[F] Meeting Mary Meet, Durham, October 13th
Jenny Radcliffe
Firstly, I'd like to make a big, huge apology for leaving this
notice so thoroughly late. As some of you may know, I've suffered
from depression for a few years now, and it's just done a
spectacular coming-back job. To the extent that the Doctor is now
saying she thinks I might spend the rest of my life on
anti-depressants. That in itself I can cope with - no side effects
or tolerance problems, and infinitely better after all than living
with the depression! - but I'm struggling a bit with the concept
that I'm stuck forever with the stigma of mental health problems. So
I've been a bit absorbed, and totally forgot about Meet Details.
So. I have had to take into consideration a few things when thinking
through this meet. One is that I've been singularly unsuccessful in
finding crash-space [1], another that the Ingenious Paradox has a
small sprog to add to the equation[2]. So what I've got planned is
fairly fluid and largely day-time, with the potential to extend.
I propose that we meet in a cafe for lunch. Say about 12:30 or 1.
For preference, I suggest the Students' Union cafe, because it's big
enough for as many people as turn up, it's reasonably priced, and
they won't bat an eyelid if people walk in with soft toys[3]. Only
I've forgotten to check whether it's open on a Saturday at the
moment ... I shall do that tomorrow. For now, though, let's assume
it is.
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?P2M?P=DH13AN&Z=1 (recombine
if necessary) shows the location of the concrete monstrosity that is
the Students' Union building, and in the top left corner of this map
you will observe Station Approach, where the, er, railway station
is. I shall confirm this bit ASAP!
Following lunch, our choices depend on the weather, inclination,
volume of people, screamingness of sprog, what colour socks the
person at the next table is wearing, anything. We could:
1. Take out wee boats on the Wear
2. Take a cruise on the Prince Bishop, the big boat on the Wear.
3. Toddle around some touristy bits of Durham going "ooh" and
telling Urban Legends of Durham life.
4. Migrate to a drinking establishment to gossip, chat, partake of
chocolate and ale, whatever
5. Any or all of the above or anything else we feel like.
When we get hungry again, there are a few nice and reasonable
establishments - perhaps a pub-with-food (show Mary Pub Grub?) or
one of the Chinese All You Can Eat Buffets ... I suggest we decide
at the time.
And then any of us who are still alive and bouncy can re-migrate to
a further drinking establishment ...
I know of several people who are intending to be present ... I know
of a few people who regrettably can't be ... but this is My Plan.
I will be confirmatory at you tomorrow about the Lunch Location.
Scream suggestions at me if you like ...
Jenny,
falling asleep as she types.
[1] We can probably arrange college rooms at not much charge, but I
have a housemate just out of hospital and another who hates there
being guests in the house, and the Uni are being most unreasonable
about guests atm.
[2] I am *insistent* that she should join us none-the-less, and for
my taste, I'll be delighted if she brings said infant.
[3] They're quite used to people wandering in in leather corsets and
swords, owing to Durham's active Live Role Play society. My killer
bunny of death and Edwin's Tux are *nothing*.
Mary Messall
> Hi there,
> Firstly, I'd like to make a big, huge apology for leaving this
> notice so thoroughly late. As some of you may know, I've suffered
> from depression for a few years now, and it's just done a
> spectacular coming-back job. To the extent that the Doctor is now
I'm so sorry, I didn't realize... Have a virtual *hug* for now, until I
see you and inflict a real one on you.
> http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?P2M?P=DH13AN&Z=1 (recombine
> if necessary) shows the location of the concrete monstrosity that is
(It is *officially* a monstrocity, and not, say, a horror, an
embarrassment, a mistake, or a nightmare.)
> person at the next table is wearing, anything. We could:
> 1. Take out wee boats on the Wear
> 2. Take a cruise on the Prince Bishop, the big boat on the Wear.
> 3. Toddle around some touristy bits of Durham going "ooh" and
> telling Urban Legends of Durham life.
