Heterosexuality is a choice... discuss.
belial
>Ya know, Fred. Isn't it special the way these homosexuals moan about how
>people are "discriminating" against them, and to just "deal with it and
leave
>them alone", until someone disagrees with their disgusting lifestyle and
opinions?
>Then they are guilty of the same sort discrimination and censorship that
the seem
>to want to get rid of. As if being a pervert wasn't enough, they must prove
to the
>world that they are also hypocrites.
Wow.. people never fail to amaze me with there stupidity.
of course its different you hypocrital fool, they don't run around calling
us heterosexuals "perverts" for starters.
oh.. hang on.. I think I better remove the cross posts from the top of this
message, and I'm willing to bet you don't reply, must be a bullshit post. I
mean, as if drugs.pot cairs about this bullshit, and whats it got to do with
cyberpunk?
fuck we get some pathetic shit posted to alt.satanism
..belial..
Skriaxit
>Wow.. people never fail to amaze me with there stupidity.
>of course its different you hypocrital fool, they don't run around calling us heterosexuals "perverts" for starters.
>..belial..
Thanks, Belial!
Speaking for myself, I would say you are right: I don't call heterosexuals
perverts. If heterosexuals want to be friends with me, that's fine. Most
of my friends are heterosexual, and obviously don't have a problem with me
being gay. I don't have any problem with heterosexuals... whatever type of
consenting sex a person is into, that should be their business. And it is
a person's right to choose who to sleep with and how to have sex with
their lovers. I claim this right for myself and for anyone else, as adult
human beings we can run our own lives and should not have someone dictate
to us how to live and how to fuck.
You, Belial, have the right to do what you want with your life... I,
Skriaxit, have the right to do what I want with my life. We may express
love or desire in slightly different ways, but when it comes down to it we
are both human (except, in my case, for full moons!) and have the same
basic needs and feelings...
Bigots ignore similarities and focus on differences. I am so glad someone
here (you) has some common sense.
Mantra of protection from bigotry, and of affirmation of unity:
HOT PIZZA
HOT PIZZA
JUICY DRIPPING HOT PIZZA
EXTRA OLIVES PLEASE
EAT IT! EAT IT! HOT PIZZA! (but no garlic right now...)
- Skriaxit the Pizza-Eater
belial
Your welcome.
>Bigots ignore similarities and focus on differences. I am so glad someone
>here (you) has some common sense.
Wow.. I get complimented, thanks.
>
> Mantra of protection from bigotry, and of affirmation of unity:
> HOT PIZZA
> HOT PIZZA
> JUICY DRIPPING HOT PIZZA
> EXTRA OLIVES PLEASE
> EAT IT! EAT IT! HOT PIZZA! (but no garlic right now...)
>
> - Skriaxit the Pizza-Eater
hang on... now I know you're a pervert, you HAVE to have garlic on pizza,
its a fact of life!
..belial..
Kipp Wingler
>
> On Wed, 8 Jul 1998 17:13:54 -0500, "TruthSerum" <Truth...@wcnet.net> this idiot wrote:
>
> >
> >chris while wrote in message <35A3EBEE...@clara.net>...
> >>WIPED OUT ?
> >>
> >>Are you mad or both, hetero needs to be promoted in every which way
> >>possible,
> >>after all several million years of human history says so. Or maybe not,
> >>I just don't know ??????????????
> >>
> >>I agree about the treatment making things better though !
> >>
> >>CHRIS "BLAH BLAH BLAH" While
> >>
> >>Scruffy van Piebles wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 22:35:51 GMT, super...@arrakis.mil (Kwisatz
> >>> Haderach) wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >No it's not, it's an illness that needs to be wiped out.
> >>> >HTH.
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> I would never go so far as to say that heterosexuality is an illness
> >>> that needs to be wiped out. But I think the symptoms can be
> >>> ameliorated by treatment.
> >>>
> >>> Scruffy
> >
> >
> >What should be done with the offspring of same sex mating?
> >
> Send that question to the dope head groups, and I'll bet you
> start a serious discussion.
They're all asshole bandits too, just like the satanists.
Khashdrahr Miasma, MD
>
> On Wed, 08 Jul 1998 20:34:13 -0700, kimi <ki...@vaporizer.com> , an obvious idiot, wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Ian wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 08 Jul 1998 16:45:21 GMT, ti...@pacbell.net (Jeff Dallacqua) wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Wed, 08 Jul 1998 15:26:49 GMT, ia...@spamless.cam (Ian) wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>Nature intended us to procreate,
> >> >
> >> >I love it when people use the term 'Nature' in the same way that other
> >> >people use the term 'God.' Either way, it's some ambiguous use of the
> >> >term just so people can say some uber-entity supports their beliefs.
> >> >
> >> Try again. You sick bastards want to turn everything into a "The religious
> >> are persecuting me" whine. That's not it at all. People were put here
> >> to keep civilization going, that's why there are two sexes and the
> >> reason that it takes both to procreate. You people know it's the truth,
> >> even you fools can't be that ignorant. So, just admit that you are
> >> perverted sickos and you do what you do because you are abnormal.
> >> Hell, your lying hypocrisy is the most disgusting thing about you.
> >
> >has anyone commented yet that the vast majority of all homosexual
> >individuals has been shown to be of higher intelligence, make more
> >money per year, and have a higher standard of living than most
> >heterosexuals?
>
> Okay, site a source for that assinine statement, then maybe someone
> will be interested enough to read the rest of your bullshit. Get to work.
"Back" Ward Stewart probably said so, which is prrof enough for any
rump pumper like Kimi.
belial
>> >has anyone commented yet that the vast majority of all homosexual
>> >individuals has been shown to be of higher intelligence, make more
>> >money per year, and have a higher standard of living than most
>> >heterosexuals?
>>
>> Okay, site a source for that assinine statement, then maybe someone
>> will be interested enough to read the rest of your bullshit. Get to work.
>
>"Back" Ward Stewart probably said so, which is prrof enough for any
>rump pumper like Kimi.
Actually its a correct statement, the reason is that most homosexuals do
eventually settle down into a relationship with a partner.
there income and standards of living are usually higher (at least in my
country, source = dept. of statistics).
the reason for standard of living being higher is pretty damn obvious, they
don't have kids, and for the most part both partners are working, whereas in
many heterosexual relationships you end up with kids, and one partner
supporting his/her wife/husband and the otherone looking after kids.
..belial..
L. Michael Roberts
>
> Ian wrote:
> >
Apparently anybody who does not share your homophobia is an "asshole
bandit"...
+====================== L. Michael Roberts ======================+
This represents my personal opinion and NOT Company policy
Burlington, Ont, Canada - to reply, remove 'SpamSux' from my address
+====================================================================+
Ward Stewart
>On Wed, 08 Jul 1998 20:34:13 -0700, kimi <ki...@vaporizer.com> , an obvious idiot, wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Ian wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 08 Jul 1998 16:45:21 GMT, ti...@pacbell.net (Jeff Dallacqua) wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Wed, 08 Jul 1998 15:26:49 GMT, ia...@spamless.cam (Ian) wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>Nature intended us to procreate,
>>> >
>>> >I love it when people use the term 'Nature' in the same way that other
>>> >people use the term 'God.' Either way, it's some ambiguous use of the
>>> >term just so people can say some uber-entity supports their beliefs.
>>> >
>>> Try again. You sick bastards want to turn everything into a "The religious
>>> are persecuting me" whine. That's not it at all. People were put here
>>> to keep civilization going, that's why there are two sexes and the
>>> reason that it takes both to procreate. You people know it's the truth,
>>> even you fools can't be that ignorant. So, just admit that you are
>>> perverted sickos and you do what you do because you are abnormal.
>>> Hell, your lying hypocrisy is the most disgusting thing about you.
>>
>>has anyone commented yet that the vast majority of all homosexual
>>individuals has been shown to be of higher intelligence, make more
>>money per year, and have a higher standard of living than most
>>heterosexuals?
>
>Okay, site a source for that assinine statement, then maybe someone
>will be interested enough to read the rest of your bullshit. Get to work.
The source of this particular bit of "information" was a series of
polls done by the slick-paper Gay-Lesbian magazines. They were
anxious to sell advertising and the polls were slanted to that effect
-- a not unusual commercial fudging of figures.
SINCE THEN this information has been seized on by YOUR fellow
homophobes to "Prove" that gays and lesbians are not discriminated
against because -- they make more money, go to school longer, travel
more, read more and attend more theater concerts and opera.
The "statistics" were developed in the gay community but disseminated
by the hate-mongers.
You had betters check this one out with the rest of your Klavern
before you pursue it further.
ward
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
"The default condition for a citizen in our republic is that in any
harmless matter he is FREE to act as he will. He is NOT to be
restricted by prejudices and animosity amongst his neighbors --
if THEY wish to restrain him from his freedom, THEY must
demonstrate the public interest in so restricting him."
Uncle Ward
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Mike Silverman
wrote:
> No universal "source", just the fact that there are two sexes for a reason.
Yes, that way we have both gays, and lesbians. It would be pretty boring
otherwise, don't you think?
--
Mike Silverman -- cubsfan at turnleft.com -- Lawrence, KS
http://www.turnleft.com/personal
M.Thomson/L. Fitzhugh
>
> On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 10:54:58 -0700, "M.Thomson/L. Fitzhugh" <la...@sprintmail.com> , an obvious
> idiot, wrote:
>
> >biga...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> >>
> >> ....
> >> > > >> In article <199807060543...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
> >> > > >> nia...@aol.com says......
> >> > > >> >How many of us have been denied jobs,.......
> >>
> >> Funny you should mention that. At one point in my career I happened to work
> >> for an effeminate homosexual. This didn't bother me because, a few years
> >> before, I'd had a neighbor who was a manly as anybody I knew, except he
> >> preferred boys who looked like women to the real thing. We got along fine,
> >> albiet with many an arguement on the subject. However, I was a very active
> >> hetro, and this bothered my gay boss at least as much as gay activity bothers
> >> most who post here and he got even by giving me the only bad performance
> >> evaluation I would ever recieve!! Need I say that he wiped out all the good
> >> will my neighbor had created?? IMHO gays are more biggoted than we
> >> "breeders".
> >>
> >Like my late lover used to say "Just because you're gay, doesn't mean
> >you're fun."
> >--leroy
>
> 5 to 2 he died of AIDS. Any takers?
Perhaps it is me who has lived too long. My late lover, Ron, was one of
the first wave of gay men to die from this virus in 1982. He was
successful in his own computer business, an intoxicating wit -- so full
of a manic good humor that everyone, gay, straight, Black, white,
Jewish, and pagan counted themselves lucky to know him. His family, his
Dad a jewler, his mother a dancer, his sister a sociologist and his
brother a (straight) model, dropped everything they were doing to help
me care for this rare soul during the last three weeks at his bedside
while tubes ran in and out of him, a machine did his breathing for him,
and his uproarious wit was restricted to two taps for no, one for yes,
on his plastic tube for Dopamine (pain killer). As horrible as his end
was, I remember that he loved me. And I will always love him. In a way,
perhaps, he didn't belong on earth -- he was too trusting, too
childlike, too happy, and too generous. But I thank God I knew him.
I was trying to express my agreement with you that gays can be bigoted.
Alot of our "gay" friends disappeared when Ron got sick for instance.
And I have heard racist, sexist, and anti-semetic remarks among gay
people.
We could all be more understanding and remove the log from our own eye
before trying to get the speck out of our neighbor's.
I take no comfort in the fact that now more heterosexuals are dying of
this terrifying, disfiguring disease. I just want the dying to stop.
I don't wish you ill, Ian, you don't know me, you (unfortunately) didn't
know Ron. And of all the things I do wish for you, I don't wish you were
enlightened, or gay-friendly, or even "proved right", I just sincerely
hope that no one you love dies in your arms.
Trust me, it's the worst.
Jeff Dallacqua
>The hypocrisy of slandering religion while crying that the religious
>are slandering you without cause.
I didn't slander religion at all. I was equating people who try to
support their own arguments by saying some noncontradictory force
supports their views, such as God or nature.
I can guess from your paranoia about this that you're quite the good
christian, ey hoser?
>>and be intolerant of people
>
>As stated, that is akin to being bigoted against murders, pedos, or any
>other criminal.
