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[Heng] Don't you know the Hengband score server?

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Takeshi Mogami

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Feb 23, 2002, 3:54:00 PM2/23/02
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It seems many people don't know existance of the world score server of Hengband.

See here;
http://echizen.s5.xrea.com/heng/eng-hengband/score.html

There is many character dumps and screen shots.
Especialy, the 'newcome' secition is interesting.


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Newsreader

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Feb 25, 2002, 5:08:08 PM2/25/02
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Hello! What does the Neo Tsuyoshi Special potion do?

Is anyone working on an English Hengband FAQ?

Thanks!

Dave

Neo_1061

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Feb 25, 2002, 10:40:37 PM2/25/02
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On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:08:08 GMT, "Newsreader" <bo...@trek.com> jacked
into the Matrix and the following appeared in
rec.games.roguelike.angband:

>Hello! What does the Neo Tsuyoshi Special potion do?

Oh, no.

If it's some kind of joke item/flame, someone's about to feel like a
thousand plasma hounds breathed on them at once. And someone's web
site will get a DMCA complaint -- which will make the ISP pull the
site while they investigate...

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Crusader For Justice

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Feb 26, 2002, 12:50:25 AM2/26/02
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inv...@erehwon.invalid (Neo_1061) wrote in message news:<3c7b033c....@news.primus.ca>...

You know, occasionally I wonder whether you're dominated by
blinding ignorance or whining childishness. It seems, though,
that both traits have learned to work together to produce a
tremendously effective argument for family planning. Kudos.

Ross Morgan-Linial

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Feb 26, 2002, 1:28:11 AM2/26/02
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inv...@erehwon.invalid (Neo_1061) wrote in
news:3c7b033c....@news.primus.ca:

>>Hello! What does the Neo Tsuyoshi Special potion do?
>
> Oh, no.
>
> If it's some kind of joke item/flame, someone's about to feel like a
> thousand plasma hounds breathed on them at once. And someone's web
> site will get a DMCA complaint -- which will make the ISP pull the
> site while they investigate...

Is that supposed to be a joke? I can't tell.

--
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Chris Kern

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Feb 26, 2002, 1:16:20 AM2/26/02
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 03:40:37 GMT, inv...@erehwon.invalid (Neo_1061)
posted the following:

>On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:08:08 GMT, "Newsreader" <bo...@trek.com> jacked
>into the Matrix and the following appeared in
>rec.games.roguelike.angband:
>
>>Hello! What does the Neo Tsuyoshi Special potion do?
>
>Oh, no.
>
>If it's some kind of joke item/flame

It is most likely drawn from some anime or manga. "Neo" is a common
prefix, it doesn't have to refer to you.

-Chris

Peter Seebach

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Feb 26, 2002, 2:02:00 AM2/26/02
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In article <3c7b033c....@news.primus.ca>,

Neo_1061 <inv...@erehwon.invalid> wrote:
>And someone's web
>site will get a DMCA complaint -- which will make the ISP pull the
>site while they investigate...

Just a side note: Bogus complaints can be a felony. IANAL, but definitely
get legal advice before filing a complaint unless you're sure you know what
you're doing.

-s
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Neo_1061

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Feb 26, 2002, 8:07:17 PM2/26/02
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On 25 Feb 2002 21:50:25 -0800, crusaderf...@hotmail.com
(Crusader For Justice) jacked into the Matrix and the following
appeared in rec.games.roguelike.angband:

>inv...@erehwon.invalid (Neo_1061) wrote in message news:<3c7b033c....@news.primus.ca>...
>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:08:08 GMT, "Newsreader" <bo...@trek.com> jacked
>> into the Matrix and the following appeared in
>> rec.games.roguelike.angband:
>>
>> >Hello! What does the Neo Tsuyoshi Special potion do?
>>
>> Oh, no.
>>
>> If it's some kind of joke item/flame, someone's about to feel like a
>> thousand plasma hounds breathed on them at once. And someone's web
>> site will get a DMCA complaint -- which will make the ISP pull the
>> site while they investigate...
>
>You know, occasionally I wonder whether you're dominated by
>blinding ignorance or whining childishness.

You commit the fallacy of false dichotomy. Please take remedial logic
101.

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William Tanksley Google

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Feb 26, 2002, 10:57:31 PM2/26/02
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inv...@erehwon.invalid (Neo_1061) wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:08:08 GMT, "Newsreader" <bo...@trek.com> jacked

> >Hello! What does the Neo Tsuyoshi Special potion do?

