[F] Bath Meet filk
hippo
and giving me an excuse to have the first holiday I
have taken in ages.
I hadn't been to Bath for many many years and it
was great fun (despite the variable weather) to explore
the place again. The new displays (particularly the
clever cgi stuff) in the Roman Baths were very
impressive.
I dunno, CCDE and all these meets have gone to m' head
and I've gone an' written a filk about me.
How terribly immodest, please feel free to killfile me at once ......
With sincere apologies to Flanders and Swann who of course
wrote my original 'entry music'
A shy hippopotamus was surfing one day
In the group where the Pratchett fans spar
He gazed at J's postings which clearly did say
'Bout a meet in a Somerset bar
Gone home from a campsite, sat ircing at night
Many afpers had cunning plans laid
The Hippopotamus was no igoramus
And thought of this sweet serenade
Bath, Bath, Georgian Bath
Watching the afpers tread tourist path
So Wychwood, we'll swallow
Down in our hollow
And there let us wallow in Georgian Bath
The shy hippopotamus, he followed advice
There to spy on the Roman remains
And bookshops and cheese-shops would also entice
With tired feet he would wander the lanes
By train and by bus the others arrived
Welcome hugs that they gave when they met
Our lady of laughter adjusted tiara
And gave out more sweets from her set
Bath, Bath, Georgian Bath
Watching the afpers tread tourist path
So there, we'll sip ale
And new faces hail
And there let us wallow in Georgian Bath
That bold a f p army began to convene
In the depths of that Hobgoblin pub
I wonder now what to say of the scene
That ensued as they started to rub
They massaged at once, with a giggling 'ooh'
Then broke off and started again
An a f p army
of strange folk so balmy
All singing this happy refrain
Bath, Bath, Georgian Bath
Watching the afpers tread tourist path
So Wychwood, we'll swallow
Down in our hollow
And there let us wallow in Georgian Bath
hippo
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Supermouse
<mda...@btinternet.com> writes
>Thanks to J for orgainising the post CCDE meet
>and giving me an excuse to have the first holiday I
>have taken in ages.
Thanks from me also to J for organising, and to Miq for arranging crash
space and Ken for having the crash space I crashed in, and to Ruthi for
Ethelbert.
I would also like to thank the directors, the producers and _not_ thank
my hairdresser especially.
Oh, and Ethelbert.
>
>I hadn't been to Bath for many many years and it
>was great fun (despite the variable weather) to explore
>the place again. The new displays (particularly the
>clever cgi stuff) in the Roman Baths were very
>impressive.
I didn't see the baths, but Bath is beautiful, even coming up on the
train.
Oh yes, the train. I wish I could show you my itinerary sheet, it says
more about the journey than I can - a list of changes, all crossed out
and recrossed out and times written in and changed and changed. That was
fun.
Bath also has the strangest infestation I've ever seen - one cubicle at
the station loo had forty-six spiders in it, of which sixteen were an
inch (~3cm) across or wider.
I got into Bath and met Miq and Ruthi and Hippo all at once, and we Did
Bath. Bath is beautiful. It has its own cheese too, Bath Blue, which is
very salty with a creamy aftertaste.
There's a cheese shop at which I was shown the aforementioned Bath Blue.
It sells cheese and what I can only describe as comestibles. In a lot of
ways it's like The Cheese Shop in Nottingham, only prettier.
Miq completely failed to get a cup of tea, and spent a while doing it.
So long, in fact, that we had to head back to the station for the rest
of the meet. There was J, and lonecat. Later on there was Alistair and
Aquarion, Gid and Suzi, Jim and ? and ?, ? and ? being friends of Jim,
Ken (my provider of rash space and an all-round Good Bloke), a Barbarian
Houri and accompanying Houriling and... um... probably someone I've just
offended deeply who was in fact the life and soul of the meet but whom
my lentil-sized Rodent brain cannot recall.
Oh, and of course Ethelbert.
Ethelbert is a very touchy-feely type and was met all evening by turned
backs. This didn't dampen his cheery smile one whit and he has no doubt
he'd be welcome again anywhere.
Food happened at a burger place that does normal burgers, blue cheese
burgers and Thai burgers, amongst others. Of course, I had the Thai.
Sometimes one just has to break stereotype.
Back to the pub and more drinks and more talk, of geek toys and
violence, and afp and afpers past and present and so on and so forth.
