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Stan Rothwell

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You're a sick puppy. People like you who advocate murdering people because
of their stated opposition to homosexual advocacy have no right whining when
others post comments they find "homophobic" or "insensitive".

You're just another hypocrite miltant queer...

Ezekiel J. Krahlin

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The original "Night of the Long Knives" tells of Hitler's betrayal of
his homosexual soldiers, by a surprise, overnight slaughter. Now, I
don't feel sorry for any homosexual joining the Nazi ranks...as I
wouldn't shed a tear for any Jew, Gypsy, or other person who did
likewise. (Just don't forget: the vast majority of Nazis and neo-Nazis
has always been heterosexual.)

Now, for lack of a better title, I envision the "Night Of The Long
Knives, Part 2". Only this time, a dozen or more known homophobes will
be found slaughtered in their homes or offices (or alleyways), with
"homophobe" scrawled beside them in their own fresh blood. None of the
killers will be traced, as no evidence will be found. And since the
bodies of these murdered anti-gay haters will be scattered across our
continent, including Alaska and Hawaii--even though they were all
slaughtered on the same night...police will correctly conclude that
this is a concerted effort by a wide-ranging and large-membership
group of unknown people.

Terror will grip the hearts of all homo-hating heteros everywhere.
Churches will tremble in fear, for their history of outspoken gay
hatred. And peace and non-violence shall reign on all gay folks, who
can now freely walk, holding hands and kissing, wherever and whenever
the fuck they goddam please!

And maybe this mass slaughter will occur on a night when many, many
people stroll around in public in full-masked disguise.

HAPPY HALLOWEEN and GLORIOUS SAMHAIN

to all my gay sisters and brothers, and their genuine supporters! And
may the Grinch steal Xmas from every heterocentric bigot that remains
alive after this Night of the Long Knives, Part 2.

Sincerely,

Ezekiel J. Krahlin, Chief Thracian
The Blue Rose Militia


====================================

THE ORDER OF THE BLUE ROSE

Å 1998 by Ezekiel Krahlin

petals twisted around themselves
tremble to surrender to the world
a glory to be witnessed
beneath the brilliant sun

my heart is a blue rose

the chain of command
the chain of heartbreak
the rosey chain
radiates from my heart
chakra lotus blossom
4th seal of the apocalypse
spreads over eureka valley s.f.
petals tossed into a concrete pond
ripple outward
and beyond
as i fall into the arms of the
new marines soldiers of the pink triangle
army of lovers invincible
stand before the world

and the world trembles: thracians!

same sex paramours
militias skilled in the art of love
physical beauty and stamina:
all weapons to win
the heart of the enemy
to our side
or perish
provocateurs of seduction shall throw down
the garters of all governments
and the whores of cold cash

these are the thracians
and the innermost circle:
the order of the blue rose
sudden death to you who scorn
any one of my beloved warriors
let this be commandment 11

legions of unicorns and winged horses
stand ready for battle
to serve as warrior steeds
the moment i give the signal

a blue rose in the window


---finis

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Oh, poor thing, I pressed your buttons. Considering all the anti-gay
terrorism still sanctioned by U.S. society, I think the only way we
gays will win our rights, is all out civil war *against homophobes and
assimiliationist ass-kissers like you.


--------------------------------------------------------------
Permission granted by author for anyone to distribute this
writing free of charge (including translation into any
language)...under condition that no profit is made therefrom,
and that it remain intact and complete, including title and
credit to the original author.

Ezekiel J. Krahlin
ezek...@my-deja.com http://surf.to/gaybible
--------------------------------------------------------------


NEW DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE

Å  1998 by Ezekiel J. Krahlin
(Jehovah's Queer Witness)

I hereby declare war against the United States
Government, and to all its people who support the federal
sanction against same-sex marriage... which may be a majority.
The moment government permits any state to officially and
intentionally deny a gay citizen's right to the pursuit of
happiness--as indeed marriage is a blissful goal--the door is
open to establishing all homophile women and men as second
class citizens in perpetuity.

I perceive this unconstitutional, ungodly sanction as the
first step towards eradicating all known homosexuals in our
sorry nation. The bombing of the Lesbian lounge in Atlanta is
just the beginning...unless the federal government and
mainstream Christian churches--including African-American
congregations--immediately step in and aggressively fight back
against the jihad these homophobes have declared. (I'm not
holding my breath.) Their continued silence and foot-dragging
on the noble issue of same-sex-lover rights, puts blood on
their hands as surely as if they were right-wing fanatics
themselves!

I urge all lesbians, gays, bisexuals, gender changers,
their supporters, and other so-called queer types to bear arms
and take to the streets...and push back the beast of
homophobia that now rears its ugly head in the eyes of the
majority, who prowl this gutted country like ghouls from The
Night Of The Living Dead. For all intent purposes, President
Clinton has nodded his head in approval of a nationwide witch
hunt to kill us anywhere and everywhere we are seen or known
to abide...or at best to deny us jobs, shelter, friendship,
and equal treatment. Our President's wavering on the "gays in
the military" issue, along with the signing of DOMA...places
him in direct responsibility for exacerbating the hostility
against a basically harmless, and decent, group of citizens:
gay women and men.

Likewise for our so-called "liberal" straight
friends...who are too cowardly to display a pink triangle on
their own clothing, or a T-shirt or bumper sticker
proclaiming: "Another Hetero for Lesbian & Gay Rights". Yet
they proudly wear slogans and icons promoting the rights of
African-Americans, women, children, trees, animals, and so on.
The Danes in World War II sported stars of David to conceal
Jewish folk from Nazis...but I hear of none who displayed the
pink triangle.

If you are heterosexual, and perceive yourself as a true
"progressive", then you would have no qualms in taking up this
noble banner of Homophile Liberation in the ways I have
suggested...else you, too, have blood on your hands. But if
heteros at large still refuse to see this as their fight,
too...we homosexuals can flood the straight bars, clubs, and
other hetero hangouts. Our presence, with pink triangles
emblazoned on our shirts and jackets, will turn these straight
clubs into targets of the Army of God and their ilk. Then, of
course, we'll have a lot more allies in the resistance--albeit
unwilling.

Be it known that I am proudly homosexual, that I am a
Christian who respects all other beliefs as equal, that I
presently go by the name Ezekiel Krahlin (formerly Gene
Catalano). Be it also known that I propose the new label
"Thracian" over "gay male," to symbolize the new-found
empowerment of the homophile community in this century's
closing decade. The word "gay" perpetuates a stereotype of
ourselves as flighty, emotional, and frivolous...not to be
taken seriously, as a citizen, as a human being, or as
anything else! (Surely, women have a similar complaint
against male chauvanists.)