> If it's some kind of joke item/flame, someone's about to feel like a


> thousand plasma hounds breathed on them at once. And someone's web
> site will get a DMCA complaint -- which will make the ISP pull the
> site while they investigate...

It would be interesting to see if the DMCA works in Japan. Or against
a non-copyright violation. I also wonder whether barratry can be
reasonably prosecuted across the ocean.

I also wonder whether 'Neo' is a Japanese word with meaning in this
context -- I don't know, but I share your curiosity.

I also am negatively impressed by your opinion of your own flaming
abilities.

-Billy

Chris Kern

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Feb 26, 2002, 11:37:22 PM2/26/02
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On 26 Feb 2002 19:57:31 -0800, wtan...@bigfoot.com (William Tanksley
Google) posted the following:

>I also wonder whether 'Neo' is a Japanese word with meaning in this
>context -- I don't know, but I share your curiosity.

It is fairly common to see it in manga, anime, and video games to mean
something like "future" or "new". "Neo Tokyo" appears in several
anime as a futuristic version of Tokyo. A search for "neo anime" in
google returns 118,000 hits.

My dictionary gives "neo" the definition "neo", i.e. it means the same
thing in Japanese as it does in English.

-Chris

Passenger Pigeon

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Feb 27, 2002, 6:49:40 AM2/27/02
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In article <3c7c6155...@news.newsguy.com>, ke...@grinnell.edu
(Chris Kern) wrote:

and since the game in question contains both a Neo Tsuyoshi Special and
a Tsuyoshi Special, it can be safely assumed that the Neo is a
meaningful prefix rather than any sort of Usenet connection, even
without looking to see how long the potions have been in Hengband and/or
what they're a reference to.

--
William Burke, passeng...@email.com if you say so
"Many people include in their signatures contact information, and perhaps
a joke or quotation." -- Simon Fraser Go Slugs!
http://www.passengerpigeon.net (not com, not org)

Takeshi Mogami

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Feb 27, 2002, 10:09:11 AM2/27/02
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Passenger Pigeon <passeng...@email.com> wrote in message news:<passengerpigeon-1E...@news.la.sbcglobal.net>...

> and since the game in question contains both a Neo Tsuyoshi Special and
> a Tsuyoshi Special, it can be safely assumed that the Neo is a
> meaningful prefix rather than any sort of Usenet connection, even
> without looking to see how long the potions have been in Hengband and/or
> what they're a reference to.

Yes, Chris and William are correct.
We will rename that potion's name from 'Neo Tsuyoshi Special' to
'Neo-Tsuyoshi Special' in the next version.

Mogami

Takeshi Mogami

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Feb 27, 2002, 10:14:04 AM2/27/02
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"Newsreader" <bo...@trek.com> wrote in message news:<cBye8.858$Dv1.3117@rwcrnsc53>...

Just try!
This potion has some use, But we think you dislike
the effect. :]

We will write FAQ or translate on-line help in the
near future. But there is nothing right now.

Mogami

Leon Marrick

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Feb 27, 2002, 8:48:21 PM2/27/02
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Whoa, where'd this come from? This is going way too fast.

Newsreader

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Mar 5, 2002, 2:34:43 PM3/5/02
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> > > On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:08:08 GMT, "Newsreader" <bo...@trek.com> jacked
> > > into the Matrix and the following appeared in
> > > rec.games.roguelike.angband:
> > >
> > > >Hello! What does the Neo Tsuyoshi Special potion do?
> > >

Ok - it looks like it's a big Strength booster is all.

Dave

Barnes

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Apr 10, 2002, 10:05:45 PM4/10/02
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"Neo_1061" <inv...@erehwon.invalid> wrote in message
news:3c7c3159...@news.primus.ca...

> >inv...@erehwon.invalid (Neo_1061) wrote in message
news:<3c7b033c....@news.primus.ca>...
<snip>

> >You know, occasionally I wonder whether you're dominated by
> >blinding ignorance or whining childishness.
>
> You commit the fallacy of false dichotomy. Please take remedial logic
> 101.

I was looking through old posts for information on Heng and I happenned to
notice this thread.

Just as a note, the poster did not state that "Neo_1061" _was_ dominated by
blinding ignorance or whining childishness. In fact, the poster did not
state that there was domination by any force at all. The sentence would be
logically interpreted as a series of two questions: is x dominated by b.i.?
is x dominated by w.c.?

