[F] Report: London Meets Sanity
Sanity
Sanity, your humble organizer of the meet
Astrid, accompanying your humble organizer
Adrian Ogden, banging things loudly and enthousiastically (without
hat!)
GuitarHuw, keeper of the Quotefile and not actually playing guitar
Ped, accompanying Huw and being at her first real meet apparently
Barry, distributor of flyers
Ladylark, being the small girl with curly dark hair
Kimmi, being innocent
Tom, the meet newbie who behaved so well we didn't go through the
ritual bloody painfull stuff (which doesn't necesarily mean he won't
get it at the Green Man, mwuhahahahaha <veg>)
Liz, adding some sexual innuendo and generally high-pitched laughter.
Beaneater, accompanying Liz, adding hair and scottishness Hippo,
adding a bit of pace to the meet during the walking bits
Rhys, and girl who’s name I’ve forgotten, adding to the welshness of
the meet
Eric Jarvis, being the mosh pit
Nattie, adding a corset and laughter even more high-pitched than Liz
Ben, accompanying Nattie and paying for her as well
Ingvar, being the Afpurrer and doing other freaky things with his
body. Not helping in the amount of hair.
It was a light and sunny afternoon in London, when I woke up in
Regent’s Park and decided to go to Angel Station. This was entirely
because people were assuming I was organising a meet. I, of course,
wasn’t really. I was merely the one who said there should be a meet,
as I was in London anyway. The actual organising merely consisted of
listening to people who knew what they were doing and where they were
going, and repeating this in a slightly louder voice.
Arriving at Angel Station a few minutes before the official Start Of
The Meet, some afpers had already gathered - and they barely noticed
me, even. This while I was waving my shiny afp badge around like a
madman. But I’ll assume my girlfriend Astrid was attracting all
attention ;-) I said hello to the gathered bunch of afpers, who in
return said hello to me. So this was all going pretty well. I even
received a present from Hippo, which means that I will now have no
more excuses to not understand rhyming slang :-)
As I still had some people on my list who should still arrive, we
waited till 6pm at the station. Most notably missing were Rocky Frisco
and Eric Jarvis. As Eric had pointed out the restaurant, we figured
he'd be able to find the place on his own. Ladylark was going to join
us later, Barry disappeared to do other stuff so the 15 of us set our
for Chapel Market where the restaurant was supposed to be. We were
guided by Ingvar, who Knew Where He Was Going, so as the organiser I
said "follow him" and my duty was done for the moment.
The restaurant was an Indian vegetarian place which had some very
suitable posters for afpers (at this point I'd like to mention the
orgasmic cucumber, just for the sake of it). I'm sure there's a photo
of it somewhere made by an afper - I know what they're like. The
restaurant did a 3 pound all-you-can-eat, fairly spicy food but
nevertheless tasting good. The sudden appearance of 15 people did
scare them a bit, I think, but they managed to put us all pretty
close together. I don’t know what they put in the food but it didn’t
take long before it was realised a quote file was going to be
necesary. Because I didn’t want to pull out my geektoy all the time,
Huw got together a pen and paper, and kept the Quotefile [1]. I think
people enjoyed themselves, as sounds were produced by some of the
afpers that are too high to be audible for the human ear...And by the
stroking of certain afpers (Kimmi lost a few purity points there...)
As dinner happened, an Eric Jarvis appeared, and joined us. He even
gave me a book, of more than 700 pages even, so thanks in advance for
the sleepless nights this will result in. Later on, Rhys and his
girlfriend disappeared (people kept doing that throughout the meet -
this must be a .uk thing, I think :-p). But soon there was a
Ladylark, who got there through a marvelous demonstration of
globalisation: she sent me an SMS (through .nl of course) asking Huw
(who is Welsh) to call Barry. This did mean Huw had to take his phone
apart to get his SIM card into Ped's phone (hmmm, must remember that
for a horrible pick-up line: "Can I put my SIM into yours, baby
*waggles eyebrows*?") because he had a flat battery. This all worked
and soon a short girl with curly dark hair appeared and ate dinner.
Upon my suggestion to go towards the pub (well, I was the organizer.
