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Karen

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OK as always from me, this is not a meet report. This is because I
cannot write meet reports. MiQ *very* kindly volunteered to perform the
honours and will be along presently, now that I have the cast list up
for him :] Now that the over excited nomes are finally asleep...

Once again we gathered in the Green Man in sizeable numbers. Plainly it
has something, this place, which combines well with furrin guests to
pull in afpers as it does [g]

Patrick will also be adding his comments, and as many other attendees
who feel the inclination - please add short or long comments, or any
casual observations.

Simon Callan kept a quote file. I would like to point out here and now
that where I am concerned this is a complete fabrication conjured up for
the enjoyment of the audience and that in fact my lips were sealed for
the entire evening and I said not a word. Honest. And any words I didn't
say were taken out of context. OK?

By my reckoning 57 attenders plus one by cellphone, bigger even than the
Entmeet last October [49 attenders]. Leo - eat your heart out, Patrick
is plainly a *far* more attractive proposition in the 'hug a cloggie
stakes':p If you are very nice to him he will tell you how to attract
a real crowd :]

People came early, stayed late until the bar staff were virtually in
pyjamas, and then hung around even longer. Hopefully that is a good
sign...
Assorted Dutch imports were distributed - spekkies, gobstoppers for the
children [inspirational idea that], Martin Wisse, gummy sweets. Tamara
brought Israeli chocolate flakes whose name I forget for the moment.

Karen/Vixen brought tasteful Valentines balloons, and candles in the
shape of sunburned buttocks. [She claimed they were hearts but hey...]

Party invitations were distributed to all present to the AFP 10th
Birthday Bash at the 2002 Convention. More on that to follow...

There were several cellphone moments shared with the Nottingham meet
[gosh how big would that be as a joint meet I wonder?]

Little nomes indulged in persecuting helpless Gideons..

And mostly people seemed to have quite a good time.

So thankyou thankyou to everyone who came and made it successful, hope
that every else enjoyed it as much as we did :]

One last comment to Martin Wisse: Don't think for *one* moment that you
have seen the last of it...

OK on to the cast and apologies for mispellings and if I have missed you
please shout!


THE CAST:

Starring The Visiting Furriners:

Patrick Dersjant from the Netherlands
Martin Wisse, also from the Netherlands [they travel in packs you
know...]
Tamara Rigg over from Israel [now working here as well - heh another one
caught]
Sorcha from Ireland
Penny Parkin from the US [ok semi resident]

Furriners who are now resident in the UK but rapidly running out of
furrinness:

Orjan Westin and Carmilla [sadly without Ann-Cathrin and Ulfie:{]
Carl Emery [Greebo]
Melusine
Arwen Lune
Rand
Tom De Mulder [newest immigrant :]

Locals [aka UK'ers]

Paul Rood and Karen/Vixen
Gideon Hallet
Mchl Grnt, the disemvowelled man
Jonathan Simons
MEG and Geoff
Mac and Biff
Barry R
MiQ who really genuinely volunteered to do the meet report :]
Sandriana
Peter Ellis and Julie *vom* newly engaged complete with rings...[g]
Susan McIver
Hamster and Lady Kayla
Katrina and David
Rob Collier and Ailbhe Leamy
Esmi, Elfin and Kai
David Underdown [happy birthday to you....]
The Bellinghpersons, Alan and Collette
Simon Callan
MegaMole and Kelvix
James Higgins
Thomas Pratchett
Ali Willis [happy birthday for the day before :]
Anejo
Steve Megson
Chris Naden
Janice Wright
Jonathan Amery [Senji]
Eoin
Al
Michael
Rachel
Karen/hypatia

Simes by_Cellphone_all_the_way_from_sunny_Cannes_the_swine


And of course there is always an awkward one who doesn't fit any of the
above having gone in the opposite direction, from the UK to Dublin:

Mike Knell was the special star bonus prize :]


ttfn,

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Colette Reap

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Feb 11, 2001, 6:04:21ā€ÆAM2/11/01
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Karen <Ka...@lspace.org> wrote:

>By my reckoning 57 attenders plus one by cellphone, bigger even than the
>Entmeet last October [49 attenders]. Leo - eat your heart out, Patrick
>is plainly a *far* more attractive proposition in the 'hug a cloggie
>stakes':p If you are very nice to him he will tell you how to attract
>a real crowd :]
>

Methinks, holding the meet on a Saturday night helps :-)

>Party invitations were distributed to all present to the AFP 10th
>Birthday Bash at the 2002 Convention.
>

They were? We didn't get one. <pout>

>So thankyou thankyou to everyone who came and made it successful, hope
>that every else enjoyed it as much as we did :]
>

Thank _you_ very much for arranging it.

>OK on to the cast and apologies for mispellings

<snip>


>The Bellinghpersons, Alan and Collette

^^^^^^
Apology accepted, especially as, according to the header, you posted
this at gone half past two in the morning and _I_ have trouble
spelling my name at that time of night :-)

It really was great to see you all - hope everyone got home safely.

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Simon Callan

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Feb 11, 2001, 6:33:14ā€ÆAM2/11/01
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In message <KrMJrsHR...@goodgulf.demon.co.uk>
Karen <Ka...@lspace.org> wrote:

> Simon Callan kept a quote file. I would like to point out here and
> now that where I am concerned this is a complete fabrication
> conjured up for the enjoyment of the audience and that in fact my
> lips were sealed for the entire evening and I said not a word.
> Honest. And any words I didn't say were taken out of context. OK?

I wouldn;t say it wasa quote file. It;s just when people come up with
comments like 'I have this thing about handcuffs, and being tied up',
how can you resist writing them down, publishing them around the
world?

Simon

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jester

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Feb 11, 2001, 8:52:51ā€ÆAM2/11/01
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On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 11:33:14 +0000, Simon Callan
<si...@callan.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>I wouldn;t say it wasa quote file. It;s just when people come up with
>comments like 'I have this thing about handcuffs, and being tied up',
>how can you resist writing them down, publishing them around the
>world?
>

You could show a little self-restraint.

And maybe just keep the information for later use

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Michael dot Grant

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Feb 11, 2001, 12:41:37ā€ÆPM2/11/01
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jester wrote:

> On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 11:33:14 +0000, Simon Callan wrote:
> >
> >when people come up with
> >comments like 'I have this thing about handcuffs, and being tied up',
> >how can you resist writing them down, publishing them around the
> >world?
>
> You could show a little self-restraint.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
*snort*

mmfn,
Roadrunner
(Hoping for better luck with modem number two...)

Kincaid

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Feb 11, 2001, 1:35:47ā€ÆPM2/11/01
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In article <e279204b...@satin.callan.demon.co.uk>,

> I wouldn;t say it wasa quote file. It;s just when people come up with
> comments like 'I have this thing about handcuffs, and being tied up',
> how can you resist writing them down, publishing them around the world?

Supermouse; "I can get out of handcuffs by dislocating my thumb"

Kincaid; "why not just use the safe word like everyone else..."

