Neo-Nazi Revisionism: A Second Look
Ezekiel J. Krahlin
Note: If you haven't yet read parts 1 and 2, you might familiarize
yourself with them, at:
http://netjunk.com/users/gaybible/write/neochrist.htm
Or just use this quick capsule of my philosophy of "NeoChristianity":
God (or Goddess, or Deity) does not allow anyone to suffer horrible
atrocities such as The Holocaust and the Vietnam War. Before anyone
could experience such a fate, his or her soul is shifted into the
heavenly dimension, and the bodies are left to act out their scenario
of horror, animated by angelic actors. This way, we may learn about
compassion, believing such horrors to actually exist; while at the
same time, no person actually does suffer to such an extreme. If such
a person is destined to be a survivor of a gruesome experience--such
as from a Nazi concentration camp--his soul is finally returned to his
original body, after the worst agonies are over, and have been
completely healed. Then, in collaboration with the angels, he speaks
to the world of his abyssmal suffering at the hands of these evil
people. He or she has become, in essence, a Bodhisattva: one who has
earned the right to enter heaven, but instead decides to return to
earth in order to liberate more people. This is an act of compassion,
a sacrifice that only glorifies himself and God, and the human spirit.
He has an unbreakable pact with the angels, to never discuss the real
truth: of his visit to Heaven, and return to act out an incredible
plot for the sake of humanity.
NEO-NAZI REVISIONISM: A SECOND LOOK
(c) 2000 by Ezekiel J. Krahlin
Applying my new quasi-pagan philosophy of "NeoChristianity" to The
Holocaust, I have to conclude that the neo-Nazis are correct in
claiming that it never actually occurred. Granted, I'm approaching
this from a different direction than Nazis, but the outcome is the
same: there was no real holocaust. As I said earlier, God would never
let any of his children suffer such horrors of war; that he'd first
remove the souls from any bodies about to undergo great torment. And
surely, this Holocaust qualifies as an experience too horrible for any
human to deserve, or endure. (This also applies to the Vietnam War,
which I will touch upon a little later.)
Actually, it was a memorable encounter with a skinhead that led me to
this conclusion about The Holocaust; which then inspired me to develop
this ground-breaking NeoChristian philosophy. Several weeks ago (late
September 2000) after the sun had set, I was reading from my Faggot
Bible at Harvey Milk Plaza; when a very husky, young and blonde-haired
man came up to me and put his strong arm around my neck, while
listening to me read the poem "Welcome to Athenia". He then said
(still leaning against me, arm draped over my shoulders) with a thick
German accent: "I like what you are saying. You know, I am a skinhead,
a neo-Nazi, and we usually bash queers like you. But you are
different, you speak of important things. Read me another poem,
please."
So I then read one dedicated to my Nam Vet lover, Randolph; the one
entitled "Bring My Soldier Home to Me". My Nazi friend liked that one
a whole lot, and offered to protect me should anyone give me a hard
time in public. "You're no faggot," he said, "you're different. What
do you like to be called? Gay?" So I said, "Actually, I like the word
'Thracian', because it's a much more noble and warrior-type word for a
gay man." And he liked that, too.
So I read another poem to him, and while reciting, a gay man walked by
and remarked under his breath: "Screw you". My new companion jumped to
alert, and said, "See! That's a faggot, not a gay...not Thracian. Want
me to rough him up?" I said, "No, that's not necessary. Later on, when
I get really infamous, I'm sure your support will be greatly needed."
(I loved the idea of my own bodyguard while reading my gay screeds in
public. But for now, my only protection is a canister of pepper
spray.)
He spoke also, of how the neo-Nazis are misunderstood in some very
important ways; that they are fighting to preserve the German culture,
they are not all bad. I respectfully listened to him, and offered no
argument in my attempt to hear his side of the story. I don't remember
all the particulars he spoke, due to his difficult accent and broken
English; but before we parted, he asked me to write my phone number on
his arm, so he could call me tomorrow. After scrawling my number just
above his wrist, and saying our goodbyes: it struck me how similar the
numbers looked (due to where they were placed) to those that were
embedded on the arms of concentration camp survivors.
The guy never phoned me, but the next evening I thought further on our
encounter, when a vision came to me, through whom spoke the Norse god
Odin. He show me wondrous images of the northern climes: the beautiful
lands of snow and ice, kingdom of the Vikings. "We are a very strong
people," boasted Odin "We will protect you, we will vindicate you."
Then I saw a picture of the Greek gods and goddesses being decimated
in a horrible war in the skies...until the Norse gods came to their
rescue. And since then, the Greek and Viking gods have been great
comrades to each other. Now, I--as representative of the Elf Clan/Gay
Community--am appealing to these Nordic deities to help us win our
rights, our freedom. Odin said, "Do not fear us, we hear you, and we
love you. You shall be victorious."
Then I understood certain other aspects about neo-Nazism. For one, I
have the philosophy that there is no death or unspeakable suffering.
So now, knowing or believing what I do, how could I ever honestly tell
a neo-Nazi that he is 100% wrong? Based on my philosophy, I have to
admit that they are right on at least one vital issue: the Holocaust
never really happened, in the way most people think it did.
So how do I explain the Jews, in their role of scapegoat? Well, they
were willing scapegoats to be blamed for not sharing their wealth with
the rest of Germany, in order to bail them out of economic
devastation. In other words, the Jews knew their role ahead of time,
and acted out of great compassion, this sacrifice of being the reviled
scapegoat...in order to result in the maturing of the German culture,
that would finally give the world a more enlightened Europe that will
pave the way towards world democracy and global peace. This is what
WWII accomplished, and thus, by direct association, credit must also
go to Hitler and the Nazi movement. I therefore conclude that Jews and
Nazis collaborated in order to fulfill this dramatic scenario...or at
least, certain ones of importance and influence.
So I think some neo-Nazis revere Hitler as some Satanists honor Satan:
that in his willfully playing the role of evil, many of us were
provided the opportunity to become heroes, by challenging this demon.
Not that you should actually do anything that Satan (or Hitler) says,
but that you should respect his role in the scheme of things. Without
evil in this world, there would be no chance for us to be tested, and
offered many chances to become a true hero. Now, by God's mimicking of
great atrocities, he averts such actual, horrid suffering; while at
the same time makes us believe it really occurs to such an extreme, in
order that we may learn the lessons of compassion and courage.
As a result of the lessons of WWII--this challenge thrown in our faces
by Hitler's Nazis--we now have a vibrant European culture evolving the
most progressive forms of democracies the world has ever seen. So I
believe that I have found a handle on respecting at least one
important aspect of our contemporary neo-Nazis. And if the German
people at large took up this sense of respect, it is more likely that
the neo-Nazis will listen better to the points of view coming from the
other side, and thereby defuse what could become a dangerous
precedent, and repetition of Nazi terror.
And one more aspect of the neo-Nazi movement that I think has
justification: foreigners coming into other countries, and not
respecting the culture they're now living in, and remaining isolated
from one generation to the next; never assimilating. A good example of
this is the Chinese: they have a huge population and land mass far
exceeding any other culture...a huge chunk of earth's real estate. Yet
when they come into other countries--many occupying a much smaller
portion of earth's land mass--they tend to create larger and larger
Chinatowns, thus threatening to water down or even wipe out the native
culture. This does rightfully upset people, and could give rise to
racist discrimination and violence...if the Chinese don't learn to
assimilate into, and acquire more of, their adopted culture. After
all, if they really want to remain so exclusively "Chinese", they
already have all of
China to return to. How much more land do they want?
And I believe this resentment of outsiders threatening to eradicate
the native culture, is another understandable aspect of the neo-Nazi
movement.
Before departing, Odin then presented to me a vision of the Next Ice
Age, to start some time in March 2001...triggered by global warming. I
saw wondrous cities and parks all built of ice and snow, as the
majority of the human race adapted to the Arctic climate taking over
most of this planet for the next 50,000 or so years. And who better
than the northern gods to protect us, and teach us how to live in
harmony and great joy, among the icy realms of Asguard? (To read of an
earlier vision I had of the Norse Gods, see my tale, "Visit To
Valhalla".)
So the Norse gods--at least in metaphor--rule over all gods of all
other cultures...they are the ultimate protectors of this planet.
Preserving their mythology is therefore paramount; and by extension so
is preserving the German culture. After all, were it not for the
flooding of Germanic peoples across all of what we now call "Europe",
in the early Middle Ages, we'd never have this wonderful European
culture that grew of it. We owe much to the Germans, and thus we owe
some consideration to trying to understand better, this neo-Nazi
phenomenon.
Today, I just looked up "Odin" in my electronic encylopedia, to learn
this:
"Odin (Old Norse Odhinn, Anglo-Saxon Woden, Old High German Wódan,
Woutan), in Norse mythology, king of the gods. His two black ravens,
Huginn (“Thought”) and Muninn (“Memory”), flew forth daily to gather
tidings of events all over the world. As god of war, Odin held court
in Valhalla, where all brave warriors went after death in battle. His
greatest treasures were his eight-footed steed, Sleipner, his spear,
Gunger, and his ring, Draupner. Odin was also the god of wisdom,
poetry, and magic, and he sacrificed an eye for the privilege of
drinking from Mimir, the fountain of wisdom."
The part about his sacrificing an eye struck me like Thor's bolt of
lightning: I have just recently suffered a temporary partial blindness
of my left eye, due to an inflamed retina. Now recovering fully, I
take this experience as a physical manifestation of the spritual
metaphor for my own new-found wisdom, especially that gained from
Odin's incredible visitation.