"Lesbian" is a beautiful term for the homosexual female;
as its name comes from a Greek Island with a rich, classical
history. The region of Thrace also has a great history, and
likewise plays an honored role in Hellenic culture...hence I
coin the term "Thracian" for those who are commonly thought of
as "gay male". Ancient Greeks first called their northern
neighbors "Thracians," and later, "Macedonians"...the people
from whom arose Alexander The Great. "Hellenic" can be the
general term for both homophile women and men, who are sick of
the belittling and ineffectual descriptor, "gay". This caps a
nice balance on the other two Greek words, to form an elegant
triad: Hellenic, Lesbian, Thracian. It also does away with
the chauvanistic stance of using "Gay" to represent both male
and female members, as well as males only. (Credit for the
idea of "Hellenic" to replace "Gay" goes to Fireweaver, an
Internet friend.)

Heterosexism, chauvinism, misogyny, mysandry, homophobia,
pedophilia, racism, and bestiality are all blasphemies in God's
eyes, and in mine, and in the eyes of all good people. Under this
inspiration, I declare Northern California a safe haven, and
demand protection by the United Nations Global Peacekeepers. I
also call for the secession of this region, and its establishment as a

government solely for and by Hellenes...where all beliefs are to be
equally respected. Let this new nation be named "Athenia," to
honor woman's suffrage as well as symbolize wisdom and valor. As
a body politik, we are as the victorious David against Goliath: the
giant of homophobia shall be toppled and slain in our time.

Let it also be known that not every gay person is a
friend. Like any group of human beings, they have their ranks
of evil forces. True hearts are few and far between...love
and be constant to such friends--if indeed you have even
one--for you are well blessed. For wherever there are two
kindred hearts, there Your Angel will be also, in spirit. Do
not judge any person by any category (such as gay or hetero,
Jew or Christian, ugly or handsome, poor or rich, white or
black, etc.) But do judge her by what comes from the heart, as
expressed in words and deeds.

Civilization (for what it's worth) is about to go
berserk; the capitalist world as we know it is doomed. I
trust that those whom I can reach through this letter, already
are taking action. If you are wicked (homophobic), it is not
yet too late to change. I stand by you in prayer, and hope
you will join the valorous. For until the last enemy is fallen, it
is my duty to fight for every lost soul until the final moment.
Yes, I pray most ardently for the lost, not for the risen.

In closing, I humbly attempt to give solace to my
Hellenic sisters and brothers, with this quote from Psalm 35
(1-8):

Plead my cause, O Lord, with those who strive with me;
Fight against those who fight against me.
Take hold of shield and buckler,
And stand up for my help.

Also draw out the spear,
And stop those who pursue me.
Say to my soul,
"I am your salvation."

Let those be put to shame and brought to dishonor
Who seek after my life;
Let those be turned back and brought to confusion
Who plot my hurt.
Let them be like chaff before the wind,
And let the angel of the Lord pursue them.

For without cause they have hidden their net for me in
a pit,
Which they have dug without cause for my life.
Let destruction come upon him unexpectedly,
And let his net that he has hidden catch himself;
Into that very destruction let him fall.

Wm James

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On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 05:06:41 GMT, ezek...@my-deja.com (Ezekiel J.
Krahlin) wrote:

>Now, for lack of a better title, I envision the "Night Of The Long
>Knives, Part 2". Only this time, a dozen or more known homophobes will
>be found slaughtered in their homes or offices (or alleyways), with
>"homophobe" scrawled beside them in their own fresh blood.

Level3.net may not like you using their San Francisco dialup to make
threats in usenet.

William R. James


Wm James

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On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 07:02:17 GMT, ezek...@my-deja.com (Ezekiel J.
Krahlin) wrote:

>On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 23:11:11 -0400, "Stan Rothwell"
><roth...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>>You're a sick puppy. People like you who advocate murdering people because
>>of their stated opposition to homosexual advocacy have no right whining when
>>others post comments they find "homophobic" or "insensitive".
>>
>>You're just another hypocrite miltant queer...
>
>Oh, poor thing, I pressed your buttons. Considering all the anti-gay
>terrorism still sanctioned by U.S. society, I think the only way we
>gays will win our rights, is all out civil war *against homophobes and
>assimiliationist ass-kissers like you.


Are you declaring war against the USA? If so please clarify it.
Don't beat around the bush.

William R. James


Stan Rothwell

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"Ezekiel J. Krahlin" <ezek...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 23:11:11 -0400, "Stan Rothwell"
> <roth...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> >You're a sick puppy. People like you who advocate murdering people
because
> >of their stated opposition to homosexual advocacy have no right whining
when
> >others post comments they find "homophobic" or "insensitive".
> >
> >You're just another hypocrite miltant queer...
>
> Oh, poor thing, I pressed your buttons. Considering all the anti-gay
> terrorism still sanctioned by U.S. society, I think the only way we
> gays will win our rights, is all out civil war *against homophobes and
> assimiliationist ass-kissers like you.

Ooh, I've graduated to an "assmiliationist ass-kisser".
How did THAT happen?

Don't you just love Usenet?
Anyone can post, even the hopelessly irrational...

Arthur Boff

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Ezekiel J. Krahlin <ezek...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> Terror will grip the hearts of all homo-hating heteros everywhere.
> Churches will tremble in fear, for their history of outspoken gay
> hatred. And peace and non-violence shall reign on all gay folks, who
> can now freely walk, holding hands and kissing, wherever and whenever
> the fuck they goddam please!

Define "homo-hating hetero". Will you just kill people who have gone on the
record as hating homosexuals? Will you kill people you think are probably
homophobes? Will you kill a guy who happens to dislike a homosexual person
for reasons totally unconnected with the homosexual's sexuality?

And do you know what the result of such a crazed, lunatic stunt such as the
mass murder you propose would be? An outbreak of homophobia. People who
previously didn't give a flying blue babyshit about homosexuality will start
to get awful worried. You'll hurt yourself more than anyone else.

Arthur

PS: To make my position clear: I am either heterosexual or a bisexual who
doesn't like men. ;-) I care not what people do to each other so long as
it's consenting and doesn't harm people around them. (So kissing in public:
good. Getting cheap thrills out of car crashes like in a certain recent
Cronenburg movie: bad.)

I tend to find that people who hate homosexuality are only barely tolerant
of heterosexuality.

Ezekiel J. Krahlin

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On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 06:20:14 -0500, Wm James
<wrj...@kudzucountry.com> wrote:

>Are you declaring war against the USA? If so please clarify it.
>Don't beat around the bush.

I couldn't have made it any clearer in my New Declaration of
Independence. But being the pinhead you are, you don't even know how
to read properly.