I don't know many of these yet, is it all right if I just make some up?
> establishments - perhaps a pub-with-food (show Mary Pub Grub?) or
As long as it doesn't have gravy on it. I'm officially getting myself
declared vegetarian (I'm not normally, but I will be here) so that I
don't have to eat any of the things the college has drowned in gravy
ever again.
Anyway, I shall definitely be there, because I'm very keen on Meeting
Mary myself... I don't think we've ever been introduced.
-Mary
--
{I drank at every vine. / The last was like the first. / I came upon
no wine / So wonderful as thirst.} {"Heaven bless the babe!" they said
"What queer books she must have read!"} -two by Edna St Vincent Millay
http://indagabo.orcon.net.nz --> my soapbox and grandstand and gallery
Andrew Gray
> Only I've forgotten to check whether it's open on a Saturday at the
> moment ... I shall do that tomorrow. For now, though, let's assume
> it is.
http://www.dur.ac.uk/DSU/about-dsu/index.php3?p=union-building&pt=The%20Union%20Building
Kingsgate's open on Saturday from twelve on; Riverside doesn't seem to
be.
> http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?P2M?P=DH13AN&Z=1 (recombine
> if necessary) shows the location of the concrete monstrosity that is
> the Students' Union building, and in the top left corner of this map
> you will observe Station Approach, where the, er, railway station
> is. I shall confirm this bit ASAP!
If anyone wants met at the station, I'm more than happy to volunteer;
I'm about five minutes away at a slow walk.
> When we get hungry again, there are a few nice and reasonable
> establishments - perhaps a pub-with-food (show Mary Pub Grub?) or
> one of the Chinese All You Can Eat Buffets ... I suggest we decide
> at the time.
A housemate & I are currently gearing up to conduct extensive research
into the two (and coincidentally get out of cooking dinner), but the new
one seems the best according to preliminary findings. With the other,
though, you get lemon chicken occasionally...
--
-Andrew 'dreading labs tomorrow' Gray
shim...@bigfoot.com
Martyn Clapham
<jenny.r...@physics.org> writes
>Hi there,
>
>Firstly, I'd like to make a big, huge apology for leaving this
>notice so thoroughly late. As some of you may know, I've suffered
>from depression for a few years now, and it's just done a
>spectacular coming-back job. To the extent that the Doctor is now
>saying she thinks I might spend the rest of my life on
>anti-depressants. That in itself I can cope with - no side effects
>or tolerance problems, and infinitely better after all than living
>with the depression! - but I'm struggling a bit with the concept
>that I'm stuck forever with the stigma of mental health problems. So
>I've been a bit absorbed, and totally forgot about Meet Details.
Quite understandable.
>Jenny,
>falling asleep as she types.
Yeah, well you probably wont get much over the weekend! :-))
Anyway, as I will be in Durham from about 6.30pm on Friday, consider
this my public announcement of attendance.
Mart.
--
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http://www.lspace.org/ Having fun on afp from 1996
My own website is http://www.mclapham.demon.co.uk/index.htm
Afpengaged to Mary Messall and being afpadulterous with Spooky.
Kincaid
Mary Messall <m.k.m...@durham.ac.uk> wrote:
> As long as it doesn't have gravy on it. I'm officially getting myself
> declared vegetarian (I'm not normally, but I will be here) so that I
> don't have to eat any of the things the college has drowned in gravy
> ever again.
But but but then you won't be able to have _real_ bangers n mash, made
with proper lincolnshire sausages and ooodles of onion gravy.
--
Kincaid Labs
Tampering in God's domain since 1975
Paul S. Brown
>In article <3BC4DF3D...@durham.ac.uk>,
> Mary Messall <m.k.m...@durham.ac.uk> wrote:
>> As long as it doesn't have gravy on it. I'm officially getting myself
>> declared vegetarian (I'm not normally, but I will be here) so that I
>> don't have to eat any of the things the college has drowned in gravy
>> ever again.