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Martyn Clapham

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Feb 11, 2001, 2:23:43ā€ÆPM2/11/01
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In article <KrMJrsHR...@goodgulf.demon.co.uk>, Karen
<Ka...@lspace.org> writes

[ snip ]

>And of course there is always an awkward one who doesn't fit any of the
>above having gone in the opposite direction, from the UK to Dublin:
>
>Mike Knell was the special star bonus prize :]

Actually a little lateral thinking would have given you the answer to
this.

Geographically Eire is part of the British Isles, but as mpk is no
longer in the UK he's technically a furriner.

So you could have changed UK to British Isles in the description of one
of the groups that covered the 'furriners' and put him in there.

Mart - wondering if mpk is actually quite pleased to be described as
awkward. :-))
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Simon Callan

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> Simon Callan kept a quote file. I would like to point out here and
> now that where I am concerned this is a complete fabrication
> conjured up for the enjoyment of the audience and that in fact my
> lips were sealed for the entire evening and I said not a word.
> Honest. And any words I didn't say were taken out of context. OK?

Having tantalised people with a single extract from the quote file, I
have a few more contributions to add. I did not maintain a full quote
file, just odd comments that attracted my attention.

I have this thing about handcuffs, and being tied up - Karen.

You're a sort of group mummy, aren't you? - Mole 2 Karen.

I've already done Simes. Karen.

You can put your hand up his bum. MEG

Peter's had his hand up his bum. MEG, but a deliberate attempt to be
quoted.

Simon

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Simon Callan

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Feb 11, 2001, 1:53:23ā€ÆPM2/11/01
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In message <slrn98d69j...@jester.jester.nu>
use...@jester.nu (jester) wrote:

> On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 11:33:14 +0000, Simon Callan
> <si...@callan.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > I wouldn;t say it wasa quote file. It;s just when people come up
> > with comments like 'I have this thing about handcuffs, and being
> > tied up', how can you resist writing them down, publishing them
> > around the world?
> >
>
> You could show a little self-restraint.

Nah, you really need two for that.

> And maybe just keep the information for later use

Never worth it. By the time it becomes useful, I've usually forgotten
all about it.

Simon

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esmi

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Feb 11, 2001, 4:51:50ā€ÆPM2/11/01
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On 11 Feb 2001, Karen <Ka...@lspace.org> wrote

<snip>


Now that the over excited nomes are finally
>asleep...

I see you had the same problems that we did.
<fx: thinks: Gawd! We have a 14 month old party animal!>

>Once again we gathered in the Green Man in sizeable numbers. Plainly
>it has something, this place, which combines well with furrin guests
>to pull in afpers as it does [g]

Lemme see....food, alcohol, space for hugging and trying out bouncy
balls and toy aeroplanes...

Yep...you could be right. :-)

>Simon Callan kept a quote file.

This may have something to do with the fact that I kept well away. It
wasn't personal, Simon. Honest! ;-)

<snip>

>Assorted Dutch imports were distributed - spekkies,

I would like to take the opportunity to point out that spekkies are
called "Flumps" in these here parts. And here was I expecting something
all furrin' and exotic and I got Flumps!

> gobstoppers for
>the children [inspirational idea that],

'cept I don't recall them actually working. What I *do* recall was
being offered the chance to examine a number of part-sucked gobstoppers
in order to dutifully exclaim at the changes in colour.....

>Martin Wisse, gummy sweets.

The liquorice-flavoured ones? I *liked* those!

>Tamara brought Israeli chocolate flakes whose name I forget for the
>moment.

I demand to know why we didn't have Peter demonstrating how to eat
them?

>Karen/Vixen brought tasteful Valentines balloons, and candles in the
>shape of sunburned buttocks. [She claimed they were hearts but
>hey...]

Poor Vixen. She still has hopes of educating afp as to matters of
taste. ;-)

<snip>

>Little nomes indulged in persecuting helpless Gideons..

*giggle*

One little nome in particular was too small to actually persecute
Gideon *this* time. However there was a wonderful moment when his
frantic toddling brought him up close to Gideon's right leg. At which
point he looked up...and up....and up...

Have you ever seen a toddler look boggled. I have. *grin*

>And mostly people seemed to have quite a good time.
>So thankyou thankyou to everyone who came and made it successful,
>hope that every else enjoyed it as much as we did :]

Thank you, Karen, for organising the whole thing. You have made my two
"meet newbies" very happy. ;-)

esmi
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Karen Hanna Kruzycka

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In article <2179484b...@satin.callan.demon.co.uk>,
si...@callan.demon.co.uk says...

> I have this thing about handcuffs, and being tied up - Karen.

Funny, I don't remember saying that.



> You're a sort of group mummy, aren't you? - Mole 2 Karen.

Or that.



> I've already done Simes. Karen.

And certainly not that!


But while I'm here, many thanks to the lovely Karen/Hypatia for waving
the wand once again, and magicking a wonderful meet into existence.
Thank you faerie faerie much.

Karen/Vodka Vixen
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Ailbhe Leamy

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On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 02:37:05 +0000, Karen <Ka...@lspace.org> wrote:

> Locals [aka UK'ers]


> Rob Collier and Ailbhe Leamy

OI.

Melusine got into the furriners list, and she's been here _far_ longer
than I have. Jaysis.

Ailbhe
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Not typing, honest.

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elfin

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Miq wrote
[snip]
> As closing time drew near more people started to take
> their leave, in greater or lesser degrees of tearfulness,
> depending on how much they'd had to drink. I left with
> Mole and Vic, as we were going the same way, in high
> spirits and good time to catch another amazingly
> punctual train. The rain had stopped altogether now,
> and the night was warm; even outside London, the walk
> home was quite pleasant.

Seems like a good place to mention what happened on our way from the
meet.

We struggled up the stairs carrying one buggy with tired out Kai, into
the main bar. We were greeted with a chorus of 'ahhhhs' from the
Turkish(?) contingent. As we made our way to the door this changed to a
not so quiet 'shhhh'.

> So thanks to Karen for organisation, to Peter for
> entertainment, to the kids for beating one another
> roundly with balloons .....[snip]

AOL!
A special thanks to the nomes for not bumping into Kai, he enjoyed
himself immensely, and we had to practically force him to go to sleep.


I'm sorry if I didn't get to speak to many that attended, but a lot of
the time I was being walked around the bar. Grabbing my drink whenever I
passed it..

Also there was no mention of meet newbies. Strange as it may seem but I
was actually one of 'em! If we discount the CCDE's and the 98 Con. My
meet of a few years ago only had 3 attendees.

Mind you karen's response to this was : You're not a newbie


elfin
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Lady Kayla

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On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:22:12 +0100, Patrick Dersjant <pat...@lspace.org> wrote:
>a - a scroll of news from Karen.
>Read it? y

[...]
>> THE CAST:
[...]


>> Furriners who are now resident in the UK but rapidly running out of
>> furrinness:

[...]
>I'd say Ailbhe goes into this category as well, as does Lady Kayla.