There is no either/or dichotomy presented at all, hence no logical error.

-Brian


Ross Morgan-Linial

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Apr 11, 2002, 1:37:01 AM4/11/02
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"Barnes" <peace...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
news:Zb6t8.22424$QC1.1...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:

> I was looking through old posts for information on Heng and I
> happenned to notice this thread.

Ack. Did you really need to dredge this up? The *cough* discussion is long
over, may it rest in peace.

> There is no either/or dichotomy presented at all, hence no logical
> error.

It's a simple fact that the word 'or', in English, is ambiguous. There are
(at least) four possible meanings when used in a question[1]. Given the
context, it seems that the meaning Neo picked out is the most likely to be
right. And since it is unlikely, at this point, that the original poster
will clarify which meaning was intended, arguing over it now is unlikely to
be productive[2].

HTH, HAND.

[1] "Which one of A or B is true?", "Is at least one of A or B true?", "Is
exactly one of A or B true?", "Is A true? Is B true?"

[2] This is a euphemism for "really stupid and you should know better".

Jonathan Ellis

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Apr 11, 2002, 2:27:02 PM4/11/02
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Ross Morgan-Linial wrote in message ...

>"Barnes" <peace...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
>news:Zb6t8.22424$QC1.1...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>
>> I was looking through old posts for information on Heng and I
>> happenned to notice this thread.
>
>Ack. Did you really need to dredge this up? The *cough* discussion is
long
>over, may it rest in peace.
>
>> There is no either/or dichotomy presented at all, hence no logical
>> error.
>
>It's a simple fact that the word 'or', in English, is ambiguous. There
are
>(at least) four possible meanings when used in a question[1]. Given the
>context, it seems that the meaning Neo picked out is the most likely to
be
>right.

Apart from the fact that, in Neo's case, the correct answer is clearly
"both"...

Jonathan.

Ross Morgan-Linial

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Apr 11, 2002, 4:59:12 PM4/11/02
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"Jonathan Ellis" <jona...@franz-liszt.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in
news:a94ki6$a9b$1...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk:

> Ross Morgan-Linial wrote in message ...
>>"Barnes" <peace...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
>>news:Zb6t8.22424$QC1.1...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:

>>> There is no either/or dichotomy presented at all, hence no logical


>>> error.
>>
>>It's a simple fact that the word 'or', in English, is ambiguous. There
>>are (at least) four possible meanings when used in a question[1]. Given
>>the context, it seems that the meaning Neo picked out is the most
>>likely to be right.
>
> Apart from the fact that, in Neo's case, the correct answer is clearly
> "both"...

My argument stands: the original poster, in context, did imply that exactly
one of the two options given was correct. Since the two options are not
mutually exclusive, Neo's assertion that it was a false dichotomy was
accurate.

Jonathan Ellis

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Apr 11, 2002, 5:04:03 PM4/11/02
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Ross Morgan-Linial wrote in message ...
>"Jonathan Ellis" <jona...@franz-liszt.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in
>news:a94ki6$a9b$1...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk:
>
>> Ross Morgan-Linial wrote in message ...
>>>"Barnes" <peace...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
>>>news:Zb6t8.22424$QC1.1...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>
>>>> There is no either/or dichotomy presented at all, hence no logical
>>>> error.
>>>
>>>It's a simple fact that the word 'or', in English, is ambiguous.
There
>>>are (at least) four possible meanings when used in a question[1].
Given
>>>the context, it seems that the meaning Neo picked out is the most
>>>likely to be right.
>>
>> Apart from the fact that, in Neo's case, the correct answer is
clearly
>> "both"...
>
>My argument stands: the original poster, in context, did imply that
exactly
>one of the two options given was correct. Since the two options are not
>mutually exclusive, Neo's assertion that it was a false dichotomy was
>accurate.

...but for the wrong reason. ;-)

Jonathan.

pelpel

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Apr 12, 2002, 5:56:22 AM4/12/02
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Hello,

"neo" is a known prefix in Japanese, with
exactly the same meaing as the Greek root,
for example:

_neo nachi_ = Neo-Nazi
_neo kemudashi hennooyu_ = A trademark of certain
toiletary product that was sold when I was a child
(about 30 years ago).

But for the first example, it slightly feels like
names of chemical or pharmaceutical products.

_tsuyoshi_ is an ordary male given name, derived from
the Japanese word for "strong".

// pelpel (ka...@sta.att.ne.jp)

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