>
>But but but then you won't be able to have _real_ bangers n mash, made
>with proper lincolnshire sausages and ooodles of onion gravy.
>
Onion Gravy? URGH WHY???
No problem with Beef gravy, but Onion Gravy manages to ruin everything.
Lincolnshire and Cumberland sausages have a very nice taste all their own,
which my less than discerning palate finds is obliterated by Onion
smegging gravy.
Ah well, what else can I expect from the country who invented HP Sauce?
Paul
Off to have some very nice Lorne sausage for lunch - lorne the Scottish
hamburger!
--
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Being paid to be a geek is a state of utopia
- p...@geekstuff.co.uk
Sandriana
(Paul S. Brown) wrote:
>snip
>>
>>But but but then you won't be able to have _real_ bangers n mash, made
>>with proper lincolnshire sausages and ooodles of onion gravy.
>>
>
>Onion Gravy? URGH WHY???
>
>No problem with Beef gravy, but Onion Gravy manages to ruin everything.
Beef gravy with sausages? Yuk.... sausages should be pork, so the best
gravy with them is made with lovely caramelised onion and some sage.
>
>Lincolnshire and Cumberland sausages have a very nice taste all their own,
>which my less than discerning palate finds is obliterated by Onion
>smegging gravy.
Onion smegging/smegging gravy....doesn't bear thinking about *shudder*.
Sausages do have a lovely taste on their own , but if they are well
browned first and then cooked in the gravy, you then get gravy that
tastes of sausages. And if they're good sausages eg Porkinsons bangers,
or Tesco's nice pork and leek ones, who can object to extra sausage
flavour to pour on your mash?
>Off to have some very nice Lorne sausage for lunch - lorne the Scottish
>hamburger!
>
What, cooked the traditional Scottish way - battered, deep fried and
sprinkled with crumbled Mars bars?
--
Sandriana
Harvest Specials: Chicken 'n' Cheese Krispy Dippers
(yes,ch-e-e-e-se!),Pork-Style Chicken Tikka Masala
(Give us some more, Mum!), Turkey-Flavoured Yoghurt
(Kids 'gobble' it up!),
Paul S. Brown
>On Fri, 12 Oct 2001 11:24:11 +0100, p...@read.the.sig.coz.this.is.invalid
>(Paul S. Brown) wrote:
>
>>snip
>>>
>>>But but but then you won't be able to have _real_ bangers n mash, made
>>>with proper lincolnshire sausages and ooodles of onion gravy.
>>>
>>
>>Onion Gravy? URGH WHY???
>>
>>No problem with Beef gravy, but Onion Gravy manages to ruin everything.
>
>Beef gravy with sausages? Yuk.... sausages should be pork, so the best
>gravy with them is made with lovely caramelised onion and some sage.
>>
>>Lincolnshire and Cumberland sausages have a very nice taste all their own,
>>which my less than discerning palate finds is obliterated by Onion
>>smegging gravy.
>
>Onion smegging/smegging gravy....doesn't bear thinking about *shudder*.
>
>Sausages do have a lovely taste on their own , but if they are well
>browned first and then cooked in the gravy, you then get gravy that
>tastes of sausages. And if they're good sausages eg Porkinsons bangers,
>or Tesco's nice pork and leek ones, who can object to extra sausage
>flavour to pour on your mash?
>
>>Off to have some very nice Lorne sausage for lunch - lorne the Scottish
>>hamburger!
>>
>What, cooked the traditional Scottish way - battered, deep fried and
>sprinkled with crumbled Mars bars?
Excuse me. Lorne sausage should be *grilled*. Probably around the healthiest
thing Scotland has ever produced, other than porage. In case you don't
know what I'm talking about, a Lorne of sausage is around 18" long and
around 3-4" on a side, square in form. This is sliced into 1/4-1/2" wide
slices and then grilled and served as you want.
Lovely lightly spiced pork sausage.
Also, have you never met decent beef sausages?