Thus is the price one pays for one's gay-hatred: one get's stupider,
stupider, and stupider.

Ezekiel J. Krahlin

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On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 06:18:31 -0500, Wm James
<wrj...@kudzucountry.com> wrote:

>Level3.net may not like you using their San Francisco dialup to make
>threats in usenet.

That's not a threat, it's a vision. Since Level3.net continuously
allows threats against gays to get through (such as your own), they
don't have a legal leg to stand on.

Ezekiel J. Krahlin

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On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:50:21 +0100, "Arthur Boff"
<arthu...@merton.ox.ac.uk> wrote:

>Define "homo-hating hetero".

Those who are already on record for virulently preaching hatred,
torture, and/or death of gay people. This includes those who do so
here on Usenet. What a handy tool!

>And do you know what the result of such a crazed, lunatic stunt such as the
>mass murder you propose would be? An outbreak of homophobia. People who
>previously didn't give a flying blue babyshit about homosexuality will start
>to get awful worried. You'll hurt yourself more than anyone else.

Nonsense. People don't become homophobic overnight. This will reveal
to what extent the majority of U.S. citizens are gay hateful. And as a
result of this uprising, a pogrom against gays will commence. Then
many other western democracies--along with international organizations
like Amnesty International and Peace Corps--will declare the U.S.
gov't an enemy of a large portion of its citizens (us gays).

As the leader ("Chief Thracian") of the Blue Rose Militia (world's
first gay militia) I will present a list of demands to the new
president (Bush), and if all our demands aren't met within 48 hours,
we will blow up the Statue of Liberty, The Washington Monument, and
The Capitol Building. If this still doesn't convince them, we'll then
blow up a small city in the Bible Belt. In each case, we'll give all
people in these areas 24 hours to evacuate. The Bible Belt city will
be one no larger than 80,000 population.

One of the demands I'll present is that the U.S. hand over northern
California, so that we may create the world's first gay nation:
Athenia.

But remember: I am only sharing a *vision, a dream, I've recently had,
and figured: what fun to post it on Usenet!

>I tend to find that people who hate homosexuality are only barely tolerant
>of heterosexuality.

That's a cop-out, if I've ever heard one. An easy way to excuse
yourself from speaking out against homophobic slurs and attacks.


P.S.: So this vision I had, inspired me to write the following:


--------------------------------------------------------------
Permission granted by author for anyone to distribute this
writing free of charge (including translation into any
language)...under condition that no profit is made therefrom,
and that it remain intact and complete, including title and
credit to the original author.

Ezekiel J. Krahlin
ezek...@my-deja.com http://surf.to/gaybible
--------------------------------------------------------------


Alert! U.S. Gays in Imminent Danger of Holocaust - Sep. 20, '00
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
EMERGENCY WARNING! ALL GOOD GAY FOLKS STAND UP AND LISTEN!

(c) 2000 by Ezekiel J. Krahlin
(Jehovah's Queer Witness)

(Note: I use the new words "Hellene" and "Thracian" throughout
this document, to indicate "Lesbian/Gay Community", and "Gay
Men", respectively. We'll keep the word "lesbian" because it's
been a great word all along. Thanks to FireWeaver for
conjuring up "Hellene" for our family, after I proposed
"Thracian" to replace "gay man".)

There is a strong likelihood that "Dubya" will be our next
president. Why? Because those who hate Hellenes more than
Hitler, who would normally vote Democrat, will instead make a
unanimous clamor for George W. Bush.

This is no silly game here, folks. I am *not deluded. He who
speaks through me is truly Jesus of Nazareth. It is he who
directs my hands as they move across the keyboard. Our Good
Lord (who is true-blue 100% thracian) wants me to tell our
Family that we only have a 2-month window of opportunity, in
which to escape the clutches of Bush's proclamation that all
known and suspected homosexuals must be removed from the
spaces in which "decent hetero folk" dwell.

Say what? That's everywhere, dudes & dudettes! Soon, the "cc"
in your e-mail may be a new postal code to separate
"concentration camp" mail from the larger society. So what to
do? What to do?

Come to Northern California, and I will protect all my
Hellenic sisters and brothers within these borders: to the
southern boundary of Santa Cruz County (and eastward on the
same lattitude), bounded by the Pacific Ocean on the west (duh),
north boundary abutting Oregon (as it has been for quite some
time), and the eastern boundary shall end either at the border
of Nevada, or considerably much further east, as the situation
may deem.

San Francisco & Berkeley are already prepared to receive you.
You can even come penniless, naked, and with only one left
hand :b , and you'd still be welcome into our compassionate
embrace. Much of the Berkeley homeless are professionally trained
(by Yours Truly) as "urban priests and shamans" to ease your
transition to our proud, new nation of ATHENIA. Right now,
there is a terrible housing shortage due to the present
streaming-in of Hellenic beauties that began just five days
ago, combined with the intense pressures of the dot-com yuppie
invasion. So many of you will go homeless for quite some time,
before we can set up decent housing after The War.

Not to worry though! My street shamans are the "creme de la
creme" as they say in our outpost in Gay Paree. Though
homeless, you are guaranteed to have the best time in your
entire existence, ever! Don't ask us how we do it, 'cause
that'll ruin some of the surprises we have in store for you.

-----------------------------

WELCOME TO ATHENIA
(WORLD'S FIRST GAY NATION)

by Ezekiel Joseph Krahlin


Christians call me Jesus,
Muslims call me Allah,
Hindus call me Krishna,
From here to Walla-Walla.

Lakota call me "Spirit",
Nubians call me "Noob".
And if you cannot bear this,
Bend over for some lube.

My boyfriend calls me "asshole"
When others call him "God".
Don't know why they say so,
But it strikes me kinda odd.

My Father he does love me
With a passion undeserved.
For he came from up above me,
That my body may be served.

I speak in riddles sometimes,
Or in parables and verse.
And it really is sublime
To listen to Mother Earth.

She says: Children of the True Light
Welcome to our shores.
Cleanse yourselves of all your tears,
and any open sores.

Give yourselves a shower,
A shit and then a shave.
Then we give you the uniform
And you become our slave


Of love.


...end of poem

Wm James

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On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:17:31 GMT, ezek...@my-deja.com (Ezekiel J.
Krahlin) wrote:

>On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 06:20:14 -0500, Wm James
><wrj...@kudzucountry.com> wrote:
>
>>Are you declaring war against the USA? If so please clarify it.
>>Don't beat around the bush.
>
>I couldn't have made it any clearer in my New Declaration of
>Independence. But being the pinhead you are, you don't even know how
>to read properly.
>
>Thus is the price one pays for one's gay-hatred: one get's stupider,
>stupider, and stupider.