SIDE NOTE: THE VIETNAM WAR
This truth of atrocities not really occurring, but actually an
incredible "scam" (so to speak) to teach us lessons without doing ugly
damage to any innocent souls, can and should be applied, of course, to
all wars in our long history. This includes the Vietnam War...one
veteran of which I greatly love, who is Randolph Louis Taylor. Now,
here's a man who suffered (and may still suffer) terribly from knowing
the horrible crimes in which he participated. Granted, many veterans
of war are capable of forgiving themselves for such atrocities,
usually after many years' period of healing. However, there are some
people who, like Randolph, just could never forgive themselves, unless
they really were shown (somehow) that they never actually did commit
such crimes in the first place...that it was all a dupe for their own
spiritual growth!
I therefore now realize (thanks to another angelic vision), that my
philosophy of NeoChristianity is a liberating force to our surviving
Nam Vets still suffering the ordeals of war...and likewise to all our
veterans of war and other times of great horror. But these wonderful,
heroic, and long-suffering veterans cannot be tricked into believing
this new revelation...they must somehow be given actual,
unquestionable proof that they never commited great sins. How this
will be proven is beyond me at this time, but my angels tell me all
mysteries shall soon be unravelled in this matter, for all the world
to witness. I am joyful for Randolph's sake, and for the sake of all
our fine veterans. Semper fidelis!
A FINAL THOUGHT
Applying my NeoChristian philosophy of a truly-benevolent God, to
other traumatic eras of human history, will likely result in profound
insights never before considered: a new twist as it were, on old
events. So, like taking a second look at neo-Nazi revisionism, we must
now take a second look on all important events in history by applying
my NeoChristian theory, to see what surprising insights await us on
our new adventures into the realm of mind and spirit, that have been
there all along, just waiting for the time we are ready to explore.
You might call this, perhaps, a new field of science: "Psychic
Archaeology".
---finis
---
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Johnofthevine
were all given lsd.O'holy grail please see
what is and what is not.
If a people are tripping what is this !
I just want to say look into it.Books are out
there about it.
Anyway I am here in my cave , and painting
on the walls.The day will come when these will
fall.Logos alone standing proud and tall.
From the highest heaven do I come for you and all.Through the
deepest hell did I stumble
did I fall.The world is over the world is small.
Join me in a party for one and all.Get the keg
get the drugs well get so fucked up we will have to crawl.FREEDOM
FREEDOM FREEDOM
living in crime thejohnofthevine
http://community.webtv.net/om_chakra/SWASTIKACHAKRA
Johnofthevine
>Obviously you have never visited the remains
>of a Nazi deathcamp yourself.
Those people where not my blood asshole
and they got what they had coming ! !
And the survivors got lsd it is a fact .
And my people get tranquilize if we do not
go along with the shoah party ! !
Well fuck that you sick bastard ! ! !
LIGHT LIFE LOVE LIBERTY FUCK SHOAH
fighting in kind thejohnofthevine
Stomper
"Ezekiel J. Krahlin" <ezek...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> NEOCHRISTIANITY (PART 3 OF 3)
>
> Note: If you haven't yet read parts 1 and 2, you might familiarize
philosophy follows>
> LAVENDER VELVET REVOLUTION!
> Disgusted with our choices for next President?
> Write me in: Ezekiel J. Krahlin, gay activist,
> homeless and civil rights advocate. To make
> an informed decision about me, peruse my website:
> http://surf.to/gaybible
Why do these stupid, saggy-assed faggots post here? It's difficult enough
sifting through the mere crumbs of intelligence for some tiny nugget of
supernatural wisdom
(yeah, I know, waste of time). It's bad enough putting up with pathetic
Christian whores like Miss Busted Hymen. What are you supposed satanists
DOING, anyway, encouraging this crap? Aren't there any hackers out there can
TAKE OUT these lowlifes? Or do I have to do this MYSELF??
--
Aryan Resistance Militia
Theo Paijmans
a pastiche, it is good in the obliqueness of its shameless bad taste. If
meant as a serious rationale for the Holocaust, this sort of reasoning
clearly shows what cuts in medical care and menatl health have
accomplished. Ah, the wonders of the internet... it is like a deep sea and
not always it yields priceless gems and miracles, sometimes also a shape
of dead snot and gelly washes ashore...
Obviously you have never visited the remains of a Nazi deathcamp yourself.
Go on then, dream about Odin.
Best,
Theo
Ezekiel J. Krahlin
wrote:
>Obviously you have never visited the remains of a Nazi deathcamp yourself.
I refuse to believe in a Creator who'd allow such evil to really
occur. This includes babies being victims of war. Thus, in so
refusing, I have developed a philosophy that effectively gives us back
a loving God, without distorting events or denigrating the noble
history of the Jews or any other people.
Visiting a Nazi death camp will not change my mind, I am sure. As a
gay person, I have experienced firsthand, the evils of homophobia,
including its manifestation of AIDS: the failure of our heterocentric
society to intervene with any semblance of compassion.
By my philosophy, no matter how "real" the situation seems to you, or
how "real" the evidence seems...nonetheless, the actual souls that
inhabited these victimized bodies were switched to the heavenly
dimension prior to any possibility of ungodly suffering.
>Go on then, dream about Odin.
Your quick rejection of my philosophy only proves you are totally
addicted to believing in abject horror as a reality...even though I
have found a way around it.
So go on then, dream about horror.
Wulfruna
by saying 'God' doesn't let people experience the suffering? Sorry, but
this world is as real as any other world: pain hurts, people suffer.
These ideas simply excuse the perpetuation of terror, horror and brutality.
Worse, it sanitises and diminishes it to a mildly inconvenient hiccup for
the sufferer.
You clearly think of yourself as some kind of prophet - I think you need to
get some medical help.
--
Wulfruna
Ezekiel J. Krahlin <ezek...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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Wulfruna
Brilliant. Beautifully and skillfully said.
--
Wulfruna
Theo Paijmans <th.pa...@wxs.nl> wrote in message
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Paul Williams
wrote:
>
>"Ezekiel J. Krahlin" <ezek...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
>news:39e94991...@news.cis.dfn.de...
>> NEOCHRISTIANITY (PART 3 OF 3)
>>
>> Note: If you haven't yet read parts 1 and 2, you might familiarize
>> yourself with them, at: > --- <bullshit faggot personal perversion
>philosophy follows>
>> LAVENDER VELVET REVOLUTION!
>> Disgusted with our choices for next President?
>> Write me in: Ezekiel J. Krahlin, gay activist,
>> homeless and civil rights advocate. To make
>> an informed decision about me, peruse my website:
>> http://surf.to/gaybible
>
>Why do these stupid, saggy-assed faggots post here? It's difficult enough
>sifting through the mere crumbs of intelligence for some tiny nugget of
>supernatural wisdom
>(yeah, I know, waste of time). It's bad enough putting up with pathetic
>Christian whores like Miss Busted Hymen. What are you supposed satanists
>DOING, anyway, encouraging this crap? Aren't there any hackers out there can
>TAKE OUT these lowlifes? Or do I have to do this MYSELF??
I've never met a stupid, saggy-asses faggot.
I've eaten lots or Brains Faggots, and they're delicious, especially
with mashed potato and mushy peas - YUM!
I can't picture a faggy ass though. I've never seen a donkey smoking.
Paul (aka Riff)
Live now
Paul Williams
<wulf...@rightstuff.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>This is pathetic, whimsical, delusional crap. You want to neutralise horror
>by saying 'God' doesn't let people experience the suffering? Sorry, but
>this world is as real as any other world: pain hurts, people suffer.
>
>These ideas simply excuse the perpetuation of terror, horror and brutality.
>Worse, it sanitises and diminishes it to a mildly inconvenient hiccup for
>the sufferer.
>
>You clearly think of yourself as some kind of prophet - I think you need to
>get some medical help.
Just shows the real sad and sorry destructive thing that is organised
religion; christianity being one of th worst examples both throughout
history and in the modern world.
There are plenty of good people who are also christian; but religion
like this is poison.
-PV-
om_c...@webtv.net (Johnofthevine) wrote:
>
> >Obviously you have never visited the remains
> >of a Nazi deathcamp yourself.
>
> and they got what they had coming ! !
> And the survivors got lsd it is a fact .
> And my people get tranquilize if we do not
> go along with the shoah party ! !
> Well fuck that you sick bastard ! ! !
> LIGHT LIFE LOVE LIBERTY FUCK SHOAH
> fighting in kind thejohnofthevine
The main purposes the Holo-hoax serves are engendering white guilt and
fattening the pockets of "kosher people."
http://www.rthawk.com/carcassofgod
--
If ever there could be a noble one, one noble as a frontline soldier,
it is she whose lust, and lust alone, sets us free.
Daedra
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Paul Williams wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 22:12:35 -0700, "Stomper" <iron_...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Ezekiel J. Krahlin" <ezek...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> >news:39e94991...@news.cis.dfn.de...
> >> NEOCHRISTIANITY (PART 3 OF 3)
> >>
> >> Note: If you haven't yet read parts 1 and 2, you might familiarize
> >> yourself with them, at: > --- <bullshit faggot personal perversion
> >philosophy follows>
> >> LAVENDER VELVET REVOLUTION!
> >> Disgusted with our choices for next President?