That's a difficult call to make. I was born in Germany, and lived
there for 3 years, then spent then next 7 years in UK, then spent 3
years in Canada, then 3 years in UK, then 16 years in Oztraylia, then
back to the UK again a few years ago. I don't think of myself as a
furriner unless I don't speak the local lingo (not counting the odd
differences in word usage) :)

[...]


>> Mike Knell was the special star bonus prize :]
>

>Oh yes, of course. There's always Mike.

Mike is likely to hate me forever for this, but... I was watching Spin
City last night, which I have watched on and off for years, and it
suddenly occured to me that James is Mike *g*

Sorry Mike.
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Steve Megson

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"Karen" <Ka...@lspace.org> wrote in message
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> So thankyou thankyou to everyone who came and made it successful, hope
> that every else enjoyed it as much as we did :]

I'd like to join the various others who beat me to it in thanking Karen for
organising the meet, and to assure her that I did indeed enjoy it very much.

Also, my photos of the evening are now online at
http://www.geocities.com/stevenmegson/afp/10-02-2001/index.html

Steve


Arwen LunƩ

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On the day of Sun, 11 Feb 2001 02:37:05 +0000, Karen pointed up to
the castle and said in a dramatic voice:

> Patrick will also be adding his comments, and as many other attendees
> who feel the inclination - please add short or long comments, or any
> casual observations.

Just adding the bits freshly fished off the psion...

> By my reckoning 57 attenders plus one by cellphone, bigger even than the
> Entmeet last October [49 attenders].

And indeed, my list also counts 57 people, though after plugging
it into excel it turned out that it contains entries like 'MEG
nome 1' and 'Karen nome 2'
We do apologise - at some point I lost count on what nome is who
and whose ;-)

> One last comment to Martin Wisse: Don't think for *one* moment that you
> have seen the last of it...

Oh, don't doubt it one moment..

On with my reporty bit:

Notts meet is phoned, toys are geeked, people are climbed by kids,
balloons are played with, photo's are made, drinks are consumed..
Kai runs around the pub on a leash (to keep him from crawling
under tables maybe?)
'Longtusk' is admired by Tamara & Roadrunner (they urge me to add
that they were admiring the comments, not the book).
Various people obsess over drop and spekkies. Ali's pie is
attacked until it's dead.
Backrubs are given. A possible newbie is discovered to be standing
lost and confused at the bar. ('Shall we point him toward the clue
fairies?)
Corsets are shown off, compared and geeked.

10:30 - people start leaving. I am introduced to 'The London
Posse' ie. the people one can phone on a Saturday afternoon who
will turn up for a meet in the evening.

We end up home, without crasher this time.
It could be me, but I don't find it very polite to request
crashspace, have someone go through a lot of trouble to arrange
it, and then not to turn up. It's a bit offputting for the people
who offered help.

Some quotes here:

Mole 'I don't want to eat it, I just want to feel it'
Paul: 'I'm just going to give Tom one'
Chris N: 'at this point I was wearing fishnets and a garterbelt'

Thus ends the scribble.

Arwen LunƩ
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The door were slowly pulled open, to reveal a pile, now 7
foot high, of Arwen's weapons, with the warrior herself sat
on top.
[Sir Confused-a-lot on AFT]

Karen Hanna Kruzycka

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In article <AIIXcPAB...@kew1.demon.co.uk>, Mi...@kew1.demon.co.uk
says...

> ren 2, as she later insisted on being known,

I think I was Racheled (just after being Carmilla'd, and shortly
before being Racheled again). :) Karen K is just fine.

> came baring^Wbearing buttocks, in the form of wee "heart"-shaped
> candles, which were distributed and gave a merry romantic glow to the
> gathering. This was short-lived in the case of our table, because
> immediately thereafter someone else handed round balloons, and some
> Sensible person decided that balloons and candles don't mix.

The candles were deemed sufficiently tacky for the meet by myself and
James, when we went Valentine's-tat-shopping that afternoon.

In fact it was we who bought the balloons too: thinking that they'd be
played with by the nomes, while the candles would be enjoyed by the
adults... you'd think I'd know how AFPers are after 6 years of being
here, wouldn't you? :o)

As well as balloons, bumcandles and heart-shaped sweeties, we
distributed invitations to the AFP Birthday Bash at the Convention. A
sumptuous e-version of this can be found at
http://www.dwcon.org/afp_party.php3

Karen/Vodka Vixen (anyone seen any brightly-coloured mini-PostIts,
lost at the meet?)

Simon Callan

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Karen Hanna Kruzycka <vi...@lspace.org> wrote:

> In article <2179484b...@satin.callan.demon.co.uk>,
> si...@callan.demon.co.uk says...
> > I have this thing about handcuffs, and being tied up - Karen.
>
> Funny, I don't remember saying that.
>
> > You're a sort of group mummy, aren't you? - Mole 2 Karen.
>
> Or that.
>
> > I've already done Simes. Karen.
>
> And certainly not that!

It's amazing the things that people will say at meets, and then
totally deny all knowledge of. :)

Simon

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The Flying Hamster

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On 12 Feb 2001 17:09:57 GMT, Lady Kayla <lady...@suespammers.org> wrote:
>On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:22:12 +0100, Patrick Dersjant <pat...@lspace.org> wrote:
[...]
>>> Furriners who are now resident in the UK but rapidly running out of
>>> furrinness:
[...]
>That's a difficult call to make. I was born in Germany, and lived
[...]

>furriner unless I don't speak the local lingo (not counting the odd
>differences in word usage) :)

Or you make a habit of getting the local currency wrong, no it's not
dollars here ;)

[...]


>Mike is likely to hate me forever for this, but... I was watching Spin
>City last night, which I have watched on and off for years, and it
>suddenly occured to me that James is Mike *g*

*snigger*

I'll never look at mpk in the same light again :)

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cynic's eyes to improve his vision.

MEG

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Karen wrote in message ...
<bigsnip>

>So thankyou thankyou to everyone who came and made it successful,
>hope that every else enjoyed it as much as we did :]
<bigsnip>

Karen,

May I, Geoff, BIFF (Rebecca) and MAC (Paul) [1] just add our own vote
of grateful thanks for a truly enjoyable event. The evening had a
really relaxed atmosphere. Strangers met and nodded/smiled/hugged
depending on their preference [2]; it was just *so* simple to find,
even *I* couldn't get lost and there was a comfortable mix of people
we'd met before, people we'd only ever read on afp and completely new
faces and names.

Whilst ankle biters aren't everyone's cup of tea, I have to add a
further note of thanks for consideration given to including such
creatures as this is obviously quite important to those of us so
afflicted. I hope no-one was too inconvenienced by their inclusion - I
think they mostly had a good time with the balloons and the
colouring, though I think maybe the Bursar's version of Pooh
Bear on dried frog pills started a worrisome trend ;)

To anyone who's reading this and thinking "I'd quite like to meet some
of the other people on afp - they sound like fun" but who are also
thinking "I don't know anyone, I'd feel like a fool" I'd like to
encourage you to take the plunge. It's well worth those few first
tentative steps and if you simply bring along a soft toy with a
history, you're made!