I wouldn't be so stupid as to singlehandedly (we know where your other
had is) declare war on a nuclear power. :)

William R. James


Wm James

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On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:17:33 GMT, ezek...@my-deja.com (Ezekiel J.
Krahlin) wrote:

>On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 06:18:31 -0500, Wm James
><wrj...@kudzucountry.com> wrote:
>
>>Level3.net may not like you using their San Francisco dialup to make
>>threats in usenet.
>
>That's not a threat, it's a vision. Since Level3.net continuously
>allows threats against gays to get through (such as your own), they
>don't have a legal leg to stand on.

Oh? What and who have I threatened?

William R. James


Ezekiel J. Krahlin

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On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 21:07:04 -0500, Wm James
<wrj...@kudzucountry.com> wrote:

>I wouldn't be so stupid as to singlehandedly (we know where your other
>had is) declare war on a nuclear power. :)

Oh, but the hacker contingent of the Blue Rose Militia already has
complete command over the entire U.S. military's databases. In
essence, we've already won The War...what comes next is only
fulfilling our fantasies. We've won, it's over...we gays own this
world now. And we will soon make all proper adjustments, over the
holiday season. We are the Grinch that will steal hetero-Christmas
from you.

Heterosexuality will soon be forbidden. No more hetercentered
entertainment, including music. For we also have total control of the
media. We are only biding our time a little longer...fine-tuning, if
you will.

Arthur Boff

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> Heterosexuality will soon be forbidden. No more hetercentered
> entertainment, including music. For we also have total control of the
> media. We are only biding our time a little longer...fine-tuning, if
> you will.

Aaaaaah, I see the light now.

You're a very cunning satirist who's poking fun at both sides of the
argument.

Arthur Boff

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Ezekiel J. Krahlin <ezek...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:50:21 +0100, "Arthur Boff"
> <arthu...@merton.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> >Define "homo-hating hetero".
>
> Those who are already on record for virulently preaching hatred,
> torture, and/or death of gay people. This includes those who do so
> here on Usenet. What a handy tool!

So, these people threatening to kill other people is obviously a bad thing.
So why'd you have to go and threaten them back?

> >And do you know what the result of such a crazed, lunatic stunt such as
the
> >mass murder you propose would be? An outbreak of homophobia. People who
> >previously didn't give a flying blue babyshit about homosexuality will
start
> >to get awful worried. You'll hurt yourself more than anyone else.
>
> Nonsense. People don't become homophobic overnight. This will reveal
> to what extent the majority of U.S. citizens are gay hateful. And as a
> result of this uprising, a pogrom against gays will commence. Then
> many other western democracies--along with international organizations
> like Amnesty International and Peace Corps--will declare the U.S.
> gov't an enemy of a large portion of its citizens (us gays).

And how can you be so sure that these other western democracies won't be
thrown into a spasm of homophobia too?

> As the leader ("Chief Thracian") of the Blue Rose Militia (world's
> first gay militia) I will present a list of demands to the new
> president (Bush),

Wow! Zeke's a psychic. Tell me next week's lottery numbers while you're at
it.

> and if all our demands aren't met within 48 hours,
> we will blow up the Statue of Liberty, The Washington Monument, and
> The Capitol Building.

Exactly how many members did you say your little lunatic fringe group have?
And haven't you kinda revealed all your plans by posting them to Usenet?

> If this still doesn't convince them, we'll then
> blow up a small city in the Bible Belt. In each case, we'll give all
> people in these areas 24 hours to evacuate. The Bible Belt city will
> be one no larger than 80,000 population.

With what? Firecrackers? You really need nukes for that sort of thing.

I think you're joking.

> One of the demands I'll present is that the U.S. hand over northern
> California, so that we may create the world's first gay nation:
> Athenia.

Why the hell would you need so much space? The only people who would want to
live in such a country would be fanatics such as yourself.

> But remember: I am only sharing a *vision, a dream, I've recently had,
> and figured: what fun to post it on Usenet!

What you mean is, you're a first-class satirist who thought he'd pull a few
people's legs. Well done.

> >I tend to find that people who hate homosexuality are only barely
tolerant
> >of heterosexuality.
>
> That's a cop-out, if I've ever heard one. An easy way to excuse
> yourself from speaking out against homophobic slurs and attacks.

???

How is it a cop-out? I'm calling them a bunch of bigots whose sex lives have
been shrivelled by their puritanical attitudes. What more do you want?

Underground Panther

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Bitter aren't you? Stan get help your drowing in cynical waste,your own.
Do you love emotionally taunting hurting people? You like being a bully
online wghhere you can't face the results of what you say with getting
your teeth kickered in? Poor little bully boy.You seem so devoid of
feelings yourself,because you are lost in rational absolutes of your own
dogmatic materialist faith. get a life take an enema and love a
little.gawd.

Stan Rothwell wrote:
>
> "Ezekiel J. Krahlin" <ezek...@my-deja.com> wrote in message

> news:39f3e217...@news.cis.dfn.de...


> > On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 23:11:11 -0400, "Stan Rothwell"
> > <roth...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> > >You're a sick puppy. People like you who advocate murdering people
> because
> > >of their stated opposition to homosexual advocacy have no right whining
> when
> > >others post comments they find "homophobic" or "insensitive".
> > >
> > >You're just another hypocrite miltant queer...
> >
> > Oh, poor thing, I pressed your buttons. Considering all the anti-gay
> > terrorism still sanctioned by U.S. society, I think the only way we
> > gays will win our rights, is all out civil war *against homophobes and
> > assimiliationist ass-kissers like you.
>

Wm James

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On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 04:00:22 GMT, ezek...@my-deja.com (Ezekiel J.
Krahlin) wrote:

>On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 21:07:04 -0500, Wm James
><wrj...@kudzucountry.com> wrote:
>
>>I wouldn't be so stupid as to singlehandedly (we know where your other
>>had is) declare war on a nuclear power. :)
>
>Oh, but the hacker contingent of the Blue Rose Militia already has
>complete command over the entire U.S. military's databases. In
>essence, we've already won The War...what comes next is only
>fulfilling our fantasies. We've won, it's over...we gays own this
>world now. And we will soon make all proper adjustments, over the
>holiday season. We are the Grinch that will steal hetero-Christmas
>from you.

Steal christmas from an atheist? You really are dense, aren't you? :)

>Heterosexuality will soon be forbidden. No more hetercentered
>entertainment, including music. For we also have total control of the
>media. We are only biding our time a little longer...fine-tuning, if
>you will.

ROTFLMAO!