> >> Write me in: Ezekiel J. Krahlin, gay activist,
> >> homeless and civil rights advocate. To make
> >> an informed decision about me, peruse my website:
> >> http://surf.to/gaybible
> >
> >Why do these stupid, saggy-assed faggots post here? It's difficult enough
> >sifting through the mere crumbs of intelligence for some tiny nugget of
> >supernatural wisdom
> >(yeah, I know, waste of time). It's bad enough putting up with pathetic
> >Christian whores like Miss Busted Hymen. What are you supposed satanists
> >DOING, anyway, encouraging this crap? Aren't there any hackers out there can
> >TAKE OUT these lowlifes? Or do I have to do this MYSELF??
>
> I've never met a stupid, saggy-asses faggot.
>
> I've eaten lots or Brains Faggots, and they're delicious, especially
> with mashed potato and mushy peas - YUM!
>
> I can't picture a faggy ass though. I've never seen a donkey smoking.
>
Wulfruna
Paul Williams <ag...@NOSPAMholism.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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horror
> >by saying 'God' doesn't let people experience the suffering? Sorry, but
> >this world is as real as any other world: pain hurts, people suffer.
> >
> >These ideas simply excuse the perpetuation of terror, horror and
brutality.
> >Worse, it sanitises and diminishes it to a mildly inconvenient hiccup for
> >the sufferer.
> >
> >You clearly think of yourself as some kind of prophet - I think you need
to
> >get some medical help.
>
>
> religion; christianity being one of th worst examples both throughout
> history and in the modern world.
>
> There are plenty of good people who are also christian; but religion
> like this is poison.
'Ay-men' to that, brother!
--
Wulfruna
rick
>
> What are you supposed satanists
> DOING, anyway, encouraging this crap? Aren't there any hackers out there can
> TAKE OUT these lowlifes? Or do I have to do this MYSELF??
>
> Aryan Resistance Militia <--- Translation - Moron.
Look at the headers Moron.
This thread is crossposted to many groups.
Don't assume everyone discussing this is a Satanist.
BTW - get a life.
Paul Williams
>In article <8sgn58$12gc$1...@newssvr05-en0.news.prodigy.com>, "Stomper"
><iron_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>!Aren't there any hackers out there can TAKE OUT these lowlifes?
>
>So much for being the Master race...
>
>!Or do I have to do this MYSELF??
>
>all in a spleen and nothing of a man...
>!
>!--
>!Aryan Resistance Militia
>
>oh, get a REAL ISP
>prodigy = aol...
Oh, they're fun (:
Aislinn White Rose
"Wulfruna" <wulf...@rightstuff.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> Paul Williams <ag...@NOSPAMholism.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:166ouske0ub1mn8u7...@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 07:50:21 +0100, "Wulfruna"
> > <wulf...@rightstuff.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> horror
> > >by saying 'God' doesn't let people experience the suffering? Sorry,
but
> > >this world is as real as any other world: pain hurts, people suffer.
> > >
> > >These ideas simply excuse the perpetuation of terror, horror and
> brutality.
> > >Worse, it sanitises and diminishes it to a mildly inconvenient hiccup
for
> > >the sufferer.
> > >
> > >You clearly think of yourself as some kind of prophet - I think you
need
> to
> > >get some medical help.
> >
> >
> > religion; christianity being one of th worst examples both throughout
> > history and in the modern world.
> >
> > There are plenty of good people who are also christian; but religion
> > like this is poison.
>
> 'Ay-men' to that, brother!
>
> --
> Wulfruna
>
>
>
WoW what an excuse for not doing anything....Well thats ok they can rape and
murder you . I will just walk away cause you know, your not really in your
body now and you aren't feeling it, besides it is Gods will
Forgive me but I don't believe in any HP that would will that to happen to
his children
Wulfruna
news:7haH5.8670$HF.6...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
I take it you are addressing this to the original poster, not to the rest of
us who are telling him what an idiot he is?
--
Wulfruna
Underground Panther
LOl I'd belive this guy... If The Black flame hadn't had a huge
interveiw spread on World Church of the Creator the (RAHOWA idiots)Aryan
group And if I wasen't apprached by WCOTC once and they told me thier
group was "Just like Satanism"..and the Klan wasen't spotted in Lavey's
house by Bonawitz,And there wasen't so much mind games and manipulation
crap floating around and it wasen't so ENCOURAGED..And if Lavey wasen't
such a social darwinist loser and isolated wannabe dick-tator rhetoric
spewing hypocrite with all these control fetishes,Andif the church
wasen't so good at having selective memory and the lower members were
not so good at lying to themselves.I'd belive him. Also if there
wasen't such an the obession with the fascist red/black imagry in
satanism coupled with a coddling of elitism,a livid hate of gentleness
or shows of compassion (they call this"Weak")Terms like Weak or strong
are just arbritrary defintions of a discriptive value,usually asserted
by someone seeking dominance,Feel free to laugh at them),I'd take him
seriously If People like Jantsang weren't crowing about hating
whites,and the whites weren't crowing about hating the poor,and Lavey
wasent yakking about jewish superiority while Jansange is in the
ADL,allegedly. and I'd belive him if there was not a morbid fear of
difference ,of secrets and a desire to"get in" on it from members,
A fear of shit disturbing, member inssurection, member vunerability,and
blind acceptance of this pathological obsession with individuation while
acting so obedient in a in model of blind conformity ,If there wasen't
obession with being born satanists and kissing ass to the ass above
yours Loyally to the agendas of the"leader"I might add,in a rigid top
down stratified,social"order" they think is SOOO Individual..and all
those tired old dominance/submission tirades..that is put in there for a
reason in"satanic "philosophy"
It leaves that door open, to all sorts of foaming reactionary racists
or nihilistic people haters, criminal typers con men,and egomaniacs with
insecurity issues,that can handle an alliance with a spooky image But
that assumption of looking for a few good assoles,it's always unspoken
of course.
If none of that was going on,then Yes Satanists do not have a fascist
agenda.
Yep They are racists ome are But I feel they are more like
fascists..elitist bullies..,looking to make the world a better place for
all jaded dominating assholes who exploit others for any reason and
think somehow it makes them into a master of the rest of us .And this
sort of superemacy is NOT race specific it's Cultural/inter relational
ETHICS specific..
Are the fascist? Depends on what are they EXCLUDING?And from the look of
it satanism is FASCIST and elitist based in promoting those based in how
cruel manipulating or hierchically you treat others. It's not racism but
it has the same sort of goals in a non-race based way..
.
Ezekiel J. Krahlin
<aislinnw...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>WoW what an excuse for not doing anything....Well thats ok they can rape and
>murder you .
Beg pardon, but, that is not my point at all...and I think that most
people who give my premise more than a cursory read, would agree with
me. News flash: history is riddled with nasty folks who *believe all
this horror occurs literally, and *still sit back and never resist.
I would think that those who are friends and relatives of such
victimized people (as in the Holocaust, or Vietnam War) would be
greatly *relieved to discover that their loves ones did *not meet such
a brutal demise. Don't you?
However, there are references to my philosophy in most
religions...just they are not primary in their teachings. The typical
remark "Death is an illusion" has been echoed through the ages by many
wise people.
>I will just walk away cause you know, your not really in your
>body now and you aren't feeling it, besides it is Gods will
Oh, no, again you have not thought through my ideas very well, at all.
Obviously (to most any reader), we are *seduced into believing that
such horrors really happen...and thus, in so believing, our reactions
to such events test our true mettle. The most courageous are those who
stand up to such perceived evil, at risk of their own death or
torture.
It is only later--when we have learned all of life's major
lessons--that the truth is revealed: that such horrors were only
contrived, rather than actually manifest. And IMO this philosophy is
the *only way one can reckon belief in a loving creator, while at the
same time accepting the apparant horrors in mankind's history.
Take the KKKristians, as an example. They believe in a loving god, yet
still believe that the worst horrors of humanity actually manifest
literally, all the way. IMO, they are only half right. There is *no
way a loving god would have such evil manifest. The KKKristians,
apparantly, have accepted rote ideas, and therefore failed to think
through a true definition of a "loving god", and what that really
implies. I have.
And I give credit to pagan ideas that led me to my belief
system...thus, the name "neo-Christianity" to separate it from
conventional KKKristianity. That is: I have "paganized" the KKKristian
religion, and thus cleansed it of its intrinsic horrors.
Ezekiel J. Krahlin
<aislinnw...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>WoW what an excuse for not doing anything....Well thats ok they can rape and
>murder you .
Furthermore, YOU DON'T KNOW at what point the person who is suffering,
has his or her soul leave that body. Only the spiritual beings
attending him/her know this. It is not up to you to pass such
judgement; it is your karmic duty to assume that person needs all the
love, comfort, healing, triage, and whatever other attention is
necessary to end his or her suffering.
But if you have done all you can, but to no avail, you of course must
walk away with a saddened heart. My philosophy offers redemption from
such sadness, in a way that no other conventional religion offers. And
does so without compromising whatever religion or world view that
person presently prefers. You need not call my idea
"neo-Christianity"; you could call it "neo-Judaism" or
"quasi-paganism", or even "neo-Neo" for that matter. One may even just
attach my philosophy to one's current belief system, if you so please.
Delila
>
>
>
> And I give credit to pagan ideas that led me to my belief
> system...thus, the name "neo-Christianity" to separate it from
> conventional KKKristianity. That is: I have "paganized" the KKKristian
> religion, and thus cleansed it of its intrinsic horrors.
>
>
Christianity is nothing but modified paganism anyway. How exactly did
you 'paganize' xianity?
