*F* Een gezellige regenachtige zondagmiddag in Amsterdam [1]
Tim T.
Ok.. I got elected to do the report, and I'm not very good at this
sort of thing, so please bear with me.. I'll try to do it proper,
with footnotes and everything..
It all started, for me anyway, with the very pleasant experience of
making a phonecall, at some impossible hour [3], to get Don Alfonso
(keeper of the sacred cigarette lighter) to meet me at Utrecht
station, to go to Amsterdam. Ok, so it was early... sorry
Fonz... Perhaps I should not have let the pleasure show so much...
Amsterdam, 12:30 nice and sunny. We hijacked a couple of very nice
seats outside Cafe Americain, and ordered coffee.
Amsterdam, 12:35 pissing down. Rob (Collier, the duty Bjorn) and Leo
(the keeper of the APF) appeared. More coffee..
Alex (the eternally harassed) appeared from somewhere.. yet more
coffee.
And finally Alan (Conell, non-smoker [4], token Irishman, and essential
part of every dutch AFP meet so far) showed up, minus
sister... Yet more coffee, and still more rain.
Alex explained why he was in Amsterdam (company jolly) and reported
on the events of Saturday night.. Sounded like quite a party. Leo
suggested mooning AFP, using a camera connected to the internet he
and Rob had spotted in a shop window somewhere. (Good thing we
forgot about that, I think..)
The rain let up, and since it was a valid lunchtime, and we got
bored of waiting for Bjorn, we decided to get some lunch.
Navigating on automatic, we crossed the Leidseplein and moved
towards the Burger King. I suggested we go for traditional dutch
chinese indonesian food, so we turned left... Unfortunately, the
nearest chinese restaurant was closed. Leo suggested pancakes
instead. However, the recommended restaurant was quite a long way
away, and my shortcut didn't really work.
Dutch pancakes.. how can I describe them. Think wagon wheels, think
bacon, pinapple, banananana and, simply because I like them that
way, a fried egg on top. Sprinkle liberally with syrup (beet,
butterscotch and for some reason, 'rinse appelstroop[5]'. Coffee
and chocolate to follow.
And no, we did not forget to harras Alex... He never answered Leo's
question, that I can remember... And of course, it rained..
Time for a drink... definitely time for a drink... I vaguely
remembered a pub (de Oorlam, or is it 'de Doelen' ? Not even the
pub itself seems to know) where they serve a decent pint of
Guinness, so we set of across town. I did manage to find the pub on
the second try, which is something of ae record for me.
Photographs from DW con and earlier meets were produced.. For those
of you who don't remember Fonz, he's the fellow looking
benevolently on while Emmet goes to work on the afp blind date
contestants. We all examined the collection of Bjorn
photographs. Leo explained why he was sliding under the
table.. nice story, Leo, and everybody once again agreed that Joan
looked simply amazing..
The usual subjects (roundabouts, beer, books, portable phones, afp,
barometers, history (particularly that of Suriname) etc. ) were
broached, and somebody was proposed to (by proxy.. Have you told
your sister yet, Alan ?). No psions present... Perhaps the only
flaw in an otherwise perfect meet.
Apfcon 97 was discussed: it was decided that holding it in
Amsterdam [6] would be like herding cats, so we decided on
Lutjebroek [7] instead. We did consider holding the meet in
international waters [8], on a minicruise on one of the ferries.
And it rained... Good thing we were inside most of the time.
The meeting ended around half past seven[9], in the rain, eating
hotdogs outside the Central station.
All in all, a wonderful time was had by all, and we're looking
forward to the next meet (Who's coming over next, people ?)
TimT (Keeper of the rubber chicken [10])
[1] A 'gezellige [2]' rainy sunday afternoon in Amsterdam
[2] We couldn't find a translation for this term... Think Christmas at
home with the family...
[3] 9 a.m. I didn't know there was anything like a 9 a.m. on sunday
morning.
[4] Sure...
[5] appelstroop: a syrup made from apples.. rinse, yeah, well, dutch
is sometimes a foreign language to me: somebody claimed it meant
sweet, I think it means something like acid..
[6] *If* the meet actually takes place in Holland, that is..
[7] And why not, indeed: about time something historical took place
there... about the only way we can be sure of getting a plaque.
[8] Anybody got a friend in the navy, who might be able to loan us an
aircraft carrier for four days ?
