Ok progressive democrats time to fight for the future of the party/The clueless dlc are blaming Gore's loss on the progressives..
Jenn
After Gore's Loss
DLC charges that the populist themes of Gore's campaign were a major factor
in his loss
by Thomas B. Edsall
The war between the populist and centrist wings of the Democratic Party
broke out into the open yesterday as they struggled to set the direction of
the party.
The opening guns were fired by officials of the Democratic Leadership
Council--a bastion of loyalists to Vice President Gore's running mate,
Connecticut Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman, a centrist and possible candidate
himself for the ............
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines/121600-02.htm
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Jenn
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Justice Antonin Scalia said (I'll paraphrase here), well, we believe Bush
won
and if we allow those votes from Florida to be counted and Gore ends up
ahead, well, that would cause irreparable harm to a Bush administration.
Michael Moore
Zepp, Weasel Sea Shells by the Sea Shore
<moon...@my-deja.copywrite2000> wrote:
>Fissures Widening Among Democrats
>After Gore's Loss
>DLC charges that the populist themes of Gore's campaign were a major factor
>in his loss
>
>by Thomas B. Edsall
>
>The war between the populist and centrist wings of the Democratic Party
>broke out into the open yesterday as they struggled to set the direction of
>the party.
>
>The opening guns were fired by officials of the Democratic Leadership
>Council--a bastion of loyalists to Vice President Gore's running mate,
>Connecticut Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman, a centrist and possible candidate
>himself for the ............
>
>http://www.commondreams.org/headlines/121600-02.htm
They need to learn that pretending to be Republican lite doesn't work.
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The greens seems to be the only progressive party around.
"Jenn" <moon...@my-deja.copywrite2000> wrote in message
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Ezekiel J. Krahlin
<parti...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>You can vote Republican, Republican II, or GREEN.
>The greens seems to be the only progressive party around.
The Amerikan Green Party stinks on ice. They are *not progressive at
all, with absolutely no existing track record on civil rights matters.
You Nader voters will soon regret how you wrecked this election, by
giving it to Bush, just because you were all too selfish to graciously
drop out, and ensure a Gore victory. You'd rather see Amerika go down
the drain, in your greedy vendetta for Nader losing. Ralph Nader is a
real loser, in more ways than one. He is now deservedly reviled by
true progressives everywhere.
There are *no progressive parties left in this country. The Greens are
pseudo-liberals who have no concern whatsover, for the rights of gays
and most other minorities. A consumer advocate--no matter how
grand--does not a president make.
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Wm James
Krahlin) wrote:
>On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 23:39:05 GMT, "Partingshot"
><parti...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>You can vote Republican, Republican II, or GREEN.
>>The greens seems to be the only progressive party around.
>
>The Amerikan Green Party stinks on ice. They are *not progressive at
>all, with absolutely no existing track record on civil rights matters.
>You Nader voters will soon regret how you wrecked this election, by
>giving it to Bush, just because you were all too selfish to graciously
>drop out, and ensure a Gore victory. You'd rather see Amerika go down
>the drain, in your greedy vendetta for Nader losing. Ralph Nader is a
>real loser, in more ways than one. He is now deservedly reviled by
>true progressives everywhere.
>
>There are *no progressive parties left in this country. The Greens are
>pseudo-liberals who have no concern whatsover, for the rights of gays
>and most other minorities. A consumer advocate--no matter how
>grand--does not a president make.
Please satisfy my curiosity. How do you define "progressive"?
William R. James
Zepp, Weasel Sea Shells by the Sea Shore
Krahlin) wrote:
>On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 23:39:05 GMT, "Partingshot"
><parti...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>You can vote Republican, Republican II, or GREEN.
>>The greens seems to be the only progressive party around.
>
>The Amerikan Green Party stinks on ice. They are *not progressive at
>all, with absolutely no existing track record on civil rights matters.
>You Nader voters will soon regret how you wrecked this election, by
>giving it to Bush, just because you were all too selfish to graciously
>drop out, and ensure a Gore victory. You'd rather see Amerika go down
>the drain, in your greedy vendetta for Nader losing. Ralph Nader is a
>real loser, in more ways than one. He is now deservedly reviled by
>true progressives everywhere.
>
>There are *no progressive parties left in this country. The Greens are
>pseudo-liberals who have no concern whatsover, for the rights of gays
>and most other minorities. A consumer advocate--no matter how
>grand--does not a president make.