Delila
Ezekiel J. Krahlin
> Christianity is nothing but modified paganism anyway. How exactly did
>you 'paganize' xianity?
I pretty much just explained how I did this, in this thread. I'm too
busy to rehash this for you. Visit my website for the answer to that
question. Read my "Parables for the 21st Century" for starters.
Ezekiel J. Krahlin
<wulf...@rightstuff.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>These ideas simply excuse the perpetuation of terror, horror and brutality.
>Worse, it sanitises and diminishes it to a mildly inconvenient hiccup for
>the sufferer.
That is very simplistic thinking on your part. What my idea does, is
liberate people from the shackles of believing in a God (or universe
if you will) that allows such atrocities to fulfill themselves on
innocent souls. Unfortunately, after so many eons of folks believing
such horrors, it is difficult to get people such as yourself, from
coming off their longterm addiction to suffering.
I did not reduce suffering to a "mild hiccup", but to something that
redeems us of a history of unspeakable crimes that threatened to echo
through all eternity. How could anyone enjoy "heaven" with such
knowledge haunting us forever (like a vengeful imp dancing around in
our skulls)? Your clutching onto such stalwart faith that horrendous
evil is necessary to our existence, is only a sign of the power of
this addiction.
Believe me, humans have suffered plenty, without adding the most
wickedly conceived terrors to the mix. The nobility of our souls
shines through our great trials, regardless. Discovering the truth
(that extraordinary, ruthless torment did *not really occur) does not
diminish this nobility one iota.
Get a grip on yourself, and stop obsessing over ungodly terror. It's
unnecessary and emotionally crippling, baggage.
>You clearly think of yourself as some kind of prophet -
Yes I do, and I'm for real. It's a great gift that has come to me, and
I am proud and honored.
>I think you need to get some medical help.
I already have it. And I have gotten a clean bill of health through
every test and examination. In fact, my present shrink acknowledges my
shaman nature...as have all the previous doctors. So I have better
than medical help, I have medical support!
autum...@my-deja.com
ezek...@my-deja.com (Ezekiel J. Krahlin) wrote:
> NEOCHRISTIANITY (PART 3 OF 3)
>
> Note: If you haven't yet read parts 1 and 2, you might familiarize
> yourself with them, at:
>
> http://netjunk.com/users/gaybible/write/neochrist.htm
>
> Or just use this quick capsule of my philosophy of "NeoChristianity":
>
> God (or Goddess, or Deity) does not allow anyone to suffer horrible
> atrocities such as The Holocaust and the Vietnam War. Before anyone
> could experience such a fate, his or her soul is shifted into the
> heavenly dimension, and the bodies are left to act out their scenario
> of horror, animated by angelic actors.
the Holocaust and Vietnam War were extreme examples, but.. I'll now
show how Great Spirit does, and no, I'm not invoking names such as
Odin. The circle of nature is simple, somethings are beautiful, some
are just life, and some are horrific. All make up life.
This way, we may learn about
> compassion, believing such horrors to actually exist; while at the
> same time, no person actually does suffer to such an extreme. If such
> a person is destined to be a survivor of a gruesome experience--such
> as from a Nazi concentration camp--his soul is finally returned to his
> original body, after the worst agonies are over, and have been
> completely healed. Then, in collaboration with the angels, he speaks
> to the world of his abyssmal suffering at the hands of these evil
> people. He or she has become, in essence, a Bodhisattva: one who has
> earned the right to enter heaven, but instead decides to return to
> earth in order to liberate more people. This is an act of compassion,
> a sacrifice that only glorifies himself and God, and the human spirit.
> He has an unbreakable pact with the angels, to never discuss the real
> truth: of his visit to Heaven, and return to act out an incredible
> plot for the sake of humanity.
No, this is simply your past. I've had one with a VietNam vet also, the
sickest puppy I can think of. We parted ways when he became a recluse,
well I will go to his house occasionally, but truthfully he cramps my
style in a major way. Not to mention gender.
> NEO-NAZI REVISIONISM: A SECOND LOOK
>
> (c) 2000 by Ezekiel J. Krahlin
>
> Applying my new quasi-pagan philosophy of "NeoChristianity" to The
> Holocaust, I have to conclude that the neo-Nazis are correct in
> claiming that it never actually occurred. Granted, I'm approaching
> this from a different direction than Nazis, but the outcome is the
> same: there was no real holocaust. As I said earlier, God would never
> let any of his children suffer such horrors of war; that he'd first
> remove the souls from any bodies about to undergo great torment. And
> surely, this Holocaust qualifies as an experience too horrible for any
> human to deserve, or endure. (This also applies to the Vietnam War,
> which I will touch upon a little later.)
>
> Actually, it was a memorable encounter with a skinhead that led me to
> this conclusion about The Holocaust; which then inspired me to develop
> this ground-breaking NeoChristian philosophy. Several weeks ago (late
> September 2000) after the sun had set, I was reading from my Faggot
> Bible at Harvey Milk Plaza; when a very husky, young and blonde-haired
> man came up to me and put his strong arm around my neck, while
> listening to me read the poem "Welcome to Athenia". He then said
> (still leaning against me, arm draped over my shoulders) with a thick
> German accent: "I like what you are saying. You know, I am a skinhead,
> a neo-Nazi, and we usually bash queers like you. But you are
> different, you speak of important things. Read me another poem,
> please."
My cousin is a skinhead too, no point. Any thinking person couldn't
agree. Well no, there are some, they wear brown shirts. Skipping down
you made mention of an ice age, possible but not too probable. The nuts
and bolts of an ice age; when you start hearing and reading reports of
silt, then prepare for one. Otherwise just go on as you have, it ain't
happening.
Autumn
Ezekiel J. Krahlin
>The circle of nature is simple, somethings are beautiful, some
>are just life, and some are horrific. All make up life.
I am only presenting an alternative philosophy. Since you oppose me
without making anti-gay slurs, or insulting me, I offer no argument
against you.
>No, this is simply your past. I've had one with a VietNam vet also, the
>sickest puppy I can think of.
This was not the case with my Randolph. He is an amazing man, even
through the worst of his PTSD .
>We parted ways when he became a recluse,
I am sorry to hear things came to that. I'm sure you've planted a seed
of liberation in his heart that will eventually lead to a complete
recovery. I'm also sure you withstood incredible trials for his sake.
>well I will go to his house occasionally, but truthfully he cramps my
>style in a major way. Not to mention gender.
Of course, you must remove yourself from his troubled state...as to
help any more, would make you just a masochist. I thank you from the
bottom of my heart, for loving a Nam Vet. Your compassionate efforts
on his behalf will, eventually, bear much positive results.
Faust
draught of bullshit. I've been busy. For anything else please see in
text.
On Sun, 15 Oct 2000 06:25:12 GMT, ezek...@my-deja.com (Ezekiel J.
Krahlin) wrote:
>NEOCHRISTIANITY (PART 3 OF 3)
>
>Note: If you haven't yet read parts 1 and 2, you might familiarize
>yourself with them, at:
>
> http://netjunk.com/users/gaybible/write/neochrist.htm
>
>Or just use this quick capsule of my philosophy of "NeoChristianity":
>
>God (or Goddess, or Deity) does not allow anyone to suffer horrible
>atrocities such as The Holocaust and the Vietnam War. Before anyone
>could experience such a fate, his or her soul is shifted into the
>heavenly dimension, and the bodies are left to act out their scenario
>of horror, animated by angelic actors.
I know a lot of people who's souls were "removed by god" who have
serious emotional scars. Which means "heaven" is an absolutely
terrible place! Which would explain why my mother-in-law plan to be
there when she finally decides she's tortured enough people.
>This way, we may learn about
>compassion, believing such horrors to actually exist; while at the
>same time, no person actually does suffer to such an extreme. If such
>a person is destined to be a survivor of a gruesome experience--such
>as from a Nazi concentration camp--his soul is finally returned to his
>original body, after the worst agonies are over, and have been
>completely healed.
You have a very strange idea of "completely healed."
>Then, in collaboration with the angels, he speaks
>to the world of his abyssmal suffering at the hands of these evil
>people. He or she has become, in essence, a Bodhisattva: one who has
>earned the right to enter heaven, but instead decides to return to
>earth in order to liberate more people. This is an act of compassion,
>a sacrifice that only glorifies himself and God, and the human spirit.
>He has an unbreakable pact with the angels, to never discuss the real
>truth: of his visit to Heaven, and return to act out an incredible
>plot for the sake of humanity.
Oh look ... yet another xtiod with delusions of grandeur and a martyr
complex. Go figure.
>
>NEO-NAZI REVISIONISM: A SECOND LOOK
>
>(c) 2000 by Ezekiel J. Krahlin
>
>Applying my new quasi-pagan philosophy of "NeoChristianity" to The
>Holocaust, I have to conclude that the neo-Nazis are correct in
>claiming that it never actually occurred. Granted, I'm approaching
>this from a different direction than Nazis, but the outcome is the
>same: there was no real holocaust. As I said earlier, God would never
>let any of his children suffer such horrors of war; that he'd first
>remove the souls from any bodies about to undergo great torment. And
>surely, this Holocaust qualifies as an experience too horrible for any
>human to deserve, or endure. (This also applies to the Vietnam War,
>which I will touch upon a little later.)
I have news for you. If your god does exist, he is an asshole! I
supposed he delivered the souls of the egyptian soldiers who pursued
moses, the first born male children of egypt, and all those people who
couldn't tread water for 40 years into heaven as well. How about the
souls of the muslims killed during the crusades or those tried for
witchcraft by the inquisition or the puritans?