[9] Some of us have jobs to get to, you know.
[10] Which had to be excused, since I forgot to bring it.. Sorry.
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>[5] appelstroop: a syrup made from apples.. rinse, yeah, well, dutch
> is sometimes a foreign language to me: somebody claimed it meant
> sweet, I think it means something like acid..
It's a brand name. Syrup made by Rinse Appleboilersson and descendants.
Reinder
sami...@noord.bart.nl
http://www.noord.bart.nl/~samizdat/rd.htm
Alan Connell
Sometime, somewhere in alt.fan.pratchett,
ti...@iaehv.nl (Tim T.) penned the following :
> Ok.. I got elected to do the report, and I'm not very good at this
Only because the rest of us said we weren't going to do it.
> And finally Alan (Conell, non-smoker [4], token Irishman, and essential
> part of every dutch AFP meet so far) showed up,
I got lost (as I always do trying to get to Leidesplein) and I
was quite wet and very hung-over. See comment on rain above.
> minus sister... Yet more coffee, and still more rain.
A little too much beer was consumed the night before. You
know the way you go out for one beer. That happened to us
the Saturday night. The 'one' beer was found at about number
7 or 8. I think I left the pub at 3.00 in the morning, and had
to catch a train at 9.15 to get to the meet.
> away, and my shortcut didn't really work.
No, but we saw a little bit more of Amsterdams canals. *And* we
passed by Anne Franks house.
> Dutch pancakes.. how can I describe them. Think wagon wheels, think
> bacon, pinapple, banananana and, simply because I like them that
> way, a fried egg on top. Sprinkle liberally with syrup (beet,
> butterscotch and for some reason, 'rinse appelstroop[5]'. Coffee
> and chocolate to follow.
I really didn't think that a tomato, onion, and mushroom pancake would
be nice with syrup. Believe or not, it improved it. Lovely!.
> question, that I can remember... And of course, it rained..
I was told it was a very nice day here all day.
> Time for a drink... definitely time for a drink... I vaguely
> remembered a pub (de Oorlam, or is it 'de Doelen' ? Not even the
> pub itself seems to know) where they serve a decent pint of
> Guinness,
Well, the black stuff wasn't too bad, but I had to change to a
local brew after the first.
> so we set of across town. I did manage to find the pub on
> the second try, which is something of ae record for me.
I still think you were completly lost Tim, and you just found the
pub by accident.
> table.. nice story, Leo, and everybody once again agreed that Joan
> looked simply amazing..
And that the fact that the photo of Karen (aka The Vodka Vixen) is the
most downloaded picture from L-Space at the moment. A very nice
picture it is too.
> broached, and somebody was proposed to (by proxy.. Have you told
> your sister yet, Alan ?).
I asked her yesterday for you. She, umm, didn't say no, only kind
of hummed and hawed because I showed her a picture of you being
supported by a rubber chicken at the Con.
> Apfcon 97 was discussed: it was decided that holding it in
> Amsterdam [6] would be like herding cats, so we decided on
> Lutjebroek [7] instead. We did consider holding the meet in
> international waters [8], on a minicruise on one of the ferries.
> And it rained... Good thing we were inside most of the time.
Yeah. I only got wet once. And that was only because I got lost
trying to find Leidesplein because somebody suggested that we meet
there. I have a nasty feeling that that sombody might have been me.
> The meeting ended around half past seven[9], in the rain, eating
> hotdogs outside the Central station.
Got on my train to Brussels at 20.30, and had to sit opposite a
hyper-active child for over 2 hours, while his parents ignored him
kicking me while I was trying to sleep. Thank god they got out at
Roosendaal. I was getting just a little bit miffed with them.
>[4] Sure...
No really!
>[5] appelstroop: a syrup made from apples.. rinse, yeah, well, dutch
> is sometimes a foreign language to me:
Would that make it double dutch ?.
> there... about the only way we can be sure of getting a plaque.
I parsed this a getting a plague. Impressions of the Netherlands and
all that ?.
Definatly a good meet. I really must try and make it over to the
UK at some stage and go to one of those meets.
Big Al.
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I only work here. I do not speak for my employers.
All Done Bye bye!
Tim T.