Murderers and pedophiles commit acts that have victims. Who are the
victims when two consensual males decide to have sexual relations in
privacy?
>That's the point moron, you hurt everyone. Your sickness destroys
>the very fabric of our society.
How?
>>It's something your parents woefully glossed over.
>
>Not at all, they taught me to speak up when people are committing
>crimes against society.
Crimes against society? What a load of bull.
>By sucking dick and fucking men in the ass, and trying to
>convince children that it's normal.
Better watch out, I might try to break the behi-men of your children
sometime in the near future. Better tell little Johnny not to bend
over to pick up any loose change on his way home from Sunday school.
>>What makes you think gays only think about their sexual desires?
>
>Uh, bath houses, multiple partners etc...
This is your answer? That some homosexuals engage in promiscuity means
they all do? Guess what? Lots of heterosexuals engage in promiscuity!
Guess that means all of them are sex crave loonies as well.
>Because you are starting with a negative, look it up Einstein, it isn't
>possible.
"It's not possible, because it isn't."
Uh, yeah.
>But they are doing far more damage simply by living such a disgusting
>lifestyle while trying to convince people to tolerate it. Fuck sake, what's
>next, the damn child molesters should be coddled? The murderers?
You don't have to tolerate it. You can piss and moan about it as much
as you want. That's what makes this country great.
Now, while swigging moonshine and sitting on the front porch in your
suspenders, you get the rather bright idea to hop in your pickup and
go fag bashing, than I hope you go to prison for a long, long time.
Maybe they'll lock you up with a rather large and randy cell mate that
will be just delighted to hear what you're in for.
>>It's just a tactic used to attempt to make homosexuals appear less
>>than human.
>
>You are.
If being hoo-man means being of the same species as you, I think I
rather be the crust that collects between your toes.
>Oh shit, the Uncle Adolf whine. You'll have to look that one up,
>I have already shoved that argument down the throat of one
>of your anal raiding buddies.
Oh baby! Please, do it again! Make it HHHHUUURRRRTTTT!
>No, dipshit, it's common sense, something you are obviously lacking.
If it's common sense, then you'd obviously have a much easier time
trying to prove it.
> Almost as pathetic as the way you pervs label everyone who
>disagrees with you as part of some vast christian conspiracy.
Woooo! Paranoia, paranoia. ;-)
>Heh, I so enjoy watching you homos scream "hater".
Nobody needs to scream it, it's pretty relevant to anybody who
observes.
>>Why are heterosexuals exempted from your rule?
>
>They were never included.
Exempt doesn't necessarily mean past inclusion.
>
>You can't read.
You can't think.
>>Once we're done procreating, why continue to live?
>>
>Because heterosexuals live a normal healthy life.
Oh, but of course! Your logic continues to amaze!
BTW, not only did I never slander religion, but I never said I was
gay. In fact, I'm a heterosexual and find it quite amusing how you
jumped the gun on this assumption.
I'll be thinking of you. <smooch!>
Rhias K. Hall
pedophilia for no other reason than that you prefer sex with male
partners.
Choose between playing on the football team...or getting the crap beaten
out of by the football team.
Choose between getting a decent job where the folks you work with respect
you ...or getting a job where every time you go to the men's room the
office "guys" think you're cruising for sex.
Doesn't it make sense to say that if there were a choice to be made most
people would choose the thing least likely to cause them pain?
Just a thought..
Rhias
John De Salvio
Dallacqua) wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 03:02:24 GMT, ia...@spamless.cam (Ian) wrote:
>
> >That's the point moron, you hurt everyone. Your sickness destroys
> >the very fabric of our society.
>
> How?
It's all that synthetic fabric society is now making.
Put a couple of hot dudes together, and the fabric melts.
--
John
NOTE: "From" address is deliberately wrong.
My correct e-mail address is:
desalvio["AT" SYMBOL]monitor.net
mike
>
> On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 08:12:17 GMT, Gurn Blanston <gu...@vaporizer.com> , an obvious idiot, wrote:
>
> >Ian wrote:
> >
> >> There is always a reason for the people who are following what nature
> >> intended to exist. It is the people who are going against nature and
> >> committing the unnatural acts that must go, and go you shall, might as
> >> well prepare yourselves.
> >
> >What qualifies you to be the judge of "what nature intended to exist"?
>
> Common sense, idiot.
>
> >Nothing exists outside of nature, Ian, only outside your perception of
> >it.
>
> Tell it to Readers Digest, fuckhead.
I would take it that the bible you cite for purposes of oppressing gay
folks doesn't have anything to say about obscene language, obviously a
different one than catholics use. Don't quote the bible as though you
were a godly man and then use that kind of language, it's that kind of
hypocrisy that has caused the demise of christianity in the US.
--
-Mike List
mike
of explaining to do on judgement day, otherwise YOU will have to explain
your ignorance and hatred, there's no question that hate and ignorance
cause more harm than any perversion, except those that specifically
victimize people with violence. Judge not, lest ye be judged(if you
don't know the citation for this, you have no right to accuse others of
biblical crimes)
Ian wrote:
>
> On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 07:02:11 GMT, wste...@hi.net (Ward Stewart) , an obvious idiot, wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 05:05:50 GMT, ia...@spamless.cam (Ian) wrote:
> >
> >>On Wed, 08 Jul 1998 20:34:13 -0700, kimi <ki...@vaporizer.com> , an obvious idiot, wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Ian wrote:
> >>>
> Isn't that always the way. The fact that you have provided nothing to back
> up that claim has been noted. Damn, you pervs run fast when pushed to
> back up your claims. Here you are whining "She was wrong, BUT...." you
> fags, always with the excuses.
> >ward
> >
> >
> >
> > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
> >"The default condition for a citizen in our republic is that in any
> >harmless matter he is FREE to act as he will. He is NOT to be
> >restricted by prejudices and animosity amongst his neighbors --
> >if THEY wish to restrain him from his freedom, THEY must
> >demonstrate the public interest in so restricting him."
> > Uncle Ward
> > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
--
-Mike List
mike
>
> On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 10:54:58 -0700, "M.Thomson/L. Fitzhugh" <la...@sprintmail.com> , an obvious
> idiot, wrote:
>
> >biga...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> >>
> >> ....
> >> > > >> In article <199807060543...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
> >> > > >> nia...@aol.com says......
> >> > > >> >How many of us have been denied jobs,.......
> >>
> >> Funny you should mention that. At one point in my career I happened to work
> >> for an effeminate homosexual. This didn't bother me because, a few years
> >> before, I'd had a neighbor who was a manly as anybody I knew, except he
> >> preferred boys who looked like women to the real thing. We got along fine,
> >> albiet with many an arguement on the subject. However, I was a very active
> >> hetro, and this bothered my gay boss at least as much as gay activity bothers
> >> most who post here and he got even by giving me the only bad performance
> >> evaluation I would ever recieve!! Need I say that he wiped out all the good
> >> will my neighbor had created?? IMHO gays are more biggoted than we
> >> "breeders".
> >>
> >Like my late lover used to say "Just because you're gay, doesn't mean
> >you're fun."
> >--leroy
>
> 5 to 2 he died of AIDS. Any takers?
give me a pain.
--
-Mike List
mike
crossposting can you?
EVERYONE ELSE: before responding to this idiot trim your headers, Scott
took a few days off and finally found a new identity, if you look, you
will see that the groups are the same as when he was here before, not
positive proof, but ...
Ian wrote:
>
> On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 22:54:13 GMT, wste...@hi.net (Ward Stewart) , an obvious idiot, wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 14:36:44 GMT, biga...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> >
> >>....
> >>> > >> In article <199807060543...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
> >>> > >> nia...@aol.com says......
> >>> > >> >How many of us have been denied jobs,.......
> >>
> >>
> >>Funny you should mention that. At one point in my career I happened to work
> >>for an effeminate homosexual. This didn't bother me because, a few years
> >>before, I'd had a neighbor who was a manly as anybody I knew, except he
> >>preferred boys who looked like women to the real thing. We got along fine,
> >>albiet with many an arguement on the subject. However, I was a very active
> >>hetro, and this bothered my gay boss at least as much as gay activity bothers
> >>most who post here and he got even by giving me the only bad performance
> >>evaluation I would ever recieve!! Need I say that he wiped out all the good
> >>will my neighbor had created?? IMHO gays are more biggoted than we
> >>"breeders".
> >
> >In other words - from this ONE episode of putative unfairness in ONE
> >performance evaluation you have deduced that ALL gays are bigots.
> >Further you announcer that as a result of this one dubious episode you
> >are justified in wiping out "all the good will my neighbor had
> >created." Presumably with your approval of his pedophilia.
> >
> >You have just flunked your "performance evaluation" in consecutive and
> >rational thought!
> >
> >However, you have gratified me by, once again, revealing the
> >essentially irrational underpinnings to the positions of the other
> >homophobes amongst us.
> >
> >thank you
> >
> >ward
> >
> Ward, you have gratified me in the thinking that you are just as bad as his boss
> in your dishonesty. If you feel you are "right", why must you lie when putting
> forth your argument? It is obvious that by "boys" he was referring to males
> and not children.
>
> Thanks again Ward, for solidifying my views on the natural thought process
> of you pervs.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >***********************************************************
> >"I am constantly mystified by this notion of "disagreeing"
> >with homosexuality -- not unlike disagreeing with Tuesday --
> >like it or not, every seven days, there it is -- TUESDAY.
> > uncle ward
> >***********************************************************
--
-Mike List
Ward Stewart
>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 10:54:58 -0700, "M.Thomson/L. Fitzhugh" <la...@sprintmail.com> , an obvious
>idiot, wrote:
>
>>biga...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>>>
>>> ....
>>> > > >> In article <199807060543...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
>>> > > >> nia...@aol.com says......
>>> > > >> >How many of us have been denied jobs,.......
>>>
>>> Funny you should mention that. At one point in my career I happened to work
>>> for an effeminate homosexual. This didn't bother me because, a few years
>>> before, I'd had a neighbor who was a manly as anybody I knew, except he
>>> preferred boys who looked like women to the real thing. We got along fine,
>>> albiet with many an arguement on the subject. However, I was a very active
>>> hetro, and this bothered my gay boss at least as much as gay activity bothers
>>> most who post here and he got even by giving me the only bad performance
>>> evaluation I would ever recieve!! Need I say that he wiped out all the good
>>> will my neighbor had created?? IMHO gays are more biggoted than we
>>> "breeders".
>>>
>>Like my late lover used to say "Just because you're gay, doesn't mean
>>you're fun."
>>--leroy
>
>5 to 2 he died of AIDS. Any takers?
AH, the voice of the turtle speaks in dulcet tones throughour the land
--
"Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels
and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass,
or a tinkling cymbal.
And though I have the gift of prophecy, and
understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and
though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains,
and have not charity, I am nothing."
And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor,
and though I give my body to be burned, and have not
charity, it profiteth me nothing."
Corinthians
------------------------
Try to think on it!
ward
"There is only one law and that is love.
Only love can conquer death."
Buddha
Ward Stewart
>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 06:54:29 GMT, ti...@pacbell.net (Jeff Dallacqua) , an obvious idiot, wrote:
>
>
>
>>Why can't a homosexual contribute to society just as much as a
>>heterosexual?
Ian explained it all to us --
>
>Because you are starting with a negative, look it up Einstein, it isn't
>possible.
snip>
>You have no concern for society. You know as well as anyone that what you
>do is perverted. Just get some help and join the civilized.
>
snip
>
>No, not really, I think it is disgusting, but it isn't the physical acts that
>bother me as much as the hidden damage it does to society.
>
snip>>
>>So what should we do about all these homosexuals? How do we go about
>>curing them?
>>
>Mental health professionals.
Ian seems not to have noticed that all but a very very few mental
health and medical people do not believe that homosexuality is a
disease and that there is no "cure" for a non disease.
snip
>
>The moral corruption you heap on society is just as bad.
This relentless hate rap frkom poor dim obsessed Ian moves me, once
again to publish my short list of those dangerous pervents who have
contributed nothing to society --
Ganymede, son of the king of Troy.
Zeus, his lover
Apollo: and Hyacinth
Poseidon and Pelops
Pan and Cyparissus
Damon and Pythias
Hercules and Hylas
Achilles and Patroclus
Oriestes and Pylades
Talos and Rhadamanthus
Theseus and Pyrithious..