Hmmm.... seems your god gets off on human misery. He is sure as hell
responsible for enough of it.
>
>Actually, it was a memorable encounter with a skinhead that led me to
>this conclusion about The Holocaust; which then inspired me to develop
>this ground-breaking NeoChristian philosophy. Several weeks ago (late
>September 2000) after the sun had set, I was reading from my Faggot
>Bible at Harvey Milk Plaza; when a very husky, young and blonde-haired
>man came up to me and put his strong arm around my neck, while
>listening to me read the poem "Welcome to Athenia". He then said
>(still leaning against me, arm draped over my shoulders) with a thick
>German accent: "I like what you are saying. You know, I am a skinhead,
>a neo-Nazi, and we usually bash queers like you. But you are
>different, you speak of important things. Read me another poem,
>please."
Nobody talks like that. Set down the bong when you're posting! It'll
make your utterances seem more believable.
>
>So I then read one dedicated to my Nam Vet lover, Randolph; the one
>entitled "Bring My Soldier Home to Me". My Nazi friend liked that one
>a whole lot, and offered to protect me should anyone give me a hard
>time in public. "You're no faggot," he said, "you're different. What
>do you like to be called? Gay?" So I said, "Actually, I like the word
>'Thracian', because it's a much more noble and warrior-type word for a
>gay man." And he liked that, too.
>
>So I read another poem to him, and while reciting, a gay man walked by
>and remarked under his breath: "Screw you". My new companion jumped to
>alert, and said, "See! That's a faggot, not a gay...not Thracian. Want
>me to rough him up?" I said, "No, that's not necessary. Later on, when
>I get really infamous, I'm sure your support will be greatly needed."
>(I loved the idea of my own bodyguard while reading my gay screeds in
>public. But for now, my only protection is a canister of pepper
>spray.)
Can we fast forward to the part were you get hung on a stick and die
for us all?
>
>He spoke also, of how the neo-Nazis are misunderstood in some very
>important ways; that they are fighting to preserve the German culture,
>they are not all bad. I respectfully listened to him, and offered no
>argument in my attempt to hear his side of the story. I don't remember
>all the particulars he spoke, due to his difficult accent and broken
>English; but before we parted, he asked me to write my phone number on
>his arm, so he could call me tomorrow. After scrawling my number just
>above his wrist, and saying our goodbyes: it struck me how similar the
>numbers looked (due to where they were placed) to those that were
>embedded on the arms of concentration camp survivors.
>
>The guy never phoned me, but the next evening I thought further on our
>encounter, when a vision came to me, through whom spoke the Norse god
>Odin. He show me wondrous images of the northern climes: the beautiful
>lands of snow and ice, kingdom of the Vikings. "We are a very strong
>people," boasted Odin "We will protect you, we will vindicate you."
Odin was not a "protector deity." What you no doubt experience was a
hallucination. My uncle once saw the virgin mary through the bottom of
a beer bottle, she said something very similar.
>
>Then I saw a picture of the Greek gods and goddesses being decimated
>in a horrible war in the skies...until the Norse gods came to their
>rescue. And since then, the Greek and Viking gods have been great
>comrades to each other. Now, I--as representative of the Elf Clan/Gay
>Community--am appealing to these Nordic deities to help us win our
>rights, our freedom. Odin said, "Do not fear us, we hear you, and we
>love you. You shall be victorious."
the norse gods rescuing the greeks. Next you'll tell us you saw the
vandals rebuilding rome.
<<<Snipped >>>
>
>Today, I just looked up "Odin" in my electronic encylopedia, to learn
>this:
>
>"Odin (Old Norse Odhinn, Anglo-Saxon Woden, Old High German Wódan,
>Woutan), in Norse mythology, king of the gods. His two black ravens,
>Huginn (“Thought”) and Muninn (“Memory”), flew forth daily to gather
>tidings of events all over the world. As god of war, Odin held court
>in Valhalla, where all brave warriors went after death in battle. His
>greatest treasures were his eight-footed steed, Sleipner, his spear,
>Gunger, and his ring, Draupner. Odin was also the god of wisdom,
>poetry, and magic, and he sacrificed an eye for the privilege of
>drinking from Mimir, the fountain of wisdom."
>
>The part about his sacrificing an eye struck me like Thor's bolt of
>lightning: I have just recently suffered a temporary partial blindness
>of my left eye, due to an inflamed retina. Now recovering fully, I
>take this experience as a physical manifestation of the spritual
>metaphor for my own new-found wisdom, especially that gained from
>Odin's incredible visitation.
Odin was the god of wisdom alright. He dressed like a woman to learn
the secrets of the norse witches. He sacrificed his eye and was
impaled upon the world ash. And when Odin appeared before a mortal, it
was never good! Odin was NOT a nice deity! He was NOT worshipped; he
was placated. He was NOT revered; he was FEARED!!!
>
<<<Snipped more idiotic ramblings>>>
>
>A FINAL THOUGHT
>
Here's my final thought: YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!!
>
>---finis
Ezekiel J. Krahlin
>I know a lot of people who's souls were "removed by god" who have
>serious emotional scars. Which means "heaven" is an absolutely
>terrible place! Which would explain why my mother-in-law plan to be
>there when she finally decides she's tortured enough people.
Your satirical responses notwithstanding, there is nothing you have
said that disproves my particular philosophy, which I am evolving from
the kernel idea. You persist in your own perspective, as if it were
the final word. My perspective holds up through any challenge that has
so far been offered...and is a valid addition to the pantheon of
spiritual belief systems.
>>as from a Nazi concentration camp--his soul is finally returned to his
>>original body, after the worst agonies are over, and have been
>>completely healed.
>
>You have a very strange idea of "completely healed."
If by "strange" you mean unique...well, of course, since obviously, my
spirit is giving birth to an entirely new mythology, or religion, or
whatever you want to call it. But I sense you really mean by "strange"
is: "This does not agree with how I insist on perceiving the world."
>I have news for you. If your god does exist, he is an asshole!
This is not *my God, but *our God (or Goddess). You are not even
allowing yourself to sample my perspective, before you begin to rant
against what is a more loving and rational interpretation of our
creator. You sound like a Christian fundamentatlist,
actually...totally wrapped up in insisted that your creator must, and
always will be, violent.
>I supposed he delivered the souls of the egyptian soldiers who pursued
>moses, the first born male children of egypt, and all those people who
>couldn't tread water for 40 years into heaven as well. How about the
>souls of the muslims killed during the crusades or those tried for
>witchcraft by the inquisition or the puritans?
That does not challenge my developing philosophy even a little bit.
What about them? I never said that, by accepting my philosophy, one
can then immediately know all particulars about every single event and
individual. That would still require extensive research and spiritual
guidance.
Obviously, I am implying that one must not accept everything one sees,
or that one is taught, at face value. This is pretty much understood
by spiritually-oriented types of any stripe, both traditional and
alternative. So all I did was to apply such a method, in order to
develop a truly innovative and integrating belief system. The mistake
you are making, is assuming that your belief system is the absolute
and final answer...so whatever I suggest is totally invalid. This
means you are mentally every bit as rigid as the most zealous Muslim
or KKKrisitan. It does *not mean that I have erred on my philosophical
idea.
>Hmmm.... seems your god gets off on human misery. He is sure as hell
>responsible for enough of it.
Then you haven't really read what I have said, is all. My philosophy
starts on the very premise that our create is *not malicious at all.
And if that be so, then one cannot accept at face value, the physical
and historical evidence that provides a record of horrendous evil
throughout history. One must then develop a belief system where "face
value" can easily be deceptive, and that therefore our God created a
brilliant scheme by which to teach us lessons of compassion without
required genuine acts of real evil (only staged acts).
This is in total opposition to conventional KKKristianity. And
obviously, in opposition to those alternative types who, like
yourself, literally DEMAND that we *must believe in a creator who
permits extremes of malicious to actually manifest (for whatever
perverted reason). As I said in another message, this speaks mountains
about *you, far more than about any belief system.
>Nobody talks like that. Set down the bong when you're posting! It'll
>make your utterances seem more believable.
Sorry to disappoint you. That is exactly the conversation we had. You
weren't there. Too bad.
>Can we fast forward to the part were you get hung on a stick and die
>for us all?
Again, sorry to disappoint you. I'm already hung...very well hung, in
fact. I cannot die, even if I wanted too...I don't believe in
death...that, too, is a scam, an illusion. Nor do I believe in
torturing oneself in order to attain Godhead. "Always a saint, but
never a martyr" is how I like to phrase it.
>Odin was not a "protector deity." What you no doubt experience was a
>hallucination.
No, it was a vision, communication with Odin's spirit. This new
mythology evolving from my visions is giving us new stories, new
perceptions. In my appeal to the Gods for Gay Liberation, Odin and all
the Norse Gods have come to defend and liberate us. What you are
doing, is interpreting everything based on past, and likely limited,
understandings. In created a new mythology, one must often *break with
tradition, as well as continue the lineage.
>My uncle once saw the virgin mary through the bottom of
>a beer bottle, she said something very similar.
I am capable of discerning between fantasy and prophecy (and other
genuine visions). You insist I'm not, though you have no knowledge of
me. This certainly does not qualify you to put a final decision on my
statements.
>the norse gods rescuing the greeks. Next you'll tell us you saw the
>vandals rebuilding rome.