In article <4upr8r$gh8...@gn6.noord.bart.nl>,
sami...@noord.bart.nl (Reinder Dijkhuis) writes:
>In article <4unmgg$8...@dibbler.iaehv.nl>, ti...@iaehv.nl (Tim T.) wrote:
>
>> is sometimes a foreign language to me: somebody claimed it meant
>> sweet, I think it means something like acid..
>
Not really: My ex-wife once brought a tin of Rinse Perenstroop [1]
home from limburg: different brand from the Appelstroop.. which by
the way traditionally has a nice picture of a boy opening a tin of
appelstroop which incidentally has a nice picture of a boy... you
get the idea... In holland, this is referred to as the Droste [2]
effect: I expect you have something similar in the UK ?
TimT.
>
>Reinder
>sami...@noord.bart.nl
>http://www.noord.bart.nl/~samizdat/rd.htm
[1] Made from pears.. I couldn't tell the difference.
[2] Famous brand of dutch chocolate [3].. might as well have labelled this
article *C* ( for chocolate, of course )
[3] Currently sitting in my fridge: a bar of Delicata extra bitter:
65% chocolate: anybody now of anything purer [4]
[4] and I don't mean Jennifer.
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TT> Amsterdam, 12:30 nice and sunny. We hijacked a couple of very nice
TT> seats outside Cafe Americain, and ordered coffee.
YUK!!!!! E x P e N s I v E !!! Snobbish and no fun!
TT>More coffee..
TT> yet more
TT> coffee.
TT> Yet more coffee,
The Caffeine must have poisoned your taste buds!
TT> The rain let up, and since it was a valid lunchtime, and we got
TT> bored of waiting for Bjorn, we decided to get some lunch.
TT> Navigating on automatic, we crossed the Leidseplein and moved
TT> towards the Burger King. I suggested we go for traditional dutch
Filthy kitchen there!!
TT> chinese indonesian food, so we turned left... Unfortunately, the
TT> nearest chinese restaurant was closed. Leo suggested pancakes
TT> instead. However, the recommended restaurant was quite a long way
TT> away, and my shortcut didn't really work.
TT> Dutch pancakes.. how can I describe them. Think wagon wheels, think
TT> bacon, pinapple, banananana and, simply because I like them that
TT> way, a fried egg on top. Sprinkle liberally with syrup (beet,
TT> butterscotch and for some reason, 'rinse appelstroop[5]'. Coffee
TT> and chocolate to follow.
All the fruit and eggs and that are just for the tourists! Dutch
pancakes are heavy, soaked in butter and covered with sugary substances
like that Rinse stuff.
TT> Time for a drink... definitely time for a drink... I vaguely
TT> remembered a pub (de Oorlam, or is it 'de Doelen' ? Not even the
TT> pub itself seems to know) where they serve a decent pint of
TT> Guinness, so we set of across town. I did manage to find the pub on
TT> the second try, which is something of ae record for me.
Try Durty Nellies in the Warmoesstraat next time.
Greetz.
DD.
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Leo Breebaart
ma...@monark.ftech.co.uk (Murky B) writes:
> > Apfcon 97 was discussed: it was decided
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> That's very good of you ;-)
>
> > that holding it in
> > Amsterdam [6] would be like herding cats, so we decided on
> > Lutjebroek [7] instead. We did consider holding the meet in
> > international waters [8], on a minicruise on one of the ferries.
>
> Surely these should be options to further examine by all interested
> parties (with the advice and counselling of the locals) rather than
> being decided at a mini afpmeet?
Murk, you're reading *way* too much into Tim's use of the word "decided".
It upsets me a bit to see that we are apparently now at the stage where
even innocent meet reports are interpreted as attempts to force minority
decisions upon the rest of afp.
> Amsterdam is great - what's in Lutjebroek?
Absolutely nothing. It's just a name of a small town that sounds funny,
even to the Dutch themselves. This should give you some idea about how
serious we were when we "decided" to hold megameet '97 there.
--
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Leo Breebaart
ti...@iaehv.nl (Tim T.) writes:
> Amsterdam, 12:30 nice and sunny. We hijacked a couple of very nice
> seats outside Cafe Americain, and ordered coffee.
>
> Amsterdam, 12:35 pissing down. Rob (Collier, the duty Bjorn) and Leo
> (the keeper of the APF) appeared.
At this point I was having serious doubts about whether this meeting was
going to be successful or not. It was raining so hard we couldn't even
hear ourselves talk.