Officially), money was thrown towards me which was enough to pay and
we were able to leave. The people Who Knew Where We Were Going
(Ingvar and Eric, apparently) guided us towards the pub, which turned
out to be somewhat more than a short walk from the restaurant. We
were slowed down a bit because Liz couldn't walk as fast due to a
chest infection - or so she said. When she was walking up front (so
we could adjust more easily to her pace) the only thing people could
see was a white blur followed by a blur of afpers trying to keep up.
In the end, I think the fastest walkers where Liz and Hippo, and this
makes one think, doesn't it? I suggest a Sporting Afpmeet so you can
all get some excercise :-p
Arriving at the Hope & Anchor (after about half an hour of walking),
it was already pretty busy. Upstairs turned out to be a pool room and
no sign of live music. A short Toilet Meet took place before the meet
went back downstairs bit by bit where Adrian (with hat) and Barry
were found. The music was going to be in the basement, so this is
where everyone (eventually) went, after some drinks, talk, or lacing
up inna corset. Downstairs even more afpers had vanished (Liz,
Beaneater - where did you go?) and there was a supporting act
playing. Presumably supporting in the way that everything was going
to sound well after this - it's a pity I didn't get a photo of Huw's
facial expression (painfull yet amazed describes it best). The band
after that was even louder, but definitely better than the first. But
we were of course waiting in agony for X-Static. But this also meant
Adrian was still around at the meet and his hat could be tried on by
several people (which, I gathered from other meet photos, is some
kind of custom). Also, at this point, salty liquorice was handed out
with the promise that after the X-Static gig, there would be
stroopwafels. For some reason, some of the afpers didn't seem to like
this black summum of dutch edible culture. Odd.
Finally they climbed the stage, 2 guitarists, a bass guitarist and a
hatless drummer. They gave away a performance that was simply great.
I had already prepared myself with listening to some XTC songs, but
failed to recognize most anyway. Of course the gig contained both [2]
hits, "Senses working overtime" and "Making plans for Nigel". It was
nice to hear them without the oh so 80s sound of the original; it
showed how good these (and the other) songs are, because they sounded
very recent in a way. The members of X-Static must have been proud
and surprised that they even had a mosh pit [3], created by our very
own Eric Jarvis who, by the look of it, really liked the music and
was having a good time. The rest of the meet was staying more at the
back [4], enjoying the music. Unfortunately Astrid was rather tired
(we'd been walking all over London since Friday afternoon) so she sat
at the back a bit - but I can say that she was enjoying the gig as
much as everybody else. She didn't know any of the XTC songs, though,
not even the hits.
After the gig had finished, the Person In Charge Of The Equipment
decided that the sound produced up until that moment wasn't loud
enough and put on some really, really loud music. And it wasn't even
good music...We went outside, and most of the meeters left homewards
or hotelwards with last or near-last buses and trains - after
congratulating Adrian on the excellent performance. The die-hard
afpgroupies that stayed were Kimmi & Tom (who left soon after going
outside), Hippo, Eric, Ingvar, Astrid and me, later joined by Adrian
who had to dismantle and put away some stuff. To celebrate,
stroopwafels were handed out to the meet. They were pressed together
a bit during the flight and the gig, but the small confined space
that was the basement had caused them to warm up a little, which is
just right for stroopwafels [5]. For those wanting more information
on these: <http://www.siroopwafel.nl/> is the url mentioned on the
packing. Ingvar chose this moment to show off some of the more freaky
things he can do with his body. The purring wasn't too bad (I'm still
practicing), but what this man can do with his fingers and thumbs
is....distressing.
All good things come to an end, and so did this meet. Eric kepton
talking for a while with Adrian, while the rest of us walked back to
catch the bus/train. Considering that I'm the organizer, Ingvar was
the last person to leave the Meet [6] (missing his last train).
I hope it was worth the effort and the ear damage (why do those
concerts always have to be so loud?), I hope everyone had as good a
time as Astrid & I did. It was nice to see & hear some of the UK
afpers, I'm glad that newbie Tom and SO's Ped and Astrid enjoyed
themselves. The only thing that lacked at this meet was a decent
marriage proposal, really.