William R. James


Stan Rothwell

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"Underground Panther" <fur...@erols.com> wrote in message
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> Bitter aren't you? Stan get help your drowing in cynical waste,your own.
> Do you love emotionally taunting hurting people? You like being a bully
> online wghhere you can't face the results of what you say with getting
> your teeth kickered in? Poor little bully boy.You seem so devoid of
> feelings yourself,because you are lost in rational absolutes of your own
> dogmatic materialist faith. get a life take an enema and love a
> little.gawd.

Excuse me, you irrational foaming leftist fool, but I
wasn't the one advocating KILLING PEOPLE
because of their sexual preference!!! Zecky the Nutcase
WAS. Now, are you trying to tell me that he gets a
"pass" merely on the account that he is a disturbed
homosexual? Funny how the militant types bluster
about and try to intimidate others, yet we're supposed
to be so pussywhipped that we can't respond. In your
morally confused Lefty Liberal mind, it's perfectly OK
for Zecky to talk about killing people because he doesn't
like them, but a few choice remarks turn these same
homicidal-wannebes into big simpering babies:

"OOOHHH!!! HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT?
WE'RE VICTIMS, AND YOU'RE BEING
MEAN TO US. WAA-AHHHHH!!! <(:O'''(

Sorry, Underwear Pantser, but my sympathy for
nutcases threatening others with violence went into
negative values a LONG time ago!!! If you got a
problem with my response, go back to your silly
"sensitivity training" seminars, where the moderator
makes sure you 'feel good' as opposed to being
subjected to something that might hurt your feelings,
or even worse, force you to think for a change... :O(

> Stan Rothwell wrote:
> >
> > "Ezekiel J. Krahlin" <ezek...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> > news:39f3e217...@news.cis.dfn.de...

> > > On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 23:11:11 -0400, "Stan Rothwell"
> > > <roth...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >You're a sick puppy. People like you who advocate murdering people
> > because
> > > >of their stated opposition to homosexual advocacy have no right
whining
> > when
> > > >others post comments they find "homophobic" or "insensitive".
> > > >
> > > >You're just another hypocrite miltant queer...
> > >
> > > Oh, poor thing, I pressed your buttons. Considering all the anti-gay
> > > terrorism still sanctioned by U.S. society, I think the only way we
> > > gays will win our rights, is all out civil war *against homophobes and
> > > assimiliationist ass-kissers like you.
> >

Fred Cherry

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In Message-ID: <39f3c639...@news.cis.dfn.de>
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.activism.peacefire,alt.conspiracy,
alt.politics.radical-left
Subject: Night of the Long Knives, Part 2
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 05:06:41 GMT

ezek...@my-deja.com (Ezekiel J. (Zeke the Freak) Krahlin) wrote:


> The original "Night of the Long Knives" tells of Hitler's betrayal of
> his homosexual soldiers, by a surprise, overnight slaughter. Now, I
> don't feel sorry for any homosexual joining the Nazi ranks...as I
> wouldn't shed a tear for any Jew, Gypsy, or other person who did
> likewise. (Just don't forget: the vast majority of Nazis and neo-Nazis
> has always been heterosexual.)

As usual, Zeke, you lie. The S.A. was the organization whose leadership was
wiped out in the Night of the Long Knives. This was the organization that
put Hitler into power and this was the organization that was overrun with
homosexuals.

Then there is this bit about the "gay holocaust", and the pink triangles
that I keep seeing. That is truly the type of "big lie" for which Goebbels
was famous. Have you forgotten that it was homosexuals who put Hitler into
power in the first place? Did you ever hear of Ernest Roehm? Ernest Roehm
was a homosexual (William L. Shirer, THE RISE AND FALL OF THE THIRD REICH,
Fawcett Crest Paperback Edition, page 64). He was such a close friend of
Hitler that he was the only man whom Hitler addressed by the familiar
personal pronoun *du* (Shirer, op. cit. page 288). He was the leader of the
Nazi Stormtroopers (Shirer, op. cit. page 207). He was one of the six men
who constituted the inner circle of the Nazi Party in 1931 (Shirer, op.
cit. page 206). Roehm, of course, was only one of many Nazi leaders who
were homosexual. The S.A., also known as the Stormtroopers, was overrun
with them. As Shirer has written: "Many of its top leaders beginning with
its chief, Roehm, were notorious homosexual perverts. Lieutenant Edmund
Heines, who led the Munich S.A., was not only a homosexual but a convicted
murderer. These two, and dozens of others, quarreled and feuded as only men
of unnatural sexual inclinations, with their peculiar jealousies can"
(Shirer, op. cit. page 172). Shirer also wrote: "Hitler had known all
along, from the earliest days of the party, that a large number of his
closest and most important followers were sexual perverts [i.e.
homosexuals] and convicted murderers. It was common talk, for instance,
that Heines used to send S,.A, men scurrying all over Germany to find him
suitable male lovers. There things Hitler had not only tolerated but
defended; more than once he had warned his party comrades against being to
squeamish about a man's personal morals if he were a fanatical fighter for
the movement" (Shirer, op. cit. page 312).

It is true that Hitler killed Roehm and many other leaders of the S.A.
during "the night of the long knives", at the end of June '34. Shirer says
that this was done to obtain the support of the officer corps of the German
Army. Joachim C. Fest, in his book HITLER, says that this was done as a
pre-emptive strike against Roehm, because Hitler could see that it was
inevitable that Roehm would come to open rebellion against Hitler. In any
event, it is clear that homosexuals did MORE than their share to put Hitler
into power. Now you, and other homosexuals, come forward and cry for
sympathy, claiming that homosexuals were Hitler's victims. That what I call
*chutzpah*!! [translation, nerve, like a person killing his or her parents
and asking for sympathy on the grounds that he or she is an orphan].

> Now, for lack of a better title, I envision the "Night Of The Long
> Knives, Part 2". Only this time, a dozen or more known homophobes will
> be found slaughtered in their homes or offices (or alleyways), with
> "homophobe" scrawled beside them in their own fresh blood. None of the
> killers will be traced, as no evidence will be found. And since the
> bodies of these murdered anti-gay haters will be scattered across our
> continent, including Alaska and Hawaii--even though they were all
> slaughtered on the same night...police will correctly conclude that
> this is a concerted effort by a wide-ranging and large-membership
> group of unknown people.
>
> Terror will grip the hearts of all homo-hating heteros everywhere.
> Churches will tremble in fear, for their history of outspoken gay
> hatred. And peace and non-violence shall reign on all gay folks, who
> can now freely walk, holding hands and kissing, wherever and whenever
> the fuck they goddam please!
>
> And maybe this mass slaughter will occur on a night when many, many
> people stroll around in public in full-masked disguise.
>
> HAPPY HALLOWEEN and GLORIOUS SAMHAIN
>
> to all my gay sisters and brothers, and their genuine supporters! And
> may the Grinch steal Xmas from every heterocentric bigot that remains
> alive after this Night of the Long Knives, Part 2.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Ezekiel J. Krahlin, Chief Thracian
> The Blue Rose Militia

Listen, faggot.

