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Matt Fuerst

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Dec 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM12/4/00
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Greetings,

I've had a great deal of experience with NS 33 on Black hardware, but I
have since sold off those units. I just picked up a Pentium 133 system
and would like to install NS 33 on it, I've seen a buddy with a P200 run
NS and it was quite a nice speed bump compared to my 25 MHz NeXTStation
and NeXTStation Color.

I grabbed a Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI card that I had laying around and
installed it along with a old 2X CD-ROM drive. The hard drive is a 6 Gig
IDE-er, but I read in my handy dandy install guide that IDE Hard Drives
are o-tay, so I was very excited.

Well, a few hours later I wasn't as excited. The diskettes boot fine, I
tell it I have my CD-ROM on the 2940 and that my hard drive is an IDE
drive. It then goes into the console-type thing (forget what it is
called, the monitor?) and says it cannot find root. I am pretty sure
that the CD-ROM is on SCSI ID 6 (yeah, I should swing into the Adaptec
BIOS and make sure.. will do that) so I tell it root is on /dev/sd6 but
it panics, and then I get nothing.

Recommendations? Did I miss anything obvious? I dont know where to go
from here so I just have the machine sitting under my desk, looking for
a little love.

A few other Intel-esque questions: whats the deal with multi-frequency
monitors? Does NS 33 support all the normal frequencies? I would like to
run at 1024 X 768 at some decent frequency.. I am sure that that won't
be a big deal.

Any help would be super great. I will report back successes

Fuersty

David Evans

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Dec 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM12/4/00
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In article <3A2BCA8E...@msu.edu>, Matt Fuerst <fuer...@msu.edu> wrote:
>
>Well, a few hours later I wasn't as excited. The diskettes boot fine, I
>tell it I have my CD-ROM on the 2940 and that my hard drive is an IDE
>drive. It then goes into the console-type thing (forget what it is
>called, the monitor?) and says it cannot find root.

Did it identify the CD-ROM drive? The Adaptec driver should dig around and
find all of its targets long before the prompt for the root device appears.

>I am pretty sure
>that the CD-ROM is on SCSI ID 6 (yeah, I should swing into the Adaptec
>BIOS and make sure.. will do that) so I tell it root is on /dev/sd6 but
>it panics, and then I get nothing.
>

The sd* numbering on Intel is the same as on black: the first is sd0, the
second sd1, and so on. So if you have only one SCSI device then it's likely
sd0.

>A few other Intel-esque questions: whats the deal with multi-frequency
>monitors? Does NS 33 support all the normal frequencies?

It all depends on what the relevant display driver supports.


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Sean

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Dec 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM12/4/00
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Set the ID on the CDROM down to ID2. Its a bug. Also if that does
not work turn off all the fast/wide stuff in the 2940 and set the
CDROM back down to 5MB. You can set it back to normal after the
install. Also get the lastest install disk from apple.


Matt Fuerst wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> I've had a great deal of experience with NS 33 on Black hardware, but I
> have since sold off those units. I just picked up a Pentium 133 system
> and would like to install NS 33 on it, I've seen a buddy with a P200 run
> NS and it was quite a nice speed bump compared to my 25 MHz NeXTStation
> and NeXTStation Color.
>
> I grabbed a Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI card that I had laying around and
> installed it along with a old 2X CD-ROM drive. The hard drive is a 6 Gig
> IDE-er, but I read in my handy dandy install guide that IDE Hard Drives
> are o-tay, so I was very excited.
>

> Well, a few hours later I wasn't as excited. The diskettes boot fine, I
> tell it I have my CD-ROM on the 2940 and that my hard drive is an IDE
> drive. It then goes into the console-type thing (forget what it is

> called, the monitor?) and says it cannot find root. I am pretty sure


> that the CD-ROM is on SCSI ID 6 (yeah, I should swing into the Adaptec
> BIOS and make sure.. will do that) so I tell it root is on /dev/sd6 but
> it panics, and then I get nothing.
>

> Recommendations? Did I miss anything obvious? I dont know where to go
> from here so I just have the machine sitting under my desk, looking for
> a little love.
>

> A few other Intel-esque questions: whats the deal with multi-frequency

Tom Zahm

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Dec 6, 2000, 3:00:00 AM12/6/00
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Mr. Feurst,

> I grabbed a Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI card that I had laying around and
> installed it along with a old 2X CD-ROM drive. The hard drive is a 6 Gig

...


> drive. It then goes into the console-type thing (forget what it is
> called, the monitor?) and says it cannot find root. I am pretty sure
> that the CD-ROM is on SCSI ID 6 (yeah, I should swing into the Adaptec
> BIOS and make sure.. will do that) so I tell it root is on /dev/sd6 but

Assuming that the HD is higher-numbered device than CD-ROM --
at a "boot>" prompt try:
sd(1)mach_kernel -v

If you don't otherwise have access to a "boot>" prompt, you can get one by
booting from the install floppy. Be sure you respond during the appx. 10-sec
intervention period. Don't worry about the initial warnings, redirecting the
process as indicated above will skip the erase-and-install phase.

(Note: the "-v" is just the "verbose flag", and therefore not essential)


If the HD's SCSI ID is lower than the CD-ROM, replace "sd(1)" with "sd(0)".

If this works, you'll want a more convenient long-term solution.
Write or post when you get that far.


Cordially,

Tom Zahm
tom....@verizon.net
(NeXTMail welcome)

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