Thanks again to all those visiting, *knuffels* for those that didn't
get one Saturday and actually wanted one, and I'll hope to see you
again sometime!
<cue Vera Lynn "We'll meet again">
I'm doing my best to get this report, any additions and the photos up
on affordable-hedgehogs asap (this Monday night is the target)
Michel
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[1] http://homepage.ntlworld.com/guitar_huw/SanityMeet/quotefile.txt
[2] Apparently, they had more, but people only remember 2
[3] At least, that's the word we use in .nl for the bit before the
stage where people are bouncing and pouncing, and it's English, so
I'll assume you know what I'm talking about.
[4] Though it was such a small basement, that that was nearly the same
as at the front...
[5] But this is no time to geek the proper conditions for eating
stroopwafels ;-)
[6] Counting Astrid would be unfair
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Sherilyn
[...]
> us later, Barry disappeared to do other stuff so the 15 of us set our
> for Chapel Market where the restaurant was supposed to be. We were
> guided by Ingvar, who Knew Where He Was Going, so as the organiser I
> said "follow him" and my duty was done for the moment.
>
> The restaurant was an Indian vegetarian place which had some very
Oh, the one near the top of Chapel Market? It's a good choice for
meets, nice cheap buffet as I recall.
[...]
--
Sherilyn
Leo Breebaart
Sanity <sanityDE...@affordable-hedgehogs.co.uk> writes:
> But we were of course waiting in agony for X-Static. [...] Finally
> they climbed the stage, 2 guitarists, a bass guitarist and a hatless
> drummer. They gave away a performance that was simply great. I had
> already prepared myself with listening to some XTC songs, but failed
> to recognize most anyway.
So am I right in deducing that X-Static is an XTC tribute-band? Suddenly
that name makes a whole lot more sense, and sounds a whole lot less
boy-bandish... :-)
> Of course the gig contained both [2] hits, "Senses working overtime"
> and "Making plans for Nigel". [...] [2] Apparently, they had more, but
> people only remember 2
At least in the Netherlands, those were indeed the only two hits they
ever had. Well, hits... #32 and #22, respectively, or so my trusty copy
of _Hitdossier_ tells me.
Both are still regular 'arbeidsvitaminen' classics, though -- funny how
that sometimes works out. There are number one songs that hardly ever
get played anymore (I mean, from the same '79-'82 period as 'Nigel' and
'Senses', how often do *you* hear (in fact, have you *ever* heard?)
'Cara Mia' by Jay and the Americans, 'Pretend' by Alvin Stardust,
'Aurora' by Nova, or 'I Love Rock 'n Roll' by Joan Jett and the -- no,
wait, scratch that last one...), while you have these other songs that
hardly made a dent in the charts ('Nigel' - #32, 'Whole of the Moon' -
#21, 'The Worker' - #20, 'It Never Rains In Southern California' - #26,
'Instant Replay' - #28 (!!)) yet are still quite well-recognised even
today, twenty-odd years later.
> It was nice to hear them without the oh so 80s sound of the original;
> it showed how good these (and the other) songs are, because they
> sounded very recent in a way.
Songs can only be appreciated once they've been stripped of their
original sound and made to sound 'recent'? Hmph.
Anyways. If you're ever around for a Delftmeet remind me to inflict XTC
on you. I think I probably have one or two or twelve of their CDs lying
around...
--
Leo Breebaart <l...@lspace.org>
Sanity
Leo Breebaart <l...@lspace.org> wrote:
> Sanity <sanityDE...@affordable-hedgehogs.co.uk> writes:
>
> > But we were of course waiting in agony for X-Static. [...] Finally
> > they climbed the stage, 2 guitarists, a bass guitarist and a hatless
> > drummer. They gave away a performance that was simply great. I had
> > already prepared myself with listening to some XTC songs, but failed
> > to recognize most anyway.
>
> So am I right in deducing that X-Static is an XTC tribute-band? Suddenly
> that name makes a whole lot more sense, and sounds a whole lot less
> boy-bandish... :-)
They do: see <http://www.x-static.org/> for details.