This is about the third time you have threatened me. And you're not the
only faggot who has threatened me. A while back some faggots started a
thread about me titled: "Murder Fred Cherry." You faggots can't stand the
fact that I flame NAMBLA, your favorite organization.


jo...@world.std.com (Fred Cherry)

Grand Duke of Yugoslobia
Duke of Vulgaria
Grand Muff-Diver of Jerusalem
& Elector of Homophobia


Stan Rothwell

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"Wm James" <wrj...@kudzucountry.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:17:33 GMT, ezek...@my-deja.com (Ezekiel J.
> Krahlin) wrote:

>
> >On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 06:18:31 -0500, Wm James
> ><wrj...@kudzucountry.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Level3.net may not like you using their San Francisco dialup to make
> >>threats in usenet.
> >
> >That's not a threat, it's a vision. Since Level3.net continuously
> >allows threats against gays to get through (such as your own), they
> >don't have a legal leg to stand on.
>
> Oh? What and who have I threatened?

Well, you threatened his ideological ranting by trying to
use some common sense. Zecky is another Lefty Liberal
wackster who wants it both ways: he wants to be free to
advocate harm against others, yet run for protection when
somebody says something to wet his panties. In away, he
reminds me of my brother when I was a youngster. My
brother liked to use physical force to get his way, I didn't.
He would often hit me because he knew I wouldn't return
the swing.. at least the first or second time. However,
by about the third or fourth time, I would get fed up and
turn around and pop him in the face. All of a sudden, the
tears would well up, and he would run to Mom and Dad,
claiming that "Stan beat me up for no reason". I would
equate Zecky with my brother, except I believe my brother
finally grew out of it...


Stan Rothwell

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That does it. You're history around here...

"Ezekiel J. Krahlin" <ezek...@my-deja.com> wrote in message

news:39f4986...@news.cis.dfn.de...

Wm James

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On Wed, 25 Oct 2000 00:04:17 -0400, "Stan Rothwell"
<roth...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>That does it. You're history around here...
>
>"Ezekiel J. Krahlin" <ezek...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
>news:39f4986...@news.cis.dfn.de...
>>

>> As the leader ("Chief Thracian") of the Blue Rose Militia (world's
>> first gay militia) I will present a list of demands to the new
>> president (Bush), and if all our demands aren't met within 48 hours,
>> we will blow up the Statue of Liberty, The Washington Monument, and
>> The Capitol Building. If this still doesn't convince them, we'll then
>> blow up a small city in the Bible Belt. In each case, we'll give all
>> people in these areas 24 hours to evacuate. The Bible Belt city will
>> be one no larger than 80,000 population.

I suspect some people in dark suits and no sense of humor are going to
pay him a visit real soon.

William R. James


Wm James

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Sound accurate. But Zeke is entertaining. I'll give him that.

William R. James


M(ike)GK

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> > As the leader ("Chief Thracian") of the Blue Rose Militia (world's
> > first gay militia) I will present a list of demands to the new
> > president (Bush), and if all our demands aren't met within 48 hours,
> > we will blow up the Statue of Liberty, The Washington Monument, and
> > The Capitol Building. If this still doesn't convince them, we'll then
> > blow up a small city in the Bible Belt. In each case, we'll give all
> > people in these areas 24 hours to evacuate. The Bible Belt city will
> > be one no larger than 80,000 population.

Congratulations, fucko. You just set off a lot of buzzers at the Puzzle
Palace. Expect the Secret Service to get a copy, as they are charged
with protecting Presidential candidates as well. And, of course, the FBI
and ATF.

Fort Meade must be a great place to work ;)

Even jesting about shit like this isn't funny. Terrorists are nothing
more than narrow-minded morons willing to kill innocent people to
'further the Cause', often times claiming to be helping 'free the People
from the oppresive <whatever>', but, in using fear as a weapon, are
alienating the 'People'. In essence, the statement "I'm too much of a
weakling and coward to try to change things any other way, so I'll kill
people to try to force the <insert "oppresive group" name here> to
change to the <whatever> I want" sums up terrorists.

Say "Hi!" to the Feds for me.

You moron.

Andrew Carol

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In article <39f4986...@news.cis.dfn.de>, Ezekiel J. Krahlin
<ezek...@my-deja.com> wrote:

> If this still doesn't convince them, we'll then
> blow up a small city in the Bible Belt.

So I suppose people can be damned for where they happen to live. Sins
of the father?

Oh well....

Ezekiel J. Krahlin

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On Wed, 25 Oct 2000 16:58:14 -0500, "M(ike)GK" <mgk...@axom.com>
wrote:

>Congratulations, fucko. You just set off a lot of buzzers at the Puzzle
>Palace. Expect the Secret Service to get a copy, as they are charged
>with protecting Presidential candidates as well. And, of course, the FBI
>and ATF.

Good, they need to earn their way in life, just like everyone else.

>Even jesting about shit like this isn't funny. Terrorists are nothing
>more than narrow-minded morons willing to kill innocent people to
>'further the Cause', often times claiming to be helping 'free the People
>from the oppresive <whatever>',

I'm not a terrorist, I am a visionary. The incredible terrorism
against gays that is sanctioned by Amerika, and has become an integral
weft of our society's fabric...is something that needs to blasted to
smithereens.

If you think even "jesting" about terrorism isn't funny, then I trust
you have been actively confronting rampant homophobia for many years
now, eh? Or do you think terrorizing gays is "okay", because it's as
integral a part of Amerika as Mom, apple pie, and the Amerikan flag?

>Say "Hi!" to the Feds for me.

Hey, Feds! Seeing as many of them now work for me, thanks to very
successful infiltration, I'll be waited on hand and foot.

>You moron.

Hey, you're the moron. You jump up and down like a crazed lunatic when
I even suggest that homophobes have a terrible karma to pay, and the
payment is due. Yet I've never heard of you being anywhere near as
upset about all the very *real terrorism going on 24/7 against gay men
and women across the country.

You hypocrite.

Wm James

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Sure Zeke. You are so powerful yet you can't even keep an ISP
connection. :)

So how do you like splitrock.net? If you start making threats again,
they will undoubtably hear about it, and it's against the TOS too.

BTW, I never report you. I enjoy your ranting too much. :)

William R. James


Ezekiel J. Krahlin

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On Sat, 04 Nov 2000 09:03:54 -0600, Wm James
<wrj...@kudzucountry.com> wrote:

>So how do you like splitrock.net?