And if you're fortunate enough to attend a meet organised by Karen,
your satisfaction is assured.

Respect is due, we are not worthy.

btw, what's the equivalent of "the cheque's in the post" when
referring to digital photos and getting round tuits? There are lots of
photos but it would be unkind to just throw them on the site without
explanation.

[1] Mom's got a stupid 'net name - why not us?
[2] I keep hearing a phrase in my head: "Cloggies I have hugged".

Best,
- MEG

* "2002: A Discworld Odyssey" * August 16th-19th, 2002 -

Martyn Clapham

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In article <MPG.14f259161...@news.iol.ie>, Sorcha
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>Martyn Clapham wrote...

[ snip ]

>> So you could have changed UK to British Isles in the description of one
>> of the groups that covered the 'furriners' and put him in there.
>>
>

>Ah, but for a start that would mean that Ailbhe, Melusine nor myself
>would qualify as furriners of any description. <pout>

I'm sorry but you've mis-understood my comment.

The only bit I suggested changing was the UK bit, not the furriners bit.

As the geographical area covers two countries it is possible to be a
'furriner' without moving outside it.

Mart - getting paranoid over the lack of people who get his jokes. :-((

Tachyon

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On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:57:34 +0000, Martyn Clapham wrote in article
<VBY1TDAu...@mclapham.demon.co.uk>:

>The only bit I suggested changing was the UK bit, not the furriners bit.
>
>As the geographical area covers two countries it is possible to be a
>'furriner' without moving outside it.
>
>Mart - getting paranoid over the lack of people who get his jokes. :-((

Just to give you something to be really worried about Mart,
exactly what do you think the reaction of our sheep-worrying brethren
[1] is going to be when they realise you don't count their beloved Cymru
as a country? <G>

[1] not to mention sistren (Hi Medusa!)

Mark Barltrop aka Tachyon
--
tac...@tachyonuk.com ICQ UIN13415498
The question seldom addressed is *where* Medusa had snakes.
Underarm hair is an even more embarrassing problem when it keeps
biting the top of the deodorant bottle.-- (Terry Pratchett, Soul Music)

Mike Knell

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Sorcha <su...@esatclear.ie> wrote:
>Not to repeat what has already been gone through on the afparty list,
>but the proper name for this country when you are speaking English is
>plain old 'Ireland', or 'Republic of..' if you need clarification. Mike
>himself has a rather useful (if convoluted...) set of definitions, which
>he may post or provide a link to.

Seeing as you asked so nicely, it's appended. Yes, there are a couple of
errors in there. Yes, they're deliberately left as an exercise for the
reader. Of course.

(cut)

For anyone who didn't know, here's the quick summary of Different Bits
Of These Here Islands:

The British Isles: Those islands off the northwest coast of Europe.
Great Britain: The larger of the British Isles - "lesser Britain" is, I
believe, Brittany in France.
Ireland: The second largest island. However, also:
Ireland: The state comprising the 26 counties of the southern part of
Ireland (plus Donegal, which extends around the edge of the North),
including outlying islands.
Northern Ireland: The six counties of Armagh, Antrim, Down, Fermanagh,
Tyrone and Derrystrokelondonderry. Administratively part of the United
Kingdom, or not, depending on who you ask.
Ulster: The six counties mentioned above, plus a couple of others
(Donegal, Monaghan, Cavan) that are part of the Republic. One of the
ancient four provinces of Ireland. Also..
Ulster: Colloq. term for the Six Counties. Technically incorrect.
The Republic: See "Ireland" above. Also a pile of Platonic dialogues,
which is convenient, as "platonic dialogue" just about sums up
Anglo-Irish relations over the past few years.
Eire: Irish for "Ireland". Not the official name of the country, but a
widespread synonym for it in both British and US English. Deprecated.
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland: The country
comprising the kingdoms of England and Scotland (see below), plus
Wales (a principality, I believe) and Northern Ireland.
England: The southern part of the island of Great Britain, except for
Wales which although subject to English law is a seperate part of
the UK. Oh, don't forget the Isle of Wight. Also:
England: Synonym for "the UK". Generally only used by the English.
Scotland: The northern part of the island of Great Britain, which has
a different legal system to England but is constitutionally part of
the UK. Also includes numerous islands and island groups offshore.
Scotland: Everything north of Luton, as far as most of Southeast
England is concerned.
Britain: Technically the island of Great Britain, but can also mean
anything you want it to depending on the origin and/or political views
of the user. The Falkland Islands would have no problem describing
themselves as "part of Britain". Very frequently used as a synonym for
"the UK", geographical pedantry notwithstanding.
Europe: When used in the UK, and particularly in England, this can
mean either "the area of the Eurasian landmass extending as far
east as the Urals", "the fifteen states of the EU", or "France". It
may or may not include the British Isles, depending on how pedantic
the user is being. Users may be out-pedanted by those who point out that
the British Isles are part of the European continental shelf.
Isle of Man, Jersey, Guerney, Alderney, Sark: Don't even ask. Really.

m.

Mike Knell

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lady...@suespammers.org wrote:
>Mike is likely to hate me forever for this, but... I was watching Spin
>City last night, which I have watched on and off for years, and it
>suddenly occured to me that James is Mike *g*

I have no idea what this means. This is worrying.

m.

Martin Wisse

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On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 02:37:05 +0000, Karen <Ka...@lspace.org> wrote:

(Some loose remarks, more structured comments to follow -ed)

>Assorted Dutch imports were distributed - spekkies, gobstoppers for the
>children [inspirational idea that], Martin Wisse, gummy sweets. Tamara
>brought Israeli chocolate flakes whose name I forget for the moment.

Oy gevalt! I'm a Dutch import now? Not aware that I was being
distributed though...

>And mostly people seemed to have quite a good time.

Certainly did, even if I was a bit more subdued then normal at a meet -
comes from having to leave Amsterdam on a coach at 22:30 the night
before to arrive at around 6:30 in London, then being dragged all over
the city.

>So thankyou thankyou to everyone who came and made it successful, hope
>that every else enjoyed it as much as we did :]

Anmd thank you for organising it and arranging crashspaceabove and
beyond the call of duty.

>One last comment to Martin Wisse: Don't think for *one* moment that you
>have seen the last of it...

What with there being soo many worthy contestants in the UK I'm not
worried.

>Starring The Visiting Furriners:
>
>Patrick Dersjant from the Netherlands
>Martin Wisse, also from the Netherlands [they travel in packs you
>know...]

There's no truth to the rumour that I'm stalking him.

