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PHIL WILLIS

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Apr 9, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/9/96
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I'm typing this on Tuesday night just as the post-convention depression
is starting. The weekend was almost definately one of the best I will
ever have and I didn't want it to finish, apart from all the apfactivity
detailed (or glossed over) below I managed to spend several hours being
a floozie in the jacuzzi, several more hours reading slash, even more
hours having entertaining (and usually x-rated) conversations and even
some more hours playing with the chaos costuming - You too can make
yourself a corset out of bin bags and gaffer tape :) Oh yes, and there
were programme items too....


It all began way back on Friday with the official AFP meet (1)
I turned up, as did ppint, Emmet, the Bellinghman, Colette, Mark
(holyhorns) Lowes, Paul (custard) Rood, Karen, Richard Kettlewell and
probably some other people, who I've either forgotten because of all the
alcohol or missed because I left early. The meet was positioned in the
real ale bar on the side of the pool and jacuzzi so it was a bit damp
but with a good view. I'm sure there was some interesting conversation
but I missed most of it and will leave it to someone else to tell all.

Saturday passed in a haze of hangover, and slash and decadence and while
I know I had a good time and saw various afp people from time to time I
can't remember enough details for it to be worth typing about, having
said that Saturday was also the day that I learned of the existence of
a piece of erotic fiction (slash) featuring Death and the Librarian.
I have since read the story and am still impressed by the incredible
twistedness a mind must have to come up with such a thing, It's probably
not suitable to post here but lets just say the Librarian is made to go
Ook, ook, o-o-o-o-o-o-o-k! and Magrat really shouldn't be behaving like
that without checking where Verence is :) - If anyone wants to read it
I have the author's permission to pass it on so mail me for a copy.

Sunday was more memorable. I managed to persuade Emmet and Karen that
they should try bellydancing (2), and after watching the masquerade I
had the pleasure of trying a couple of ppints interesting spirits and we
formed what was probably the first (3) afp corridor party. We being
ppint, Kenjo, the still charismatic but now rather drunk and much
friendlier Emmet and me, plus some people I've forgotten and other
various random fen(4). Much partying happened.

Monday, was a lot like Sunday once again featuring ppint and his
interesting spirits, Kenjo and the very tactile Emmet but this
time without the masquerade, corridors or belly dancing although we did
get to see Gordon T Gopher come close to drowning in the Jacuzzi.
Alt.Fan.Emmet now has most of a FAQ and it has been conclusively proved
(to me at least) that unlike Pterry's suggestions to the contrary,
encountering Emmet's chrisma (5) is probably the most fun you can have
with your clothes on (7).

Carol


(1) Well actually it had begun earlier as we'd sort of met while
checking in or wandering around the convention.
(2) Photos will be available later
(3) and after the hotel staff/woman with a migraine made us move on also
the second, third, fourth and fifth corridor partys
(4) The Bellinghman and Collette had left earlier and the rest of the
DWCon committee present had already gone to bed
(5) And pheromones of course (6)
(6) Even his handwriting is alleged to have pheromones
(6) Although until proved otherwise we can still assume that writing is
the most fun you can with your clothes *and glasses* on
(7) ppint may well have the pphotos to pprove this but I kind of hope
not
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* SLMR 2.1a * Ook, Oook, O-O-O-O-ooo-OOOO-ook!


Lee Staniforth

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Apr 10, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/10/96
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In article <8BE5529.074E...@almac.co.uk>, PHIL WILLIS
<phil....@almac.co.uk> writes
>
<Snip most of description of Evolution which I couldn't afford to go -
sob! - for this enlightening bit>

>
>Monday, was a lot like Sunday once again featuring ppint and his
>interesting spirits, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

What ? ppint is MALE ?!
Yikes, what a revelation.

--
Lee Staniforth, Chairman
MancheXter '97 - The UK X-Files Convention
+=================================================================+
| The MANCHESTER X-FILES VIDEOTHON. See unseen Season 3 episodes |
| 12pm - 6pm, Sat 4 May 1996, Mitre Hotel, Manchester. UKP3.00 |
+=================================================================+

ppint.

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Apr 10, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/10/96
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- hi. in afparticle, <oqWvvLAC...@roogna.demon.co.uk>,
l...@roogna.demon.co.uk "Lee Staniforth" ejaculated:
> In article <8BE5529.074E...@almac.co.uk>,
> [_carol_, and not] PHIL WILLIS [at _all_] <phil....@almac.co.uk> writes

> >
> <Snip most of description of Evolution which I couldn't afford to go -
> sob! - for this enlightening bit>
> >
> >Monday, was a lot like Sunday once again featuring ppint and his
> >interesting spirits, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> What ? ppint is MALE ?!
> Yikes, what a revelation.
>
> (Lee)
>
- :-) possibly; possibly; <g>:

- alternatively, carol may have here dissembled: in the vain hope
of influencing my decision as to whether the gory graphical details
of the process of her & the proverbially industrious one's research
leading to the announcement of their provisional conclusions wrt
spectacles [1], framed facially-mounted opthalmic defect correcting
devices, the presence or absence of clothes upon one's [2] person,
and degrees and extremes of fun, should, or should not be scanned
and then made available upon some suitable archive for all to view,
marvel at [3], and then draw their own conclusions [4]...

- love, a spaced-out ppint just back to i.m.t. (and i-m-t) some
thirty minutes ago...

[1] - including a pose that i think can only be justly described as
"playemmet of the month"

[2] - or two's, or threes'...

[3] - their research was indeed both industrious, and assidious...