Narcissus and Amenias
Damon and Pythias
Sappho
Solon
Socrates
Plato
Sophocles
Aristotle and Hertmias
Alexander and Hephaestion
The Sacred Band of Thebes
Julius Caesar
Polycrates
Tiberius
David and Johnathan
Eliagabalus
Erasmus
Hadrian and Antinous
Michelangelo
Botticelli
Pontormo
Bronzino
DaVinci
Il Sodoma
Caravaggio
Verrocchio
Donatello
Friedreich the Great
Shakespeare -- if you doubt this, read the sonnets
Francis Bacon
Christopher Marlowe
King James the first (who commanded the great translation)
Susan B. Anthony
Florence Nightingale
Horatio Alger
Robert Baden-Powell
Peter Tchaikovsky
Oscar Wilde
Herman Melville
Walt Whitman; and Peter Doyle
Gertrude Stein and Alice Toklas
Andre Gide
Natalie Barney
Marcel Proust
Edward Albee
W.H. Auden
Constantine Cafavy
Harry Stack Sullivan
Truman Capote
Colette
Hilda Doolittle
Christopher Isherwood
Archibald Macleish
Somerset Maughn
Yukio Mishima
Stephen Spender
Gore Vidal
Alan Turing
Tennessee Williams
The Kamehameha Kings
Admiral Nelson
(how else explain.éŠiss me Hardy?')
Baron Von Steuben
Shaka Zulu
Ward Stewart and George Vye
Do not be distressed if many of these names are unfamiliar to you --
with a few exceptions they have ALL been important persons in the
history of Western culture and civilization. Do not let your
ignorance be an embarassment to you.
They have been woven through the entire fabric of our culture and
there is no possible amount of rancor or ignorance on your part that
can change one iota of this history.
Ward Stewart
>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 22:54:13 GMT, wste...@hi.net (Ward Stewart) , an obvious idiot, wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 14:36:44 GMT, biga...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>>
>>>....
>>>> > >> In article <199807060543...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
>>>> > >> nia...@aol.com says......
>>>> > >> >How many of us have been denied jobs,.......
>>>
>>>
>>>Funny you should mention that. At one point in my career I happened to work
>>>for an effeminate homosexual. This didn't bother me because, a few years
>>>before, I'd had a neighbor who was a manly as anybody I knew, except he
>>>preferred boys who looked like women to the real thing. We got along fine,
>>>albiet with many an arguement on the subject. However, I was a very active
>>>hetro, and this bothered my gay boss at least as much as gay activity bothers
>>>most who post here and he got even by giving me the only bad performance
>>>evaluation I would ever recieve!! Need I say that he wiped out all the good
>>>will my neighbor had created?? IMHO gays are more biggoted than we
>>>"breeders".
>>
>>In other words - from this ONE episode of putative unfairness in ONE
>>performance evaluation you have deduced that ALL gays are bigots.
>>Further you announcer that as a result of this one dubious episode you
>>are justified in wiping out "all the good will my neighbor had
>>created." Presumably with your approval of his pedophilia.
>>
>>You have just flunked your "performance evaluation" in consecutive and
>>rational thought!
>>
>>However, you have gratified me by, once again, revealing the
>>essentially irrational underpinnings to the positions of the other
>>homophobes amongst us.
>>
>>thank you
>>
>>ward
>>
>Ward, you have gratified me in the thinking that you are just as bad as his boss
>in your dishonesty. If you feel you are "right", why must you lie when putting
>forth your argument? It is obvious that by "boys" he was referring to males
>and not children.
>
>Thanks again Ward, for solidifying my views on the natural thought process
>of you pervs.
Your "natural thought process" has clearly "solidified" to a brick
like texture.
in the above nonsense cited the "neighbor who was a manly as anybody
I knew, except he preferred boys who looked like women to the real
thing."
BOYS who look like women are YOUNG boys -- to suggest that this "Looks
like women" referenced bearded and hirsute MEN is the sheerest
nonsense.
Hackman
>
> On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 08:12:17 GMT, Gurn Blanston <gu...@vaporizer.com> , an obvious idiot, wrote:
>
> >Ian wrote:
> >
> >> There is always a reason for the people who are following what nature
> >> intended to exist. It is the people who are going against nature and
> >> committing the unnatural acts that must go, and go you shall, might as
> >> well prepare yourselves.
> >
> >What qualifies you to be the judge of "what nature intended to exist"?
>
> Common sense, idiot.
>
the same common sense that says the world was flat ?
> >Nothing exists outside of nature, Ian, only outside your perception of
> >it.
>
> Tell it to Readers Digest, fuckhead.
so...are you saying that you trust the writting in that *fine*
periodical ?
If thats the case, then you really DO have a problem....
Hackman
>
> On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 10:54:58 -0700, "M.Thomson/L. Fitzhugh" <la...@sprintmail.com> , an obvious
> idiot, wrote:
>
> >biga...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> >>
> >> ....
> >> > > >> In article <199807060543...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
> >> > > >> nia...@aol.com says......
> >> > > >> >How many of us have been denied jobs,.......
> >>
> >> Funny you should mention that. At one point in my career I happened to work
> >> for an effeminate homosexual. This didn't bother me because, a few years
> >> before, I'd had a neighbor who was a manly as anybody I knew, except he
> >> preferred boys who looked like women to the real thing. We got along fine,
> >> albiet with many an arguement on the subject. However, I was a very active
> >> hetro, and this bothered my gay boss at least as much as gay activity bothers
> >> most who post here and he got even by giving me the only bad performance
> >> evaluation I would ever recieve!! Need I say that he wiped out all the good
> >> will my neighbor had created?? IMHO gays are more biggoted than we
> >> "breeders".
> >>
> >you're fun."
> >--leroy
>
> 5 to 2 he died of AIDS. Any takers?
and you'll what ? Die of terminal stupidity and bigotry ? That would
be about right....
Ward Stewart
>>
>> >>>Ian wrote:
>> >>>
Someone offered an opinion --
>> >>>
>> >>>has anyone commented yet that the vast majority of all homosexual
>> >>>individuals has been shown to be of higher intelligence, make more
>> >>>money per year, and have a higher standard of living than most
>> >>>heterosexuals?
>> >>
Ian, swelled up like a frog and demanded --
>> >>Okay, site a source for that assinine statement, then maybe someone
>> >>will be interested enough to read the rest of your bullshit. Get to work.
Ward responded:
>> >
>> >The source of this particular bit of "information" was a series of
>> >polls done by the slick-paper Gay-Lesbian magazines. They were
>> >anxious to sell advertising and the polls were slanted to that effect
>> >-- a not unusual commercial fudging of figures.
>> >
>> >SINCE THEN this information has been seized on by YOUR fellow
>> >homophobes to "Prove" that gays and lesbians are not discriminated
>> >against because -- they make more money, go to school longer, travel
>> >more, read more and attend more theater concerts and opera.
>> >
>> >The "statistics" were developed in the gay community but disseminated
>> >by the hate-mongers.
Ian, not caring for this answer blustered --
>> >
>> Isn't that always the way. The fact that you have provided nothing to back
>> up that claim has been noted.
Indeed, I have offered nothing to"back up the claim." My citation
would have to be my own observation of the matter referenced --
Do not trouble yourself to accuse me of lying or inventing stuff --
with opponents like you lot there is no possible need for embroidery
of the plain truth.
mike
>
> On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 10:32:44 -0400, mike <tr...@net-link.net> , an obvious idiot, wrote:
>
> >Ian, you idiot, shut up.
>
>
> >If you are correct, then they will have a lot of explaining to do on judgement
> >day, otherwise YOU will have to explain your ignorance
>
> moron. Look up moron while you're there, there is a picture of you slobbering
> on your chin. Btw, who the hell mentioned judgement day? Isn't that a new
> Summer movie?
Close, but as it is a phenomenon that occurs in other species, the only
reasonable objection is IMHO, on religious grounds.
>
> >and hatred,
>
> I hate to spoil your fun, nitwit, but I don't "hate" them for their perverted
> lifestyle and corruption of society, I am simply disgusted by it.
Then mind your own business, most queers don't really want you, I would
guess.
>
> >there's no question that hate and ignorance cause more harm than any
> >perversion,
>
> Ignorant fuckheads such as you who simply accept such perversion and
> coddle this sick bastards are the biggest problem.
or possibly ignorant people who find someone else's sex life to be their
problem.
>
> >except those that specifically victimize people with violence.
>
> Think again idiot, what the hell do you think leads to the violence and crime?
> It is the moral breakdown of society, shitwit. It isn't a hard concept to
> understand, except for brain damaged imbeciles such as you.
Oh no, an angry mob of pastry chefs and cosmetologists robbing and
looting
>
> >Judge not, lest ye be judged(if you don't know the citation for this, you have
> >no right to accuse others of biblical crimes)
> >
> You need a good whack with the clue-bat. I've never accused anyone of
> "biblical-crimes", ya fucking dipshit. There is nothing to be judged, even
> those with limited intelligence, such as you, know that men sucking dick
> and buttfucking other men is wrong, period.
Previously covered. Homosexual acts appear fairly frequently among most
species of primates, although it doesn't seem to have a lifestyle, so
"not natural" doesn't quite describe it
--
-Mike List
Junior
Absolutely fucking horrific describes it pretty well. And using the
"well, monkeys do it!" argument in your own defense is just plain
goofy. Specious too, don't get me wrong, but mostly goofy.
Great Baer
<big snip, much like the one "Junior" must have gotten at birth>
> >> >Judge not, lest ye be judged(if you don't know the citation for this, you have
> >> >no right to accuse others of biblical crimes)
> >> >
> >> You need a good whack with the clue-bat. I've never accused anyone of
> >> "biblical-crimes", ya fucking dipshit. There is nothing to be judged, even
> >> those with limited intelligence, such as you, know that men sucking dick
> >> and buttfucking other men is wrong, period.
First off, I'll just bet you'd like to hit someone with a "clue-bat" or
any other bat, for that matter; violence IS the last refuge of the
uneducated heathen.
Secondly, using profanity truly adds to your credibility. </sarcasm>
Finally, who decides what's wrong or right? In some cases, society, but
in this case, we have what is known as the "victimless crime." The
people who are performing the so-called "wrong" behaviors are hurting NO
ONE. (Not even you.) We DON'T know that same sex relations are wrong,
because it's only troglodyes such as you who say it is, and let's face
it, your opinion doesn't carry a lot of anyone who has ever read a book
all the way through. You obviously haven't, unless it was "Mein Kampf."
Tend to your own life; we're not hurting you, leave us alone.
> >Previously covered. Homosexual acts appear fairly frequently among most
> >species of primates, although it doesn't seem to have a lifestyle, so
> >"not natural" doesn't quite describe it
>
> Absolutely fucking horrific describes it pretty well. And using the
> "well, monkeys do it!" argument in your own defense is just plain
> goofy. Specious too, don't get me wrong, but mostly goofy.
Not specious or goofy, and I'll illustrate why:
1. This is not a specious (or false) argument. You want the
documentation? You asked for it!
agg, A. I., 1984
Homosexual behaviour and female-male mounting in mammals - a first
survey.
MAMMAL. REV. 14(4): 155-185
Edwards, A-M. A. R. & Todd, J. D., 1991
Homosexual behaviour in wild white-handed gibbons (Hylobates lar)
PRIMATES 32(2): 231-236
Erwin, J. & Maple, T., 1976
Ambisexual behavior with male-male anal penetration in male rhesus
monkeys.
ARCH. SEXUAL BEHAV. 5(1): 9-14
Fairbanks, L. & McGuire, M., 1977
Homosexual behavior and female aggression in rhesus macaques.
Paper presented at the Western Psychological Association meeting,
Seattle,
Washington, April.
More of these sources can be found at:
ftp://qrd.org/pub/QRD/origins/homosexuality.in.animals
In the meantime, you'll note that a lot of work has been done on this
subject. Homosexuality DOES occur in the animal kingdom.
