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Henry Orth

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Sep 4, 2001, 10:35:14 AM9/4/01
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I recently (9/2) sent a post to Mr. Payne expressing MY opinions on what I
have been reading lately, and although this is not word for word, it is
essentially the same:

Although I am new to the Net, within a few weeks I found that Cheif
Tracian's "ramblings" were NOT based in sane reasoning, I therefore merely
blocked his address. I do not agree on what he says, but I will defend his
right to say it.

Censorship has no place in our society. If you do NOT agree with someone's
opinions, you do NOT have to read them, period.

Most of us are somewhere in between the Ultra-Left and Conservative Right. I
feel that both polar ends of this spectrum feed the fire of these debates,
which is THE basis of our society.

MY opinion is that "normal" society has, a good majority, agreed that we
deserve to have the same rights as heterosexuals. True, there are some
states and other political organization that are controlled, for the time
being, by the "moral-majority". But, most of "normal" society sees through
the haze and will, through voting, bring the "true" majorities opinion to
its inevitable conclusion that we deserve those rights, i.e. insurance,
death benefits, marriage, employment... Just through basic odds, the "true"
majority will have it's way, eventually.

Those rights do have a price though! We, who are "out" cannot let those
extreme polar ends get too much control, as it is right now in a few areas.
We have to keep pressure on both sides to see that neither controls the
other. We all have to live together and have RESPECT for each other!

I, as a gay blue-collared man, do get tired of the "moral-majority" telling
me that "I am a sinner and will be damned" yet they are passing a judgement
on me they have no right to. Only God has a right to pass ANY judgement. On
the other hand, I also get tired of the "Ultra-left" activists saying those
"in-your-face" arguements. This stance is only counter-productive to the
"cause".

We, as sane realists must keep these opinions just that, opinions! We cannot
let the "off-the-mark" polar ends to dissuade the majority in the middle
from striving for the inevitable outcome of these debates and censorship is
NOT the answer!

Sane realists THINK before they SPEAK!

Hank Orth <hank...@hotmail.com>

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Chief Thracian

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Sep 4, 2001, 3:17:26 PM9/4/01
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On Tue, 04 Sep 2001 07:35:14 -0700, "Henry Orth"
<hank...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>But, most of "normal" society sees through
>the haze and will, through voting,

That is a dangerous assumption, at best. I have NO faith in our hetero
majority, to actually vote fairly when it comes to gays. In fact,
whenever a gay issue is left up to a vote--like a popularity
contest--we usually lose. Has this changed any? Nope. (The gay
marriage vote in California, and anywhere else, went down in infamy.
I'm sure it would too, in Vermont, if left to a vote...like Hawaii.)

But only time will tell, I guess...though the writing on the wall is
quite obvious to me, though obviously not too many others.

Until I see hetero folks on the streets, hollering alongside us, for
the sake of gay rights...I do not see any change in majority opinion.

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Sean Robertson

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Sep 4, 2001, 3:25:55 PM9/4/01
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Maybe we need to make it more personal to them. Mount a campaign showing
the people who's lives are actually affected by it and try to show that they
are as normal a couple as any straight couple and have every right to the
same things straights have. If people can just keep thinking of them as
"those fags", it'll never change. They've got to start seeing them as
people not all that different from themselves.

If Pat Robertson can show them kissing and raise money to hurt us, we can
surely think of an ad compaign that would help us.

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