[4] - such as, whether to enquire of the brazen hussy [5] posting from
phil....@almac.co.uk how much, by way of negotiable instrument,
or purity point reducing experiences, it might be worth to her,
to keep details of the site, directory, filenames and the general
nature of the blackm^H^H^H^H^H^H, ah, _research_ record there
made available...

[5] - and you thought [6] emmet a tart !

[6] - (correctly)
--
"the life of a vegetable is of no interest to anyone whatsoever -
including to the vegetable in question. i speak from personal experience."
- ppint. at the sf, fantasy and horror book and role-playing game shop,
interstellar master traders, lancaster

Dick Eney

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Apr 10, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/10/96
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In article <oqWvvLAC...@roogna.demon.co.uk>,

Lee Staniforth <l...@roogna.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <8BE5529.074E...@almac.co.uk>, PHIL WILLIS
><phil....@almac.co.uk> writes
>>
><Snip most of description of Evolution which I couldn't afford to go -
>sob! - for this enlightening bit>
>>
>>Monday, was a lot like Sunday once again featuring ppint and his
>>interesting spirits, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>What ? ppint is MALE ?!
>Yikes, what a revelation.
>
But consider the source.

-- Tamar
"Trust the Computer. The Computer is your friend."

Mark Lowes

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Apr 10, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/10/96
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[retagged]
On Tue, 09 Apr 96 22:01:00 +0100, in <8BE5529.074E...@almac.co.uk>
phil....@almac.co.uk (PHIL WILLIS) wrote.....

>I'm typing this on Tuesday night just as the post-convention depression
>is starting.

Managed to skip it :)

>The weekend was almost definately one of the best I will
>ever have

Seconded, a very good con despite the hangover from hell :(

>and I didn't want it to finish, apart from all the apfactivity
>detailed (or glossed over) below I managed to spend several hours being
>a floozie in the jacuzzi,

Sorry we didn't notice the difference >:)

>several more hours reading slash,

I don't think we want to know the sordid details :)

>even more
>hours having entertaining (and usually x-rated) conversations and even
>some more hours playing with the chaos costuming - You too can make
>yourself a corset out of bin bags and gaffer tape :) Oh yes, and there
>were programme items too....

Missed them :)

>It all began way back on Friday with the official AFP meet (1)
>I turned up, as did ppint, Emmet, the Bellinghman, Colette, Mark
>(holyhorns) Lowes, Paul (custard) Rood, Karen

(Where's the Vodka)

>, Richard Kettlewell and
>probably some other people, who I've either forgotten because of all the
>alcohol or missed because I left early. The meet was positioned in the
>real ale bar on the side of the pool and jacuzzi so it was a bit damp
>but with a good view. I'm sure there was some interesting conversation
>but I missed most of it and will leave it to someone else to tell all.

Well i can't remember all the details but here are some edited
high(low)lights. Colette tried out here new Discworld fashion accessory
(an orang wrapped round her arm[1]). Paul was, well, Paul. Just ask
him about sugar cubes :) Various photos from Manc2 & a concom meet were
passed round with comments on Karen's drinking habits and what was that
Hedgehog doing to Paul? Carol wandered in and out of the meet wearing a
pointy hat.

Out of context quote time >:)

"This seat is damp", ppint looking at where Paul was sitting.

"yes yes yes" Paul while holding a hedgehog.

"Just these piles of bloodstained letters" - Colette

"Leave anything round our [Police] station and someone will nick it"
- a friend of Karen's

"It's like nanotech, only bigger" - overheard while sitting by the pool.

"It's better with your eyes closed" - emmet

[...]


>Sunday was more memorable. I managed to persuade Emmet and Karen that
>they should try bellydancing (2),

GIF GIF GIF! :)

>and after watching the masquerade I
>had the pleasure of trying a couple of ppints interesting spirits and we
>formed what was probably the first (3) afp corridor party. We being
>ppint, Kenjo, the still charismatic but now rather drunk and much
>friendlier Emmet and me, plus some people I've forgotten and other
>various random fen(4). Much partying happened.

I think the best description of Emmet's condition comes from the flirt
himself, "pickled" :)

>Monday, was a lot like Sunday once again featuring ppint and his

>interesting spirits, Kenjo and the very tactile Emmet but this
>time without the masquerade, corridors or belly dancing although we did
>get to see Gordon T Gopher come close to drowning in the Jacuzzi.
>Alt.Fan.Emmet

What about
alt.fan.emmet.cuddle
alt.fan.emmet.flirt
alt.fan.emmet.pickled >:)

>now has most of a FAQ and it has been conclusively proved
>(to me at least) that unlike Pterry's suggestions to the contrary,
>encountering Emmet's chrisma (5) is probably the most fun you can have
>with your clothes on (7).

:)

Mark

[1] Alan was eyeing it carefully to make sure it wasn't going to propose
:)
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The Flying Hamster Listserver : send 'index' to list...@flyhmstr.demon.co.uk
Shin: A device for finding furniture in the dark.

James Brokaw

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Apr 10, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/10/96
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Dick Eney (dick...@access1.digex.net) wrote:
> In article <oqWvvLAC...@roogna.demon.co.uk>,
> Lee Staniforth <l...@roogna.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> >What ? ppint is MALE ?!
> >Yikes, what a revelation.
>
> But consider the source.

Well, it said so on my computer screen.

> "Trust the Computer. The Computer is your friend."

I suppose (s)he's a Pent', too?