I couldn't care less, which service I use.

>If you start making threats again, they will undoubtably hear about it,
>and it's against the TOS too.

If they ban me because of complaints, they'd be hypocrites. With all
the anti-gay threats that passes for "dialogue" that goes on in many,
many newsgroups, one would think they wouldn't mind any gay person
dishing it back.

Besides, I'm not threatening anyone. I am warning people that the Big
Payback is due.

>BTW, I never report you. I enjoy your ranting too much. :)

I wouldn't care. When I first got on the 'net some years back, I
quickly became acquainted with narrow-minded bigots, who especially
hate outspoken gays, and do everything they can to shut us out. Since
that time, I have taught myself well, in keeping on the Internet
through a variety of channels. Many times in the last few years,
people have tried to shut me out, but failed. I didn't even miss a
beat.

Ezekiel J. Krahlin

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On Wed, 25 Oct 2000 01:06:16 GMT, jo...@world.std.com (Fred Cherry)
wrote:

>Then there is this bit about the "gay holocaust", and the pink triangles
>that I keep seeing. That is truly the type of "big lie" for which Goebbels
>was famous. Have you forgotten that it was homosexuals who put Hitler into
>power in the first place?

No one believes anything you say any more, Mr. Cherry. Your biggest
error in this message is your use of "many" in claiming that represent
the gay population among Hitler's party. You only listed a handful of
homosexual Nazis. The fact is: the Nazis were overrun by heteros, not
homos...and this has always been true, including our present
neo-Nazis.

You think that by mentioning only a couple homosexuals, then getting
all excited about them, will therefore convince people that "two"
means "many" or even "the majority". Just how stupid do you think
people are? Very few are actually as stupid as you.

Cherry flambe, anyone? :D

Wm James

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On Sat, 04 Nov 2000 20:38:09 GMT, ezek...@my-deja.com (Ezekiel J.
Krahlin) wrote:

>On Sat, 04 Nov 2000 09:03:54 -0600, Wm James
><wrj...@kudzucountry.com> wrote:
>
>>So how do you like splitrock.net?
>
>I couldn't care less, which service I use.

They do. :)

>>If you start making threats again, they will undoubtably hear about it,
>>and it's against the TOS too.
>
>If they ban me because of complaints, they'd be hypocrites. With all
>the anti-gay threats that passes for "dialogue" that goes on in many,
>many newsgroups, one would think they wouldn't mind any gay person
>dishing it back.

It's not the complaints, it's the reason for the complaints. You
clearly violate their TOS. Who has threatened you?

>Besides, I'm not threatening anyone. I am warning people that the Big
>Payback is due.

Saying that is quite different from saying you intend to carry it out.

>>BTW, I never report you. I enjoy your ranting too much. :)
>
>I wouldn't care. When I first got on the 'net some years back, I
>quickly became acquainted with narrow-minded bigots, who especially
>hate outspoken gays, and do everything they can to shut us out. Since
>that time, I have taught myself well, in keeping on the Internet
>through a variety of channels. Many times in the last few years,
>people have tried to shut me out, but failed. I didn't even miss a
>beat.

Yes you do. Every time you get booted you are gone for a while. Some
services are better than others and if you keep it up you will be left
with the dregs.

BTW, there are ways to protect your connection but I will not be the
one to explain it to you. It would be better for everyone (including
you) if you just showed a little constraint. ISPs are virtually all
very forgiving when it comes to usenet useage. Some threads veer off
topic or people use bad language, or even a bet excessive cross
posting. As long as it falls into the regular customs of the groups
involved few are going to complain anyway. You have to really step
over the line to get nuked. You cross that line frequently. In
alt.activism that's not easy.

William R. James


Ezekiel J. Krahlin

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On Sat, 04 Nov 2000 20:32:09 -0600, Wm James
<wrj...@kudzucountry.com> wrote:

>BTW, there are ways to protect your connection but I will not be the
>one to explain it to you.

I don't need your help, asshole. I have plenty of hackers for
friends...here in my home city, as well as all over the world.

>It would be better for everyone (including
>you) if you just showed a little constraint.

I am discussing issue that go way beyond "constraint". Gays are being
bashed and slaughtered in this country, with society's tacit
permission. I am waking up more and more gays (and their supporters)
to the fact we've *been at war for at least several years now...and we
better start defending ourselves, and fighting back.

>ISPs are virtually all
>very forgiving when it comes to usenet useage.

<snip>


>You have to really step over the line to get nuked.

Would that were true, but when it comes to gay people, no sir, it
ain't true at all. Many ISP's, as well as Internet services in
general, will shut you out if *anyone "complains" about you, using the
word "gay" or "homosexual" in their accusation. These services rarely
look into matters, and just cut you out, with not even an explanation.
This occurs because our society, in large part, remains intrinsically
homophobic.

It doesn't matter if you really didn't offend anyone, if you're gay,
you'll likely get shut out, if someone is out for your blood.
Fortunately, I am hacker-savvy, and know my way around the 'net, with
or witnout an ISP's permission.

And meanwhile, homophobes get away with threats of murder and other
forms of hatred, in any newsgroup they want. It goes on day in, day
out, with never a moment's peace. We gays can't even have our own
several newsgroups for our own communications, without festering
breeder-nutcases harassing us. Do ISP's warn these jerks? Nope.

Wm James

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On Sun, 05 Nov 2000 07:02:45 GMT, ezek...@my-deja.com (Ezekiel J.
Krahlin) wrote:

>On Sat, 04 Nov 2000 20:32:09 -0600, Wm James
><wrj...@kudzucountry.com> wrote:
>
>>BTW, there are ways to protect your connection but I will not be the
>>one to explain it to you.
>
>I don't need your help, asshole.

Uh oh! Does that mean you find me attractive?

> I have plenty of hackers for
>friends...here in my home city, as well as all over the world.

Friends don't let friends make such fools of themselves. From you lost
accounts I see how much help they are to you. :)

>>It would be better for everyone (including
>>you) if you just showed a little constraint.
>
>I am discussing issue that go way beyond "constraint". Gays are being
>bashed and slaughtered in this country, with society's tacit
>permission. I am waking up more and more gays (and their supporters)
>to the fact we've *been at war for at least several years now...and we
>better start defending ourselves, and fighting back.

Pardon me while I yawn.

>>ISPs are virtually all
>>very forgiving when it comes to usenet useage.
><snip>
>>You have to really step over the line to get nuked.
>
>Would that were true, but when it comes to gay people, no sir, it
>ain't true at all. Many ISP's, as well as Internet services in
>general, will shut you out if *anyone "complains" about you, using the
>word "gay" or "homosexual" in their accusation. These services rarely
>look into matters, and just cut you out, with not even an explanation.
>This occurs because our society, in large part, remains intrinsically
>homophobic.