2. This argument is not, as you so quaintly put it, "goofy." Why not?
Because, you moron, you say that homosexuality is not natural. Well, if
it's not natural, then why do animals, who are not for the most part
possessed of the human capacity for thought, only behave naturally,
because their "thought" cannot interfere in their behavior. Why does
this matter? Because you, backed into a corner, deride the theory,
dismissing it as goofy without any substantiation or even mere opinion
as to WHY you think that! If you're going to use the argument that
homosexuality is not natural, then you must accept arguments that show
why it IS. If you have no basis for your opinion but bigotry, your no
better than Hitler himself.
Oh, and don't bother dismissing me as "unintelligent." i have, in this
very post, provided more information that that of which you are even
capable. Slink back to your cave, Mr. Cro-Magnon, and lie there.
--
Harry Baer IV
rec.roller-coaster
rec.arts.marching.drumcorps
Westshoremen '96, '97
Mr Shankly
FWIW, Hitler was a homo just like you. Ernest Roehm discovered him
in some homo club and found out he would make a good nazi too.
Ward Stewart
wrote:
Someone posted:
>>
>>Previously covered. Homosexual acts appear fairly frequently among most
>>species of primates, although it doesn't seem to have a lifestyle, so
>>"not natural" doesn't quite describe it
"Junior" -- presumably not his real name -- replied:
>
>Absolutely fucking horrific describes it pretty well. And using the
>"well, monkeys do it!" argument in your own defense is just plain
>goofy. Specious too, don't get me wrong, but mostly goofy.
In the matter of "specious" we have this utterly numb post making
assertions about things which have NEVER been said.
NO ONE has used "monkeys do it" as a defense of human behavior -- NO
ONE!
What has been said by your fellow want=wits and dim-bulbs is that
homosexuality is "not natural." That its is patently nonsense is
easily demonstrated by citing the numerous examples of same-gender
sexual interest occurring in many animal species -- ergo it is
natural.
YOU see fit to claim that we are using "monkeyshines" to justify our
lives when we are simply using this citation to demonstrate to any
sensible reader what a fool you are. Loud, braggadocios, opinionated,
ill-informed, ignorant and tedious.
ward
----------------------------------------------------
"Homosexuality is assuredly no advantage but it is
nothing to be ashamed of, no vice, no degradation.
It cannot be classified as an illness; we consider
it to be a variation of the sexual functions . . "
Sigmund Freud
----------------------------------------------------
Ward Stewart
wrote:
>
>FWIW, Hitler was a homo just like you. Ernest Roehm discovered him
>in some homo club and found out he would make a good nazi too.
Where on EARTH did you get this notion? As silly a contention as has
ever been placed before this or any forum.
mike
> >Previously covered. Homosexual acts appear fairly frequently among most
> >species of primates, although it doesn't seem to have a lifestyle, so
> >"not natural" doesn't quite describe it
>
> "well, monkeys do it!" argument in your own defense is just plain
> goofy. Specious too, don't get me wrong, but mostly goofy.
My point, which I am not using in my defense, (a hint: I'm not gay)is
that most if not all usually trotted out argumentsare based on erroneous
conclusions,like "It's not natural".
--
-Mike List
zoe wilfong
>On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 05:38:00 -0700, des...@monitor.net (John De Salvio) , an obvious idiot, wrote:
>
>>In article <35a6988a...@news.pacbell.net>, ti...@pacbell.net (Jeff
>>
>>> On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 03:02:24 GMT, ia...@spamless.cam (Ian) wrote:
>>>
>>> >the very fabric of our society.
>>>
>>> How?
>>
>>
>
>
Still can't come up with any real reasons, ian?
zoe
zoe wilfong
>Ignorant fuckheads such as you who simply accept such perversion and
>coddle this sick bastards are the biggest problem.
>
Maybe i missed it, but did you ever actually present a rational case as to why
homosexuality is a 'perversion?'
>>except those that specifically victimize people with violence.
>
>Think again idiot, what the hell do you think leads to the violence and crime?
>It is the moral breakdown of society, shitwit. It isn't a hard concept to
>understand, except for brain damaged imbeciles such as you.
Why don't you help us out. How exactly is homosexuality a 'moral breakdown?' It
seems that you are drawing conclusions from a set of premises which you have not
even come close to proving.
>You need a good whack with the clue-bat. I've never accused anyone of
>"biblical-crimes", ya fucking dipshit. There is nothing to be judged, even
>those with limited intelligence, such as you, know that men sucking dick
>and buttfucking other men is wrong, period.
If it is so self-evident, why do you continue to avoid discussing the reasons that
it is 'wrong, period?'
zoe
John De Salvio
> Great Baer wrote:
> >
>
> FWIW, Hitler was a homo just like you. Ernest Roehm discovered him
> in some homo club and found out he would make a good nazi too.
Been reading "The Pink Swastika"?
That "book" has been shot down as pathetic every time the authors
attempted to get it reviewed.
Wreckin' Ball
He can't. Dimas "ian" Nava can't even come up with an erection for a
pretty girl like you, Zoe.
Wreckin' Ball
>
> On Sat, 11 Jul 1998 04:44:36 GMT, he...@there.everywhere (Junior)
> wrote:
>
> Someone posted:
>
> >>
> >>species of primates, although it doesn't seem to have a lifestyle, so
> >>"not natural" doesn't quite describe it
>
>
> >
> >"well, monkeys do it!" argument in your own defense is just plain
> >goofy. Specious too, don't get me wrong, but mostly goofy.
>
> assertions about things which have NEVER been said.
>
> NO ONE has used "monkeys do it" as a defense of human behavior -- NO
> ONE!
>
> What has been said by your fellow want=wits and dim-bulbs is that
> homosexuality is "not natural." That its is patently nonsense is
> easily demonstrated by citing the numerous examples of same-gender
> sexual interest occurring in many animal species -- ergo it is
> natural.
So you would also say that eating one's young, like pigs do, is
also natural. Good thing your type never could reproduce.
Wreckin' Ball
>
> ia...@spamless.cam (Ian) wrote:
>
Because Dimas Nava of Houston Texas knows in his heart that he is
attracted to men, but will not admitt it.
Alan Guest
[snipped rest of banter]
> Absolutely fucking horrific describes it pretty well. And using the
> "well, monkeys do it!" argument in your own defense is just plain
> goofy. Specious too, don't get me wrong, but mostly goofy.
You lot are not arguing about whether it's right or wrong. You're
arguing about whether it's right or wrong to say it's right or wrong.
--
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http://www.macropolis.demon.co.uk/heaven.htm
john
1. why should we give a flying fuck if someone is gay or not? just
because they are gay dosent make them less of a person... (and dont
say shit about "the bible says..." or "its immoral..." morals and
religion differ from person to person. why is your religion the right
one and all the rest of us wrong?
2. trent lott says that homosexuality should be a crime because god said
that it is a sin. if trent lott is so into the bible, what about "give
your money to the poor" and "love your enemy". i dont know a whole hell
of a lot of republicans that would like to follow these.
3. relating to number 2. even if god says that, that shouldnt matter...
in the us there is something called seperation of church and state.
the bible shouldnt dictate the laws of the land.
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> Junior <he...@there.everywhere> wrote:
> [snipped rest of banter]
>
> > Absolutely fucking horrific describes it pretty well. And using the
> > "well, monkeys do it!" argument in your own defense is just plain
> > goofy. Specious too, don't get me wrong, but mostly goofy.
>
> You lot are not arguing about whether it's right or wrong. You're
> arguing about whether it's right or wrong to say it's right or wrong.
Hi and hail. Esoteric knowledge is the only arbiter of right and wrong. Unless
you've done or been done the greek way, you have no business harping on good
and bad. And if you HAVE had the pleasure of pleasuring someone that way, you
and I can only speak for ourselves. Satan's apostle told us that it's good to
keep our noses OUT OF OTHER PEOPLE'S PRIVATE LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!! Is this not
too clear? We are all different. Remember;;; "One man's meat is another
man's poison." or in S.F.,CA "One man's meat is another man's plaything!!!"
And if you don't like it, then fuck you. (...or me, I'm easy...) bunch666
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>> FWIW, Hitler was a homo just like you. Ernest Roehm discovered him
>> in some homo club and found out he would make a good nazi too.
>Been reading "The Pink Swastika"?
Wassat??!?
BTW the reason I ask it that the above looks a little like something
that one of the pop stars over here has been saying (And getting flamed
a lot over!!!)!!
Old Fart!
Doc Holiday
>a few things to say:
>
>1. why should we give a flying fuck if someone is gay or not? just
>because they are gay dosent make them less of a person... (and dont
>say shit about "the bible says..." or "its immoral..." morals and
>religion differ from person to person. why is your religion the right
>one and all the rest of us wrong?
>
>2. trent lott says that homosexuality should be a crime because god said
>that it is a sin. if trent lott is so into the bible, what about "give
>your money to the poor" and "love your enemy". i dont know a whole hell
>of a lot of republicans that would like to follow these.
>
>3. relating to number 2. even if god says that, that shouldnt matter...
>in the us there is something called seperation of church and state.
>the bible shouldnt dictate the laws of the land.
>-- =
Well said.
Doc'Holiday
Junior
wrote:
>Junior wrote:
>
><big snip, much like the one "Junior" must have gotten at birth>
>
>> >> >Judge not, lest ye be judged(if you don't know the citation for this, you have
>> >> >no right to accuse others of biblical crimes)
>> >> >
>> >> You need a good whack with the clue-bat. I've never accused anyone of
>> >> "biblical-crimes", ya fucking dipshit. There is nothing to be judged, even
>> >> those with limited intelligence, such as you, know that men sucking dick
>> >> and buttfucking other men is wrong, period.
>
>First off, I'll just bet you'd like to hit someone with a "clue-bat" or
>any other bat, for that matter; violence IS the last refuge of the
>uneducated heathen.
>Secondly, using profanity truly adds to your credibility. </sarcasm>
>Finally, who decides what's wrong or right? In some cases, society, but
>in this case, we have what is known as the "victimless crime." The
>people who are performing the so-called "wrong" behaviors are hurting NO
>ONE. (Not even you.) We DON'T know that same sex relations are wrong,
>because it's only troglodyes such as you who say it is, and let's face
>it, your opinion doesn't carry a lot of anyone who has ever read a book
>all the way through. You obviously haven't, unless it was "Mein Kampf."
>Tend to your own life; we're not hurting you, leave us alone.
I didn't write any of this stuff you silly limp wristed anklegrabber
you.
>
>> >Previously covered. Homosexual acts appear fairly frequently among most
>> >species of primates, although it doesn't seem to have a lifestyle, so
>> >"not natural" doesn't quite describe it
>>
>> Absolutely fucking horrific describes it pretty well. And using the
>> "well, monkeys do it!" argument in your own defense is just plain
>> goofy. Specious too, don't get me wrong, but mostly goofy.
>
>Not specious or goofy, and I'll illustrate why:
>
Zany?
What moral compass do you think the money is using when he eats the
young of a rival male?
>Why does
>this matter? Because you, backed into a corner,
I bet you hate seeing a guy backed into a corner. Or do you just stare
at his balls then?
> deride the theory,
Theory is it? I thought you were citing PROOF???
>dismissing it as goofy without any substantiation or even mere opinion
>as to WHY you think that! If you're going to use the argument that
>homosexuality is not natural, then you must accept arguments that show
>why it IS. If you have no basis for your opinion but bigotry, your no
>better than Hitler himself.
Hitler? Is there some direct correlation in the knob gobbling mind
between the murderous torture of millions of innocents and calling
someone goofy? You need to start buying looser panties Toots.
>
>Oh, and don't bother dismissing me as "unintelligent." i have, in this
>very post, provided more information that that of which you are even
>capable. Slink back to your cave, Mr. Cro-Magnon, and lie there.
1) Lie there? Are you gonna spank me?
2) All you can think of is laying guys down.... You have a none track
mind there Slurpy.
Pick your fave!
Junior
wrote:
>On Sat, 11 Jul 1998 04:44:36 GMT, he...@there.everywhere (Junior)
>wrote:
>
>Someone posted:
>
>>>
>>>Previously covered. Homosexual acts appear fairly frequently among most
>>>species of primates, although it doesn't seem to have a lifestyle, so
>>>"not natural" doesn't quite describe it
>
>"Junior" -- presumably not his real name -- replied:
>
>>
>>Absolutely fucking horrific describes it pretty well. And using the
>>"well, monkeys do it!" argument in your own defense is just plain
>>goofy. Specious too, don't get me wrong, but mostly goofy.
