ETS owners advice needed.
Steve Aldridge
I have an ETS 700 I installed about 3 weeks ago and I am having trouble
getting dry foam. I am using a pump that was on my 60" venturi skimmer. It's
a LG 4MDQSX (the circulation one). I noted that the instructions called for
a 4MDQ pressure pump. I am seeing the foam level fluctuate from try to push
foam into the cup then falling 8-10" in the tube. If I set it where it perks
pretty good (24 oz cup a day) it is mostly light green water. I was
wondering if this variation I am seeing is because of pressure fluctuation
of the pump or is this normal?
Steve
E/I Tech
ste...@usit.net
Bob C
ETS skimmers are design with specific pumps in mind. The skimmer
will not work properly if it is being driven by the wrong pump. The amount
of air and water that pass through the skimmer have to be just right in
order for the skimmer to perform well.
I noticed this type of behavior with my ETS 1000. Originally, I was using
the GenX pump. The skimmer did not skim at all with this pump. I later
upgraded to the Iwaki 70 RLT and the result was incredible. The monster
skimmer pulls out a large amount of dry foam constantly.
--
Bob C
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Ken Wong
Hi Steve,
I don't think the circulation will do the trick for the ETS skimmers
at all. These skimmers are definitely a pressure application. You
need a pump with enough pressure to push water through a small nozzle
at high velocities. I recommend that you replace the pump.
What you are describing is pretty typical of using an undersized pump
with this skimmer. The skimmer works best with the gate valve
completely open or almost completely open. You'll find that if you
close the gate valve to raise the water level, the air intake will
"suck" in less air.
Yours,
Ken Wong
Marine Depot
http://www.marinedepot.com
Your one stop solution to all your Reef Keeping needs.
We will beat any advertised price by 25% the difference.
Steve Aldridge
I was suspicious of the pump when I first set it up. I called ETS and they
said go ahead and give it a try. I'm really not having to close the valve
that much. I believe its just the fluctuating pressure thats keeping my foam
level moving up and down the column. I'm gonna buy a new pump.
Steve
Ken Wong wrote
>I don't think the circulation will do the trick for the ETS skimmers at
all. What you are describing is pretty typical of using an undersized pump.
P...@petswarehouse.com
WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF TROUBLE WITH ALL THE ETS's AND THE COMPANY IT SELF
THIS SO CALLED COMPANY IS IN THE BASEMENT OF A HOUSE THE SIZE OF A 10X15
ROOM ONE: THE PUMPS NEEDED ARE LARGE AND EXPENSIVE TO OPERATE TWO: THEY
CAN'T USE OZONE BECAUSE THEY LACK DWELL TIME THREE: THEY DON'T RAISE THE
ORP AS PROMISED FOUR: THE OWNER WILL NOT STAND BEHIND HIS PRODUCT AND
WHEN WE COMPLAINED HE (GARY) CURSED A LADY OUT WHO HAPPEN TO ANSWER OUR
PHONE HE IS TOTALY UNPROFESSIONAL. FIVE: HE WILL NOT TAKE BACK DEFECTIVE
SKIMMERS BOB
In article <34ced574...@nnrp.usc.edu>,
K...@marinedepot.com (Ken Wong) wrote:
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> I don't think the circulation will do the trick for the ETS skimmers
> at all. These skimmers are definitely a pressure application. You
> need a pump with enough pressure to push water through a small nozzle
> at high velocities. I recommend that you replace the pump.
>
> What you are describing is pretty typical of using an undersized pump
> with this skimmer. The skimmer works best with the gate valve
> completely open or almost completely open. You'll find that if you
> close the gate valve to raise the water level, the air intake will
> "suck" in less air.
>
> Yours,
> Ken Wong
> Marine Depot
> http://www.marinedepot.com
> Your one stop solution to all your Reef Keeping needs.
> We will beat any advertised price by 25% the difference.
>
> >I have an ETS 700 I installed about 3 weeks ago and I am having trouble
> >getting dry foam. I am using a pump that was on my 60" venturi skimmer. It's
> >a LG 4MDQSX (the circulation one). I noted that the instructions called for
> >a 4MDQ pressure pump. I am seeing the foam level fluctuate from try to push
> >foam into the cup then falling 8-10" in the tube. If I set it where it perks
> >pretty good (24 oz cup a day) it is mostly light green water. I was
> >wondering if this variation I am seeing is because of pressure fluctuation
> >of the pump or is this normal?