> And finally Alan (Conell, non-smoker [4], token Irishman,
... and token Belgian, of course.
> Alex explained why he was in Amsterdam (company jolly) and reported
> on the events of Saturday night.. Sounded like quite a party.
Diplomatically worded, Tim :-)
> I suggested we go for traditional dutch chinese indonesian food, so we
> turned left... Unfortunately, the nearest chinese restaurant was
> closed.
You'd have thought a big city such as Amsterdam would have its own
Chinatown. But apparently it doesn't. So much for dim sum.
> The usual subjects (roundabouts, beer, books, portable phones, afp,
> barometers, history (particularly that of Suriname) etc. ) were
> broached,
... as well as the Eurovision song contest, taxes, the Efteling, and the
joys of being a grandfather. Happy birthday, Tim.
--
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Colette Reap
l...@cp.tn.tudelft.nl (Leo Breebaart) wrote:
>You'd have thought a big city such as Amsterdam would have its own
>Chinatown. But apparently it doesn't. So much for dim sum.
>
...butbutbut...how about all the Indonesian restaurants that Amsterdam
has instead?
The last time I was in Amsterdam (staying at the American Hotel as it
happens) I had a wonderful 24 dish 'rice table' (sorry, can't remember
the Dutch spelling) which I would describe as like dim sum but more of
it.
----
Colette
Keith Willoughby
In article <leo.84...@orion.cp.tn.tudelft.nl>, Leo Breebaart
<l...@cp.tn.tudelft.nl> writes
>... as well as the Eurovision song contest, taxes, the Efteling, and the
>joys of being a grandfather. Happy birthday, Tim.
Is that Die Efteling the Alton-Towers-like theme park? Been there.
Enjoyed.
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In article <4uqdc0$d...@dibbler.iaehv.nl>, ti...@iaehv.nl, Tim T. says...
[[nibbled away everything about apple and pear (?) syrups)]]
> TimT.
>[3] Currently sitting in my fridge: a bar of Delicata extra bitter:
> 65% chocolate: anybody now of anything purer [4]
I received, today,
Sainbury's Continental (70%)
Green & Black's Organic Dark Chocolate (70%)
Green & Black's Maya Gold (70%)
and Lindt Excellence (70%)
along with a few other goodies. I am in heaven. *grin*
--glinda, feeling very spoiled
Colm Buckley
> == Tim T. <ti...@iaehv.nl>
>[3] Currently sitting in my fridge: a bar of Delicata extra bitter:
> 65% chocolate: anybody now of anything purer [4]
Yep. Lindt Excellence, for example, is 70% cocoa solids; I always pick
up large amounts of it when I'm in the UK (it's very hard to find
here)... divine stuff.
Colm
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Tim T.
In article <4upj6l$c...@news.belgium.eu.net>,
alan.c...@ces-cdr.be (Alan Connell) writes:
>Sometime, somewhere in alt.fan.pratchett,
>ti...@iaehv.nl (Tim T.) penned the following :
>
>
then ;-)
>
>> And finally Alan (Conell, non-smoker [4], token Irishman, and essential
>> part of every dutch AFP meet so far) showed up,
>was quite wet and very hung-over. See comment on rain above.
self, though a bit quiet... ;-)
<snip>
>passed by Anne Franks house.
<snip>
>> question, that I can remember... And of course, it rained..
>I was told it was a very nice day here all day.
>
>> Time for a drink... definitely time for a drink... I vaguely
>> remembered a pub (de Oorlam, or is it 'de Doelen' ? Not even the
>> pub itself seems to know) where they serve a decent pint of
>> Guinness,
>Well, the black stuff wasn't too bad, but I had to change to a
>local brew after the first.
It was a bit off... improved later on. No patch on the stuff at
home, but that would have meant a *long* walk
>> so we set of across town. I did manage to find the pub on
>> the second try, which is something of ae record for me.
>I still think you were completly lost Tim, and you just found the
>pub by accident.
Look, I was in the right part of town.. You did see some
interesting sights.. The sun was almost shining during that
bit..
>> table.. nice story, Leo, and everybody once again agreed that Joan
>> looked simply amazing..
>And that the fact that the photo of Karen (aka The Vodka Vixen) is the
>most downloaded picture from L-Space at the moment. A very nice
>picture it is too.
Wayhey...
>> broached, and somebody was proposed to (by proxy.. Have you told
>> your sister yet, Alan ?).