Rome is not part of Greek mythology. Though they will rebuild
Classical Greece by taking Northern California and, under its new name
of "Athenia", restoring much of that Golden Era. With a few new
twists, of course.
When in Rome, vandalize.
>And when Odin appeared before a mortal, it
>was never good! Odin was NOT a nice deity! He was NOT worshipped; he
>was placated. He was NOT revered; he was FEARED!!!
You insist on defining Odin by tradition, while it is obvious I am
creating new mythology, by weaving old tales from various cultures
into a gay-liberating new religion. As it says in the Tibetan Book of
the Dead: as you ascend to higher levels, by showing no fear to the
demons, they will drop their masks to reveal that they, too, are
angels...thus allowing you to pass to an even higher level. So, Odin
dropped his mask of terror for the sake of my appeals to end
persecution of gay people, here on earth.
Faust
Please - see in text
On Mon, 30 Oct 2000 03:31:56 GMT, ezek...@my-deja.com (Ezekiel J.
Krahlin) wrote:
>On Sun, 29 Oct 2000 12:26:59 GMT, Faust <fa...@new.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>I know a lot of people who's souls were "removed by god" who have
>>serious emotional scars. Which means "heaven" is an absolutely
>>terrible place! Which would explain why my mother-in-law plan to be
>>there when she finally decides she's tortured enough people.
>
>Your satirical responses notwithstanding, there is nothing you have
>said that disproves my particular philosophy, which I am evolving from
>the kernel idea. You persist in your own perspective, as if it were
>the final word. My perspective holds up through any challenge that has
>so far been offered...and is a valid addition to the pantheon of
>spiritual belief systems.
I have an uncle who drops to the ground when he hears the click of a
jukebox changing songs. What happened to him while in heaven that
would cause that? I have seen a whole wall of names listing people god
chose not to spare.
My perspective is not the final word on anything. But my eyes and ears
disprove your theories. Your religion, like all others requires faith
that you are correct. Show me some facts to back up your drivel.
>
>>>as from a Nazi concentration camp--his soul is finally returned to his
>>>original body, after the worst agonies are over, and have been
>>>completely healed.
>>
>>You have a very strange idea of "completely healed."
>
>If by "strange" you mean unique...well, of course, since obviously, my
>spirit is giving birth to an entirely new mythology, or religion, or
>whatever you want to call it. But I sense you really mean by "strange"
>is: "This does not agree with how I insist on perceiving the world."
No I mean strange as in BAD ACID TRIP!!!
>
>>I have news for you. If your god does exist, he is an asshole!
>
>This is not *my God, but *our God (or Goddess). You are not even
>allowing yourself to sample my perspective, before you begin to rant
>against what is a more loving and rational interpretation of our
>creator. You sound like a Christian fundamentatlist,
>actually...totally wrapped up in insisted that your creator must, and
>always will be, violent.
My creator is violent! He is about 5 foot six and losing his hair.
What little he has is turning gray. He is a grueling master who
expects complete obedience. His word was law until I turn eighteen.
I call him DAD.
>
>>I supposed he delivered the souls of the egyptian soldiers who pursued
>>moses, the first born male children of egypt, and all those people who
>>couldn't tread water for 40 years into heaven as well. How about the
>>souls of the muslims killed during the crusades or those tried for
>>witchcraft by the inquisition or the puritans?
>
>That does not challenge my developing philosophy even a little bit.
>What about them? I never said that, by accepting my philosophy, one
>can then immediately know all particulars about every single event and
>individual. That would still require extensive research and spiritual
>guidance.
>
>Obviously, I am implying that one must not accept everything one sees,
>or that one is taught, at face value. This is pretty much understood
>by spiritually-oriented types of any stripe, both traditional and
>alternative. So all I did was to apply such a method, in order to
>develop a truly innovative and integrating belief system. The mistake
>you are making, is assuming that your belief system is the absolute
>and final answer...so whatever I suggest is totally invalid. This
>means you are mentally every bit as rigid as the most zealous Muslim
>or KKKrisitan. It does *not mean that I have erred on my philosophical
>idea.
Here is the beautiful part! Your perceptions of me paints the same
picture of you. Unlike you, I have not posted my beliefs on a public
network to be tore apart by those who have the time and inclination.
You know not even the slightest bit about me.
But I know a bit about you. Based on your "new religion" I can tell
you are an escapist. Your seek to leave reality. How convenient to
believe that your soul suffers no earthly torment. This just takes the
christian ideal of a better place in heaven to the next step of
absurdity.
I submit to you that, if more people worried as much about the here
and now than the here after, the world would be a better place.
>
>>Hmmm.... seems your god gets off on human misery. He is sure as hell
>>responsible for enough of it.
>
>Then you haven't really read what I have said, is all. My philosophy
>starts on the very premise that our create is *not malicious at all.
>And if that be so, then one cannot accept at face value, the physical
>and historical evidence that provides a record of horrendous evil
>throughout history. One must then develop a belief system where "face
>value" can easily be deceptive, and that therefore our God created a
>brilliant scheme by which to teach us lessons of compassion without
>required genuine acts of real evil (only staged acts).
>
>This is in total opposition to conventional KKKristianity. And
>obviously, in opposition to those alternative types who, like
>yourself, literally DEMAND that we *must believe in a creator who
>permits extremes of malicious to actually manifest (for whatever
>perverted reason). As I said in another message, this speaks mountains
>about *you, far more than about any belief system.
News flash!!! The ONLY trinity I believe in is ME, MYSELF, & I
(Although, that lady in Matrix was pretty sweet, I must admit.)
>
>>Nobody talks like that. Set down the bong when you're posting! It'll
>>make your utterances seem more believable.
>
>Sorry to disappoint you. That is exactly the conversation we had. You
>weren't there. Too bad.
>
I am glad I wasn't. I don't think I could have held back the tears...
What a touching moment...
>>Can we fast forward to the part were you get hung on a stick and die
>>for us all?
>
>Again, sorry to disappoint you. I'm already hung...very well hung, in
>fact. I cannot die, even if I wanted too...I don't believe in
>death...that, too, is a scam, an illusion. Nor do I believe in
>torturing oneself in order to attain Godhead. "Always a saint, but
>never a martyr" is how I like to phrase it.
See I told you that you were an escapist. Death is real pal! It's were
old people go after Florida.
>
>>Odin was not a "protector deity." What you no doubt experience was a
>>hallucination.
>
>No, it was a vision, communication with Odin's spirit. This new
>mythology evolving from my visions is giving us new stories, new
>perceptions. In my appeal to the Gods for Gay Liberation, Odin and all
>the Norse Gods have come to defend and liberate us. What you are
>doing, is interpreting everything based on past, and likely limited,
>understandings. In created a new mythology, one must often *break with
>tradition, as well as continue the lineage.
I keep forgetting. Religion isn't based on rational thought. My
apologies.
>
>>My uncle once saw the virgin mary through the bottom of
>>a beer bottle, she said something very similar.
>
>I am capable of discerning between fantasy and prophecy (and other
>genuine visions). You insist I'm not, though you have no knowledge of
>me. This certainly does not qualify you to put a final decision on my
>statements.
>
Sure you are...
>>the norse gods rescuing the greeks. Next you'll tell us you saw the
>>vandals rebuilding rome.
>
>Rome is not part of Greek mythology. Though they will rebuild
>Classical Greece by taking Northern California and, under its new name
>of "Athenia", restoring much of that Golden Era. With a few new
>twists, of course.
>
>When in Rome, vandalize.
>
You are correct Rome was not part of greek mythology - it was part of
Greek Reality!!!
>>And when Odin appeared before a mortal, it
>>was never good! Odin was NOT a nice deity! He was NOT worshipped; he
>>was placated. He was NOT revered; he was FEARED!!!
>
>You insist on defining Odin by tradition, while it is obvious I am
>creating new mythology, by weaving old tales from various cultures
>into a gay-liberating new religion. As it says in the Tibetan Book of
>the Dead: as you ascend to higher levels, by showing no fear to the
>demons, they will drop their masks to reveal that they, too, are
>angels...thus allowing you to pass to an even higher level. So, Odin
>dropped his mask of terror for the sake of my appeals to end
>persecution of gay people, here on earth.
>
Damn ain't he sweet! But this is the new, completely fabricated,
Odin. Who bears no resemblance to the Odin of the past.
Jaguar
>On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Ezekiel J. Krahlin wrote:
> >These ideas simply excuse the perpetuation of terror, horror and brutality.
> >Worse, it sanitises and diminishes it to a mildly inconvenient hiccup for
> >the sufferer.
> That is very simplistic thinking on your part. What my idea does, is
> liberate people from the shackles of believing in a God (or universe
No it does not.
What it does is to render pain & suffering meaningless, & absolves the
perpetrator of responsibility/ guilt for causing another pain.
Consider:
If an 'angel actor' steps in & the real person fades out when beaten,
tortured, ect.... it's not REALLY a person you are hurting.
That can quickly lead to " It's OK to beat up people, mash kittens ect....
for they don't feel the pain. The angel actor does. So I'm not REALLY
hurting anyone/anything. It's all an illusion. So it is OK if I mash the
kitten.
Also note, that sociopaths that torture animals & do serial killings DO
NOT recognize others (human or animal) as capable of feeling pain.
Your "angel actor" bit will only serve to support such thought patterns.
Why bother to stop Gay Bashing, if it is only an 'Angel actor' that gets
beaten up?
> if you will) that allows such atrocities to fulfill themselves on
> innocent souls. Unfortunately, after so many eons of folks believing
> such horrors, it is difficult to get people such as yourself, from
> coming off their longterm addiction to suffering.