>
>In the matter of "specious" we have this utterly numb post making
>assertions about things which have NEVER been said.
>
>NO ONE has used "monkeys do it" as a defense of human behavior -- NO
>ONE!
>
>What has been said by your fellow want=wits and dim-bulbs is that
>homosexuality is "not natural." That its is patently nonsense is
>easily demonstrated by citing the numerous examples of same-gender
>sexual interest occurring in many animal species -- ergo it is
>natural.
>
>YOU see fit to claim that we are using "monkeyshines" to justify our
>lives when we are simply using this citation to demonstrate to any
>sensible reader what a fool you are. Loud, braggadocios, opinionated,
>ill-informed, ignorant and tedious.
So now I'm loud? And did you say 'bragadocious'? That is sooooo gay.
>
>ward
Weren't you a little rough on the Beaver last night?
Junior
Guest) wrote:
>Junior <he...@there.everywhere> wrote:
>
>[snipped rest of banter]
>
>> Absolutely fucking horrific describes it pretty well. And using the
>> "well, monkeys do it!" argument in your own defense is just plain
>> goofy. Specious too, don't get me wrong, but mostly goofy.
>
>You lot are not arguing about whether it's right or wrong. You're
>arguing about whether it's right or wrong to say it's right or wrong.
Are we? You make it sound so pointless and time consuming...... Did I
mention I like cookies? And Fajitas. Although I pronounce them
'Fajitas' like all normal people do.
Junior
> al...@macropolis.demon.co.uk (Alan Guest) wrote:
>> Junior <he...@there.everywhere> wrote:
>> [snipped rest of banter]
>>
>> > Absolutely fucking horrific describes it pretty well. And using the
>> > "well, monkeys do it!" argument in your own defense is just plain
>> > goofy. Specious too, don't get me wrong, but mostly goofy.
>>
>> You lot are not arguing about whether it's right or wrong. You're
>> arguing about whether it's right or wrong to say it's right or wrong.
>
>Hi and hail. Esoteric knowledge is the only arbiter of right and wrong. Unless
>you've done or been done the greek way, you have no business harping on good
>and bad. And if you HAVE had the pleasure of pleasuring someone that way, you
>and I can only speak for ourselves. Satan's apostle told us that it's good to
>keep our noses OUT OF OTHER PEOPLE'S PRIVATE LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who is Satan's apostle? I thought it was Barbra Streisand. And is
Satan pro or con ankle grabbing?
>is this not
>too clear? We are all different. Remember;;; "One man's meat is another
>man's poison." or in S.F.,CA "One man's meat is another man's plaything!!!"
> And if you don't like it, then fuck you. (...or me, I'm easy...) bunch666
ick
Junior
>a few things to say:
>
>1. why should we give a flying fuck if someone is gay or not? just
>because they are gay dosent make them less of a person... (and dont
>say shit about "the bible says..." or "its immoral..." morals and
>religion differ from person to person. why is your religion the right
>one and all the rest of us wrong?
I personally have never mentioned religion or God. Keebler Elves and
their nasty ways, yeah, but God? Not me.
>
>2. trent lott says that homosexuality should be a crime because god said
>that it is a sin. if trent lott is so into the bible, what about "give
>your money to the poor" and "love your enemy". i dont know a whole hell
>of a lot of republicans that would like to follow these.
Why are you so into God? Do you think he hates you or something?
Seriously, you seem to be stuck on the eternal life in hell for being
a knob gobbler schtick.
>
>3. relating to number 2. even if god says that, that shouldnt matter...
>in the us there is something called seperation of church and state.
>the bible shouldnt dictate the laws of the land.
Well, if God said it, then it matters. And by your tone, you believe
that far more than most of the people reading this. I don't think
you've come to terms with yourself to the degree some of your
compatriots have. You need to straighten yourself out on this one.
Talk to a priest if you're christian or a Rabbi if you're jewish but
get clear with yourself. You can't fight an attack if you see yourself
deserving of it.
Junior
wrote:
>On 11 Jul 1998 18:32:34 EDT, john <misf...@cris.com> wrote:
>
>>a few things to say:
>>
>>1. why should we give a flying fuck if someone is gay or not? just
>>because they are gay dosent make them less of a person... (and dont
>>say shit about "the bible says..." or "its immoral..." morals and
>>religion differ from person to person. why is your religion the right
>>one and all the rest of us wrong?
>>
>>2. trent lott says that homosexuality should be a crime because god said
>>that it is a sin. if trent lott is so into the bible, what about "give
>>your money to the poor" and "love your enemy". i dont know a whole hell
>>of a lot of republicans that would like to follow these.
>>
>>3. relating to number 2. even if god says that, that shouldnt matter...
>>in the us there is something called seperation of church and state.
>>the bible shouldnt dictate the laws of the land.
>>-- =
>
>Well said.
Well Well.
>
>Doc'Holiday
zoe wilfong
>zoe wilfong wrote:
>>
>> ia...@spamless.cam (Ian) wrote:
Ha ha ha. I got a good laugh out of that, but actually, every once in a while I do
get a straight guy after me. Just my luck, it seems to happen more often than I get
interesting, eligible, young (or not young) females after me.
zoe
Minot Slim
Does this mean you munch the muff?
L. Michael Roberts
<snip>
>
> Hitler? Is there some direct correlation in the knob gobbling mind
> between the murderous torture of millions of innocents and calling
> someone goofy? You need to start buying looser panties Toots.
Actuall there is... Amoungst the millions of Jews, Gypseys, and
assorted people Hitler did not like and sent to concentration camps,
were thousands of homosexuals. Gays were required to wear a pink
triangle, in the same ways Jews were required to wear a yellow star.
The pink triangle that many gays wear today is a rememberance of how
members of our tribe were persecuted, tourtued and killed alongside the
Jews. Amoungst thos millions of innocents murdered by Hitler and his
Nazi pals, were thousands of us gays... don't mind us if we are a little
sensitive when we hear the tumbrils approacking and the ovens firing
up...
+====================== L. Michael Roberts ======================+
This represents my personal opinion and NOT Company policy
Burlington, Ont, Canada - to reply, remove 'SpamSux' from my address
+====================================================================+
Ward Stewart
<News...@SpamSux.laserfx.com> wrote:
>Junior wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>>
>> Hitler? Is there some direct correlation in the knob gobbling mind
>> between the murderous torture of millions of innocents and calling
>> someone goofy? You need to start buying looser panties Toots.
>
> Actuall there is... Amoungst the millions of Jews, Gypseys, and
>assorted people Hitler did not like and sent to concentration camps,
>were thousands of homosexuals. Gays were required to wear a pink
>triangle, in the same ways Jews were required to wear a yellow star.
> The pink triangle that many gays wear today is a rememberance of how
>members of our tribe were persecuted, tourtued and killed alongside the
>Jews. Amoungst thos millions of innocents murdered by Hitler and his
>Nazi pals, were thousands of us gays... don't mind us if we are a little
>sensitive when we hear the tumbrils approacking and the ovens firing
>up...
Worth noting in this connection is the hideous fact that when the Jews
and the Gypsies and the dissident (few) Catholic Priests were
released, the Gays were counted as being amongst the "criminals" in
the camps and were not released
ward
------------------------------------------------------------
The bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals
and 362 admonishments to heterosexuals. That doesn't mean
that God doesn't love heterosexuals. It's just that they
need more supervision.
--Lynn Lavner.
---------------------------------------------------------
Bill long
> Jews. Amoungst thos millions of innocents murdered by Hitler and his
> Nazi pals, were thousands of us gays... don't mind us if we are a little
> sensitive when we hear the tumbrils approacking and the ovens firing
> up...
>
An interesting side note to this.
in 1941 Gerbals (sp?) came to the conclusion that homosexuals were among
Germanies best and brightest engineers and scientists, and that killing
them off was hurting their war effort. After that in order for the SS
to send a homosexual to the ovens they had to justify that he was not
important to the war effort. By then it was too late. Tne brightest had
been killed. Another fact of where homosexuals are persecuted the
society turns violent and disintegrates. Will the fascist never learn?
Bill L.
belial
Ian wrote in message <35b887ca...@news-2.news.gte.net>...
>Okay, thanks for informing us that you are worthy of no future replies,
fuckhead.
YAH! your going to stop replying now then I take it?
..belial..
belial
>>My point, which I am not using in my defense, (a hint: I'm not gay)is
>>that most if not all usually trotted out argumentsare based on erroneous
>>conclusions,like "It's not natural".
>
>necessary to declare "I'm not gay"?
Perhaps he thought it would stop prejudiced people such as yourself from
accusing him of being gay?
that seems to be the way a lot of you argue, as soon as someone has a non
homophobic argument you call them "poo punchers" or some other pathetic homo
implying statement.
and just so you can hassle me, I will now declare "I am not gay, I do
however like my g/f to screw me with a strap on"
..belial..
Junior
<News...@SpamSux.laserfx.com> wrote:
>Junior wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>>
>> Hitler? Is there some direct correlation in the knob gobbling mind
>> between the murderous torture of millions of innocents and calling
>> someone goofy? You need to start buying looser panties Toots.
>
> Actuall there is... Amoungst the millions of Jews, Gypseys, and
>assorted people Hitler did not like and sent to concentration camps,
>were thousands of homosexuals. Gays were required to wear a pink
>triangle, in the same ways Jews were required to wear a yellow star.
> The pink triangle that many gays wear today is a rememberance of how
>members of our tribe were persecuted, tourtued and killed alongside the
>Jews. Amoungst thos millions of innocents murdered by Hitler and his
>Nazi pals, were thousands of us gays... don't mind us if we are a little
>sensitive when we hear the tumbrils approacking and the ovens firing
>up...
Once again, there is a difference between saying "you are goofy", and
throwing you in an oven.
Junior
wrote:
>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:20:28 -0400, "L. Michael Roberts"
><News...@SpamSux.laserfx.com> wrote:
>
>>Junior wrote:
>>
>><snip>
>>
>>>
>>> Hitler? Is there some direct correlation in the knob gobbling mind
>>> between the murderous torture of millions of innocents and calling
>>> someone goofy? You need to start buying looser panties Toots.
>>
>> Actuall there is... Amoungst the millions of Jews, Gypseys, and
>>assorted people Hitler did not like and sent to concentration camps,
>>were thousands of homosexuals. Gays were required to wear a pink
>>triangle, in the same ways Jews were required to wear a yellow star.
>> The pink triangle that many gays wear today is a rememberance of how
>>members of our tribe were persecuted, tourtued and killed alongside the
>>Jews. Amoungst thos millions of innocents murdered by Hitler and his
>>Nazi pals, were thousands of us gays... don't mind us if we are a little
>>sensitive when we hear the tumbrils approacking and the ovens firing
>>up...
>
>Worth noting in this connection is the hideous fact that when the Jews
>and the Gypsies and the dissident (few) Catholic Priests were
>released, the Gays were counted as being amongst the "criminals" in
>the camps and were not released
Once again, and for the last time, There is a difference between
saying to someone, " You are goofy", and killing them and every other
person in their town regardless of their sex. color, religion, or
whatever. Sticks and stones, and all that crap. There just isn't a
comparrison. And you can't even say that it always start with words
and escalates to violence, because in my case, I really don't give a
rats ass. I'm just having some fun until the end of the week, and then
I think I'll bother the pro-abortion types.
Earl Turner
<35A944...@pacbell.net>...
> L. Michael Roberts wrote:
>
> > Jews. Amoungst thos millions of innocents murdered by Hitler and his
> > Nazi pals, were thousands of us gays... don't mind us if we are a
little
> > sensitive when we hear the tumbrils approacking and the ovens firing
> > up...
> >
> in 1941 Gerbals
>(sp?) came to the conclusion that homosexuals were among
> Germanies best and brightest engineers and scientists, and that killing
> them off was hurting their war effort. After that in order for the SS
> to send a homosexual to the ovens they had to justify that he was not
> important to the war effort. By then it was too late. Tne brightest had
> been killed. Another fact of where homosexuals are persecuted the
> society turns violent and disintegrates. Will the fascist never learn?
> Bill L.