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The Bellinghman

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Apr 10, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/10/96
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On Wed, 10 Apr 96 16:25:42 GMT, "ppint." <pp...@i-m-t.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

> - hi. in afparticle, <oqWvvLAC...@roogna.demon.co.uk>,
> l...@roogna.demon.co.uk "Lee Staniforth" ejaculated:
>> In article <8BE5529.074E...@almac.co.uk>,
>> [_carol_, and not] PHIL WILLIS [at _all_] <phil....@almac.co.uk> writes
>> >

>> >Monday, was a lot like Sunday once again featuring ppint and his

>> >interesting spirits, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^


>>
>> What ? ppint is MALE ?!
>> Yikes, what a revelation.
>>

>> (Lee)
>>
> - :-) possibly; possibly; <g>:

Hey, ppint., look at it this way - it's a wonderful way to get the
whole of afp to stop proposing to you ... and it's not even you having
to fib.

(Alternatively, "the male embraces the female" - Carol's attempt to
type 'hir" hit a mental block)

>
> [5] - and you thought [6] emmet a tart !
>
> [6] - (correctly)

Well, ye-es, but so?

Alan
--
Alan Bellingham: al...@doughnut.demon.co.uk

Lee Staniforth

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Apr 10, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/10/96
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In article <04101996...@flyhmstr.demon.co.uk>, Mark Lowes
<ma...@flyhmstr.demon.co.uk> writes

<Mega snip>

>Well i can't remember all the details but here are some edited
>high(low)lights. Colette tried out here new Discworld fashion accessory
>(an orang wrapped round her arm[1]). Paul was, well, Paul.

Look 'ere, matey! Leave the cahp alone, alright ?

> Just ask
>him about sugar cubes :) Various photos from Manc2

Show me!

> & a concom meet were
>passed round with comments on Karen's drinking habits and what was that
>Hedgehog doing to Paul? Carol wandered in and out of the meet wearing a
>pointy hat.

Hmm.. By the use of hedgehogs I take it this was one of the Christie
Stuffed 'hogs ?

>>Sunday was more memorable. I managed to persuade Emmet and Karen that
>>they should try bellydancing (2),
>
>GIF GIF GIF! :)

Here/hear, here/hear, here/hear!

PHIL WILLIS

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Apr 11, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/11/96
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Sometime recently Lee wrote in response to something I'd wittered on
about...

>> <Snip most of description of Evolution which I couldn't afford to go -
>> sob! - for this enlightening bit>
>> >

>> >Monday, was a lot like Sunday once again featuring ppint and his
>> >interesting spirits, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>> What ? ppint is MALE ?!
>> Yikes, what a revelation.
>>
>> (Lee)


I shouldn't take that too literally Lee, everyone knows it's notoriously
difficult to tell with ppints. Just put it down to my being too lazy to
type his/her and the simple fact that I insist that anyone that cute
really should be male. Of course if the opportunity for further
research does present itself I will let you know :)

Carol
---
* SLMR 2.1a * Sex is better than logic, but I can't prove it.


Mark Lowes

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On 10 Apr 1996 22:03:05 GMT, in <4khb6p$1j...@mule1.mindspring.com>
Hedg...@photobooks.atdc.gatech.edu (James Brokaw) wrote.....
>Dick Eney (dick...@access1.digex.net) wrote:

> Lee Staniforth <l...@roogna.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> >What ? ppint is MALE ?!
>> >Yikes, what a revelation.
>> But consider the source.
>Well, it said so on my computer screen.

Well it must be true ;) but then again my computer tells me that Win95
is an operating system so i don't think i can trust mine >:)

>> "Trust the Computer. The Computer is your friend."

Hmm, this person never met one of the cad stations at work :(

Mark

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The Flying Hamster Listserver : send 'index' to list...@flyhmstr.demon.co.uk

It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations.

PHIL WILLIS

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ppint pposted this in reply to Lee.

PP> - alternatively, carol may have here dissembled: in the vain hope
PP> of influencing my decision as to whether the gory graphical details
PP> of the process of her & the proverbially industrious one's research
PP> leading to the announcement of their provisional conclusions wrt
PP> spectacles [1], framed facially-mounted opthalmic defect correcting
PP> devices, the presence or absence of clothes upon one's [2] person,
PP> and degrees and extremes of fun, should, or should not be scanned
PP> and then made available upon some suitable archive for all to view,
PP> marvel at [3], and then draw their own conclusions [4]...

Curses foiled again, there is obviously no distracting a ppint.

PP> - love, a spaced-out ppint just back to i.m.t. (and i-m-t) some
PP> thirty minutes ago...

PP> [1] - including a pose that i think can only be justly described as
PP> "playemmet of the month"

actually I'd quite like to see that one since I wasn't in the room when
it was taken.

PP> [2] - or two's, or threes'...

why stop there?

PP> [3] - their research was indeed both industrious, and assidious...

and would have been more so if ppint hadn't had a camera handy

PP> [4] - such as, whether to enquire of the brazen hussy [5] posting fr
PP> phil....@almac.co.uk how much, by way of negotiable instrum
PP> or purity point reducing experiences, it might be worth to her
PP> to keep details of the site, directory, filenames and the gene
PP> nature of the blackm^H^H^H^H^H^H, ah, _research_ record there
PP> made available...

excuse me! I am not a brazen hussy, I am a wanton strumpet. There's a
difference. And before I enter into any negotiations I would just like
to know exactly who you would be making this information available to?

PP> [5] - and you thought [6] emmet a tart !

It's the pheremones...

PP> [6] - (correctly)

Aha, at last there's something in this post I can whole heartedly agree
with.

Carol
---
* SLMR 2.1a * I am in total control, but don't tell my husband.