Anything that happened after 10pm I missed as I was dragged away with
siren songs of cheese and crash space.
After a woderfully cheesy breakfast and two portions of fruit or
vegetables, I was taken to see Shrek. I enjoyed Shrek. Then I was taken
to see Coventry. I didn't enjoy Coventry nearly as much as I enjoyed
Shrek.
And so to bed.
Cordially,
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[Snip]
> Back to the pub and more drinks and more talk, of geek toys and
> violence, and afp and afpers past and present and so on and so forth.
> Anything that happened after 10pm I missed as I was dragged away with
> siren songs of cheese and crash space.
What are things coming too we ask ourselves... come just past closing
time the only ones left at the meet were Jim & friend, Gid and myself.
Aquarion made a valiant effort at stopping as long as possible before
toddling off to his hastily found abode for the night, but the rest of
the meet all disappeared about 10-ish. Bah... I dunno... kids these
days... no stamina...
Suzi
<g>
Aquarion
>Supermouse <Super...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>[Snip]
>> Back to the pub and more drinks and more talk, of geek toys and
>> violence, and afp and afpers past and present and so on and so forth.
>> Anything that happened after 10pm I missed as I was dragged away with
>> siren songs of cheese and crash space.
>
>What are things coming too we ask ourselves... come just past closing
>time the only ones left at the meet were Jim & friend, Gid and myself.
>Aquarion made a valiant effort at stopping as long as possible before
Mwa.
Mwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
*continues to laugh muchly*
Define stupidity, and you may be forced to invoke my name:
Bath Time
*********
A report, and diary entry, by Nicholas 'Aquarion' Avenell.
Moron, of the order of St. Astrid.
Well, That sucked.
Went to Bath.
This sums up, in three words, four hours of travel, decided completely
on a whim at 11 O'clock in the morning. I decided that since it wasn't
every day that RR was in the country, I should be there.
Life began to suck as soon as I got to the station just in time to see
my train leave. Caught the next one - 15 minutes later - to London,
Charing Cross -> Waterloo -> Bath Spa.
Where I arrived exactly 15 minutes late.
So the people I was looking for had left. Yay. Rah. And other
expressions of sarcastic joy. Together with someone else in the same
situation, we wandered around Bath until, quite by accident, we ran
into someone who had just walked out of the pub where the Meet was
happening.
I should have known this wouldn't last.
It was suggested that finding a cheap (£10) hotel would be an
improvement on going home at 20:45 (My last train), so we went to the
local Backpackers place, which was totally full.
Bad.
They, however, were very helpful and booked me into a similar place,
giving me a leaflet with the name and address of the hotel on it, and
gave me the check in time, which was "before midnight".
So, Back to the meet, by way of most of Bath. We asked two people how
to get to the pub. When the pointed in opposite directions, we
realised this was going to be fun.
Anyway. Meet, Drinking, Geeking, Vommary galore. *fun* stuff.
At 10, LC had to wander off with parents.
At 11:15, I decided to go find my hotel.
Actually, At 11:15, I discovered that the leaflet with the address and
name of this hotel had gone. Completely.
So, I spent 45 minutes wandering around where I thought the map had
said, with no success, before realizing I was screwed. Next train home
was 08:00. It was now midnight.
The Long Wait:
**************
Spent about an hour at the station until they locked it up.
At this point I got as far as "How..." of "How could this possibly get
any worse" before it did.
And it started to rain.
Spent another hour sitting beside the river, explaining my life story
to it (More vocal exercises than anything else). Attempted to sort my
life into some kind of order. Wandered up the riverside path, sat
around for a while.
Wandered back again.
Found a bench with a street-light above it, finished my book.
Wandered back to the weir I'd been talking to earlier.
Wandered to the bus-station in search of a chocolate vending machine
I'd seen earlier, and by this time it was about 4am.
Started writing in my (Physical) diary, which, as it will *always* do,
even at 4am in a deserted bus station, prompted someone to come up and
try to talk to me.
Shot the breeze with him (name unknown) on the State Of The Transport
Network, and how terrible it was that he had to wait a whole 45
minutes for a bus home.
You can hear the sympathy oozing from me, can't you?
At 4:45 his bus left, and so did I.
Wandered back to the wier (It was nice there, shady from the rain, the
noise of the water keeping me from sleeping and either being robbed or
arrested for being a vagrant or something) and watched the sun rise.