[...]
> > It was nice to hear them without the oh so 80s sound of the original;
> > it showed how good these (and the other) songs are, because they
> > sounded very recent in a way.
>
> Songs can only be appreciated once they've been stripped of their
> original sound and made to sound 'recent'? Hmph.
No.
But the fact that it can still sound recent while they stuck pretty
much to the original means it is a timeless song. And I consider this
a good thing.
Not that I have anything in particular agains the 80s sound. I think
in "senses" and "nigel" it's more to do with the voice, rather than
the music anyway.
But, knowing your history, I'm not going to argue about music with you
;-) *cough*goldenearring*cough* [1]
> Anyways. If you're ever around for a Delftmeet remind me to inflict XTC
> on you. I think I probably have one or two or twelve of their CDs lying
> around...
I have already been provided with a selection of songs - but I'll
think of this for the next Delftmeet (go on - you know you can do it
and there's not a lot else to do in November <g>)
Michel
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[1] It's in the afp timeline on LSpace somewhere, should you wonder
about this. It's an enjoyable read, in a way :-) [2]
[2] And it was before my time, but who cares, I just pretend to know
all about it anyway
hippo
Sanity <sanityDE...@affordable-hedgehogs.co.uk> wrote in message news:amo751.3...@news.klijmij.net...
> Attenting, in no particular order:
> It was a light and sunny afternoon in London, when I woke up in
> Regent's Park and decided to go to Angel Station. This was entirely
> because people were assuming I was organising a meet. I, of course,
> wasn't really. I was merely the one who said there should be a meet,
> as I was in London anyway. The actual organising merely consisted of
> listening to people who knew what they were doing and where they were
> going, and repeating this in a slightly louder voice.
Seems about normal for afpmeets <g>
<snip>
>The restaurant was an Indian vegetarian place which had some very
> suitable posters for afpers (at this point I'd like to mention the
> orgasmic cucumber, just for the sake of it). I'm sure there's a photo
> of it somewhere made by an afper - I know what they're like. The
> restaurant did a 3 pound all-you-can-eat, fairly spicy food but
> nevertheless tasting good. The sudden appearance of 15 people did
> scare them a bit,
The resturant was very good : I don't think I've ever eaten so cheaply
in London before.
I tempted to eat there prior to future London meets (if I'm fortunate
enough to get to any) It is on a direct bus route to the GM iirc.
>
> As dinner happened, an Eric Jarvis appeared, and joined us. He even
> gave me a book, of more than 700 pages even, so thanks in advance for
> the sleepless nights this will result in. Later on, Rhys and his
> girlfriend disappeared (people kept doing that throughout the meet -
> this must be a .uk thing, I think :-p).
It does seem to happen ..being of central european extraction, I
think I know what you mean.
<snip>>
> we could adjust more easily to her pace) the only thing people could
> see was a white blur followed by a blur of afpers trying to keep up.
> In the end, I think the fastest walkers where Liz and Hippo, and this
> makes one think, doesn't it? I suggest a Sporting Afpmeet so you can
> all get some excercise :-p
Well, considering I snashed my left kneecap nine months ago, I managed
quite well, surprisingly. First time out on a longish trip for me
without a crutch.
It's achy a little now though but probably done it the world of good,
>
<snip>
> were found. The music was going to be in the basement, so this is
> where everyone (eventually) went, after some drinks, talk, or lacing
<snip>
> Finally they climbed the stage, 2 guitarists, a bass guitarist and a
> hatless drummer. They gave away a performance that was simply great.
Seconded : XTC aren't necessarily my first choice in that line of
music,but the performance was enthusiastic and spirited .
Well done to all concerned.
>
<snip>
>The die-hard
> afpgroupies that stayed were Kimmi & Tom (who left soon after going
> outside), Hippo, Eric, Ingvar, Astrid and me, later joined by Adrian
> who had to dismantle and put away some stuff. To celebrate,
> stroopwafels were handed out to the meet. They were pressed together
> a bit during the flight and the gig, but the small confined space
> that was the basement had caused them to warm up a little, which is
> just right for stroopwafels [5]. For those wanting more information
> on these: <http://www.siroopwafel.nl/> is the url mentioned on the
> packing.