>I asked her yesterday for you. She, umm, didn't say no, only kind
>of hummed and hawed because I showed her a picture of you being
>supported by a rubber chicken at the Con.
Ah, yes.. of course, the chicken (project manager) is included,
as is the hedgehog, who was on guard at the time.
>Yeah. I only got wet once. And that was only because I got lost
>trying to find Leidesplein because somebody suggested that we meet
>there. I have a nasty feeling that that sombody might have been me.
<grin>
>>[5] appelstroop: a syrup made from apples.. rinse, yeah, well, dutch
>> is sometimes a foreign language to me:
>Would that make it double dutch ?.
Hmmm.. the matter of my nationality is currently under
review... Any country like to claim me ?
>Big Al.
>--
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>I only work here. I do not speak for my employers.
>
>All Done Bye bye!
>
>
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Tim T.
In article <cdd_960...@eagle.xs4all.nl>,
nob...@eagle.xs4all.nl (David Dylan) writes:
>-=> Quoting Tim T. to All <=-
>
>
> TT> Amsterdam, 12:30 nice and sunny. We hijacked a couple of very nice
> TT> seats outside Cafe Americain, and ordered coffee.
>
> YUK!!!!! E x P e N s I v E !!! Snobbish and no fun!
place, but I'd be hard pressed to do so in the center of Amsterdam,
on a Sunday afternoon.
> TT>More coffee..
>
> TT> yet more
> TT> coffee.
>
> TT> Yet more coffee,
>
> The Caffeine must have poisoned your taste buds!
> TT> The rain let up, and since it was a valid lunchtime, and we got
> TT> bored of waiting for Bjorn, we decided to get some lunch.
> TT> Navigating on automatic, we crossed the Leidseplein and moved
> TT> towards the Burger King. I suggested we go for traditional dutch
>
> Filthy kitchen there!!
Never got as far as the door, let alone the kitchen.
> TT> chinese indonesian food, so we turned left... Unfortunately, the
> TT> nearest chinese restaurant was closed. Leo suggested pancakes
> TT> instead. However, the recommended restaurant was quite a long way
> TT> away, and my shortcut didn't really work.
>
> TT> Dutch pancakes.. how can I describe them. Think wagon wheels, think
> TT> bacon, pinapple, banananana and, simply because I like them that
> TT> way, a fried egg on top. Sprinkle liberally with syrup (beet,
> TT> butterscotch and for some reason, 'rinse appelstroop[5]'. Coffee
> TT> and chocolate to follow.
>
> All the fruit and eggs and that are just for the tourists! Dutch
> pancakes are heavy, soaked in butter and covered with sugary substances
> like that Rinse stuff.
Actually, the egg bit is a traditional family recipe.. (As a matter
of fact, so are the fruit pancakes...) been around for
generations..[1] And the pancakes were served with butter, for those
who couldn't do without.
> TT> Time for a drink... definitely time for a drink... I vaguely
> TT> remembered a pub (de Oorlam, or is it 'de Doelen' ? Not even the
> TT> pub itself seems to know) where they serve a decent pint of
> TT> Guinness, so we set of across town. I did manage to find the pub on
> TT> the second try, which is something of ae record for me.
>
>Try Durty Nellies in the Warmoesstraat next time.
Noted.. We never went to these pubs when I were a young lad about
town in the eighties. Too many tourists for one thing. (and being
asked questions about the computers at the local police station for
another...)
Since you seem to know Amsterdam so well, read afp, and judging by
your email address, live close to/in Amsterdam, Where were you ?
TimT.
[1] At least since the time of my great grandmother on my fathers
side, who admitedly was frisian.
> Greetz.
> DD.
>
> Please send E-mail to : nob...@xs4all.nl Thank you.
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In article <leo.84...@orion.cp.tn.tudelft.nl>,
l...@cp.tn.tudelft.nl (Leo Breebaart) writes:
>ti...@iaehv.nl (Tim T.) writes:
>
>> Amsterdam, 12:30 nice and sunny. We hijacked a couple of very nice
>> seats outside Cafe Americain, and ordered coffee.
>>
>> Amsterdam, 12:35 pissing down. Rob (Collier, the duty Bjorn) and Leo
>> (the keeper of the APF) appeared.
>
>going to be successful or not. It was raining so hard we couldn't even
>hear ourselves talk.