Martin Wisse
--
By 2000 we were supposed to have computers bright enough to argue
with us, but that doesn't mean the way Word does it.
-Jo Walton-

Martin Wisse

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On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:33:05 +0000, Miq <Mi...@kew1.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>Ańejo left early (I hope she changed before going outside, but you never
>know), and the volume of leather in the room dropped significantly. I
>spent part of the evening touting for jobs (thanks, G&M, for your
>helpfulness on that front), which allowed me to justify the evening on
>my household budget sheet. Other good moments included playing with
>MEG's walking, talking e-puppy, and Sheringham, a cuddly bear who, much
>to his own misfortune, has a hole up his bottom big enough to insert a
>hand. Naturally, when demonstrated before minds as direct and deviant
>as Mole's, this led to much inappropriate behaviour involving a purple
>dinosaur. It took the best part of half an hour to calm the poor bear
>down.

Sorry, but I have to correct this dangerous piece of misinformation. It
wasn't a "purple dinosaur", it was a black with light brown spots
brontosaur[1], who looked nothing AT ALL like the B'harne and certainly
does not sing "I love you/you love me...".

Early this selfsame brontosaur was led on a leash by a dominantrix teddy
bear so was a bit confused afterwards.

Yes, yet another tasteful afp meet.

[1] not to be confused with brontesore, when you have been reading
_Wuthering Heights_ one time too many.

Martin Wisse
--
Oh my Lord, *that's* what cricket commentary is; it's the English radio
version of rasseff.
-Alison Hopkins, rasseff

Martyn Clapham

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Feb 13, 2001, 3:31:46ā€ÆPM2/13/01
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In article <pp6h8toc6l0ob822v...@4ax.com>, Tachyon
<tac...@hit-reply.com> writes

>On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:57:34 +0000, Martyn Clapham wrote in article
><VBY1TDAu...@mclapham.demon.co.uk>:
>
>>The only bit I suggested changing was the UK bit, not the furriners bit.
>>
>>As the geographical area covers two countries it is possible to be a
>>'furriner' without moving outside it.
>>
>>Mart - getting paranoid over the lack of people who get his jokes. :-((
>
>Just to give you something to be really worried about Mart,
>exactly what do you think the reaction of our sheep-worrying brethren
>[1] is going to be when they realise you don't count their beloved Cymru
>as a country? <G>
>
>[1] not to mention sistren (Hi Medusa!)

OK, so maybe I forget to put 'more than' in there.

Let's see ( In order from the north ).

Scotland,
England[1],
Ireland[2],
Northern Ireland,
Isle of Man[3],
Wales.

That's 6 so far.

Mart.

[1] I wonder how many folk outside the British Isles know that the
England / Scotland border runs roughly North-east / South-west?

[2] This is position is based on my very sketchy knowledge of geography
and comments in Mike Knells post in another branch of this thread.

[3] Semi-independent. For example IOM stamps are not interchangeable
with UK ones.

Martyn Clapham

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Feb 13, 2001, 4:31:40ā€ÆPM2/13/01
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In article <3aa59a84...@news.demon.nl>, Martin Wisse <mwisse@ad-
astra.demon.nl> writes

[ snip ]

>[1] not to be confused with brontesore, when you have been reading
>_Wuthering Heights_ one time too many.
>
>Martin Wisse

Thwap!

Baaad Martin! :-))

Mart.

ps Thanks for pointing out that you got included in the list of
'distributed items' shown in the meet report. I missed it the first time
I read it! :-)

sandriana

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Feb 13, 2001, 5:45:09ā€ÆPM2/13/01
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On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:30:01 GMT, mwi...@ad-astra.demon.nl (Martin
Wisse) wrote:


>
>>And mostly people seemed to have quite a good time.

I had an absolutely brilliant time, only my second meet and didnt know
anyone but i was made to feel very welcome

>Certainly did, even if I was a bit more subdued then normal at a meet -
>comes from having to leave Amsterdam on a coach at 22:30 the night
>before to arrive at around 6:30 in London, then being dragged all over
>the city.

In as far as you could be subdued...
>

>Anmd thank you for organising it and arranging crashspaceabove and
>beyond the call of duty.

Particular thanks to Gideon and Melusine ( I'm forever in your debt
for Rodge n Podge and Dustin) and Lady Kayla and Hamster for
generously providing crashspace to Martin and myself. A couple of
unexpected statements from LK and H's children Katrina and David
should really go in the quotes file, but I'd rather not embarass them
at this formative stage in their lives...


>>Patrick Dersjant from the Netherlands

The man with the Poulain....

>>Martin Wisse, also from the Netherlands [they travel in packs you
>>know...]

I hugged _three_ cloggies, and one cloggie more than once. It was big
fun.

--

Sandriana
---------
"Take Two Parts Sand, One Part Girl, And Stir"
SJ Perelman, 'The Most of SJ Perelman'


bernd.reh

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Feb 13, 2001, 8:17:53ā€ÆPM2/13/01
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(Sorry in advance for quoting more than commenting myself...)
Miq wrote:
>
>When I finally sat down, the first thing that drew my eye was a teddy
>bear. Now, I knew that cuddly toys are pretty much de rigueur at meets,
>but something about this one was not so much cuddly as... studded.
>Maybe because of the mask it was wearing, or the thong, but I suspect
>that what really caught my attention was the leather bra. It is always
>slightly unnerving to know that one is in the presence of sick minds -
>although, of course, I've grown accustomed to it over the past three
>years.
>

Up to the 'leather bra' I thought you've spotted Ppint!

>--
>Miq


Bernd

--
2002 - The year of the Hedgehog


The Flying Hamster

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On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:22:12 +0100, Patrick Dersjant <pat...@lspace.org> wrote:
[..]
>Unfortunately, we had to leave relatively early. However, I left my Tux
>in place, cunningly concealing a microcamera and recorder <g>. The ploy
>worked; it is now on its way back - thanks to Barry for taking it with
>him, to Hamster for letting me know its whereabouts without even asking
>for a ransom, and to Martin for bringing it through customs, therefor

Hmmm... good he hasn't discovered the horrible payload I installed yet..

To know recursion, you must first know recursion.

Martin Wisse

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On 14 Feb 2001 22:30:23 GMT, hamster...@nospam.wibble.org (The
Flying Hamster) wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:22:12 +0100, Patrick Dersjant <pat...@lspace.org> wrote:
>[..]
>>Unfortunately, we had to leave relatively early. However, I left my Tux
>>in place, cunningly concealing a microcamera and recorder <g>. The ploy
>>worked; it is now on its way back - thanks to Barry for taking it with
>>him, to Hamster for letting me know its whereabouts without even asking
>>for a ransom, and to Martin for bringing it through customs, therefor
>
>Hmmm... good he hasn't discovered the horrible payload I installed yet..

Who are you trying to kid Mark, you've never touched the critter.

I never knew that Tuxes were filled up with baking powder though, made a
nice cake.

Martin Wisse
--
"Jeez, do you have to be *that* lazy? You just broke the fourth wall."
"Well, don't expect me toget it repaired anytime soon."
-Absurd Notions: <http://cerulean.st/absurdnotions/page22.html>

ruthi

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On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 , Miq <Mi...@kew1.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>Saturday night, the time when no sane adult would be seen in central
>London. Still, I thought, that leaves more room for afpers.