Paul
Jenny Radcliffe
> Anyway, as I will be in Durham from about 6.30pm on
> Friday, consider this my public announcement of attendance.
We - or an assortment of people including me and probably some
afp-lurkers, will be in the Victoria Hotel (it's a
CAMRA-recommends-heavily pub, don't be alarmed by the name) on
Hallgarth Street from around 8 this evening, in the unlikely event
that you get this and feel like joining us ...
Jenny Radcliffe
> Jenny Radcliffe wrote:
> > Only I've forgotten to check whether it's open on a
> > Saturday at the moment ... I shall do that tomorrow. For
> > now, though, let's assume it is.
>
http://www.dur.ac.uk/DSU/about-dsu/index.php3?p=union-building&pt=Th
e%20Union%20Building
> Kingsgate's open on Saturday from twelve on; Riverside
> doesn't seem to be.
Well, tut tut to Tom Phillips the Web Editor. It *is* in fact open
from 10-5, so there's the place to be, people!
> A housemate & I are currently gearing up to conduct
> extensive research into the two (and coincidentally get out of
> cooking dinner), but the new one seems the best according to
> preliminary findings. With the other, though, you get lemon
> chicken occasionally...
Currently it seems to be a case of "pros and cons", but we shall see
....
Andrew Gray
> > Kingsgate's open on Saturday from twelve on; Riverside
> > doesn't seem to be.
>
> Well, tut tut to Tom Phillips the Web Editor. It *is* in fact open
> from 10-5, so there's the place to be, people!
My apologies... leaving the library and wandering down to Dunelm to
check seemed like far too much effort ;-)
--
-Andrew Gray
shim...@bigfoot.com
Sandriana
(Paul S. Brown) wrote:
>snippage
>Excuse me. Lorne sausage should be *grilled*. Probably around the healthiest
>thing Scotland has ever produced, other than porage. In case you don't
>know what I'm talking about, a Lorne of sausage is around 18" long and
>around 3-4" on a side, square in form. This is sliced into 1/4-1/2" wide
>slices and then grilled and served as you want.
>
>Lovely lightly spiced pork sausage.
I live in Devon, so it's not something that's available here afaik, but
it sounds rather nice and I'd like to try it.
>
>Also, have you never met decent beef sausages?
No, I can't say as I have.
--
Sandriana
+++++ out of tea error ++++++
Andy Davison
<3bd9f1ed...@news.cis.dfn.de>, sand...@eurobell.co.uk
(Sandriana) wrote:
>Beef gravy with sausages? Yuk.... sausages should be pork, so the best
>gravy with them is made with lovely caramelised onion and some sage.
The best sausages are (IMO) merguez which, being from Muslim North
Africa (Algeria/Morocco?) are made from lamb or beef not pork (the
lamb ones are better). The Maghreb deli in Holloway does them (which
reminds me, I must go back, I haven't been there for months)
--
Andy Davison
andy.d...@btinternet.com
Kim Stock
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Nonononononooooooo!
Chicken and turkey are really scrummy! Can't always find them,
but when I do - they don't last very long...
--
Kim 'n' Fudge 'n' Fern
Jens Grivolla
> The best sausages are (IMO) merguez which, being from Muslim North
> Africa (Algeria/Morocco?) are made from lamb or beef not pork (the
beef merguez? mixed maybe..
> lamb ones are better). The Maghreb deli in Holloway does them (which
> reminds me, I must go back, I haven't been there for months)
Well, good thing merguez are probably the most unavoidable[1] food
around here (Marseille). You get merguez sandwiches, merguez pizza,
merguez couscous (obviously), etc.
And it hardly ever makes you seriously sick ;-)
Ciao,
Jens
[1] but why should you want to?
Sandriana
wrote:
snip
>
>Well, good thing merguez are probably the most unavoidable[1] food
>around here (Marseille). You get merguez sandwiches, merguez pizza,
>merguez couscous (obviously), etc.
Inna bun? Onna stick?