>
>
>> Alex explained why he was in Amsterdam (company jolly) and reported
>> on the events of Saturday night.. Sounded like quite a party.
>
:-)
>
>> I suggested we go for traditional dutch chinese indonesian food, so we
>> turned left... Unfortunately, the nearest chinese restaurant was
>> closed.
>
>Chinatown. But apparently it doesn't. So much for dim sum.
police, it was somewhere near the Damrak, with nice chinese signs
telling you where to eat, gamble and buy heroin. (or so I was
told.. don't know any chinese).
>> barometers, history (particularly that of Suriname) etc. ) were
>> broached,
>
>joys of being a grandfather. Happy birthday, Tim.
out ;-). And thank you..
TimT.
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Leo Breebaart
god...@lspace.org (Colette Reap) writes:
> The last time I was in Amsterdam (staying at the American Hotel as it
> happens)
Posh!
> I had a wonderful 24 dish 'rice table' (sorry, can't remember the Dutch
> spelling)
Rijsttafel.
> which I would describe as like dim sum but more of it.
Indeed. However, don't forget we were looking for *lunch*, not dinner. I
have a hearty appetite, but I'm not sure I could've handled a rijsttafel at
13:00 in the afternoon...
--
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Leo Breebaart
Keith Willoughby <ke...@cowtown.demon.co.uk> writes:
> >... as well as the Eurovision song contest, taxes, the Efteling, and the
> >joys of being a grandfather. Happy birthday, Tim.
>
> Is that Die Efteling the Alton-Towers-like theme park?
I have no idea what Alton Towers is, but I don't think there are that
many Eftelings around, so it'll probably be the same theme park, yes.
> Been there. Enjoyed.
Yep, that's why we were discussing if it would make sense to hold afpmeet
'97 in the vicinity of the Efteling. Our conclusion was that most of a.f.p.
would probably enjoy that. :-)
--
Leo Breebaart (l...@cp.tn.tudelft.nl)
Tim T.
>> That's very good of you ;-)
>>
>> > Amsterdam [6] would be like herding cats, so we decided on
>> > Lutjebroek [7] instead. We did consider holding the meet in
>> > international waters [8], on a minicruise on one of the ferries.
>>
>> parties (with the advice and counselling of the locals) rather than
>> being decided at a mini afpmeet?
>
>Murk, you're reading *way* too much into Tim's use of the word "decided".
>
>It upsets me a bit to see that we are apparently now at the stage where
>even innocent meet reports are interpreted as attempts to force minority
>decisions upon the rest of afp.
silly...and spout ideas. Still feel silly as a matter of fact: I've
been averaging three hours of sleep over the past few days. Sorry
if my use of any language is sometimes a bit off: in this context,
decided was intended to mean something like: it seemed like a good
idea at the time (to me, anyway).
I'll state my position on AFP-meets clearly [0] here (and please
note: this is my personal opinion; you can agree or disagree as much
as you like: it is not important, it is not anybody's policy):
The original idea on that fateful saturday (or was it sunday) night
in Manchester was: it would be nice to meet everyone again, some
time soon, somewhere else. Holland was proposed as a general
location for this meet. Once again: it seemed like a good idea at
the time, nothing was decided, no signatures in blood (or custard)
or anything.
In no way will I be responsible for anything like an *OFFICIAL* afp
meet. I'm more than willing to set up a meet [1] (iff I can get some
help) for those people who want to come to Holland: there seems to
be enough interest for that to be a workable proposition[2].
However, this is NOT IN NO WAY an *official* meet: about as
official as any party of more than two people getting together in a
pub and discussing beer, roundabouts and barometers. (which seems a
sensible definition of an afp meet.)
Sorry if anybody got the wrong impression... I'll be coming off duty
in about five hour's time: get some sleep, and attempt to become
semi coherent again.
TimT.
[0] Clear, me ? never... slightly less vague than usual, on
rereading.
[1] As in: find a place where it can be held, arrange catering, make
sure everybody knows how to get there.
[2] In the sense of: it seems likely that enough people would turn up,
to justify renting a place, try to arrange something with the
local transportation people, arranging a truckload of belgian
beer..
>> Amsterdam is great - what's in Lutjebroek?
>
>Absolutely nothing. It's just a name of a small town that sounds funny,
>even to the Dutch themselves. This should give you some idea about how
>serious we were when we "decided" to hold megameet '97 there.