Thanks for bringing them ,they were much appreciated
> I hope it was worth the effort and the ear damage (why do those
> concerts always have to be so loud?), I hope everyone had as good a
> time as Astrid & I did. It was nice to see & hear some of the UK
> afpers, I'm glad that newbie Tom and SO's Ped and Astrid enjoyed
> themselves. The only thing that lacked at this meet was a decent
> marriage proposal, really.
Hehe /me wonders if sanity typed that before Huw and Ped's good news
I've heard louder, much louder, but not in such a comfined environment
Apologies to any afpers who I may have trodden on or squashed inadvertently
By that time the knee was rather getting tired and balance is something
I'm having to relearn.
>
> Thanks again to all those visiting, *knuffels* for those that didn't
> get one Saturday and actually wanted one, and I'll hope to see you
> again sometime!
Well, I think us uk afpers must redouble our efforts to get to .nl
meets after all the support we get from our neighbours across the North Sea.
My resources are somewhat limited at the moment, but hopefully when things
improve I will finally get across.
hippo
--
M.Datko
Leo Breebaart
Sanity <sanityDE...@affordable-hedgehogs.co.uk> writes:
> In article <ampae6$ds6$1...@library.lspace.org>,
>
> > > It was nice to hear them without the oh so 80s sound of the
> > > original; it showed how good these (and the other) songs are,
> > > because they sounded very recent in a way.
> >
> > Songs can only be appreciated once they've been stripped of their
> > original sound and made to sound 'recent'? Hmph.
>
> No.
>
> But the fact that it can still sound recent while they stuck pretty
> much to the original means it is a timeless song. And I consider this
> a good thing.
I suppose I understand what you're getting at -- it's always nice when
something 'works' in a more contemporary arrangement, although I'm not
sure if for me that fact by itself is as much an indicator of
timelessness as it is for you.
But you also seemed to be implying a bit more cause and effect between
the stripping of the old sound and the sounding good *because* it now
sounded recent than I was comfortable with. Hence the hmph.
> Not that I have anything in particular agains the 80s sound. I think
> in "senses" and "nigel" it's more to do with the voice, rather than
> the music anyway.
Well, certainly in 'Senses'. It took me long while to get accustomed to
Andy Partridge's vocal stylings myself. Maybe that's why so many people
first get hooked on XTC (hur hur) by a Colin Moulding song (for me it
was 'Wonderland'). Those tend to be just a bit more conventionally
poppy, and his voice is less threatening as well. Then, once the band's
got your attention that way, you slowly start to be drawn in by the
Partridge songs as well, and before you know it you'll be humming along
and tapping your toes to 'Travels in Nihilon'. :-)
> > Anyways. If you're ever around for a Delftmeet remind me to inflict
> > XTC on you. I think I probably have one or two or twelve of their
> > CDs lying around...
>
> I have already been provided with a selection of songs
Well, yes, but clearly it won't have been *my* selection, so undoubtedly
they'll have left out many of the *really good* must-hear tracks...
> the next Delftmeet (go on - you know you can do it and there's not a
> lot else to do in November <g>)
Nope, for the rest of this year I only expect to attend meets, not
organise them.
--
Leo Breebaart <l...@lspace.org>
Sanity
Leo Breebaart <l...@lspace.org> wrote:
> Sanity <sanityDE...@affordable-hedgehogs.co.uk> writes:
>
> > In article <ampae6$ds6$1...@library.lspace.org>,
> >
> > > > It was nice to hear them without the oh so 80s sound of the
> > > > original; it showed how good these (and the other) songs are,
> > > > because they sounded very recent in a way.
> > >
> > > Songs can only be appreciated once they've been stripped of their
> > > original sound and made to sound 'recent'? Hmph.
> >
> > No.
> >
> > But the fact that it can still sound recent while they stuck pretty
> > much to the original means it is a timeless song. And I consider this
> > a good thing.
>
> I suppose I understand what you're getting at -- it's always nice when
> something 'works' in a more contemporary arrangement, although I'm not
> sure if for me that fact by itself is as much an indicator of
> timelessness as it is for you.