Wandered around Bath for another couple of hours, caught the train to
Reading, Grabbed coffee, Train to Redhill, Train to The Fictional Town
of Paddock Wood, Walk Home.
Get home ~12:00
*sleep*
Yours in total sincerity,
Aquarion D'Blue
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*hugs*
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Suzi
:-(
I think, judging by the first bit (ie. missing the train) that someone
somewhere may've been hinting about what was to come if you made it to
Bath.
<HUG>
Suzi
hippo
Oh deary. deary me, you silly fishtank
<many hugs>
The only comparable experience I have is going on elsewhere after a London
meet and just missing the 'last' train north from Blackfriars [1]
and having to sit on the station until to 'first' train of the morning
thankfully only a two and a half hour wait.
There are lessons to be learnt from this :
principally involving mobile phone numbers of afpers with
maps and credit cards and friendly hotel owners who would
have tried their best to help
I feel I've let a fellow afper down :-((
a sad hippo
---
Aquarion
Fear not. For, had the worst happened, I have phone numbers of people
to call. And, with eagle eye hindsight, I can say I should have asked
a taxi-driver, or something.
Anyway, I have phone numbers. Not bringing my phone, however, was just
plain silly...
MP
<snip>
> After a woderfully cheesy breakfast and two portions of fruit or
> vegetables, I was taken to see Shrek. I enjoyed Shrek. Then I was taken
> to see Coventry. I didn't enjoy Coventry nearly as much as I enjoyed
> Shrek.
But it's lovely! Really! <over-enthuse mode off...>
Admittedly, Shrek is better than Coventry, but then again, you can't
have a meet in Shrek - he'd probably object... :-}
MP (hijacking posts again... :-} )
Supermouse
writes
[re Coventry]
>But it's lovely! Really! <over-enthuse mode off...> Admittedly, Shrek is
>better than Coventry, but then again, you can't have a meet in Shrek -
>he'd probably object... :-}
Oh, all right, I'll come and have a look at this so-called wonderful tow
of yours... Hm.... my diary's a bit full.... will this Saturday do you?
I could probably be at the station at about 11-ish if you're willing to
meet me there.
Quantum Moth
> In article <3B79A969...@softhome.net>, MP <mpet...@softhome.net>
> writes
> [re Coventry]
>
> >But it's lovely! Really! <over-enthuse mode off...> Admittedly, Shrek is
> >better than Coventry, but then again, you can't have a meet in Shrek -
> >he'd probably object... :-}
Well, Shrek may be better than Coventry, but dental surgery
without anaesthesia is better than Coventry. And, sheesh, get over that
movie already. It was mildly diverting fun last month. Any pretensions
to it being a classic will be met with a stern look over the top of
spectacles.
> Oh, all right, I'll come and have a look at this so-called wonderful tow
> of yours...
What, like "yeah, put this end of the rope 'round the cathedral,
someone's got a nice Land Rover ready in Calais, we'll get it shifted
into the Channel before you can..." oh, no, wait. I'm being mindlessly
pedantic about a typo.
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wrote:
snip entire Coventry thing
>
" oh, no, wait. I'm being mindlessly
>pedantic about a typo.
There's a surprise!
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Quantum Moth <sc...@mostly.com> wrote:
> Supermouse <Super...@ntlworld.com> said...
> > In article <3B79A969...@softhome.net>, MP <mpet...@softhome.net>
> > writes
> > [re Coventry]
> >
> > >But it's lovely! Really! <over-enthuse mode off...> Admittedly, Shrek is
> > >better than Coventry, but then again, you can't have a meet in Shrek -
> > >he'd probably object... :-}
> Well, Shrek may be better than Coventry, but dental surgery
> without anaesthesia is better than Coventry.
OI! Leave my city alone. It's not *that* bad.
Compared to Slough...
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MP
We could work out a sort of scale from this... Ratings of how good
things are, perhaps like:
Whitehaven[1] -> Slough -> Dental Surgery -> Coventry -> Shrek -> Books
Worst --->--->--->--->--->--->--->--->--->--->--->--->--->--->---> Best
MP
[1] Yes? _I_ don't like it. You can move it if you like... :-}
MP
>
> In article <3B79A969...@softhome.net>, MP <mpet...@softhome.net>
> writes
> [re Coventry]
>
> >But it's lovely! Really! <over-enthuse mode off...> Admittedly, Shrek is
> >better than Coventry, but then again, you can't have a meet in Shrek -
> >he'd probably object... :-}
>
> Oh, all right, I'll come and have a look at this so-called wonderful tow
> of yours... Hm.... my diary's a bit full.... will this Saturday do you?