You know, I've lived in this country for more years than I care to
remember: don't think I've ever been in Lutjebroek. Perhaps
that's what makes it unique. By the way.. just looked at a map:
it's somewhere north east of Amsterdam, between Hoorn and
Enkhuizen. There are similarly named towns like Lutjehuizen and
Lutjewad according to my atlas.
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In article <leo.84...@orion.cp.tn.tudelft.nl>
l...@cp.tn.tudelft.nl (Leo Breebaart) wrote:
> god...@lspace.org (Colette Reap) writes:
> > The last time I was in Amsterdam (staying at the American Hotel as
> > it happens)
> Posh!
I take it the 'American' is up-market?
> > I had a wonderful 24 dish 'rice table' (sorry, can't remember the
> > Dutch spelling)
> Rijsttafel.
> > which I would describe as like dim sum but more of it.
> Indeed. However, don't forget we were looking for *lunch*, not dinner.
That is lunch!
> I have a hearty appetite, but I'm not sure I could've handled a
> rijsttafel at 13:00 in the afternoon...
Do they have 13:00 in the morning in Holland then?
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> Ok.. I got elected to do the report, and I'm not very good at this
> sort of thing, so please bear with me.. I'll try to do it proper,
> with footnotes and everything..
Well, It looks ok to me anyway.
[...]
> Amsterdam, 12:30 nice and sunny. We hijacked a couple of very nice
^^^^^
> seats outside Cafe Americain, and ordered coffee.
>
> Amsterdam, 12:35 pissing down. Rob (Collier, the duty Bjorn) and Leo
^^^^^
> (the keeper of the APF) appeared. More coffee..
It's amazing how wet you can get running 100M from one side of the
Leidseplein to the other on an otherwise sunny day...
> Alex (the eternally harassed) appeared from somewhere.. yet more
> coffee.
And remained completely unfazed by my unscheduled appearence in
Amsterdam, merely asking If I was going to be turning up unanounced at
an American meet...
> And finally Alan (Conell, non-smoker [4], token Irishman, and essential
> part of every dutch AFP meet so far) showed up, minus
> sister... Yet more coffee, and still more rain.
Alan continued to Not Smoke with great regularity throughout the day.
[...]
> Dutch pancakes.. how can I describe them. Think wagon wheels, think
> bacon, pinapple, banananana and, simply because I like them that
> way, a fried egg on top. Sprinkle liberally with syrup (beet,
> butterscotch and for some reason, 'rinse appelstroop[5]'. Coffee
> and chocolate to follow.
I have never before eaten ham, cheese and pinapple pancakes, and this
place sold another 70 odd varieties of pancake.
> And no, we did not forget to harras Alex... He never answered Leo's
> question, that I can remember... And of course, it rained..
Did we mention that it rained on several occasions throughout the day
- forcing us to remain in sundry hostelries, consuming food and drink
- entirely against our will you understand
> Time for a drink... definitely time for a drink... I vaguely
> remembered a pub (de Oorlam, or is it 'de Doelen' ? Not even the
> pub itself seems to know) where they serve a decent pint of
> Guinness, so we set of across town. I did manage to find the pub on
> the second try, which is something of ae record for me.
We were never lost you understand, we knew exctly where *we* were, it
was merely the location of everything else that eluded us...
> Leo explained why he was sliding under the
> table..
Something to do with beeing due in program in 5 minutes and that being
the only way out IIRC.
> nice story, Leo, and everybody once again agreed that Joan
> looked simply amazing..
[...]
> Apfcon 97 was discussed: it was decided that holding it in
> Amsterdam [6] would be like herding cats, so we decided on
> Lutjebroek [7] instead. We did consider holding the meet in
> international waters [8], on a minicruise on one of the ferries.
>
> And it rained... Good thing we were inside most of the time.
Did we mention the rain?
> The meeting ended around half past seven[9], in the rain, eating
> hotdogs outside the Central station.
Yes, I think we mentioned the rain, after all we wouldn't want them to
think we were forced to remain in the pub for 4 hours in the middle of
the day because we wanted to drink and discuss irrelevancies would
we....
> All in all, a wonderful time was had by all, and we're looking
> forward to the next meet (Who's coming over next, people ?)
Depends on timing and financies, but I'd like to go to another Dutch
meet.