Pretending an addiction does not exist does nothing to break it.
Pretending pain & suffering does not exist, but is all an illusion, will
do nothing to minimize the horrors of the world.
& you ARE pretending that when you say an angel steps in, & pain is not
felt by the actual creature experiencing it.
> I did not reduce suffering to a "mild hiccup", but to something that
> redeems us of a history of unspeakable crimes that threatened to echo
Children learn from mistakes & pain from those mistakes.
Some don't understand what 'Fire HOT' means until they actualy burn
themselves grabbing a flame or coal.
Mankind, as a species, is blundering out of childhood.
Like a child, mankind is becoming aware of more than only itself, and is
learning to see the impact on others.
Like a toddler that used to pull & chew on a dog's ears, it is learning
that such actions hurt the dog, & there are better ways to interact.
> through all eternity. How could anyone enjoy "heaven" with such
> knowledge haunting us forever (like a vengeful imp dancing around in
Heaven? What is heaven?
> our skulls)? Your clutching onto such stalwart faith that horrendous
> evil is necessary to our existence, is only a sign of the power of
> this addiction.
Sticking your head in the sand, pretending the world doesn't exist won't
make it go away.
Life feeds on life.
Lifeforms feel pain & learn.
A nose full of quills teaches the dog to stay away from the porcupine.
Jag
cus...@my-deja.com
<Magic Rat rolls in, laughing... and applauding.
> Whoo hoo! Interesting stuff... A few gaping
flaws, but just the kind of wacky stuff to show
us what's going on in people's heads...
The first thing, Ezekiel, is that while the take
on trauma-dissociation is interesting, I got a
few problems with it:
It's a highly optimistic, New-Agey syncretization
of the phenomenon we in the shaman business call
"soul loss..." If it were happenning that way,
the god of the Bible probably wouldn't be the one
to thank for it, after all, if the guy's
supposed to have a policy of condemning people to
eternal suffering, it hardly makes sense that
he'd be so averse to the human condition that
nobody is ever allowed to actually experience the
worst of it.
However, notions of people being 'changelinged'
in traumatic situations, their real souls getting
down with the faeries while the faery soul
endures the crap visited upon the person, aren't
unknown to the Irish tradition.
Unfortunately, in real life, especially in a
Christian frame of mind, it was considered
perfectly normal to commit all manner of
atrocities to children and women <instead of the
older practice of having a seer go into the sidh
and try to set things right in both worlds> in
order to get the 'real' child or wife back.
This often served only to justify abuse by
dehumanizing the victim...
Just as Christian extremism has seen countless
people tortured or killed by denying that their
experiences are real... or at least by saying
there's some 'cosmic purpose' which absolves the
wrongdoer of any accountability for their
actions.
While a traumatic experience may often result in
a "shamanic break," as we call it, it can just as
often separate people from the joy in the world,
*as well* as sperating them from the part of
their souls that feels compassion... Hence, the
abused quite often become the abusers later on.
As with many New Age visions that put a
rose-coloured face on the dominant American
religion, I think it actually can run *counter*
to compassion to believe that the suffering of
people at other peoples' hands is in any way not
"real;" pain might be illusion, in a cosmic
sense, but that *doesn't* make it ok, and it just
*doesn't* mean that its effects don't ripple out
in this shadow-dance we call "reality."
The inspiration you've had is nice, and shiny,
but it smacks a bit of Platonic assumptions: to
wit, is your analysis of what you've experienced
tempered by observation and discernment, or only
your need to put the universe into a form you can
stomach?
Read your own writings, here. It seems almost
every sentence is based on "Me," "My," "Mine;"
and the battle of ego is joined...
If calling yourself a prophet gets you through
the night, then great... We probably need a few.
But if you're a medium, are *you* supposed* to
be the message? The shamanic gift is a gift of
*seeing* and experiencing... And bringing those
riches back to the tribe...
If you're speaking *your* message, you need to
admit that to yourself.
Talk it up, rave, be beautiful, posture about
your spirit helpers, Mess with our heads...
responsibly... But beware of classification...
Beware, indeed, of revisionism. Not that I
particularly listen to the Vikings that I was
watching rape and pillage their way up the
Shannon a thousand years ago for the last word in
what the Norse dieties are about, but neither is
tradition to be blithely ignored... It's wiser
than we moderns are taught to think it is.
Spirit does work wonders, and there's enough
brightness out there to go around.... However,
I can tell you for sure that the universe doesn't
sit around plucking people out of their bodies at
the moment of extreme suffering, to drop a bunch
of bohdisattva on us when it's over.
I think what's going on in Israel right now
pretty much blows that Holocaust assertion out of
the water, for instance.
Personally, I *don't* believe in the jealous and
cruel christian diety, nor do I call by the same
name any omni-benevolent warm fuzzy universal
white light..
It's not *necessary* that great suffering exist,
and spirit does have ways to spare some the worst
of it... That doesn't mean it's not part of the
challenge of our lives.
We have to engage the world as it is presented to
us... There's no need to get defensive about
"your message;" in fact, the more you commit
yourself to any one mask you make for creation,
the harder it'll be to learn, and the fall from
ego will be that much harder to walk.
Not that bold and beautiful screwups aren't
teaching us something, too, but you might want
to think what you're saying.
You *bet* people are suspicious about this kind
of denial... It's doubtless seen as just a
prettier face on the Calvinism that's crept into
modern ethics already.
"The suffering of others isn't real," it says,
And that's just no darn good.
Even if it were true.
Blessed be
Magic Rat
--Don't ask me, Midgarder. I just work here.--
Ezekiel J. Krahlin
>The inspiration you've had is nice, and shiny,
>but it smacks a bit of Platonic assumptions: to
>wit, is your analysis of what you've experienced
>tempered by observation and discernment, or only
>your need to put the universe into a form you can
>stomach?
Observation and discernment.
I see no point in arguing different philosophies, as they each have
their own validity. I am offering a new philosophy, which you perceive
to be superficial, and excusing of horrible crimes. That is not at all
so. No need for me to rehash the obvious.
However, I do thank you for voicing your introspection, and helping
all of us to think further on this matter. I think some passage of
time in these next few months--as we enter the next millenium--will
affirm my perceptions. I am *not here to say you are wrong and I am
right...but I *am presenting these messages that come to me as
powerful images and instructions. No doubt more shall soon
ensue...just give me a little time to catch my breath!
Ezekiel J. Krahlin
>Don't misunderstand, I am not criticizing you life style, just your
>new religion.
Understood.
>Why not choose deities who would not have driven an axe
>threw your skull for even thinking what you wrote? The greek & roman
>pantheons come to mind.
This is less a matter of choice on my part, but of visions that come
to me, complete with instructions (on what I am to write, and create
for this new mythology). Archetypes from many different world views
are presenting themselves before me, and telling me new tales that
often are woven with other, previously-unrelated mythologies. The
reason I am also including Nordic deities, is because they are very
important in the scheme of things, and to ignore or exclude them is
like tearing out a man's heart in order to stop a wound from bleeding.
As for the Greeks: I have already incorporated some of their deities
into my parables...see my website for more.
>That's just my 2 cents. Who am I to question the new messiah?
The Messiah is here to serve humanity, as well as lead...and to
acknowledge the Messiah in each of us. My visions are definitely
Messianic/Apocalyptic...though how literally they will manifest
through me in the long run, remains to be seen. I don't claim to
understand it all, but I have to conclude that something momentous is
stirring in my soul, which I regard as a great gift (mostly
undeserved). If or when others rise to the fore, as Messiahs in their
own right, is not for me to decide. I have therefore concluded that I
am most likely an avatar, though probably not the *only avatar.
MsCirce
a man in the 20's that said he had messengers deliver all the text for that
book to him in his sleep. I really don't see how one person could have
possibly made all of that is written in that book up.
"Ezekiel J. Krahlin" <ezek...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:39fe335a...@news.cis.dfn.de...
Ezekiel J. Krahlin
wrote:
>Ezekial just out of curiosity,have you ever read The Urantia Book?
No. That tremendous tome somehow managed to elude my grasp. However, I
knew a few followerts of Urantia teachings...very nice people, fed
their dogs and cats only a vegetarian diet.
>There was
>a man in the 20's that said he had messengers deliver all the text for that
>book to him in his sleep. I really don't see how one person could have
>possibly made all of that is written in that book up.
Well, William Blake also believed he was constantly surrounded by
angels, and claimed to converse and take strolls with them. I'm sure
there are numerous others throughout our history, and in many
different cultures, who are similarly gifted. Though I have read
portions of the Urantia book, nothing seemed to stick in memory. But I
certainly can accept the author's belief that he is a spiritual
messenger.
I know I certainly am a messenger...and my angelic gossipers tell me
there will arise many, many gays similarly influenced, very soon. They
say that this holiday season will be a rip-roaring series of
earth-shaking events. They say "Fasten your seatbelt, it's gonna be a
bumpy ride!" (Geez, how did Betty Davis get in on all this? Oh, that's
right; she'd dead, she's one of them now.)
Magic Rat
>
> >The inspiration you've had is nice, and shiny,
> >but it smacks a bit of Platonic assumptions: to
> >wit, is your analysis of what you've experienced
> >tempered by observation and discernment, or only
> >your need to put the universe into a form you can
> >stomach?
>
> Observation and discernment.
>
observations and maybe after that demonstrate how your discernment
came about.