Sanity is overrated, anyway :o)

>Some of the more hardcore attendees were there before me, and it gave me
>a shock to realise that I recognised nearly all of them. This could
>only mean that I've become an Old Fart.

Or an experienced meeter.
Me, I recognize people in new meet pictures from previous meet pictures,
being geographically disadvantaged. ;(
I am grateful to all who put meetpictures up on the web,
and thank especially the people who provide names to go with the faces.

And meet-attenders:
Just because I haven't met you, doesn't mean I don't know what you look like...
Mwahahahahaha!


><snip beleathered teddy>It is always


>slightly unnerving to know that one is in the presence of sick minds -
>although, of course, I've grown accustomed to it over the past three
>years.

8<snip>8
>Even more
>disturbingly, some bright pink handcuffs seemed to have appeared from
>somewhere.


But were they *fluffy* pink handcuffs?


>MEG, a born rebel, elected to sit in the *other* four-fifths of the
>room, which naturally caused the party to widen a little. She, Geoff,
>Biff and Mac had been spending the day industriously touring London
>(it's hard work, but someone's got to do it) to collect landmarks for
>Rocky, who apparently has more space than he knows what to put in it...


So Rocky is the person who *can* have everything,
because he knows where to put it?


>So thanks to Karen for organisation, to Peter for entertainment, to the

>kids for beating one another roundly with balloons (sparing us adults
>the trouble), to A?ejo and Susan for the... memorable outfits, to MEG
>for her Helpful (sic) Suggestion as to how I could constructively occupy
>my time,

What did she suggest? EMWTK![1]

>and to all those (Sorcha and Sandriana spring to mind) who came
>a ridiculous distance to be there, and to everyone for their company.
>Thanks to all the Happy Couples for their remarkable restraint at this
>alleged "Valentine's" meet. And above all, thanks to the stunning Ruthi
>for meaning that, for once, I didn't have to be jealous of them.


After waiting an appropriate length of time, to see that no-one was *vom*ming:
That's *me*, that is! *preen* *glow*
*drag Miq off somewhere private*


[1]Enquiring Minds Want To Know

-Ruthi


The Flying Hamster

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Feb 16, 2001, 5:00:35ā€ÆAM2/16/01
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On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 23:02:18 GMT, Martin Wisse <mwi...@ad-astra.demon.nl> wrote:
>On 14 Feb 2001 22:30:23 GMT, hamster...@nospam.wibble.org (The
>Flying Hamster) wrote:
[...tux...]

>>Hmmm... good he hasn't discovered the horrible payload I installed yet..
>
>Who are you trying to kid Mark, you've never touched the critter.

*growl* spoiling my attempts at warping minds...

The Seventh Commandment for Technicians: Work thou not on energized equipment,
for if thou dost, thy fellow workers will surely buy beers for thy widow
and console her in other ways.

Steve Megson

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Feb 16, 2001, 12:30:59ā€ÆPM2/16/01
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"ruthi" <rru...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3a8b...@news.bezeqint.net...

> Me, I recognize people in new meet pictures from previous meet pictures,
> being geographically disadvantaged. ;(
> I am grateful to all who put meetpictures up on the web,
> and thank especially the people who provide names to go with the faces.

I have finally found time to bung a little form at the bottom of my photos
page[1] allowing visitors to suggest captions for the photos, whether they
be just to put names to faces, or loaded with innuendo (on afp? surely
not?). I must admit that this is partly for my benefit too since even having
been there there are faces I can't put names to.

Steve

[1] which still resides at
http://www.geocities.com/stevenmegson/afp/10-02-2001/index.html


Martin Wisse

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Feb 16, 2001, 2:49:28ā€ÆPM2/16/01
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On 16 Feb 2001 10:00:35 GMT, hamster...@nospam.wibble.org (The
Flying Hamster) wrote:

>On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 23:02:18 GMT, Martin Wisse <mwi...@ad-astra.demon.nl> wrote:
>>On 14 Feb 2001 22:30:23 GMT, hamster...@nospam.wibble.org (The
>>Flying Hamster) wrote:
>[...tux...]
>>>Hmmm... good he hasn't discovered the horrible payload I installed yet..
>>
>>Who are you trying to kid Mark, you've never touched the critter.
>
>*growl* spoiling my attempts at warping minds...

Well yeah. Is my job.

Martin "if I wasn't so pure, sweet and innocent of course" Wisse

Karen

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Feb 17, 2001, 9:05:36ā€ÆAM2/17/01
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Colette Reap <col...@lspace.org> writes
>Karen <Ka...@lspace.org> wrote:
>

>>Party invitations were distributed to all present to the AFP 10th
>>Birthday Bash at the 2002 Convention.
>>
>They were? We didn't get one. <pout>

nah me neither <double pout> but in fact the kids had more fun
navigating around it on the Convention web site than with the paper
version < g>. [Yes I am referring to the under 18 type kids here...]


>>OK on to the cast and apologies for mispellings
><snip>
>>The Bellinghpersons, Alan and Collette
> ^^^^^^
>Apology accepted, especially as, according to the header, you posted
>this at gone half past two in the morning and _I_ have trouble
>spelling my name at that time of night :-)
>

arghh after all this time...can I blame the software please? Trouble
with doubles?


>It really was great to see you all - hope everyone got home safely.
>
I'd mutter darkly about trains at this point, but I'll only upset
Mike 'yes I can recite the entire train timetable for Western Europe,
sad bastard that I am' Knell. :}


ttfn,

--
Karen/hypatia Ka...@lspace.org
** AFP will be 10 years old in 2002 **
Want to come to a world wide party?
http://www.lspace.org/fandom/afp/afparty/

Karen

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Feb 17, 2001, 9:05:47ā€ÆAM2/17/01
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In article <2179484b...@satin.callan.demon.co.uk>, Simon Callan
<si...@callan.demon.co.uk> writes
>In message <KrMJrsHR...@goodgulf.demon.co.uk>
> Karen <Ka...@lspace.org> wrote:
>
>> Simon Callan kept a quote file. I would like to point out here and
>> now that where I am concerned this is a complete fabrication
>> conjured up for the enjoyment of the audience and that in fact my
>> lips were sealed for the entire evening and I said not a word.
>> Honest. And any words I didn't say were taken out of context. OK?
>
>Having tantalised people with a single extract from the quote file, I
>have a few more contributions to add. I did not maintain a full quote
>file, just odd comments that attracted my attention.

<hard stare>


>

>I have this thing about handcuffs, and being tied up - Karen.

I'd like to point out the context here, that we were actually referring
to the fact that I am slightly claustrophobic in such situations but I
suspect that when in a hole I should stop digging...


>I've already done Simes. Karen.
>

I'll definitely stop digging.

Karen

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Feb 17, 2001, 9:05:59ā€ÆAM2/17/01
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In article <Xns9045DB8C5E3...@elfden.co.uk>, esmi
<es...@lspace.org> writes
>On 11 Feb 2001, Karen <Ka...@lspace.org> wrote
[..]