Angela Hardington

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Apr 11, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/11/96
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In message <04101996...@flyhmstr.demon.co.uk> Mark Lowes wrote:

> [retagged]
> On Tue, 09 Apr 96 22:01:00 +0100, in <8BE5529.074E...@almac.co.uk>
> phil....@almac.co.uk (PHIL WILLIS) wrote.....
>
> >I'm typing this on Tuesday night just as the post-convention depression
> >is starting.
>
> Managed to skip it :)
>
> >The weekend was almost definately one of the best I will
> >ever have
>

> Seconded, a very good con despite the hangover from hell :(


<hands on hips> *You* told me you were ill and it was *definitely not*
the hangover's fault >:-|


--

Angela

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Mark Lowes <ma...@flyhmstr.demon.co.uk> writes

>On 10 Apr 1996 22:03:05 GMT, in <4khb6p$1j...@mule1.mindspring.com>
> Hedg...@photobooks.atdc.gatech.edu (James Brokaw) wrote.....
>>Dick Eney (dick...@access1.digex.net) wrote:
>> Lee Staniforth <l...@roogna.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>> >What ? ppint is MALE ?!
>>> >Yikes, what a revelation.
>>> But consider the source.
>>Well, it said so on my computer screen.
>
>Well it must be true ;) but then again my computer tells me that Win95
>is an operating system so i don't think i can trust mine >:)


>>> "Trust the Computer. The Computer is your friend."
>
>Hmm, this person never met one of the cad stations at work :(

The computer gives you what you want citizen. You are not saying that
the computer in unsatisfactory, are you citizen?

And have a doubling helping of Fun stuff and some happy pills, we have
to make sure that you are a happy citizen?

You are happy are you not citizen?

Citizen?

######
Pl3a53 r3p0rt for t3rm1n8on. U d1d not have suffici3nt cl3aranc3 2 r33d this
article, fr3nd citizen.

Emmet O'Brien

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Apr 11, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/11/96
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Hello, and welcome to another one of _those_ reports. I suppose the Fates
deliberately set out to compensate for the moments of surreal description
in some of my previous reports by providing an experience that would
surpass them in surrealism even if delivered in a completely neutral and
objective tone. [ No Norn Regime comments, Duncan, please.. ]

The subject is Evolution, this year's Eastercon, located in the Radisson
Edwardian hotel near Heathrow. Theories advanced over the convention included
that it had been designed by Escher and that it was inherently organic -
whatever the cause, it was the most successful instantiation of the "you are
in a maze of twisty passages, all alike" school of architecture I have ever
encountered. All gratitude to the kenjo for organising the tricky bits such
as rooms.

Your humble narrator made his arrival on the late morning of the Friday, to
be met, among others, by ppint, Duncan of Duncans, and, in passing, a certain
Ms. Willis to whom we shall return. Allegedly the Friday was the formal
afpmeet, though even with the Bellinghman's increasingly sophisticated
criteria we hovered into and out of quoratitude for much of the weekend.
Topics of conversation have fled my rapidly decaying brain, 'cept I seem to
remember lots and lots of people with those damnable Psion things taking
quotes at a rapid rate. I shall leave the filling in of the grislier details
unto them. And there was evening and there was morning, and there was a mother
of a hangover. Which did fortunately disperse in plenty of time to permit your
humble narrator to rejoin the human race on Saturday, though exhaustion
occasioned an earlier retreat. Somewhere among the haze was the first case of
Unseen University Challenge, at which yhn, the Bellinghman and a strange
hippy won a close and hardfought victory over the Goddess, a friend of Karen
K by name Richard and a man in purple. It is quite astounding the things one
actually remembers.. it was an intimation of things to come. All of us won
chocolate orangs, were more or less insulting to Paul - about which, phrases
involving barrels and fish spring to mind - and a splendid time was had by
all. Heartiest salutations and thanks to the organisers thereof. There were
two strange women fighting in the audience, but they were given a chocolate
orang too. It was at this point that a small bottle of clear fluid was
produced by ppint. Tasting such bottles, I have concluded, without some
intimation as to their contents, is on a par with starting a land war in
Asia in the wisdom stakes. This one was quite pleasant, if very intense,
garlic vodka.

Sunday began with an intimation of things to come: the discovery of the
existence of Leningrad Cowboy beer. By dint of asking politely, a full can was
obtained by yhn, and currently resides somewhere as yet unpacked. An
interesting conversation with Roz Kaveney[sp?], bordering on relevance because
of her association with Neil Gaiman and because it included a casting thread,
though not a Pterry one, eventually degenerated into lightbulb jokes.
Everybody read her stuff. Also on that day, an excited Carol waved some
paper at me as I was entering a lift, claiming it was DW fanfic I should
read. I undertook to get back to this, but as circumstances would have it
was unable to do so. Also during the day, several badges crafted by the
estimable ppint made their appearance, including one defining decadence as
the finest flowering of civilisation worn with pride by yhn, and one reading
"Chocolate Addict". Need anyone ask for whom that was ?

Later in the day, I was inveigled into a belly-dancing workshop by Ms.
Willis, and discovered ways I had never thought I could move my ribcage.
Subsequently, Ms. Kruzycka's insufficient flexibility turned
out to be very straightforwardly modifiable, and it is to be hoped that our
esteemed chairman will take the simplicity and effectiveness of the procedure
into account and acquire the necessary skills forthwith. We also discovered
that not only is he very easy to insult, he is very easy to weird out. Which
was _fun_. My denials that Colm and I are the same person were met with some
polite disbelief.