>
This is the same thing they said about the jews. I guess everyone was the
brightest and best. Thats why Germany got the jets flying first and had
all thos rockets. We're just lucky they never got the bomb. It was found
at the end of the war that the Germans were close to developing a rocket
that would have reached the entire east coast of the USA. Pretty good for
the dumbest and dimmest.
>
stryver
L. Michael Roberts wrote in message <35A8D4...@SpamSux.laserfx.com>...
>Junior wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>>
>> Hitler? Is there some direct correlation in the knob gobbling mind
>> between the murderous torture of millions of innocents and calling
>> someone goofy? You need to start buying looser panties Toots.
>
> Actuall there is... Amoungst the millions of Jews, Gypseys, and
>assorted people Hitler did not like and sent to concentration camps,
>were thousands of homosexuals. Gays were required to wear a pink
>triangle, in the same ways Jews were required to wear a yellow star.
> The pink triangle that many gays wear today is a rememberance of how
>members of our tribe were persecuted, tourtued and killed alongside the
>Nazi pals, were thousands of us gays... don't mind us if we are a little
>sensitive when we hear the tumbrils approacking and the ovens firing
>up...
Well, obviously Hitler was wrong. He should have left the Jews and Gypsies
alone.
Ward Stewart
wrote:
>Bill long <bil...@pacbell.net> wrote in article
Bill L. asked --
>> society turns violent and disintegrates. Will the fascist never learn?
>> Bill L.
>>
Earl Turner responded, answering Bill's question very nicely indeed.
>
>This is the same thing they said about the jews. I guess everyone was the
>brightest and best. Thats why Germany got the jets flying first and had
>all thos rockets. We're just lucky they never got the bomb. It was found
>at the end of the war that the Germans were close to developing a rocket
>that would have reached the entire east coast of the USA. Pretty good for
>the dumbest and dimmest.
>
It would certainly seem not -- to find apologists in our midst for
Nazi Germany is an astonishment. To find them arrayed against the
recognition of gay-lesbian rights is not surprising and it IS
gratifying.
ward
--------------------------------------------------------------
"Freedom and justice cannot be parceled out in pieces to suit
political convenience. Like Martin, I don't believe you can
stand for freedom for one group of people and deny it to others."
--Coretta Scott King
-------------------------------------------------------------
ja...@iname.com
"belial" <ch...@ghost.co.nz> wrote:
> and just so you can hassle me, I will now declare "I am not gay, I do
> however like my g/f to screw me with a strap on"
>
Really? I've been wanting to try that for some time. Is it hot? Do you worry
about anal tears?
Michael Cooke
heterosexual male is that I won't be cruising his girl. Of course Straight men find gay male sex
revolting - you're not gay. All sex is revolting to a child, without a developed libido. If it really
bothers you that people are having fun and relationships you can't relate to - the problem is yours and
the fact that you're likely a closet case, sexually insecure or never got over being molested at some
point in life. Healthy normal straight men could care less what gay people do as long as its not with
them.
It's a simple fact that gay people have contributed far more than their share (we're at most, 3% of the
human population) to society, to culture and to history - for both good and ill. It's almost impossible
to rattle off a list of great men of history - Leonardo Di Vinci, Walt Whitman, Alexander the Great,
Michelangelo, Plato, King James ... sodomites all. (The gayness of some of these folks is under debate,
but it seems pretty definite all of these men have at least exhibited bisexuality. Plato's own writings
betray him - he was quite open in his prose about his appreciation and lust for the male form.)
Consentual homosexuality and homosexual orientation is a real part of life, part of human diversity
(diversity being a cornerstone of human evoloutionary sucess! [A small population of gays in a
community insures a number of childless adults capable of supporting their community and families more
fully as a function of their resultant greater freedom]). Centuries past, homosexuality was not
entirely a blessing as tribe power was a function of having as many members and babies as possible.
Today, confronted with global overpopulation of people, homosexuality is a necessary good.
Intrinsically, sexual orientation just is. Right and wrong enters the picture when I do something with
my sexuality. To suggest same sex sexual orientation is innately wrong is the same as suggesting a
given skin color or taste for asparagus is wrong. The suggestion can be made, but in the domain of
logic all such arguments are damned as invalid, false and perhaps ad-hominem to boot!
The bottom line is that straight folks are wrong to be anything other than straight. Gay folks are
wrong to be anything other than Gay. Bi-sexuals and the rest are wrong to be anything other than what
they are too!
Iare wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 08:43:13 GMT, wste...@hi.net (Ward Stewart) , an obvious idiot, wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 01:03:38 GMT, ia...@spamless.cam (Ian) wrote:
> >
> >>On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 17:32:04 GMT, wste...@hi.net (Ward Stewart) , an obvious idiot, wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 03:02:24 GMT, ia...@spamless.cam (Ian) wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 06:54:29 GMT, ti...@pacbell.net (Jeff Dallacqua) , an obvious idiot, wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Why can't a homosexual contribute to society just as much as a
> >>>>>heterosexual?
> >>>
> >>>Ian explained it all to us --
> >>>>
> >>>>Because you are starting with a negative, look it up Einstein, it isn't
> >>>>possible.
> >>>
> >>>snip>
> >>>
> >>>>You have no concern for society. You know as well as anyone that what you
> >>>>do is perverted. Just get some help and join the civilized.
> >>>>
> >>>snip
> >>>>
> >>>>No, not really, I think it is disgusting, but it isn't the physical acts that
> >>>>bother me as much as the hidden damage it does to society.
> >>>>
> >>>snip>>
> >>>
> >>>>>So what should we do about all these homosexuals? How do we go about
> >>>>>curing them?
> >>>>>
> >>>>Mental health professionals.
> >>>
> >>>Ian seems not to have noticed that all but a very very few mental
> >>>health and medical people do not believe that homosexuality is a
> >>>disease and that there is no "cure" for a non disease.
> >>
> >>Yeah, one of you anal rangers cited a study from the '70s, that was
> >>quite cinvincing...pfffftttttt.
> >>
> >
> >That study -- and many many subsequent studies have obviously failed
> >to convince you --
> >
> >HOWEVER they have convinced the American MEdical Association, The
> >American Academy of Psychoanalysis, ^The American Psychological
> >Association and EVERY other reputable scientific body that has
> >examined these studies.
> >
> >ward
> >
> So you say, you just can't show anything that proves such a claim. Hell,
> I simply asked you for a URL, and you couldn't even provide that. I am
> perfectly willing to reevaluate my feelings, except there just isn't any proof
> of all these wild claims you pervs keep making.
L. Michael Roberts
>
> zoe wilfong wrote:
> >
> > Wreckin' Ball <mor...@the.new.world> wrote:
> > >zoe wilfong wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 05:38:00 -0700, des...@monitor.net (John De Salvio) , an obvious idiot, wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >>In article <35a6988a...@news.pacbell.net>, ti...@pacbell.net (Jeff
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 03:02:24 GMT, ia...@spamless.cam (Ian) wrote:
<snip>
> > Ha ha ha. I got a good laugh out of that, but actually, every once in
> > a while I do get a straight guy after me. Just my luck, it seems to
> > happen more often than I get interesting, eligible, young (or not young)
> > females after me.
>
> Does this mean you munch the muff?
Who cares? Does it really matter? Does it make her opinions/arguements
any more/less valid?
Texx Abel
Why do you have 'SpamSux" in your spamblock? If you hate spam so
much that you munge your Email address, but still, as a queer, like
to suck other guys' cocks, why don't you go for something a little
more disparaging, like 'SpamIsHetero' or 'SpamBreeds' etc?
The Wizzerd
Actually, he should have left *everybody* alone -- but he didn't. So
now what?
The wizzerd
belial
Ian wrote in message <35a98e4d...@news-2.news.gte.net>...
>>Murderers and pedophiles commit acts that have victims. Who are the
>>victims when two consensual males decide to have sexual relations in
>>privacy?
>>
>All of society, you sick fuck. You are destroying the very foundation
>of morality.
Why is that? or are you just making bland claims in order to be annoying?
>>This is your answer? That some homosexuals engage in promiscuity means
>>they all do? Guess what? Lots of heterosexuals engage in promiscuity!
>>Guess that means all of them are sex crave loonies as well.
>>
>At least try to sound intelligent, fool. It is pretty well known that the
majority of
>you perverts are promiscuous, that's why most of you are suffering some for
>of sexual transmitted ailment. Hepatitis, AIDS, etc., there can never be
enough
>of you suffering with those disease.
HAHAHA! classic.
your upset because homosexuals are more promiscuous than yourself. perhaps
its because you can't get it up without fantasising about other men that you
have such a problem with them being promiscuous?
complaining that other people have sex too much and with too many people
sure sounds like jealousy to me.
as for promiscuity meaning they are dying from AIDS or hepatitis, get your
act together and realise the simple fact that there are more heterosexuals
dying from AIDS than there are homosexuals, because hey, no matter how
promiscuous you are, a condom does wonders.
>>>But they are doing far more damage simply by living such a disgusting
>>>lifestyle while trying to convince people to tolerate it. Fuck sake,
what's
>>>next, the damn child molesters should be coddled? The murderers?
>>
>>You don't have to tolerate it. You can piss and moan about it as much
>>as you want. That's what makes this country great.
>>
>Oh, but I go above and beyond the call of duty, perv, believe that. Simply
>crying about it isn't my style, I go out and do other things as well.
You sound like one of the pathetic people that complain and complain and
complain, and then all of a sudden they have a complete change of heart and
become what they were complaining about. its a common thing, to fear what
you desire. why don't you come out of the closet Ian?
>>you get the rather bright idea to hop in your pickup and go fag bashing,
>>than I hope you go to prison for a long, long time. Maybe they'll lock you
>>up with a rather large and randy cell mate that will be just delighted to
hear
>>what you're in for.
>>
>Too bad, gay-boy, Considering I am 198cm tall and over 145 kg, I don't
>think I'd have much to worry about.
Obviously never been to jail then have you.
>>If being hoo-man means being of the same species as you, I think I
>>rather be the crust that collects between your toes.
>>
>The crust on your mothers asshole is worth more than you are. At
>least it serves a purpose, it gives reason for soap, too bad the slut
>doesn't use it.
Well, statistically thinking, chances are at least one of your friends is
gay (assuming you have some).. now.. consider all your friends and decide
if they serve a purpose in life.
by your logic, if you say no to any of them then he's queer.
but by realities laws of logic, chances are you'd be wrong.
your suggested implication that homosexuals serve no purpose is quite
obviously the rantings of a moron.
>From fantasizing about raping children to this. Is it any wonder people
>are fed up with you perverts.
this comment doesn't really deserve an answer, but I'm gonna answer it
anyhow. As anyone who has followed the thread will know this isn't true of
the person you accuse, you are deliberately taking his comments out of the
context in which they were intended.
although that may stir up some responce later on when people have forgotten
where you got it from, you show yourself up by attempting to use them now.
you are proving that either you are a idiot who only under stands literal
statements (I hope you read the bible, coz a brain like that will really get
you unstuck). or you are a malicious, and yes once again, idiot, who just
wants to stir up hatred by deliberate mis-quoting.
>>>>Once we're done procreating, why continue to live?
>>>>
>>>Because heterosexuals live a normal healthy life.
>>
>>Oh, but of course! Your logic continues to amaze!
>>
>I'm sure it does.
Define a normal healthy life. (and yes, I'm just dying to hear you say "a
heterosexual one", theres nothing quite like a circular argument to proove
stupidity).
>>BTW, not only did I never slander religion, but I never said I was
>>gay. In fact, I'm a heterosexual and find it quite amusing how you
>>jumped the gun on this assumption.
>>
>>I'll be thinking of you. <smooch!>
>
>Well, I've heard the only thing that comes out of Texas is steers
>and queers, and I assume you have no horns. <*smooch* back atcha>
That would be "Beers, Steers and Queers", and that song also proves that
good music comes out of Texas as well.
so just drop dem godamn britches boy.
..belial..
belial
>>Do not let your ignorance be an embarassment to you.
>>
>Try again, anal ranger, I'm intelligent enough to keep my dick
>out of the ass of other men.
Oh, I'm intregued. I notice you specified "of other men", do you engage in
anal sex with women?
if so, I'd love to hear your justification for why two men engaging in anal
sex is any less disgusting or damaging to "the moral fabric of society"
(fuck that terms a joke) than anal sex with a woman.