Oh, gosh: another dumb-as-mud right winger, here to tell us what
liberalism is all about.
What are the odds? Wow.
Tell you what, Babbles: why don't you go to the Greens' website and
read before making an even bigger fool of yourself?
>
>
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Wm James
Sea Shore" <ze...@snowcrest.net> wrote:
>>
>>There are *no progressive parties left in this country. The Greens are
>>pseudo-liberals who have no concern whatsover, for the rights of gays
>>and most other minorities. A consumer advocate--no matter how
>>grand--does not a president make.
>
>Oh, gosh: another dumb-as-mud right winger, here to tell us what
>liberalism is all about.
Did you just call Zeke a right winger???
William R. James
Ezekiel J. Krahlin
Sea Shore" <ze...@snowcrest.net> wrote:
>Oh, gosh: another dumb-as-mud right winger, here to tell us what
>liberalism is all about.
Nope. I've been essentially a democrat all my life.
>What are the odds? Wow.
You're the dipshit.
>Tell you what, Babbles: why don't you go to the Greens' website and
>read before making an even bigger fool of yourself?
I already have done my homework, quite some time ago. Just because
Nader says he stands for progressive issues--such as gay marriage and
women's abortion rights--is not at all the same as having a proven
track record. He's just saying that in order to gain votes. Previous
to considering a run for president, he wrote off gay and women's
rights as mere "gonadal politics". Nader has *no history of standing
up for the civil rights of any people. His only glory is as a consumer
advocate.
Just how dumb do you think people are? The Green party across the pond
is to be admired, but here in Amerikan, it's a manipulative, elitist
horse of a different color.
Kevin
>Nader says he stands for progressive issues--such as gay marriage and
>women's abortion rights--is not at all the same as having a proven
>track record. He's just saying that in order to gain votes. Previous
>to considering a run for president, he wrote off gay and women's
>rights as mere "gonadal politics". Nader has *no history of standing
>up for the civil rights of any people. His only glory is as a consumer
>advocate.
You are, in light of the choices, too critical of Nader. He does not have a
history of working for certain progressive causes, such as gay marriage, but
who expects him to? How does any private citizen work on every progressive
cause?
In addition, although these issues are important to you and many others, gay
marriage (and even abortion) are not issues that everyone bases votes on. By
expecting to have candidates who have strong held beliefs on every issue, we
end up with Bush's and Gore's who talk a lot with no meaning.
And Nader may not have worked for any causes that would be called 'civil
rights' but much of his consumer protection work is very closely tied to
icivl rights, race and class issues. It sounds like you want more talk out
of Nader, just for the sake of hearing words you like to hear.
The above description of Nader is far kinder than any I can think of for
Gore. Gore talks a lot about being pro-labor and pro-environment, and has a
long record...that show he will do the opposite of everything he says.
I'd rather have no record at all, than Gores.
On these notes, Bush is actually better. He isn't pro-labor, but everybody
knows that. Gore isn't pro-labor either, but he pretends enough to make some
people believe him.
At least now, we know who the bad guy is, and liberals wont stand silently
by while their man does everything he can to dismantle porgressive reform.
Dana
news:3a3d8cde...@news.cis.dfn.de...
> On Sun, 17 Dec 2000 08:02:30 -0800, "Zepp, Weasel Sea Shells by the
> Sea Shore" <ze...@snowcrest.net> wrote:
>
> >Oh, gosh: another dumb-as-mud right winger, here to tell us what
> >liberalism is all about.
>
> Nope. I've been essentially a democrat all my life.
>
> >What are the odds? Wow.
>
> You're the dipshit.
>
> >Tell you what, Babbles: why don't you go to the Greens' website and
> >read before making an even bigger fool of yourself?
>
> I already have done my homework, quite some time ago. Just because
> Nader says he stands for progressive issues--such as gay marriage and
> women's abortion rights--is not at all the same as having a proven
> track record. He's just saying that in order to gain votes. Previous
> to considering a run for president, he wrote off gay and women's
> rights as mere "gonadal politics". Nader has *no history of standing
> up for the civil rights of any people. His only glory is as a consumer
> advocate.
>
> Just how dumb do you think people are? The Green party across the pond
> is to be admired, but here in Amerikan, it's a manipulative, elitist
> horse of a different color.
And just how many of those elitists are plain old democrats.
arp...@my-deja.com
post. Now, when I see you call someone who posts something about gay
rights and a "Pennsylvania Dutch Gay Jesus" a right winger, I'm certain
that your clueless
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