Though we should summon Adrian Ogden for the final vote, it wasn't
really arranged more contemporary. They stuck pretty much to the
original songs, but it sounded a bit more rough, not the polished
produced 80s sound. It was a bit more rock than pop. But they were
basically playing the songs as they were; it just sounded different
because it's live, and because the way music is played has changed.
But they were really cover songs, not adaptations.
And because the songs weren't really changed, that's why I admired the
timelessness of them - because the songs hadn't been changed, yet were
changed.
Ah well, you should've been there I suppose ;-)
> But you also seemed to be implying a bit more cause and effect between
> the stripping of the old sound and the sounding good *because* it now
> sounded recent than I was comfortable with. Hence the hmph.
I didn't mean to say that. Well maybe I did. I do like the original
sound. But when an old song sounds like it could have been from the
present rather than 20 years old, is (IMO) good. As you mentioned
earlier in a bit I snipped, many number 1 hits of those days are now
barely heard, yet other songs are now classics in some way. I think
that has to do with not just memories of the Good Old Days (tm), but
also because those songs have a certain "extra", by being timeless and
still enjoyable in these days.
Michel
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--
"Sanity shall make ye -ing fret"
Leo Breebaart
Sanity <sanityDE...@affordable-hedgehogs.co.uk> writes:
> Though we should summon Adrian Ogden for the final vote, it wasn't
> really arranged more contemporary. They stuck pretty much to the
> original songs
Well, if they played 'Dear God' the way it sounds in the demo I got from
their web site then that would most definitely not qualify as "pretty
much like the original". :-)
> But they were really cover songs, not adaptations.
Okay, I think I get what you're saying.
> And because the songs weren't really changed, that's why I admired the
> timelessness of them - because the songs hadn't been changed, yet were
> changed.
Oooh, Zen.
> many number 1 hits of those days are now barely heard, yet other songs
> are now classics in some way. I think that has to do with not just
> memories of the Good Old Days (tm), but also because those songs have
> a certain "extra", by being timeless and still enjoyable in these
> days.
I certainly like to think that there exists an intangible *something*
that can help explain why some songs remain true evergreens and others
don't, but the more realistic part of my mind is reluctantly forced to
believe that the overall significance of such a quality is nevertheless
probably marginal, at least when compared to such prosaic issues as song
quality (in the more down-to-earth sense), luck, availability, outlier
positions on statistical bell curves, and the occasional well-timed
resurrection for a commercial or a movie soundtrack...
--
Leo Breebaart <l...@lspace.org>
X Kyle M Thompson
> It was a light and sunny afternoon in London
d'oh. i knew there was something i was going to do this weekend...
heigh ho.
Sanity
I knew there was someone that wasn't there...
Michel
reply-to sanity at affordable-hedgehogs dot co dot uk valid
--
Adrian Ogden
>In article <ampker$p7f$1...@library.lspace.org>,
> Leo Breebaart <l...@lspace.org> wrote:
>> Sanity <sanityDE...@affordable-hedgehogs.co.uk> writes:
>>
>> > In article <ampae6$ds6$1...@library.lspace.org>,
>> >
>> > So am I right in deducing that X-Static is an XTC tribute-band?
>> > Suddenly that name makes a whole lot more sense, and sounds a
>> > whole lot less boy-bandish... :-)
We tend to write it X-sTatiC, just to make it clearer. :-)
>Though we should summon Adrian Ogden for the final vote, it wasn't
>really arranged more contemporary. They stuck pretty much to the
>original songs, but it sounded a bit more rough, not the polished
>produced 80s sound. It was a bit more rock than pop. But they were
>basically playing the songs as they were; it just sounded different
>because it's live, and because the way music is played has changed.
>But they were really cover songs, not adaptations.
Wot Sanity said. We've stuck to the original arrangements as far
as possible (pretty easy with the early stuff, which made up the
bulk of that set); any differences were down to the lack of studio
production. We also aimed to capture the feel of XTC as a live
band, so how this will change as we do more of the later stuff
remains to be seen.
But yes, you really should've been there. :-)
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