> I could probably be at the station at about 11-ish if you're willing to
> meet me there.
Of course, what a good idea... Would you object if I invited a few other
people? Nice ones, of course, perhaps bringing a few soft toys and
sweets along?
I'll see you there... :-}
MP
ruthi
2001 11:15:00 +0100, Quantum Moth < sc...@mostly.com >wrote...
> Well, Shrek may be better than Coventry, but dental surgery
> without anaesthesia is better than Coventry. And, sheesh, get over that
> movie already. It was mildly diverting fun last month. Any pretensions
> to it being a classic will be met with
But it was lovely! It was damn beautiful. And The romance worked, not
like in them movies what go - well, s/he's pretty, s/he doesn't need to
have a personality or anything for someone to fall in love with
her/him...
The villagers moved wrong, even if they had every hair in the right
place.
And - Robin Hood *french*? Why??
> a stern look over the top of spectacles.
Wow, cool! New spectacles :8-)
Supermouse
writes
>Of course, what a good idea... Would you object if I invited a few other
>people? Nice ones, of course, perhaps bringing a few soft toys and
>sweets along?
No, the more the merrier. I'll see if I can rustle up some cheese to
bring.
>I'll see you there... :-}
Yup!
David Chapman
> In article <MPG.15e4555c1...@News.CIS.DFN.DE>, on Wed, 15 Aug
> 2001 11:15:00 +0100, Quantum Moth < sc...@mostly.com >wrote...
>
> > Well, Shrek may be better than Coventry, but dental surgery
> > without anaesthesia is better than Coventry. And, sheesh, get over that
> > movie already. It was mildly diverting fun last month. Any pretensions
> > to it being a classic will be met with
>
> But it was lovely! It was damn beautiful.
It wasn't one-tenth as beautiful as Final Fantasy - and nobody's
going to hail that as a classic.
Face it - Shrek sucked.
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>
> "ruthi" <rru...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:MPG.15e540168...@news.lspace.org...
> > In article <MPG.15e4555c1...@News.CIS.DFN.DE>, on Wed, 15 Aug
> > 2001 11:15:00 +0100, Quantum Moth < sc...@mostly.com >wrote...
> >
> > > Well, Shrek may be better than Coventry, but dental surgery
> > > without anaesthesia is better than Coventry. And, sheesh, get over that
> > > movie already. It was mildly diverting fun last month. Any pretensions
> > > to it being a classic will be met with
> >
> > But it was lovely! It was damn beautiful.
>
> It wasn't one-tenth as beautiful as Final Fantasy - and nobody's
> going to hail that as a classic.
>
> Face it - Shrek sucked.
Hey! FF didn't have lovely waving stands of grass .... andandand leafy
trees andandand fleshtones that didn't make everyone look like a bloody corpse...
I *liked* Shrek. It was a fairy tale, and as fairy tales go it wasn't
the screamingly horrid disaster that some films have been in the past.
A classic? Noooooo ... but then neither was Final Fantasy, IMO.
David
David Chapman
> David Chapman wrote:
> >
> > "ruthi" <rru...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:MPG.15e540168...@news.lspace.org...
> > > In article <MPG.15e4555c1...@News.CIS.DFN.DE>, on Wed, 15 Aug
> > > 2001 11:15:00 +0100, Quantum Moth < sc...@mostly.com >wrote...
> > >
> > > > Well, Shrek may be better than Coventry, but dental surgery
> > > > without anaesthesia is better than Coventry. And, sheesh, get over that
> > > > movie already. It was mildly diverting fun last month. Any pretensions
> > > > to it being a classic will be met with
> > >
> > > But it was lovely! It was damn beautiful.
> >
> > It wasn't one-tenth as beautiful as Final Fantasy - and nobody's
> > going to hail that as a classic.
> >
> > Face it - Shrek sucked.
>
> Hey! FF didn't have lovely waving stands of grass .... andandand leafy
> trees andandand fleshtones that didn't make everyone look like a bloody corpse...