If you think they even care where you stick your penis, you are
kidding yourself. You get your accounts nuked for abuse.

>It doesn't matter if you really didn't offend anyone, if you're gay,
>you'll likely get shut out, if someone is out for your blood.
>Fortunately, I am hacker-savvy, and know my way around the 'net, with
>or witnout an ISP's permission.

It looks to me like you are having a lot of trouble.

>And meanwhile, homophobes get away with threats of murder and other
>forms of hatred, in any newsgroup they want. It goes on day in, day
>out, with never a moment's peace. We gays can't even have our own
>several newsgroups for our own communications, without festering
>breeder-nutcases harassing us. Do ISP's warn these jerks? Nope.

I have seen no such threats. And if you report them, you will get the
same consideration as a sane person if you act sane. But that may be
asking too much....... :)

William R. James


Wm James

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On Mon, 06 Nov 2000 01:45:18 GMT, ezek...@my-deja.com (Ezekiel J.
Krahlin) wrote:

>On Sun, 05 Nov 2000 17:58:24 -0600, Wm James
><wrj...@kudzucountry.com> wrote:
>
>>>I don't need your help, asshole.
>>

>>Uh oh! Does that mean you find me attractive?
>

>I'm not into beastiality...and you certainly speak for The Beast.

My Social security number is 666. :)

>>Friends don't let friends make such fools of themselves. From you lost
>>accounts I see how much help they are to you. :)
>

>I have never lost any account.

You seriously expect anyone to buy that? You are kidding, right?

>Furthermore, my cycles of appearance
>and disappearance from newgroup activity are only due to my other
>business at hand. I cannot afford the time to consistently post
>messages on Usenet, day in and day out. Some people seem to have way
>too much time on their hands, as their whole lives tend to revolve
>around newgroups...such as yourself.

Some of up work here. :)

>>If you think they even care where you stick your penis, you are
>>kidding yourself. You get your accounts nuked for abuse.
>

>I repeat: homophobia plays a big role in many ISP's decisions. It is
>your own gay hatred that inspires you to taunt outspoken gays like
>myself, and to manipulate the truth in order to trivialize the noble
>struggle for Same-Sex Affection Liberation.

ROTF! See if you can find someone (even a homosexual) who has read my
posts and think I hate anyone based on where they like to stick their
penises. I'll bet I can find a number in these groups who would agree
that your every post is filled with hate.

>"Breeders are a dying breed" (pun intended).

Pun or threat? Not that I care. I only report abusers for spamming or
blatent lible. Threaten me and I just enjoy the laugh, Some here are
a bit more sensitive, however.

William R. James


Ezekiel J. Krahlin

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On Sun, 05 Nov 2000 17:58:24 -0600, Wm James
<wrj...@kudzucountry.com> wrote:

>>I don't need your help, asshole.
>

>Uh oh! Does that mean you find me attractive?

I'm not into beastiality...and you certainly speak for The Beast.

>Friends don't let friends make such fools of themselves. From you lost


>accounts I see how much help they are to you. :)

I have never lost any account. Furthermore, my cycles of appearance


and disappearance from newgroup activity are only due to my other
business at hand. I cannot afford the time to consistently post
messages on Usenet, day in and day out. Some people seem to have way
too much time on their hands, as their whole lives tend to revolve
around newgroups...such as yourself.

>If you think they even care where you stick your penis, you are


>kidding yourself. You get your accounts nuked for abuse.

I repeat: homophobia plays a big role in many ISP's decisions. It is
your own gay hatred that inspires you to taunt outspoken gays like
myself, and to manipulate the truth in order to trivialize the noble
struggle for Same-Sex Affection Liberation.

"Breeders are a dying breed" (pun intended).


Ezekiel J. Krahlin

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On Sun, 05 Nov 2000 23:56:49 -0600, Wm James
<wrj...@kudzucountry.com> wrote:

>Pun or threat?

Half-correct: "pun" and "prophecy".

>Not that I care. I only report abusers for spamming or
>blatent lible. Threaten me and I just enjoy the laugh, Some here are
>a bit more sensitive, however.

So "sensitive" in fact, as to slam down *any gay person who *dares to
speak up...including those who are nowhere near as radical as myself.
They destroy democracy and free speech by their own zealous, anti-gay
dogma. But once our Silent Gay-Majority finally has the courage to
speak out, my lone voice will become just one among a myriad voices...
and an unstoppable, unbeatable army of soldiers: the "Blue Rose
Militia".


---
Lavender Velvet Revolution:
http://surf.to/gaybible

Wm James

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On Mon, 06 Nov 2000 20:12:10 GMT, ezek...@my-deja.com (Ezekiel J.
Krahlin) wrote:


Don't buy into the spammer's claims. There is no "free speech" on the
net. It is a collection of computers owned by individuels and
companies, none of which is requied to accept traffic from anyone
else.

I have seen no such bias. Homosexual activists sites are abundant.
Anti homosexual sites, on the other hand, get nuked rather quickly.
The net tends to lean a little to the left where political correctness
seems to be the rule. If you want to test it, try putting up a KKK or
nazi site. Thee are VERY few hosts that allow it. Some countries
will even arrest those putting them up.

Usenet is no different. Some groups are used by more tolorant people
than others. alt.activism is very tolorant, few even reprt any abuse
unless it really gets out of hand. I have no doubt that the
homosexual groups get trollers but try the atheist groups if you
really want to see trolls. Any and all groups dealing with
contravercial subjects are going to get that. You choices are either
to accept it, or go off line. Personally, I find the trollers
sometimes useful in pointing out inconsistancies in logic.

William R. James


Ezekiel J. Krahlin

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On Mon, 06 Nov 2000 22:12:05 -0600, Wm James
<wrj...@kudzucountry.com> wrote:

>Anti homosexual sites, on the other hand, get nuked rather quickly.

Oh, sure, like "Godhatesfags.com". Tell us more lies!

Wm James

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On Tue, 07 Nov 2000 18:59:35 GMT, ezek...@my-deja.com (Ezekiel J.
Krahlin) wrote:

>On Mon, 06 Nov 2000 22:12:05 -0600, Wm James
><wrj...@kudzucountry.com> wrote:
>
>>Anti homosexual sites, on the other hand, get nuked rather quickly.
>
>Oh, sure, like "Godhatesfags.com". Tell us more lies!
>

Like the gay scouts site you whined about.

Like I said (and like you snipped) try putting up a page.

William R. James


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