In later hours, yhn became quite pleasantly inebriated, and was accused of
having pheromones. It seems that the absence of a format for encoding such
cues alongside visual images and audio files has lead to much of the renowned
charisma being filtered out in the more virtual forms of interaction. This
was also the evening of the incredible migrating corridor party, which
vacillated between several locations, almost all of which were completely
identical. During which my memory is just a little hazy, but I can recall
Jo of kenjo being very responsible about my inebriated state and staying up
and partying for an extra _two and a half hours_ to be responsible. There were
Croatians, wood alcohol and ballroom dancing to "The Final Countdown" afoot
elsewhere in the building, leading to the misapprehension that I was
hallucinating. The only other afper a persistent part of the migrating party
was Carol, but she demonstrated a level of hospitability and friendliness
sufficient to do the whole committee proud. It was at some point during this
time that an attempt was made by yhn to read aforementioned fanfic, but it had
to be cancelled when it proved impossible to bear the beginnings of sentences
in mind for long enough to finish them.

Monday dawned with that indefinable feel that the last day of a con can have
when most people have gone home or are going home, and conversations don't
last, but made quite a happy recovery later in the day as a combined room
party and alt.fan.emmet conceptual launch party proved most enjoyable. At
which I thoroughly made friends with Carol, lest there had been any doubt, to
the extent that the kenjo discreetly left for a while, the Duncan read a
Robert Holdstock with _palpable_ concentration, and ppint took photographs.
One hastens to add at this point that participants remained fully clad, though
it has been claimed that removal of glasses on my behalf is on a par with
complete disrobing carried out by others in seriousness of intent. Evidence
countering Pterry's dictum that writing is the most fun one can have with
one's clothes on was collected, and has been preserved on film. Given the
distracted nature of yhn at the time, it is devoutly to be hoped that said
images receive a preliminary vetting before wider distribution, as it is
conceivable that some may be deemed in contravention of taste and decency,
and one was overly distracted to apply serious thought to deeming at the time.
Later, debate occurred about alt.fan.emmet, whether the volume justified
rec.arts.emmet or a split into alt.fan.emmet.mind and alt.fan.emmet.body, and
lots of other ego-boosting things. If one construes the debate and the party
as co-existent, it could be claimed that the party lasted until c. 9 am
Tuesday, but that everyone fell asleep for several hours in the middle. On
the other hand, the image of a convention fading out into darkness and dulcet
snorings may be an aesthetically suitable point at which to stop.

Gap-fillings in are as ever welcome. It is quite beyond my capacities to
remember all of who was there when and so forth as I usually strive to at
such events, and I do recall Mark Lowes promising to unleash all the quotes
made by various luminaries during the event in his presence.

Emmet
--
Curried strawberries are strange.

Mark Lowes

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On Wed, 10 Apr 1996 23:43:11 +0100, in <cCYkFIA$lDbx...@roogna.demon.co.uk>
Lee Staniforth <l...@roogna.demon.co.uk> wrote.....
><ma...@flyhmstr.demon.co.uk> writes
[more snipping]

>>Paul was, well, Paul.
>
>Look 'ere, matey! Leave the cahp alone, alright ?

Shan't! I need someone to take it out on >:)

>>Just ask him about sugar cubes :) Various photos from Manc2
>
>Show me!

Let's just say he was pretending he was a civil engineer.

[..]


>>what was that Hedgehog doing to Paul?
>

>Hmm.. By the use of hedgehogs I take it this was one of the Christie
>Stuffed 'hogs ?

No comment >:)

>>>Sunday was more memorable. I managed to persuade Emmet and Karen that
>>>they should try bellydancing (2),
>>
>>GIF GIF GIF! :)
>
>Here/hear, here/hear, here/hear!

There/there, there/there, there/there!

Mark

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Mark Lowes

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On Thu, 11 Apr 1996 22:09:39 +0100, in <19960411....@andrewm.demon.co.uk>
ang...@andrewm.demon.co.uk (Angela Hardington) wrote.....

>In message <04101996...@flyhmstr.demon.co.uk> Mark Lowes wrote:
[...]

>> >The weekend was almost definately one of the best I will ever have
>> Seconded, a very good con despite the hangover from hell :(
>
><hands on hips>

Oh gods, she's in a bad mood ;)

>*You* told me you were ill and it was *definitely not*
>the hangover's fault >:-|

Well it was beyond the normal for a hangover, the exact details i'll
withold to save afp.

Mark

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Christopher Davis

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EO> == Emmet O'Brien <eaob...@ebi.ac.uk>

EO> The subject is Evolution, this year's Eastercon, located in the
EO> Radisson Edwardian hotel near Heathrow. Theories advanced over the
EO> convention included that it had been designed by Escher and that it
EO> was inherently organic - whatever the cause, it was the most
EO> successful instantiation of the "you are in a maze of twisty
EO> passages, all alike" school of architecture I have ever
EO> encountered. All gratitude to the kenjo for organising the tricky
EO> bits such as rooms.

Pterry-attended conventions seem to have this problem; Lunacon was in the
"Escher Hilton" in Rye Brook, NY (famed for the "7=4" transdimensional
hallway which takes you from the 7th floor to the 4th floor... mind you
the lobby's on 2, and to get from the lobby to the 8th floor with a
luggage cart you take the elevator from 2 to 4, cross to 7, then take the
other elevator up to 8).

I think it's just a wossname, a manifestation of L-Space or something.

Emmet O'Brien

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In article <oqWvvLAC...@roogna.demon.co.uk> Lee Staniforth <l...@roogna.demon.co.uk> writes:
>In article <8BE5529.074E...@almac.co.uk>, PHIL WILLIS
><phil....@almac.co.uk> writes
>>
><Snip most of description of Evolution which I couldn't afford to go -
>sob! - for this enlightening bit>
>>
>>Monday, was a lot like Sunday once again featuring ppint and his
>>interesting spirits, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>What ? ppint is MALE ?!
>Yikes, what a revelation.