>>Simon Callan kept a quote file.
>

>This may have something to do with the fact that I kept well away. It
>wasn't personal, Simon. Honest! ;-)
>

Hah! After having arrived supplied with said pink handcuffs. Slightly
used even...:p

><snip>


>

>> gobstoppers for
>>the children [inspirational idea that],
>

>'cept I don't recall them actually working. What I *do* recall was
>being offered the chance to examine a number of part-sucked gobstoppers
>in order to dutifully exclaim at the changes in colour.....
>

gods I'd forgotten that. In fact they lasted during our interminable
journey home - periodic contortions to ensure I could see any colour
changes. [I do love trains honest, just not at nearly 1:00 am with
tired, over excited, heavy nomes to carry on a freezing night with no
information forthcoming [grrr]]


>>Karen/Vixen brought tasteful Valentines balloons, and candles in the
>>shape of sunburned buttocks. [She claimed they were hearts but
>>hey...]
>
>Poor Vixen. She still has hopes of educating afp as to matters of
>taste. ;-)
>
lost cause really. But its nice to see youthful optimism untarnished eh?


>>And mostly people seemed to have quite a good time.

>>So thankyou thankyou to everyone who came and made it successful,
>>hope that every else enjoyed it as much as we did :]
>

>Thank you, Karen, for organising the whole thing. You have made my two
>"meet newbies" very happy. ;-)

And *that* is one of the most important things - any lurking would be
meet newbies, please do dive on in next time. Fresh blood and all
that...

Karen

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Feb 17, 2001, 9:06:19ā€ÆAM2/17/01
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In article <AIIXcPAB...@kew1.demon.co.uk>, Miq
<Mi...@kew1.demon.co.uk> writes
>On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, Karen <Ka...@lspace.org> wrote
>>MiQ *very* kindly volunteered
> ^^^^
>*ahuUUUurrmm* You misspeeled "was".
>

Is it my fault if you don't step back fast enough??

OK I confess to having subjected MiQ to my sickliest smiles, but we have
a great meet report as a result - many thanks :]

Next time I know where to go...

>Karen takes her meets extremely seriously.

Yer dead right - its a serious business this having_fun_
with_lots_of_people :]

>By my recknyng[1], this one
>had at least three official and two unofficial ANNOUNCEments, and more
>e-mails than I could count.


Yes detritus :p


>(If you like, Karen, I've heard of this guy
>who can sell you *millions* of e-mail addresses for next time...)

Ah you mean that friend of Hamster's? The one hanging in his Back
Office?

> The
>last meet she arranged was populated by an International Attendance and
>some eight hundred civilians (in a pub designed for maybe 150), so my
>expectations were high this time.

I'm booking Wembley Stadium next time...


>Karen had booked us the downstairs room, but apparently this went
>against the afper grain, because when I arrived, the dozen-odd attendees
>before me had gravitated firmly towards a raised area at one end of the
>room, and throughout the evening, the population density up there was at
>least double that in the rest of the room.

Yes its funny really - it must be the incredible magnetism of afpers.

> The room itself had a large
>clear area in front of the bar, like a nightclub, which provided a
>useful space for the kids to beat one another without spilling anyone's
>drinks.

Or the repellent qualities of the children :]


>
>Some of the more hardcore attendees were there before me, and it gave me
>a shock to realise that I recognised nearly all of them. This could

>only mean that I've become an Old Fart. The downstairs bar, to my
>dismay, had no ale, which meant that I spent part of the evening running
>up and down the stairs. Which was probably good for me.

Definitely - it was a key consideration in the choice of the venue, I
even think of your health you see :} Actually someone [Colette?] also
told me that the Guiness was very good there. Not being an expert I bow
to the opinions of others but decent Guinness and Green King seemed OK
for most requirements even without cherries on sticks.


>More people arrived. Karen 2, as she later insisted on being known,


>came baring^Wbearing buttocks, in the form of wee "heart"-shaped
>candles, which were distributed and gave a merry romantic glow to the
>gathering.

There of course there were the gummy sets of teeth [more dutch sweets],
which were promptly used to encircle the butt^Wcandles. The combination
was named, I'm blowed if I can remember the precise title given now.


>MEG, a born rebel, elected to sit in the *other* four-fifths of the
>room, which naturally caused the party to widen a little. She, Geoff,
>Biff and Mac had been spending the day industriously touring London
>(it's hard work, but someone's got to do it) to collect landmarks for
>Rocky, who apparently has more space than he knows what to put in it...

He lives in Oklahoma...
>
>One of the many attractions of the pub was that it served food, but this
>was a bit of a disappointment. The menu, on a Saturday, turned out to
>involve chips, pies, chips, fish and chips - and the pies were regarded
>with such misgivings that, every so often, one would appear as if
>ordered, and everybody would studiously refuse to claim it. I had the
>fish.
>

This was definitely unfortunate. Apparently the regular chef was ill,
and a relief chef was on duty. This meant that only a restricted menu
was available. Presumably he had only memorised the microwave
instructions for a few culinary delights.

But I have to say I thought the dubious looking pies were very
appropriate somehow.


> See Karen's post for a full cast list - I'm sorry, I
>really *didn't* see everybody, or recognise everybody I did see.

Even I didn't get around to everybody this time, so I echo that
sentiment.



>So thanks to Karen for organisation, to Peter for entertainment, to the
>kids for beating one another roundly with balloons (sparing us adults

>the trouble), to AƱejo and Susan for the... memorable outfits, to MEG


>for her Helpful (sic) Suggestion as to how I could constructively occupy

>my time, and to all those (Sorcha and Sandriana spring to mind) who came


>a ridiculous distance to be there, and to everyone for their company.
>Thanks to all the Happy Couples for their remarkable restraint at this
>alleged "Valentine's" meet. And above all, thanks to the stunning Ruthi
>for meaning that, for once, I didn't have to be jealous of them.
>


he throws in casually at the end...thank *you* for writing it up for us,
and maybe enticing lurking would be meeters into the lair :]

Karen

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Feb 17, 2001, 9:07:10ā€ÆAM2/17/01
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In article <96jo8a$6bt$1...@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>, Steve Megson
<sm...@cam.ac.uk> writes

>"ruthi" <rru...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:3a8b...@news.bezeqint.net...
>> Me, I recognize people in new meet pictures from previous meet pictures,
>> being geographically disadvantaged. ;(
>> I am grateful to all who put meetpictures up on the web,
>> and thank especially the people who provide names to go with the faces.

I'd like to echo those comments - they provide a 'window' in for
hesitators and others who simply cannot be there. Like the reports, they
open it up to more people. I know this myself...