I ask because you seem very hung up on the issue of homo's engaging in anal
sex, almost obsessed in fact.
..belial..
belial
>> and just so you can hassle me, I will now declare "I am not gay, I do
>> however like my g/f to screw me with a strap on"
>>
>
>Really? I've been wanting to try that for some time. Is it hot? Do you
worry
>about anal tears?
Yep it is hot, and no I havn't yet experienced any kind of tearing,
definately a enjoyable experience.
important to pick the correct strap on too, use a vibrating one that she can
enjoy too.
..belial..
Junior
Do you think if he'd left the Jews And Gypsies alone that he might
have won? I've often wondered about that. He expended an enormous
amount of his resources in killing the millions he killed. Had he
decided to first win the war, and then kill everyone he hated, the
world might have lost to him., and probably would have killed 3 times
as many, maybe more. I wonder if all the murdered bought our freedom.
Doc Holiday
Good argument.
Doc Holiday
wrote:
>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 23:21:37 GMT, wste...@hi.net (Ward Stewart)
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:20:28 -0400, "L. Michael Roberts"
>><News...@SpamSux.laserfx.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Junior wrote:
>>>
>>><snip>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hitler? Is there some direct correlation in the knob gobbling mind
>>>> between the murderous torture of millions of innocents and calling
>>>> someone goofy? You need to start buying looser panties Toots.
>>>
>>> Actuall there is... Amoungst the millions of Jews, Gypseys, and
>>>assorted people Hitler did not like and sent to concentration camps,
>>>were thousands of homosexuals. Gays were required to wear a pink
>>>triangle, in the same ways Jews were required to wear a yellow star.
>>> The pink triangle that many gays wear today is a rememberance of how
>>>members of our tribe were persecuted, tourtued and killed alongside the
>>>Jews. Amoungst thos millions of innocents murdered by Hitler and his
>>>Nazi pals, were thousands of us gays... don't mind us if we are a little
>>>sensitive when we hear the tumbrils approacking and the ovens firing
>>>up...
>>
>>Worth noting in this connection is the hideous fact that when the Jews
>>and the Gypsies and the dissident (few) Catholic Priests were
>>released, the Gays were counted as being amongst the "criminals" in
>>the camps and were not released
>
>Once again, and for the last time, There is a difference between
>saying to someone, " You are goofy", and killing them and every other
>person in their town regardless of their sex. color, religion, or
>whatever. Sticks and stones, and all that crap. There just isn't a
>comparrison. And you can't even say that it always start with words
>and escalates to violence, because in my case, I really don't give a
>rats ass. I'm just having some fun until the end of the week, and then
>I think I'll bother the pro-abortion types.
You mean you were one of the ones that got away ;}
Alan Guest
> Why isn't common sense enough to settle these arguments. The only
> relevance my gayness has to a healthy heterosexual male is that I won't be
> cruising his girl. Of course Straight men find gay male sex revolting -
> you're not gay. All sex is revolting to a child, without a developed
> libido. If it really bothers you that people are having fun and
> relationships you can't relate to - the problem is yours and the fact that
> you're likely a closet case, sexually insecure or never got over being
> molested at some point in life. Healthy normal straight men could care
> less what gay people do as long as its not with them.
>
> It's a simple fact that gay people have contributed far more than their
> share (we're at most, 3% of the human population) to society, to culture
> and to history - for both good and ill. It's almost impossible to rattle
> off a list of great men of history - Leonardo Di Vinci, Walt Whitman,
Walt Whitman - now there's a singer. I love that "Una Paloma Blanca" he
does.
> Alexander the Great, Michelangelo, Plato, King James ... sodomites all.
> (The gayness of some of these folks is under debate, but it seems pretty
> definite all of these men have at least exhibited bisexuality. Plato's own
> writings betray him - he was quite open in his prose about his
> appreciation and lust for the male form.)
>
> Consentual homosexuality and homosexual orientation is a real part of
> life, part of human diversity (diversity being a cornerstone of human
> evoloutionary sucess! [A small population of gays in a community insures a
> number of childless adults capable of supporting their community and
> families more fully as a function of their resultant greater freedom]).
> Centuries past, homosexuality was not entirely a blessing as tribe power
> was a function of having as many members and babies as possible. Today,
> confronted with global overpopulation of people, homosexuality is a
> necessary good.
So does this mean as a result of your greater freedom you'll come and do
a bit of ironing, cleaning and looking after the kids while me and our
lass have a shag and try and make some more. Sounds great.
> Intrinsically, sexual orientation just is. Right and wrong enters the
> picture when I do something with my sexuality. To suggest same sex sexual
> orientation is innately wrong is the same as suggesting a given skin color
> or taste for asparagus is wrong. The suggestion can be made, but in the
> domain of logic all such arguments are damned as invalid, false and
> perhaps ad-hominem to boot!
>
> The bottom line is that straight folks are wrong to be anything other than
> straight. Gay folks are wrong to be anything other than Gay. Bi-sexuals
> and the rest are wrong to be anything other than what they are too!
You're wasted on alt.skinheads mate. Perhaps if some A&R men drop in you
might eventually hit the big time.
--
al...@macropolis.demon.co.uk
Original Skinhead Heaven - a piece of paradise right here on earth
http://www.macropolis.demon.co.uk/heaven.htm
MyKill
Alan Guest wrote:
Nah, it means that when grannie doesn't want to got to retirement home we get
saddled with looking after her. Often we're free babysitters. Mostly it means we
get to fulfill any promise we have as artists, musicians and writers more so
than a person who has to hold down multiple jobs to pay the mortgage and put
food on the table and shoes on the feet of an entire family. In the old
testement theres a bit about how if a father dies his brother should step in and
take responsibility for the family. Only the queer brothers are going to be left
single and open to the possibility.
>
>
> > Intrinsically, sexual orientation just is. Right and wrong enters the
> > picture when I do something with my sexuality. To suggest same sex sexual
> > orientation is innately wrong is the same as suggesting a given skin color
> > or taste for asparagus is wrong. The suggestion can be made, but in the
> > domain of logic all such arguments are damned as invalid, false and
> > perhaps ad-hominem to boot!
> >
> > The bottom line is that straight folks are wrong to be anything other than
> > straight. Gay folks are wrong to be anything other than Gay. Bi-sexuals
> > and the rest are wrong to be anything other than what they are too!
>
> You're wasted on alt.skinheads mate. Perhaps if some A&R men drop in you
> might eventually hit the big time.
For me the big time is Image, Marvel or DC Comics - or perhaps the film
industry. I'm a writer, illustrator and cartoonist. I get to be those things
instead of being a manager of a McDonalds 'cause I'm gay and didn't knock up a
girlfriend in High School.
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/1039/
217 lbs of fun
Texx Abel wrote in message <35AA99...@yerbouti.shepperton.cam>...
Diedrich G. Kohl
Junior <he...@there.everywhere> wrote:
>> Well, obviously Hitler was wrong. He should have left the Jews and Gypsies
>> alone.
> Do you think if he'd left the Jews And Gypsies alone that he might
> have won? I've often wondered about that. He expended an enormous
> amount of his resources in killing the millions he killed. Had he
> decided to first win the war, and then kill everyone he hated, the
> world might have lost to him., and probably would have killed 3 times
> as many, maybe more. I wonder if all the murdered bought our freedom.
An interesting and thought-provoking question.
I hope you realize that only a fraction of the people who might
potentially have read your comment actually did so, because your
track record of typically mindless, unsubstantive ranting has
resulted in most people having simply written you off as a troll
and killfiling you or ignoring your posts. I, for example, just
delete them unread; I only happened to look at this one because
it appeared in a thread below something I had posted myself.
It would appear that you are, in fact, capable of thoughtful
and rational commentary (not to mention pretty articulate
writing). You might want to consider undoing the reputation
that you've established for yourself. You might actually find
the resulting discussion to be of interest.
--Rick
MyKill
As the email came from a person who failed to post the response as broadly as I (or perhaps at all), I'm
assuming a desire for anomymity. (I only read alt.skinheads and groups related to comics, software/warez,
illustration and design)
>On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 18:18:28 -0700, in alt.politics.homosexuality you
>wrote:
>
>>Why isn't common sense enough to settle these arguments. The only relevance my gayness has to a healthy
>>heterosexual male is that I won't be cruising his girl. Of course Straight men find gay male sex
>>revolting - you're not gay. All sex is revolting to a child, without a developed libido. If it really
>>bothers you that people are having fun and relationships you can't relate to - the problem is yours and
>>the fact that you're likely a closet case, sexually insecure or never got over being molested at some
>>point in life. Healthy normal straight men could care less what gay people do as long as its not with
>>them.
>>
>>It's a simple fact that gay people have contributed far more than their share (we're at most, 3% of the
>>human population) to society, to culture and to history - for both good and ill. It's almost impossible
>
>You would seem to have adopted the 2-3% figure urged on us by the
>religious reich -- first marginalize us, diminish our numbers to
>insignificance and then hot up the ovens.
>
>A far far more realistic figure is that between five and ten percent
>of the population is homosexual.
>
><snip>
My 2-3% figure is a very loose approximation of sexually active out of the closet gay people. I'd guess
about 20-30% of human population is actively bi-sexual to some degree. And about 10% is naturally attracted
primarily to the same gender. The catch is that in the world most gay people find themselves in
heterosexual marriages are activly being heterosexual even though its unnatural and unhealthy for them -
even here in liberal America. (I know this from personal experience, I once placed a personal ad for a gay
relationship that got a ton of responses - almost all from "straight" middle aged married men who wanted a
little same sex nookie on the side: these people are all heterosexual according to the census - Its only
fair to reflect that.)
In a High School class reuniun - what percentage of people are gay - openly? -Not ten percent - more like 0
to three percent. -Which is what is real to people who are not gay.
The notion that it is homophobic to claim gay people arn't so many is itself homophobic! (and even in NYC,
a dense concentration of gay activity, gay people and neighborhoods [taking all 5 boroughs into account]
represent barely 15 percent of people [15% of New Yorkers is one hell of a lot of people!]).
-The notion that equal rights should only be extended to those mighty in numbers is the background of
saying gay people are this or that percentage. -What utter contemptable bullshit! If there are only two gay
people on the face of the planet, they should still merit justice and equality! -You and the homophobes
both seem to feel its justified to oppress people to the degree to which they are a minority!
I'm gay and demand equality and see no reason why an approximation of openly gay people shouldn't reflect
reality rather than what we'd like. There's no way to quanitify the number of self loathing closet cases -
and that group must be included to get even a 10% figure. If it could be quantified, the number of closet
cases, its possible only ten percent of people are truly exclusively heterosexual!(Kinsey said that too,
people soon forget!).
Ward Stewart
"Junior" has been rather a puzzlement -- he has, indeed, been posting
yard and yards of juvenilia and "flames" to no possible point or
purpose --
At the same time he has actually posted some posts reflecting an
effort to think about the issues he was so grossly burlesquing. His
thoughtful moments have not saved him from my kill-file
My best suggestion to him is that since "junior" is a fake name he
assume another pseudonym or even his real name to post under and enter
into an actual discussion of what is going on
ward
=====================================================
"Well, art is art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand,
water is water! And East is East and West is West and
if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce
they taste more like prunes than a rhubarb does.
Now, uh.. Now you tell me what you know."
-Marx-
=====================================================
Webquestor
Webquestor
Webquestor
would have had their support up to and through the war. Some of
the scientists he murdered might would have worked on the bomb
and the missiles.
If lamy had not attacked Poland when he did and delayed the war he
could have built up Germany's military more. More important if he
had not been willing to select people by capability instead of race he
could have selected a person of Jewish ancestor (KNOWN) who would
have advised him to take a winning strategy in the war.
This jerk did everything to insure losing the war. Its too bad that
he decided to start the war (Just think - Germany could have really
become a super world power) that ended up in the destruction of
the country.
Regardless of how bad and how stupid his decisons were he had
followers who blindly supported him. Still does. I suspect that most
of the supporters today are people who are clueless to what really
happen. This fallen hero destroyed his adopted country. Maybe some
of these people should start to think about the illogic of supporting
such a racist who hurt Germany so much.