YHBT. HAND.

Emmet
--
Wedding rings are neat, but they only protest one finger.


Mark Lowes

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On Thu, 11 Apr 1996 20:08:34 +0100, in <x4D2rHAy...@zeras.demon.co.uk>
Comp...@alpha.city wrote.....
>Mark Lowes <ma...@flyhmstr.demon.co.uk> writes
[...]

>>>> "Trust the Computer. The Computer is your friend."
>>Hmm, this person never met one of the cad stations at work :(
>
>The computer gives you what you want citizen. You are not saying that
>the computer in unsatisfactory, are you citizen?

Yup, the damm thing keeps on eating it's registry, <sigh> I just love
"new" technology, maybe one day mickeysoft will release a nice stable
piece of software.

>And have a doubling helping of Fun stuff and some happy pills, we have
>to make sure that you are a happy citizen?

Hmm, but i'm already having those...

>You are happy are you not citizen?

Well, ask me in 3 months time. ;)

Mark

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Lee Staniforth

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In article <4kgv8f$c...@access1.digex.net>, Dick Eney
<dick...@access1.digex.net> writes

>In article <oqWvvLAC...@roogna.demon.co.uk>,
>Lee Staniforth <l...@roogna.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>In article <8BE5529.074E...@almac.co.uk>, PHIL WILLIS
>><phil....@almac.co.uk> writes
>>>
>><Snip most of description of Evolution which I couldn't afford to go -
>>sob! - for this enlightening bit>
>>>
>>>Monday, was a lot like Sunday once again featuring ppint and his
>>>interesting spirits, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>>What ? ppint is MALE ?!
>>Yikes, what a revelation.
>>
>But consider the source.

Which one ? We're all out of HP. (Ho, ho!)

>
>-- Tamar

I see what you mean: Phil or Carol, Dick or Tamar!
Arrgh! Who's who, and what's what ?

Ricky Walker

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In article <x4D2rHAy...@zeras.demon.co.uk> Comp...@alpha.city writes:

> Mark Lowes <ma...@flyhmstr.demon.co.uk> writes
> >On 10 Apr 1996 22:03:05 GMT, in <4khb6p$1j...@mule1.mindspring.com>
> > Hedg...@photobooks.atdc.gatech.edu (James Brokaw) wrote.....
> >>Dick Eney (dick...@access1.digex.net) wrote:
> >> Lee Staniforth <l...@roogna.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>

> The computer gives you what you want citizen. You are not saying that
> the computer in unsatisfactory, are you citizen?
>

> And have a doubling helping of Fun stuff and some happy pills, we have
> to make sure that you are a happy citizen?
>

> You are happy are you not citizen?
>

As in "Please report to termination booth 3 on level Alpha-1 - your
Violet security clearance has been cancelled. Thank you for your
co-operation" ?

--
Ricky Walker

ppint.

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Apr 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/13/96
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- hi. in afparticle, <4kmvel$e...@ratatosk.uio.no>,
k.t....@stv.uio.no "Chameleon" gently corrected me:
> eaob...@ebi.ac.uk (Emmet O'Brien) wrote:
> (edit)

>> The subject is Evolution, this year's Eastercon, located in the Radisson
>> Edwardian hotel near Heathrow. Theories advanced over the convention included
>> that it had been designed by Escher

- this theory being advanced, at least in the joint afp/afe group,
by yr hmbl spnt; upon the grounds that: the component pieces of more
than one of young maurits' engravings were there assembled (triangular
floorplans with there being something "not quite right" about 'em;
endless flights of steps; four - or was it five ? - floors, apparently
- according to the invaluable "read me" booklet for the convention -
organised in the falling sequence, 2, 1, 4, 3; and a waterfall in the
middle of it all; true, all was not necessarily in the same spatial
relationship as in any one of the creations of that great artist with
which i am familiar: but that does not, ipso facto, rule out the
possibility that the relationships were _topologically_ identical...)
and that the only way found by yr hmbl spnt to navigate the hotel in
a satisfactory manner (i.e., to move from point a, being where one was,
to point b, being where one desired to be, by the shortest possible
route and with the least expenditure of energy and time), was to follow
the rule "always turn in what feels to be the wrong direction".

- an alternative explanation, which i did not air at the time, was
that the architect's blueprints had accidentally been reversed, and
the hotel built was the enantiomeric twin of the hotel designed to
be built. but i thought that suggesting this, at the time, would've
served no useful purpose; each member of the company at any one time
assembled seemed already to be as confused as they might possibly be.

>> and that it was inherently organic -
>> whatever the cause, it was the most successful instantiation of the "you are
>> in a maze of twisty passages, all alike" school of architecture I have ever
>> encountered.

- "you are in a corridor. the corridor is lit by a number of light
sources, with no evident fuel or power sources, some of which have
failed and some of which are flickering. the pattern of the carpet
is repeated, with some variation in the shades of red and blue, as
far as the eye can see: however, it seems slightly out of focus and
gives the impression that it may be moving slightly. it is oppressively
warm, but there are occasional chill air currents. you can hear: in
the distance, a constant murmuring hum; closer to hand, the occasional
blood-curdling scream, interspersed with maniacal laughter. you are
feeling quite refreshed..."

>> All gratitude to the kenjo for organising the tricky bits such as rooms.

