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Puff Poofter

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Sep 20, 2001, 12:33:52 PM9/20/01
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In case there's anyone out there who has been in the service and was
separated/discharged (for whatever reason) and is nervous about getting
called up again, here's what I heard from the Selective Service.

PP

From: Richard....@sss.gov
Subject: RE: My eligibility in the event of a draft...
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:56:49 -0400

Dear Sir:

Because you have already been in the military and have been
separated, you would not be drafted if a draft were
reinstated. As far as volunteering for a Service or OCS,
only the Service can answer your questions. You can contact
a Service recruiter from the blue pages of your local
telephone directory under Federal Government.

Dick Flahavan
Chief, Governmental Affairs
NHQ, SSS


> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 1:31 PM
> To: INFOR...@SSS.GOV
> Subject: My eligibility in the event of a draft...
>
> Hello:
> I am writing to find out my eligibility in the event of a
> draft. I have the following questions:
> I was in the United States Air Force from 9/12/89 to
> 10/06/89. I was given an entry level separation on 10/6
> and a "2-C" reenlistment code for a Condition that
> Interferes with Military Service - Not Disability -
> Character and Behavior Disorder". Will I still be subject
> to possible call up in the event of a draft?
> If I am eligible for call%20up, would I have the chance to
> enlist in the service of my choice?
> I am a college graduate, with some graduate school. Would
> I be eligible for Officers' Candidate School, or would I
> be forced to enter as an enlisted man?


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Chief Thracian

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Sep 20, 2001, 2:30:14 PM9/20/01
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 12:33:52 -0400, "Puff Poofter"
<trouser...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>In case there's anyone out there who has been in the service and was
>separated/discharged (for whatever reason) and is nervous about getting
>called up again, here's what I heard from the Selective Service.

I guess there will be no country this time around, willing to provide
sanctuary for draft dodgers, like we had for Vietnam (I was #43 on the
Nixon lottery, but got out anyway, on grounds of my homosexuality
...now, I regret not just packing my bag and hitching to Canada.) The
only places that will probably accept draft dodgers are Muslim
nations.


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David Thompson

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Sep 21, 2001, 1:11:14 PM9/21/01
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Chief Thracian wrote:

> I guess there will be no country this time around, willing to provide sanctuary
> for draft dodgers, like we had for Vietnam (I was #43 on the Nixon lottery, but

> got out anyway, on grounds of my homosexuality...now, I regret not just packing my


> bag and hitching to Canada.) The only places that will probably accept draft
> dodgers are Muslim nations.

I suppose that the fact that I'm responding to another of CT's posts indicates the
type of world we live in but my one possible justification can be that it's not
really his post that I'm responding to but rather to the entire gays in the new
military issue.

Perry Watkins was a Vietnam draftee who told his draft board that he was a
homosexual. His petition to be denied induction based on this fact was refused and
he served in the military. After numerous reinlistments, he was denied the right to
serve based on his homosexuality. A federal court of appeals initially overturned
the ban as being unconstitutional but later reconsidered and limited the ruling to
say that open homosexuals cannot be refused reinlistment after having already
enlisted when their orientation was known.

My contention: Those who are allowed to continue serving were not out of the closet
when they did enlist but did come out and were not immediately discharged. This can
be the next logical step in tearing down the ban.

Of course, I'm equally ambivalent about losing then ban when there is not a measure
to prevent a military draft. It's a simple matter of balancing my rights as a gay
man to my rights as an American.

This is probably the reason discharges under DADT skyrocketed; soldiers who didn't
want to be soldiers--whether gay or straight--would tell their commanding officers
they were gay to get out of the military.


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Chief Thracian

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Sep 21, 2001, 3:26:20 PM9/21/01
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On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 10:11:14 -0700, David Thompson
<david_ala...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>This is probably the reason discharges under
>DADT skyrocketed; soldiers who didn't want
>to be soldiers--whether gay or straight--would
>tell their commanding officers they were gay
>to get out of the military.

That is most likely true, in that it may account for a large
percentage of homosexual discharges (pun intended). However, I also
conjecture that many were discharged without ever letting anyone know
they're gay...but were written up under such a premise. After all, if
one does not stare at women's hooters all the time, or whistle at
ladies, etc....one is then assumed queer. And it doesn't take much
inspiration for a homophobic soldier to accuse such a person of
talking about being gay. How honest is this DADT process, any way? I
guess it's rather corrupt, considering the raging homophobia that
remains an intrinsic part of Amerikan society.

So I'd say that--like society at large--homophobic attacks have risen
sharply in the last several years, in the military. Therefore, I
conclude that many more discharges have been carried out upon soldiers
who are legitimately gay, in recent years. But I also conclude that
your own conjecture is a considerable part of the mix.


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