Not everyone in FF looked like a corpse. Aki Ross did, but then,
she *is* supposed to be suffering from a terminal illness.
>
> I *liked* Shrek. It was a fairy tale, and as fairy tales go it wasn't
> the screamingly horrid disaster that some films have been in the past.
It would have sucked a lot less if it had been hyped a lot less,
I'll admit.
Isuldir
>
> Well, Shrek may be better than Coventry, but dental surgery
> without anaesthesia is better than Coventry.
Now you've got me pondering the origins of the phrase "sent to
Coventry", which always seems to be a bad thing. Shame on you!
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Keith Collyer
news:9lgre4$9cc4e$4...@ID-93395.news.dfncis.de:
> It would have sucked a lot less if it had been hyped a lot
> less, I'll admit.
I didn't see any of the hype, just went along with my son one
bored afternoon. I have now seen it three times, and actually
looking forward to the DVD.
Cheers
KeithC
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the_peanut_gallery
> And - Robin Hood *french*? Why??
Funny you should say that. In French, he's Italian. Apart from that, the
scene was very Mel Brooks and the pan-generational howl of laughter
provoked by the Princess getting Martial was equalled only by Zorg in
Toy Story 2 saying "I am your father".
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 02:28:13 +0200, ruthi <rru...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>And - Robin Hood *french*? Why??
Well because around that time he, being of high birth, would have been
speaking Norman French.
Cheers,
Graham.
MegaMole
gra...@DELETETHISaffordable-leather.co.uk writes
Also, "Le Jeu de Robin et de Marion" was a famous poem in France around
the 13th century, written I believe by Adam de la Halle. Curiously,
however, "Robin" and "Marion" were names that French people assigned to
peasants - quite a way off from Sir Robert of Locksley and Marion
fitzWalter, niece of Richard I.
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Daibhid Chiennedelh
>Date: 19/08/01 01:14 GMT
>Message-id: <3b7ec2a5...@news.cwcom.net>
Robin Hood wasn't of high birth, he was a Saxon peasant. All the stuff about
him being the Earl of Huntingdon was made up long after the original ballads.
And was then removed, to turn him back into a Working Class Hero fighting the
oppressor.
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David Chapman
> Robin Hood wasn't of high birth, he was a Saxon peasant. All the stuff about
> him being the Earl of Huntingdon was made up long after the original ballads.
I always thought he was the Baron of Locksley?
Lawrence Mitchell
> I always thought he was the Baron of Locksley?
Earl of Locksley. So together you were there.
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Eric Jarvis
> "Daibhid Chiennedelh" <daibhidc...@aol.comedy> wrote in message news:20010819152403...@ng-bg1.aol.com...
>
> > Robin Hood wasn't of high birth, he was a Saxon peasant. All the stuff about
> > him being the Earl of Huntingdon was made up long after the original ballads.
>
> I always thought he was the Baron of Locksley?
>
all a total fiction apparently...there may well have not actually
been a Robin Hood...if there was he was definitely NOT Anything of
Locksley...and the exploits are pretty much all drawn from other
sources
damn good story though
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Eric Jarvis wrote in message ...
>David Chapman wrote:
>> "Daibhid Chiennedelh" <daibhidc...@aol.comedy> wrote in message
news:20010819152403...@ng-bg1.aol.com...
>>
>> > Robin Hood wasn't of high birth, he was a Saxon peasant. All the
stuff about
>> > him being the Earl of Huntingdon was made up long after the
original ballads.
>>
>> I always thought he was the Baron of Locksley?
>>
>all a total fiction apparently...there may well have not actually
>been a Robin Hood...if there was he was definitely NOT Anything of
>Locksley...and the exploits are pretty much all drawn from other
>sources
Various different forms of the legend (as it currently stands: i.e.
as it is usually told these days, no matter how far away from the
original source or any real-life events it may be) give him different
titles, though most agree these days on Robin Hood being a titled
nobleman who lived a double life until it was discovered that the
nobleman in question, and Robin Hood the "altruistic" bandit chieftain,
were one and the same...
For instance, the Errol Flynn film of "Robin Hood" (the one true
great film about Robin Hood) calls him Sir Robin, Baron of Locksley.