- complete with body in the corner, a definite plus mark, but also
with hot and cold stumbling and trampling andrew, leaking at both
ends and wasting _hours_ of peoplecontime... eheu.
>
> A very apt description - although my [1] choice of words after wandering
> around the hotel for three hours trying to find a friend who was also
> wandering around trying to find me was a bit less polite...after that, we
> realized the only way to find anyone or anything was to stay put in one
> place - sooner or later they/it would come to you.

- this is especially true of worldcons, but very definitely true of
all large (= most recent) eastercons. since the forthcoming dwcon
looks set to be of a size with eastercons (750 attending registrations,
+ up to 80 supportings that'll almost certainly convert, or sell on to
those who'll convert them to attending), i'd say it'd be a Good Plan,
if you're intending to meet up with friends, to have agreed beforehand
upon such a "reality checkpoint."

(- for afp/afe, it turned out to be a large round table roughly midway
between the real ale bar and the cheap con food, next to the swimming
pool... plus the migrating sofa/floor party, after dark.)
>
> An exception to that rule was, however, afpers - despite peering at badges
> the whole convention, I couldn't find any familiar names :(

- the only person i noticed, peering at badges the whole convention,
was the vodka vixen: but ms kruzycka had _at least_ an excuse for
this (the combination of her peering at everything, for the length
of the con, with the height off the ground most badges were worn,
compared with that level at which her eyes were to be found. the empty
bottles littered around and about places the good karen left were, of
course, totally unconnected with ms "pronounce my name correctly, or
the bunny gets it".

- for the dwcon, would anyafper familiar with the hotel care to
suggest an afp/afe reality checkpoint ? (failing any such, i can
offer the i.m.t./h.m.bears book/hedgehog room for the purpose, until
better is found; but only during trading hours...)

> (edit)


> > This was also the evening of the incredible migrating corridor party, which
> > vacillated between several locations, almost all of which were completely
> > identical.

> (edit)
[shuffle]
> >
> > (Emmet)
> >
> Although I think I may have passed this at one point, unless there were
> several going on at the same time - unfortunately, as I was on my way to
> collapse in my room, I just passed it by. Maybe next year?

- "next year, in the adelphi" ?
>
> [1] Since I can be classified under the species of "lurker" (I've read for
> some months, only posted once or twice)

- i'm not sure that you can continue under the aegis of "lurker"
_now_, though, chameleon...

> a short introduction might be in order: hello, all :-) That I'm a SF/Fantasy
> fan in general and pterry fan in particular will not surprise you :)
> - in addition, I live in Norway, study political science at university and
> was, the last time I checked, of the female gender [2]
>
> [2] Despite ppint referring to me as a "he" - but then again, ppints being
> either/both/none gender they might, from time to time, mistake others :)
>
> (Chameleon)
>
- my apologies, if such are desired or appropriate: no offence was
intended - nor, it must be confessed, is the occasion remembered;
to both, may i plead "brain damage" plus, i have not been afforded
the opportunity to check ?" - <g>,
- <fx: "quaaaack !" "quaaaack-quaaaaaack !!" "quaack ?" "quaack-quack
quaack-quaack. quack." "quaaaack !">,
& <fx: pid-pat paddle-pat, pid-pat piddle-pat, pid-pat piddle-pat, pid-
pat paddle-pat...(repeats, getting faster, till fades into distance...)>

- fwiw, you may take solace/reassurance in the following dictum:

"in e-space, no-one can fondle your pendulousities/staple your dangly bits"

- love, ppint.

g.l.wilson

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Somewhere on a most erratic Usenet, in article <4kkt89$7...@xivic.ruhr.de>,
w...@xivic.ruhr.de, Wolfgang Schelongowski says...
>
>In <316A5C...@informix.com> Wolfgang Michels <wolf...@informix.com>
writes:
>
<<trim, trim>>

>E.g. pp...@i-m-t.demon.co.uk who posts here does international orders, but
^^^^^
>I don't know if she accepts credit cards.
^^^
>--
>Wolfgang Schelongowski w...@xivic.ruhr.de

and in the very next afpost I see, <Dpr4B...@ebi.ac.uk>,
eaob...@ebi.ac.uk, Emmet O'Brien says...

>In article <oqWvvLAC...@roogna.demon.co.uk> Lee Staniforth
><l...@roogna.demon.co.uk> writes:

>>In article <8BE5529.074E...@almac.co.uk>, PHIL WILLIS
>><phil....@almac.co.uk> writes

<<still more trimmed>>


>>>Monday, was a lot like Sunday once again featuring ppint and his
>>>interesting spirits, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>>What ? ppint is MALE ?!
>>Yikes, what a revelation.
>

> YHBT. HAND.
>
> Emmet
>--
> Wedding rings are neat, but they only protest one finger.

ROTFLOL! (to the point of spluttering coffee all over the monitor. Damn. I
should _know_ better than to attempt to consume beverages while reading
a.f.p., really I should...)

--glinda, grateful for the chance to laugh at something

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food and clothing." --Erasmus


Scurra

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Lee Staniforth <l...@roogna.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>> Paul was, well, Paul.

>Look 'ere, matey! Leave the cahp alone, alright ?

Well, up until Evolution, I hadn't met Paul.
Then I went to the Unseen University Challenge.
I knew which one he was straight away.

Scurra
(who wasn't the phantom heckler at the UUC, honest)


Mark Lowes

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scu...@atlan.compulink.co.uk (Scurra) wrote.....

>Lee Staniforth <l...@roogna.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>> Paul was, well, Paul.
>>Look 'ere, matey! Leave the cahp alone, alright ?
>
>Well, up until Evolution, I hadn't met Paul.

You lucky devil.

>Then I went to the Unseen University Challenge.
>I knew which one he was straight away.

