.

... cannot perform action-card actions.

> Does this means that he cannot perform action
> granted by permanent cards in play?

No. He can. These are not action-card actions.

> Say,
> Lunatic Eruption, Haven Uncovered (both the +1 stealth rush or "to get rid
> of"),
> the action to give another the Society of Leopold, etc. ?
>
> Or he just cannot "play" action cards ?

He cannot play action cards. Nor can he Mask an action taken by another
minion who played an action card.

>
> #2:
> Allies, on the turn they recruited, cannot "act", and they're considered
> controlled even though i put them in my uncontrolled region.
> However, can i "use" the ability of such allies i just recruited ?

Yes.

> Say, in the same turn, i recruits a Courier and then i successfully
> bleed with another of my minions. Can i tap that courier to use his ability
> ?

Yes.

> (same pretty question with Vagabond Mystic and Brigitte Gebauer)

Yes.

>
> #3:
> I played (successfully) an Edge Vitiation at superior.
> Th EV is still in play when my predator ousts me with a bleed.
> How's the timing with the edge gaining?

You're ousted, EV is burned, your predator gets the Edge.
Your minions could also not play Burnt Offerings on your way out, as well.

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Reyda

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19 sept. 2001, 09:10:4419/09/2001
à

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> a écrit dans le message news:
3BA892B4...@white-wolf.com...

> > #3:
> > I played (successfully) an Edge Vitiation at superior.
> > Th EV is still in play when my predator ousts me with a bleed.
> > How's the timing with the edge gaining?
>
> You're ousted, EV is burned, your predator gets the Edge.
> Your minions could also not play Burnt Offerings on your way out, as well.

Okay. I am at 2 Pool, played Edge Vitiation. I have the edge. My predator
bleeds me for 1. I let it pass, forgetting that his vampire has put a spying
mission on me. So he burns the Spying mission to kill me with +2 bleed. But
!! the bleed is already successful (so spying mission can kick in) so i
still got the edge due to Edge vitiation. Please explain me the difference
with the case above ?!

reyda


LSJ

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19 sept. 2001, 09:22:4719/09/2001
à

The Edge is not gained until the pool is lost.
Spying Mission is applied before the pool is lost.

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