>
>I have finally found time to bung a little form at the bottom of my photos
>page[1] allowing visitors to suggest captions for the photos, whether they
>be just to put names to faces, or loaded with innuendo (on afp? surely
>not?). I must admit that this is partly for my benefit too since even having
>been there there are faces I can't put names to.
>
>Steve
>
>[1] which still resides at
>http://www.geocities.com/stevenmegson/afp/10-02-2001/index.html
>

I reckon I can identify most of them for you, I'll try get some sent
back soon, and thanks for putting them up!

Karen

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Feb 17, 2001, 9:06:42ā€ÆAM2/17/01
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In article <MPG.14f251eaf...@news.demon.co.uk>, Karen Hanna
Kruzycka <vi...@lspace.org> writes
>> came baring^Wbearing buttocks, in the form of wee "heart"-shaped
>> candles, which were distributed and gave a merry romantic glow to the
>> gathering. This was short-lived in the case of our table, because
>> immediately thereafter someone else handed round balloons, and some
>> Sensible person decided that balloons and candles don't mix.
>
>The candles were deemed sufficiently tacky for the meet by myself and
>James, when we went Valentine's-tat-shopping that afternoon.
>

No blaming James! I know you love this stuff really, is this a good
moment to raise the subject of fridge magnets...?

>In fact it was we who bought the balloons too: thinking that they'd be
>played with by the nomes, while the candles would be enjoyed by the
>adults... you'd think I'd know how AFPers are after 6 years of being
>here, wouldn't you? :o)
>

The triumph of optimism over experience? Misplaced I grant you but nice
to see nonetheless...:]


>As well as balloons, bumcandles and heart-shaped sweeties, we
>distributed invitations to the AFP Birthday Bash at the Convention. A
>sumptuous e-version of this can be found at
>http://www.dwcon.org/afp_party.php3
>

nome #1 wants to know who is going to be the monkey for the pinning of
bananas.

nome #2 is primarily interested in the party bag. [sigh].

Me, I'll just anticipate the unveiling of bofho...heh.

>Karen/Vodka Vixen (anyone seen any brightly-coloured mini-PostIts,
>lost at the meet?)

Can I offer you a couple of excited bright pink nomes in their place?

Karen

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Feb 17, 2001, 9:07:28ā€ÆAM2/17/01
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In article <969l9p$lel$1...@library.lspace.org>, MEG
<blac...@unseen.idps.co.uk> writes

[..]


>
>btw, what's the equivalent of "the cheque's in the post" when
>referring to digital photos and getting round tuits? There are lots of
>photos but it would be unkind to just throw them on the site without
>explanation.

nah - just put them up and add captions later, otherwise they will sit
on the todo list forever. Well they would if it were me. Martin took
pictures also, so that will make more for Patrick to link to when the
meet page is ready :]


>
>[1] Mom's got a stupid 'net name - why not us?
>[2] I keep hearing a phrase in my head: "Cloggies I have hugged".
>

Better than 'Cloggies I have mugged?'

dragon prince

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Feb 18, 2001, 12:49:06ā€ÆAM2/18/01
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"Karen" <Ka...@lspace.org> wrote in message
news:EEz6rbKb...@goodgulf.demon.co.uk...

> In article <AIIXcPAB...@kew1.demon.co.uk>, Miq
> <Mi...@kew1.demon.co.uk> writes
> >On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, Karen <Ka...@lspace.org> wrote
> >>MiQ *very* kindly volunteered

> >Karen takes her meets extremely seriously.


>
> Yer dead right - its a serious business this having_fun_
> with_lots_of_people :]

one of these days I will get to a meet you have organised

>
> This was definitely unfortunate. Apparently the regular chef was
ill,
> and a relief chef was on duty.

I hope it was not food poisoning

> But I have to say I thought the dubious looking pies were very
> appropriate somehow.
>
>
> > See Karen's post for a full cast list - I'm sorry, I
> >really *didn't* see everybody, or recognise everybody I did see.
>
> Even I didn't get around to everybody this time, so I echo that
> sentiment.
>

at large meets does one ever. I'm sure that my list of the Dragon
meet [1] doesn't include everyone but I know that after ccde I
nearly doubled your(Karen) list of afpers present


[1] a private list honest I never posted a meet report for that
one, some people will be relived to hear!


dragon prince

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Feb 18, 2001, 12:56:55ā€ÆAM2/18/01
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"Karen" <Ka...@lspace.org> wrote in message
news:PUG4$6KOWo...@goodgulf.demon.co.uk...

> In article <96jo8a$6bt$1...@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>, Steve Megson
> <sm...@cam.ac.uk> writes
> >"ruthi" <rru...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:3a8b...@news.bezeqint.net...
> >> Me, I recognize people in new meet pictures from previous meet
pictures,
> >> being geographically disadvantaged. ;(
> >> I am grateful to all who put meetpictures up on the web,
> >> and thank especially the people who provide names to go with
the faces.
>
> I'd like to echo those comments - they provide a 'window' in for
> hesitators and others who simply cannot be there. Like the
reports, they
> open it up to more people. I know this myself...
> >


meet reports are a good thing especially with photos [and no this is
not a permission to post them to afp]

I know Karen has paid me a great compliment in the past when she has
written a report to whit for a report you require an afphantom a
martin or a Brett( yep my real name for those who don't know) but I
do find it nice that for those meets I cant get to I can share in
the fun in a vicarious manner

So if you do go to a meet then please contribute ether by posting a
report or by sticking some photos on a wibble site and letting
others know they are there

Dragon Prince
--
afpmarried to Tamara


Flesh-eating dragon

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Feb 19, 2001, 7:43:30ā€ÆAM2/19/01
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Karen wrote:

> And *that* is one of the most important things - any lurking would be
> meet newbies, please do dive on in next time. Fresh blood and all
> that...

Feeling thirsty, huh?

8'FED.

Miq

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Feb 20, 2001, 5:36:47ā€ÆAM2/20/01
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On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Karen <Ka...@lspace.org> wrote
>OK I confess to having subjected MiQ to my sickliest smiles, but we have
>a great meet report as a result - many thanks :]
>
>Next time I know where to go...

My freelance rates are very reasonable. Considering. ;o)

>>By my recknyng[1], this one
>>had at least three official and two unofficial ANNOUNCEments, and more
>>e-mails than I could count.
>
>Yes detritus :p

Now I'm struck with the image of Detritus organising an afpmeet...

"You will be coming to da meet, won't you? You was dere last time. You
said you'd come. You *will* be dere, everybody heard you say it. If
der person with der crash space does not turn up der whole meet, and I
mean dis, der *whole* meet will be round to dere house afterwards to
*count* at dem."

--
Miq

Flesh-eating dragon

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Feb 20, 2001, 6:06:26ā€ÆAM2/20/01
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Miq wrote:

> Now I'm struck with the image of Detritus organising an afpmeet...
>
> "You will be coming to da meet, won't you? You was dere last time. You
> said you'd come. You *will* be dere, everybody heard you say it. If
> der person with der crash space does not turn up der whole meet, and I

^^^^


> mean dis, der *whole* meet will be round to dere house afterwards to
> *count* at dem."

You mispeled 'wid'.

<applause> LOL.

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