Ahahahaha!!!! ;)

>Scurra
>(who wasn't the phantom heckler at the UUC, honest)

Ahhh now i know who stick in the front row for the real thing.

Mark
<The one lurking at the side moving ballons around>

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The Bellinghman

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On Mon, 15 Apr 1996 20:39:43 GMT, scu...@atlan.compulink.co.uk
(Scurra) wrote:

>Lee Staniforth <l...@roogna.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>> Paul was, well, Paul.
>
>>Look 'ere, matey! Leave the cahp alone, alright ?
>
>Well, up until Evolution, I hadn't met Paul.

>Then I went to the Unseen University Challenge.
>I knew which one he was straight away.
>

>Scurra
>(who wasn't the phantom heckler at the UUC, honest)

No, that was Colin Fine. But since I happen to know and like Colin,
and I can't say the same for you, I'll vote we inflict the authenticly
horrible punishment for heckling on you instead.

Terrible irony.

trunkieslittl...@alpha.city

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Apr 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/21/96
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Just to drop in on the side lines as a Paranoia player who long since
moved onto his seventh clone...
In article <829351...@walley.demon.co.uk>

ri...@walley.demon.co.uk "Ricky Walker" writes:
> In article <x4D2rHAy...@zeras.demon.co.uk> Comp...@alpha.city writes:
(snip)

> > You are happy are you not citizen?
> >
>
> As in "Please report to termination booth 3 on level Alpha-1 - your
> Violet security clearance has been cancelled. Thank you for your
> co-operation" ?
>
> (Ricky)
>
Sadly, friend computer, as level Alpha 1 is all violet security clearance
and I have just been stripped of my security clearance for that particular
level, I will not be able to attend my execution on this particar occasion.
Personally I blame this act of sabotage on the notorious treasonous commie,
mutant, traitor, ppint; quick, scramble the vulture squadrons to terminate
her at once!!!

(Sorry ppint, promise to come down to buy stuff soon).
--
"from ghoulies and ghosties
and long leggity beasties
and things that go bump in the night
Great Cthulu deliver us all"

Citizen BUG-R-ITT (<Trunkieslittl...@alpha.city>)

David Zeraschi

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In article <830126...@alpha.city>, trunkieslittlesnugglebucket@alpha.
city writes

>Sadly, friend computer, as level Alpha 1 is all violet security clearance
>and I have just been stripped of my security clearance for that particular
>level, I will not be able to attend my execution on this particar occasion.
>Personally I blame this act of sabotage on the notorious treasonous commie,
>mutant, traitor, ppint; quick, scramble the vulture squadrons to terminate
>her at once!!!
^^^

>
>(Sorry ppint, promise to come down to buy stuff soon).

Somebody posting from i-m-t and saying that ppint is 'her'

Is this the revelation half the world has been waiting for?

Or is it a hoax or very good forgery?

Enquiring minds want to know.

David Z

PS

It is alpha complex not alpha city. You must be a commie mutant traitor. Please
terminate youself on the spot.

I know of somebody playing paranoia who had to have 36 clones to everyone elses
6. And used them all up.

I like a game that comes up with a tac-nuke grenade that has a thrown range of
50m and a blast radius of 200m

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Midnight Tree Bandit

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Apr 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/23/96
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Sometime in the last week or so (sneckin' freckin news host), Mark Lowes was
seen stating:

>Yup, the damm thing keeps on eating it's registry, <sigh> I just love
>"new" technology, maybe one day mickeysoft will release a nice stable
>piece of software.

But, you see, if they did that, Bill would stop making money because people
would no longer need those upgrades in which "we really really really really
got it right this time. Honest, guv."

-=><=-

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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Rev. Midnight Tree Bandit (ULC) | \\| |\__o The Arboretum
mtba...@io.com | __\\| |\`/ Hedgehog Sanctuary
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Mark Lowes

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On Tue, 23 Apr 1996 06:38:56 GMT, in <4lhqbr$9...@anarchy.io.com>
mtba...@io.com (Midnight Tree Bandit) wrote.....

>Mark Lowes was seen stating:
>>Yup, the damm thing keeps on eating it's registry, <sigh> I just love
>>"new" technology, maybe one day mickeysoft will release a nice stable
>>piece of software.
>
>But, you see, if they did that, Bill would stop making money because people
>would no longer need those upgrades in which "we really really really really
>got it right this time. Honest, guv."

I knew i was missing something blindingly obvious.

Mark

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Midnight Tree Bandit

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Apr 25, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/25/96
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Sometime in the last week or so (sneckin' freckin news host), Mark Lowes was
seen stating:

>>But, you see, if they did that, Bill would stop making money because people


>>would no longer need those upgrades in which "we really really really really
>>got it right this time. Honest, guv."

>I knew i was missing something blindingly obvious.

Delighted to be of assistance.

And once I get Doug's permission, I'm going to start sending around pieces of
the list we compiled for his magazine, "(almost) 95 Ways Windows 95 Will
Change your Life" (e.g. Every time you hear a Stones song, you want to buy new
software. Try to uninstall it and it boils your bunny. You just feel
"fresher".)

ROCKY FRISCO

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MB> >Yup, the damm thing keeps on eating it's registry, <sigh> I just
MB> love >"new" technology, maybe one day mickeysoft will release a nice
MB> stable >piece of software.

MB> But, you see, if they did that, Bill would stop making money because
MB> people would no longer need those upgrades in which "we really
MB> really really really got it right this time. Honest, guv."

It ain't just Bill; it's the whole bleedin' industry.

We're all just unpaid involuntary beta-testers these days.

-Rock

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