> I see no point in arguing different philosophies, as they each have
> their own validity. I am offering a new philosophy, which you
perceive
> to be superficial, and excusing of horrible crimes.
I was actually talking there about how it's not a new concept, and
what's happenned in the past when that concept was taken out of
context; particularly by Christian syncretism.
>That is not at
all
> so. No need for me to rehash the obvious.
>
Sure. I do, however, commend you to stories about the burning of
Bridget Cleary.
> However, I do thank you for voicing your introspection, and helping
> all of us to think further on this matter. I think some passage of
> time in these next few months--as we enter the next millenium--will
> affirm my perceptions. I am *not here to say you are wrong and I am
> right...but I *am presenting these messages that come to me as
> powerful images and instructions. No doubt more shall soon
> ensue...just give me a little time to catch my breath!
>
Whatever visions you may have had, I submit that there's more coming,
and it'll probably blow your mind again, more than once, as the
tapestry of spirits and their many masks show you just how much bigger
reality is than our beliefs and comprehensions.
By all means, catch your breath, before you end up cemented in your own
words. Madness can follow when your spirit finds it has to struggle to
escape the confines of the house your mind has built with words.
Many mistake for final revelations what is really just the opening of a
door into a wide realm of memory, change, dream, and Dance. Not
everyone can handle it, but I have an intuition that if you got away
from the need to convert, convince, or otherwise get people to agree
with you, it'd be a powerful Dance indeed. Words are masks of ideas,
and ideas are masks of spirit-happennings...
The words aren't the point. What they represent is only a part of the
manifold Point. What those in turn represent, is Wow.
Blessed Be.
Magic Rat
<pause for a favourite musical question..
--
"Can you feel it, hear it, see it today,
If your can't, then it doesn't matter anyway
You could never understand it cause it happens too fast
and it feels so good, it's like walking on glass...
It's alive, afraid, it's a lie, a frame
It's magic, it's tragic, it's a loss, it's a win,
It's daft, it's noise, it's a bitter pain
You want it all but you can't have it
It's in your face but you can't grab it
What is it?"
--Faith No More, "Epic"
Ezekiel J. Krahlin
wrote:
>Groovy, when you come back from your break, you can state your
>observations and maybe after that demonstrate how your discernment
>came about.
Observations:
-That what I observe with my eyes or any of my other physical senses
are not necessarily to be trusted.
- That what I observe in the world of imagination is not always one's
imagination, but communique from higher forces.
- That learning to distinguish one's imagination from communique is
the beginning of discernment.
Discernments:
- That the gift of discernment has allowed my visions given via
communique to come through more clearly and frequently.
- That once having made this breakthrough to clear discernment,
putting complete trust in such discernment only increases the accuracy
of these visions.
My discernment came about through many years of learning about the
world, specifically through a gay perspective. The most powerful
lessons resulted in my devoted relationship to one Vietnam Veteran
named Randolph Louis Taylor. Observations about my relationship with
Randolph, especially with much hindsight, hinted at the likelihood of
his actually being my guardian angel...whose incredible adventures
triggered my own spiritual growth at an explosive rate. (I thus
concluded that his shooting himself by the Vietnam Veterans Memorial
in D.C.--and surviving it--was an incredible scam to awaken my heart.)
Until now, when our souls are truly merging in preparation for his
return to me (or mine to him) in the physical plane...at which time,
we will be a force to be reckoned with, with the whole world's
attentions upon our relationship and activities. If you want to learn
more about Randolph, see this website I've dedicated to him:
http://www.fortunecity.com/village/weaver/76/
Randolph's spirit, as my Guardian, tells me I am his son, that I was
created by the gathering of a circle of 12 angels, he being the master
of this group. They gave birth to me in the center of their ring,
around which they all fasted and meditated until I was "hatched". They
then artificially inseminated a married women on earth, with my
spirit, that I may be born unto earth to accomplish my mission. I now
remember Randoph as my angel, nurturing me, visiting me in my
childhood dreams...and being with me and loving me through all my
trials and joys right from infancy, through childhood, through my teen
years, to my early adulthood...and right up to now, where I feel his
presence more keenly than ever, as we grow together, and I awaken
further. I feel like the luckiest guy in the world, to be so loved.
>I was actually talking there about how it's not a new concept, and
>what's happenned in the past when that concept was taken out of
>context; particularly by Christian syncretism.
In its basic concept, no, it's certainly not an original concept from
my mind. In fact, many people already practice a syncretic kind of
faith, in that they merge (or meld) various ideas from many religions
and/or world views. And this is what I do too. So I believe that one
aspect of my gift, is in being a vanguard to fusing all religions into
its own sort of "church" or "temple". The idea is not to water down
the lovely history of these various cultures, but to preserve them
all, in such a way as to also unite these different beliefs into a
great mandala of humanity.
Whereas conventional Christianity has managed to successfully
incorporate many pagan beliefs, along with their deities...my
alternate form of neo-Christianity comes from a pagan worldview that
manages to incorporate a Gnostic form of Christianity into its heart.
What my visions show me, is a strongly shamanistic or wiccan approach,
with a form of Christian Gnosticism is the hub, albeit a tiny, almost
pinpoiny hub. Why Christianity as the hub at all? Because the "man on
the cross" symbolizes the story of "every man", in that we are all
crucified in one way or another, merely be being self-conscious. But
the potency, the drive of this new "fusion" religion, is strongly
shamanistic and/or wiccan. One of the main tenets of
"neo-Christianity" is complete reverence for the diversity of man's
mind in its manifestations of our creator.
The kernel idea that is the main gem setting off the crown of this new
belief system, is one I have described and explained at length, in
this thread: That extraordinary suffering we have witnessed throughout
our history was more of a scam than real...that God's love would never
allow such horrors to really occur, but instead allowed angel actors
to act out the worst suffering so that we may learn lessons of
compassion while not really subjecting the innocent to such brutal
torments.
Another main tenet of neo-Christianity is that all ministers of
neo-Christianity must be 100% homosexual, whether male or female. They
may be sexually active or married; but they cannot be intentionally
celibate.
Another tenet is that heterosexuality was a temporary state of
humanity that must now come to a complete halt. For this reason, we
will set up Hetero-to-Homo Conversion centers, that all people may
finally come to desire only same-sex love and partnering. Based on the
philosophy that "There's a little homo in every homo sapiens", we will
merely find the hidden trigger in each hetero brain that will
naturally and effortlessly cause him or her to shed any last remant of
opposite-gender attraction that may exist.
As you see, our religion is not without humor. Now I am speaking for
these angels that speak through me, and sometimes I go in and out of
my trances without realizing it (as I just now did, to give you an
example).
>Sure. I do, however, commend you to stories about the burning of
>Bridget Cleary.
Any website to learn more? However, I do not for a moment see my
destiny as one of tragic outcome. I do not believe in martyrdom, only
sainthood at most.
>Whatever visions you may have had, I submit that there's more coming,
>and it'll probably blow your mind again, more than once, as the
>tapestry of spirits and their many masks show you just how much bigger
>reality is than our beliefs and comprehensions.
Certainly.
>By all means, catch your breath, before you end up cemented in your own
>words. Madness can follow when your spirit finds it has to struggle to
>escape the confines of the house your mind has built with words.
Your assumptions that you insert between your acknowledgment of my
visions are, I dare say, mistaken. Madness is neither threatening to
break down my door, nor even nipping at my heels. I am not cemented in
my own words, but developing a new way of seeing the world, that gives
glory to native religions and views from every corner of the world,
and attempts to fuse them into an incredible kaleidoscope of humanity.
>Many mistake for final revelations what is really just the opening of a
>door into a wide realm of memory, change, dream, and Dance.
I never described my visions as "final"; perhaps you confuse my
absoluteness about their accuracy with the idea of "finality".
>Not everyone can handle it, but I have an intuition that if you got away
>from the need to convert, convince, or otherwise get people to agree
>with you, it'd be a powerful Dance indeed. Words are masks of ideas,
>and ideas are masks of spirit-happennings...
I am not trying to convince or convert anyone. I am only sharing my
visions, per the clear instructions of my guardians. They say to
unabashadly present my ideas (which are really mostly *their ideas;
I'm only the channel), in Wiccan/pagan/shaman newsgroups. There will
come, eventually, several others who are destined to weave my
revelations into a body of work that others will also compose...as we
all ascend into a higher level of consciousness. In other words, while
going along for this ride, we must take notes. And I am one of the
"secretaries", so to speak.
>The words aren't the point. What they represent is only a part of the
>manifold Point. What those in turn represent, is Wow.
Then please listen up, as I have more to share, much more, for those
who have ears to hear (or eyes to read, in this case).
I am agreeable to you working with me, on pulling out more of my
visions, that others may see them too, and deliberate upon them.
Comparing them with other visions that others may have...as I am only
the first in a "plague" of visions soon to infect others. I am willing
to do this all in a public venue such as this newsgroup...or via
private or semi-private e-mail or perhaps even some other medium to
your liking.
These angels have much to tell me, to tell you, and through you, the
world. They are quite hilarious, as well as wise, lovely, and
radiantly sexy...and all very, very Gay. They tell me that my time has
arrived, where I am to begin capturing the world's ear on what they
have to say through my voice. Perhaps you will have the honor of being
the person to open these doors for me.
Excuse my hubris, but I am instructed not to hide beneath a basket of
false humility. I am to let my flame glow before all! So be it.
Wulfruna
What a pleasure to read such profound and eloquent wisdom.
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