> TimT (Keeper of the rubber chicken [10])
> [10] Which had to be excused, since I forgot to bring it.. Sorry.
Sacrilege! *grin*
- Rob.
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>Yep, that's why we were discussing if it would make sense to hold afpmeet
>'97 in the vicinity of the Efteling. Our conclusion was that most of a.f.p.
>would probably enjoy that. :-)
>
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Tony Haines
ti...@iaehv.nl (Tim T.) wrote:
> My ex-wife once brought a tin of Rinse Perenstroop [1] home from
> limburg: different brand from the Appelstroop.. which by the way
> traditionally has a nice picture of a boy opening a tin of appelstroop
> which incidentally has a nice picture of a boy... you get the idea... In
> holland, this is referred to as the Droste [2] effect: I expect you have
> something similar in the UK ?
Some in Britain might call it 'Beyond the last Visible Dog'.
Uh huh... whoops.
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Colm Buckley (co...@lspace.org) wrote:
: >[3] Currently sitting in my fridge: a bar of Delicata extra bitter:
: > 65% chocolate: anybody now of anything purer [4]
: Yep. Lindt Excellence, for example, is 70% cocoa solids; I always pick
: up large amounts of it when I'm in the UK (it's very hard to find
: here)... divine stuff.
Hm. It tastes vaguely like chocolate covered rasins, to me. I like those
too, but when I'm eating dark chocolate, that's a rather distracting
thing to be tasting. I also taste fruit in the Maya Gold stuff, and it's
even more distracting there. (I have *no* idea why I'm tasting that, by
the way.) I much prefer the green&black. :)
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In article <leo.84...@orion.cp.tn.tudelft.nl>, Leo Breebaart
<l...@cp.tn.tudelft.nl> writes
>Keith Willoughby <ke...@cowtown.demon.co.uk> writes:
>
>> >joys of being a grandfather. Happy birthday, Tim.
>>
>> Is that Die Efteling the Alton-Towers-like theme park?
>
>I have no idea what Alton Towers is, but I don't think there are that
>many Eftelings around, so it'll probably be the same theme park, yes.
Alton Towers==Theme Park. Rides. Loop-de-loops. Vomit.
>
>> Been there. Enjoyed.
>
>Yep, that's why we were discussing if it would make sense to hold afpmeet
>'97 in the vicinity of the Efteling. Our conclusion was that most of a.f.p.
>would probably enjoy that. :-)
>
I think you are quite correct in that assessment. If I have the spare
moolah, then count me in to the Dutch-mega-meet-near-die-Efteling.[1]
I will probably be in Dutchland in June as a works outing - if it's
then, then doubly so.
[1] Much-much-too-much-dashes-inbetween-words
Joann L Dominik
Keith Willoughby (ke...@cowtown.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: <l...@cp.tn.tudelft.nl> writes
: >Keith Willoughby <ke...@cowtown.demon.co.uk> writes:
: >>
: >> Is that Die Efteling the Alton-Towers-like theme park?
: >I have no idea what Alton Towers is, but I don't think there are that
: >many Eftelings around, so it'll probably be the same theme park, yes.
: Alton Towers==Theme Park. Rides. Loop-de-loops. Vomit.
Sissie. Girlie. There's one ride there that was vaguely unpleasant. The
others are all quite nice. They aren't at all *scary*, anyway. >:)
: >> Been there. Enjoyed.
: >
: >Yep, that's why we were discussing if it would make sense to hold afpmeet
: >'97 in the vicinity of the Efteling. Our conclusion was that most of a.f.p.
: >would probably enjoy that. :-)
: >
: I think you are quite correct in that assessment. If I have the spare
: moolah, then count me in to the Dutch-mega-meet-near-die-Efteling.[1]
: I will probably be in Dutchland in June as a works outing - if it's
: then, then doubly so.
Well.... Ok. We can combine the idea of AFP at Alton Tower, shifted to
die Efteling, and the megameet. And with any luck, I'll be in England on
business and can go. Gods I hope so.
Elisabeth Fosbrooke
In article <4v3g6o$2...@orion.cloudnet.com>, jldo...@cloudnet.com (Joann L Dominik) writes:
|> ... I also taste fruit in the Maya Gold stuff, and it's
|> the way.) I much prefer the green&black. :)
|>
Probably because it has fruit in it. Orange, to be precise.
I love them both.
El(l)i
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