Archon vote
Jozxyqk
on the vampire, or does the card go to the ash heap?
I'm pretty sure that the official ruling is that the cards go to the
ash, even though I've seen people put the card on the vamp to remember
its new title..
It's important for a deck that I'm working on, with Carlotta and/or
the Sargon Fragment to possibly retrieve Archon votes and keep calling
them on different vampires.
Thanks.
Jack Crow
LSJ
> Jozxyqk <jfeu...@eecs.tufts.edu> wrote:
> >When votes such as Archon or Praxis Seizure pass, do you put the card
> >on the vampire, or does the card go to the ash heap?
>
Correct.
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Jason Bell
"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote
> Jack Crow wrote:
> > Jozxyqk <jfeu...@eecs.tufts.edu> wrote:
> > >When votes such as Archon or Praxis Seizure pass, do you put the card
> > >on the vampire, or does the card go to the ash heap?
> >
> > Goes to ash.
>
> Correct.
Yuck.
Was this an accident of card text or by game design?
I can't imagine why you would intentionally make a deckmaster
game where bookkeeping is required outside of life totals,
when it could be easily avoided.
Consider how much simpler the game could be merely by using
an alternate rule, and especially since other cards already stay in
play instead of going to the ash heap.
Oh well, that may be a house rule that never comes into alignment
with tournament rules, as I have no desire to require pen and paper
for Jyhad games, in addition to the cards, dice, and various blood
counters I already need.
- Jason Bell
LSJ
>
> "LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote
> > Jack Crow wrote:
> > > Jozxyqk <jfeu...@eecs.tufts.edu> wrote:
> > > >When votes such as Archon or Praxis Seizure pass, do you put the card
> > > >on the vampire, or does the card go to the ash heap?
> > >
> > > Goes to ash.
> >
> > Correct.
>
> Yuck.
> Was this an accident of card text or by game design?
It is a function of card text.
I don't have any design information on the base set cards, sorry.
James Coupe
Bell <Jason...@mail.com> writes
>Consider how much simpler the game could be merely by using
>an alternate rule, and especially since other cards already stay in
>play instead of going to the ash heap.
The current card text allows for recycling of the card, as necessary,
and was clearly the case when cards such as Carlotta and Whispers were
designed (i.e. this facet of the card being burned is not something we
realised just last week).
You'll also find many players tend to keep such cards lingering round
for consultation anyway, so that people can find burn clauses etc., and
when ash-heap effects come into play, they're fairly vigilant about
noting "This is in my ash heap."
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Jozxyqk
> game where bookkeeping is required outside of life totals,
> when it could be easily avoided.
External bookkeeping in this game reaches far beyond these vote
cards. Incriminating Videotapes, Canopic Jars, deflected
Spying Missions, "owned" Corruption Counters,... there's a lot
to keep track of.
I don't mind it so much.
I was just double-checking, since it's commonly represented by
putting the card onto the minion, even though there's no text on
the card to reflect this. It is not as big a deal with Praxis
Seizures, since it's not likely you'll go digging through your
ash heap for a Princedom you already have. But with Archons and
Camarilla Exemplaries and Templars and such, it is a significant
difference.
Cameron
Little yellow sticky notes. Write ARCHON on them, if you need to
recycle the card that is.
cameron, using inproper netiquette, sorry James