> >
> >Steve
> >E/I Tech
> >ste...@usit.net
> >
> >
> >
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Ken Wong
Hi Steve,
I don't think the circulation pump will give you fluctuations in
pressure. It will just give you not enough. It is standard for the
foam level in an ETS skimmer to move up and down a lot.
Yours,
Ken Wong
Marine Depot
http://www.marinedepot.com
Your one stop solution to all your Reef Keeping needs.
We will beat any advertised price by 25% the difference.
>I was suspicious of the pump when I first set it up. I called ETS and they
>said go ahead and give it a try. I'm really not having to close the valve
>that much. I believe its just the fluctuating pressure thats keeping my foam
>level moving up and down the column. I'm gonna buy a new pump.
>
>Steve
>
>Ken Wong wrote
>>I don't think the circulation will do the trick for the ETS skimmers at
>all. What you are describing is pretty typical of using an undersized pump.
Tri H. Tran
In article <886006384....@dejanews.com>, <P...@PETSWAREHOUSE.COM> wrote:
>WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF TROUBLE WITH ALL THE ETS's AND THE COMPANY IT SELF
>THIS SO CALLED COMPANY IS IN THE BASEMENT OF A HOUSE THE SIZE OF A 10X15
>ROOM ONE: THE PUMPS NEEDED ARE LARGE AND EXPENSIVE TO OPERATE TWO: THEY
>CAN'T USE OZONE BECAUSE THEY LACK DWELL TIME THREE: THEY DON'T RAISE THE
>ORP AS PROMISED FOUR: THE OWNER WILL NOT STAND BEHIND HIS PRODUCT AND
>WHEN WE COMPLAINED HE (GARY) CURSED A LADY OUT WHO HAPPEN TO ANSWER OUR
>PHONE HE IS TOTALY UNPROFESSIONAL. FIVE: HE WILL NOT TAKE BACK DEFECTIVE
>SKIMMERS BOB
>
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Sorry to hear that you have so much problem with the company
and the skimmer. I agree with the large pump needed and cost.
However, is there a alternative replacement that you recomend?
Is your experience common with other reef hobylist?
Tri
Ted Stalcup
In article <6aqled$k...@news.service.uci.edu>, tht...@cyclone.eng.uci.edu
(Tri H. Tran) wrote:
Not me, I purchased an ETS800 second hand and Gary was extremely helpful,
assisting me over the phone in plumbing it and so forth. As for the
business being in the basement of a house: who cares...many reputable
companies are in basements, my sucessful consulting company is a desk in
my bedroom with 4 phone lines!. As for raising the ORP, they do just
fine, a properly run ETS will skim a tank efficiently enough so that algae
will flake off in sheets. As for using ozone I actually don't know, what I
do know is that i've found no need for ozone with this skimmer and for the
removal of pathogens one can always use UV.
As for taking back defective skimmers, the warranty is 1 year from date of
original purchase, my skimmer was fine but I'm aware of other cases in
which skimmers where exchanged without issue.-Ted
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Tri H. Tran wrote:
>
> In article <886006384....@dejanews.com>, <P...@PETSWAREHOUSE.COM> wrote:
> >WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF TROUBLE WITH ALL THE ETS's AND THE COMPANY IT SELF
> >THIS SO CALLED COMPANY IS IN THE BASEMENT OF A HOUSE THE SIZE OF A 10X15
> >ROOM ONE: THE PUMPS NEEDED ARE LARGE AND EXPENSIVE TO OPERATE TWO: THEY
> >CAN'T USE OZONE BECAUSE THEY LACK DWELL TIME THREE: THEY DON'T RAISE THE
> >ORP AS PROMISED FOUR: THE OWNER WILL NOT STAND BEHIND HIS PRODUCT AND
> >WHEN WE COMPLAINED HE (GARY) CURSED A LADY OUT WHO HAPPEN TO ANSWER OUR
> >PHONE HE IS TOTALY UNPROFESSIONAL. FIVE: HE WILL NOT TAKE BACK DEFECTIVE
> >SKIMMERS BOB
I've had no trouble with my ETS 600. I've called the company
several times during the initial setup of my skimmer, and
they were always more than helpful and courteous. I have no
problem recommending this skimmer to anyone. There are few
(any?) skimmers that can keep up with the ETS. I don't believe
there's much of a need for ozone in a well-maintained reef
tank. Who cares if he works out of a basement? Finally,
STOP SHOUTING!!!
Cheers,
-AC-