Roger Lancelyn Green's retelling of the story calls him Robert Fitzooth,
Earl of Huntingdon. (An obvious howler of a mistake there: giving him an
obviously Norman surname - beginning with "Fitz" - despite claiming he
was of Saxon descent. Unless he was of of mixed descent, with Saxon
heritage on his mother's side: as told in yet a different version of the
story that I've read, which gave him the surname of Fitzwilliam.) What
the original legends of centuries ago may have said, I do not know: all
I've seen are 20th-century re-tellings. But the point isn't exactly
*which* title he had, so much as that (according to legend) he *had* a
title, or at least CLAIMED one.
As to who or what might have been the nearest real-life equivalent:
as Daibhid suggests, if there ever *was* a leader of a band of outlaws
in Sherwood Forest who had several sympathisers among the local
peasants, but none among the nobility (all that giving to the poor isn't
necessarily altruistic - it's to make sure that none of them will give
you away when you choose their house to hide in), the chances that he
was a bona fide ex-nobleman are probably vanishingly small.
On the other hand, it might be possible that an outlaw of sorts,
somewhere in the country, many centuries ago, might have claimed to be
the bastard son of some nobleman and a village girl... which claim,
however easily "disproved" or denied at the time, might end up (as
legends sort of flow into one another and grow in the telling,
mis-telling and re-telling) as a contribution to the eventual formation,
over the course of the next few centuries, of a "Robin Hood" legend in
which the protagonist was the son of a nobleman - possibly even the
bastard son of one who had no legitimate son: which might account for
his mixed Norman/Saxon parentage in some re-tellings, and for his being
dispossessed of his "rightful heritage" in others, and even for using a
Norman surname such as Fitzooth or Fitzwilliam when in "respectable"
guise... especially if the later storytellers put the story back as
having happened at the time when Norman/Saxon strife still happened to
some extent, such as that of King Richard the Lionheart and Prince
(later King) John, which seems to have been the most usual setting for
the Robin Hood story as told over the past couple of centuries.
Jonathan.
phil...@see.signature.uk
<nos...@last.dircon.co.uk> wrote:
>David Chapman wrote:
>> "Daibhid Chiennedelh" <daibhidc...@aol.comedy> wrote in message news:20010819152403...@ng-bg1.aol.com...
>>
>> > Robin Hood wasn't of high birth, he was a Saxon peasant. All the stuff about
>> > him being the Earl of Huntingdon was made up long after the original ballads.
>>
>> I always thought he was the Baron of Locksley?
>>
>
>all a total fiction apparently...there may well have not actually
>been a Robin Hood...if there was he was definitely NOT Anything of
>Locksley...and the exploits are pretty much all drawn from other
>sources
If you want a very good read on the earlier and indeed, Indian mythic
roots of Robin Hood (I can hear a 'Goodness Gracious Me' sketch coming
on.....), I cannot but highly recommend this book:-
'Robin Hood: The Spirit of the Forest' by Steve Wilson, publ. Neptune
Press
Philippa
Daibhid Chiennedelh
>Date: 21/08/01 02:04 GMT
>Message-id: <9lsffr$o84$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>
>
> As to who or what might have been the nearest real-life equivalent:
>as Daibhid suggests, if there ever *was* a leader of a band of outlaws
>in Sherwood Forest who had several sympathisers among the local
>peasants, but none among the nobility (all that giving to the poor isn't
>necessarily altruistic - it's to make sure that none of them will give
>you away when you choose their house to hide in),
Actually, there wasn't much mention of "giving to the poor" in the original
ballads either. That also got added later.
Andy Davison
<9lsffr$o84$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Jonathan Ellis"
<jona...@franz-liszt.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> For instance, the Errol Flynn film of "Robin Hood" (the one true
>great film about Robin Hood)
You're forgetting 'Up The Chastity Belt'. For me, Hugh Paddick will
always be the true Robin Hood :)
--
Andy Davison
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<Super...@ntlworld.com> writes:
>Bath also has the strangest infestation I've ever seen - one cubicle at
>the station loo had forty-six spiders in it, of which sixteen were an
>inch (~3cm) across or wider.
You counted and measured forty-six spiders??
<boggle>
All the best,
Sarah
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phil...@see.signature.uk
>In article <w6TXldAg...@ntlworld.com>, Supermouse
><Super...@ntlworld.com> writes:
>
>>Bath also has the strangest infestation I've ever seen
and the water <G>?
Philippa
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