>>>>
>>>> Hitler? Is there some direct correlation in the knob gobbling mind
>>>> between the murderous torture of millions of innocents and calling
>>>> someone goofy? You need to start buying looser panties Toots.
>>>
>>> Actuall there is... Amoungst the millions of Jews, Gypseys, and
>>>assorted people Hitler did not like and sent to concentration camps,
>>>were thousands of homosexuals. Gays were required to wear a pink
>>>triangle, in the same ways Jews were required to wear a yellow star.
>>> The pink triangle that many gays wear today is a rememberance of how
>>>members of our tribe were persecuted, tourtued and killed alongside the
>>>Jews. Amoungst thos millions of innocents murdered by Hitler and his
>>>Nazi pals, were thousands of us gays... don't mind us if we are a little
>>>sensitive when we hear the tumbrils approacking and the ovens firing
>>>up...
>>
>>
Junior
wrote:
>On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 07:21:05 -0700, "Diedrich G. Kohl"
><dri...@bc.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>>On Tue 1998-07-14 01:51:31 GMT, in <35aab8fd....@news.alt.net>
>>Junior <he...@there.everywhere> wrote:
>>
>> >> Well, obviously Hitler was wrong. He should have left the Jews and Gypsies
>> >> alone.
>>
>> > Do you think if he'd left the Jews And Gypsies alone that he might
>> > have won? I've often wondered about that. He expended an enormous
>> > amount of his resources in killing the millions he killed. Had he
>> > decided to first win the war, and then kill everyone he hated, the
>> > world might have lost to him., and probably would have killed 3 times
>> > as many, maybe more. I wonder if all the murdered bought our freedom.
>>
>>An interesting and thought-provoking question.
>>
>>I hope you realize that only a fraction of the people who might
>>potentially have read your comment actually did so, because your
>>track record of typically mindless, unsubstantive ranting has
>>resulted in most people having simply written you off as a troll
>>and killfiling you or ignoring your posts. I, for example, just
>>delete them unread; I only happened to look at this one because
>>it appeared in a thread below something I had posted myself.
>>
>>It would appear that you are, in fact, capable of thoughtful
>>and rational commentary (not to mention pretty articulate
>>writing). You might want to consider undoing the reputation
>>that you've established for yourself. You might actually find
>>the resulting discussion to be of interest.
>>
>>--Rick
>
>"Junior" has been rather a puzzlement -- he has, indeed, been posting
>yard and yards of juvenilia and "flames" to no possible point or
>purpose --
>
>At the same time he has actually posted some posts reflecting an
>effort to think about the issues he was so grossly burlesquing. His
>thoughtful moments have not saved him from my kill-file
>
>My best suggestion to him is that since "junior" is a fake name he
>assume another pseudonym or even his real name to post under and enter
>into an actual discussion of what is going on
But what of the question? Along the same geographical lines, would
anyone have bothered to read Martin Luther's "95 Theses" if his big
bit of bullshit from the previous summer, "The Jews and Their Lies"
wasn't such a big hit with the locals? I do think the Hitler question
is worth a thought, if not a post. Maybe the writer I called an ankle
grabber could develop a novel out of it. Fair recompense that.
Gareth Evans
>
> > Alexander the Great, Michelangelo, Plato, King James ... sodomites all.
> > (The gayness of some of these folks is under debate, but it seems pretty
> > definite all of these men have at least exhibited bisexuality. Plato's own
> > writings betray him - he was quite open in his prose about his
> > appreciation and lust for the male form.)
> >
Umm. To the ancient Greeks, I believe, the highest form of love was that
of an equal.
The Greeks weren't too enlightened about female emancipation, treating
them not far above slaves. Therefore the highest, most pure form of love
was that between two men. It didn't necessarily have to transcend to a
physical relationship, although this wasn't frowned upon in any way.
Also the atheletes competed naked as in an early games, an athelete so
far ahead tripped on his clothing, fell and lost.
Plus you got to see lots of firm young bodies. It floated their boats.
G
--
Theirs an old eks-con whoz bin away,
Now he's bak, no-one safe Spoolchikken,
Ha cha cha cha!
Lord Salisbury
Hitler was an ankle grabber, too. Ernst Roehm turned him out in
the early twenties and then passed him on to several wealthy German
racists who liked his ideas as much as his sexual favors.
Cliff Morrison
(Webquestor) wrote:
> If lame brain Hitler had not gone after the people he did Germany
> would have had their support up to and through the war. Some of
> the scientists he murdered might would have worked on the bomb
> and the missiles.
Even without that, war results might have been very different had the
Russian Liberation Army under General Vlassov been seriously deployed.
Ward Stewart
Now what? Are you referring to the White Russians? If you are, your
post is hilarious! If you are referring to any part of the Red
Russian army and supposing that they chose not to be involved while
TWENTY MILLION of their countrymen died, your post is vile.
Nutsy too!
ward
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
"The default condition for a citizen in our republic is that in any
harmless matter he is FREE to act as he will. He is NOT to be
restricted by prejudices and animosity amongst his neighbors --
if THEY wish to restrain him from his freedom, THEY must
demonstrate the public interest in so restricting him."
Uncle Ward
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
L. Michael Roberts
<snip>
> Hitler was an ankle grabber, too. Ernst Roehm turned him out in
> the early twenties and then passed him on to several wealthy German
> racists who liked his ideas as much as his sexual favors.
I wonder if Eva Von Brawn knew that?
+====================== L. Michael Roberts ======================+
This represents my personal opinion and NOT Company policy
Burlington, Ont, Canada - to reply, remove 'SpamSux' from my address
+==================================================================+
Wiseguy
Hedonism has inevitably led to the downfall of quite a
number of once great civilizations.
Wiseguy
Lord Salisbury
>
> Lord Salisbury wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > Hitler was an ankle grabber, too. Ernst Roehm turned him out in
> > the early twenties and then passed him on to several wealthy German
> > racists who liked his ideas as much as his sexual favors.
>
> I wonder if Eva Von Brawn knew that?
I'm sure she did, she liked to do it with Hitler's dog.
Cliff Morrison
> On Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:41:16 +0000, cli...@post.almac.co.uk (Cliff
> Morrison) wrote:
>
> >In article <35ada7bb...@news.isomedia.com>, valh...@isomedia.com
> >(Webquestor) wrote:
> >
> >> If lame brain Hitler had not gone after the people he did Germany
> >> would have had their support up to and through the war. Some of
> >> the scientists he murdered might would have worked on the bomb
> >> and the missiles.
> >
> >Even without that, war results might have been very different had the
> >Russian Liberation Army under General Vlassov been seriously deployed.
>
> Now what? Are you referring to the White Russians? If you are, your
> post is hilarious! If you are referring to any part of the Red
> Russian army and supposing that they chose not to be involved while
> TWENTY MILLION of their countrymen died, your post is vile.
You must be exceedingly stupid not to reason it out for yourself.
Vlassov's army were mainly former Soviet soldiers, who had been captured
or surrendered. They were re-equipped as a volunteer force ostensibly on
the anti-Soviet side; certainly they were none too enamoured of Stalin's
regime.
If the German government had not been so anti-Slavic their forces would
have fought in *partnership* with Vlassov's, and might well have thus
raised considerable support in Russia, the Ukraine, Caucasus etc...
It should be patently obvious that a different attitude on the part of
Germany would be a prerequisite of this.
Understand it now?
Ward Stewart
<News...@SpamSux.laserfx.com> wrote:
>Lord Salisbury wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>> Hitler was an ankle grabber, too. Ernst Roehm turned him out in
>> the early twenties and then passed him on to several wealthy German
>> racists who liked his ideas as much as his sexual favors.
>
> I wonder if Eva Von Brawn knew that?
I would suspect that neither Eva Braun - his mistress, NOR Werner Von
Braun, his (and later our) favorite rocket scientist were aware of
this non-event.
ward
>
>+====================== L. Michael Roberts ======================+
> This represents my personal opinion and NOT Company policy
> Burlington, Ont, Canada - to reply, remove 'SpamSux' from my address
>+==================================================================+
******************************************************
"When someone with the authority of a teacher, say,
describes the world and you are not in it, there is a
moment of psychic disequilibrium, as if you looked
into a mirror and saw nothing.
Adrienne Rich, "Invisibility in Academe"
******************************************************
Ward Stewart
I am beginning to understand that your assertion is that there was a
formidable army raised amongst the Russian prisoners of war and that
these prisoners were ready to march over a thousand miles of their
motherland destroyed by the Nazis and having made this march would
attack their homeland.
You are a nut and your assertions are lunacy!
ward
Ward Stewart
I am forced to wonder if you could cite one of this "quite a number."
Be warned that Greece and Rome are entirely off your list -- it can be
clearly demonstrated that both of these ascended to their absolute
peaks of power, wealth and influence under homosexual leaders -- not
just tolerant leaders but men who slept with other men as a free and
public expression of their lives.
ward
.
JTEM
: If lamy had not attacked Poland when he did and delayed the war he
: could have built up Germany's military more.
Some have claimed that Hitler blamed the war's LATE start for his failure.
This doesn't take away anything from what you've said -- the man could
have fucked up a wet dream he was so utterly incompetent -- but, rather,
serves to underline the fact that there was no "one" mistake the idiot
made. There was a huge series of mistakes.
John
Al "Scarface" Capone
Jansen wrote in message <35c1c39f...@wahzoo.news.sg>...
>Read a book, dipshit.
Read afn, nigger.
Crusty "little" balls shows he is a lame hypocrite:
Crusty Balls wrote in message <35AAFB...@real.mans.inter.net>...
>It's almost too fucking funny!!! AlJoe, netcopped for
>being a crossposting racist, BY A CROSSPOSTING RACIST!!!!
--
Crusty Balls wrote in message <359EBF...@real.mans.inter.net>...>And I
won't be the only one netcopping your ass.
Crusty admits he got spanked off usenet and re-entered with his real name
> Crusty Balls wrote in message <359C7C...@real.mans.inter.net>...
>Sorry, fucknuts, the only AKA is.....ah, why spoil the fun so soon.
--
El Brujo! wrote in message <353cdefe....@news.swbell.net>...
> You're all right for a fucKKKhead, BWC. I mean that.
Sheila Fournier wrote in message <359EFB23...@tamu.edu>...
>By the way...next time...if you are going to make such ignorant
>postings, at least write an adequate email address so we can give you a
>piece of advice.
Belphegor&Beliar
WHO IS THIS, HILTER......??????
he sounds so, so.....foreign
and further more why didn't anyone notice that this moron spelled hitler
wrong!?!?!?!?
Cliff Morrison
Why not go and actually check out the details for yourself.
It is not an "assertion", it is an objective assesment based on fact.
Now crawl back up your own anus, there's a good fuckwitt.
Dave Mullen
masturbated. I dont know if this snippet has allready been mentioned in
this thread or if its off-topic anyway but hell I just think its really
interesting.
Cliff Morrison
wrote:
welcome to uk.misc ...... (-:
Doom
Hitler incompetent?
He invades Austria, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Romania, Hungary,
Yugoslavia, Holland, Belgium, France, Norway, Greece, "Italy" and a
few more besides. In the process he "gets away" with gassing and
incinerating seven million Jews.
Incompetent, I think not.
He just made one single mistake in attacking the Russians.
-
DOOM www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~thorne
Member of HELL FLAME WARS
"Dog eat dog, every day, on our fellow men we prey,
Dog eat dog, to get by, hope you like my genocide."
Matthew Powell
Webquestor wrote in message <35ada7bb...@news.isomedia.com>...
>If lame brain Hitler had not gone after the people he did Germany
>would have had their support up to and through the war. Some of
>the scientists he murdered might would have worked on the bomb
>and the missiles.
long enough for peace talks had he not attacked Russia. Actually, if he hadn't
attacked Russia, he probably could've taken Britain, and either attacked the US,
or he could've not declared war on the US. Scary thought, ain't it - there are
thousands of ways that Hitler could've won the war, but, thank god, he fucked
them all up.
belial
Steveie wrote in message <35b053af...@pacific.net.sg.ce>...
>Sure, when the criminals are fags, they turn out to be the really sick
>fuckers, Dahmer, who fucked corpses, Gacy, who was just plain psycho.
>I believe people don't understand that a lot of the real sicko killers
sucked
>dick.
Its a real pity you wern't one of his victims
..belial..